In other news....Moses

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08-22-2021, 12:08 PM
kewlJ

In other news....Moses

In their attempts to discredit me, both Blackhole and Singer have latched on to Moses as their expert blackjack witness against me. They were so egar to have a blackjack player claiming to be some level of professional player challenge me that they blindly promoted him as this expert.

I have long known that Moses while knowledgebale about the low limit single deck game in Reno, that I suspect he plays frequently, is no where close to a professional player, nor a professional sportsbettor that he claims to be. I have mentioned it on occasion, pointing out the problem with betting limits (Reno is a low limit town). I happen to know of Moses financial situation as well, as he took forum trolling off the forums into real life, involving police where I was able to confirm my earlier suspicions.

I have hinted, even briefly alluded to his situation, that would not allow for what he claimed, but really didn't want to out him completely. This week , inexplicably, Moses/tator outed himself at GF, admitting that he was on SSI. A quick google of SSI and you learn it is basically a welfare program, administered by social security for people that don't have enough work credit to qualify for social security or social security disablity. Again, it is NOT social security, but is administered by social security administration. It is a welfare program and to qualify a person must haven less that $2000 in resourses, including cash, bank accounts.

So Blackhole, Singer...there is your expert blackjack player. A low limit Reno player, with other issues, just as I have known for a while. Now watch his new boyfriend BoSox throw a hissy fit.
08-22-2021, 01:10 PM
BoSox

KJ, my only response to this post of yours is that I have no idea why you have not been barred from every forum that you ever joined.
08-22-2021, 01:52 PM
Keystone

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

In their attempts to discredit me, both Blackhole and Singer have latched on to Moses as their expert blackjack witness against me. They were so egar to have a blackjack player claiming to be some level of professional player challenge me that they blindly promoted him as this expert.

I have long known that Moses while knowledgebale about the low limit single deck game in Reno, that I suspect he plays frequently, is no where close to a professional player, nor a professional sportsbettor that he claims to be. I have mentioned it on occasion, pointing out the problem with betting limits (Reno is a low limit town). I happen to know of Moses financial situation as well, as he took forum trolling off the forums into real life, involving police where I was able to confirm my earlier suspicions.

I have hinted, even briefly alluded to his situation, that would not allow for what he claimed, but really didn't want to out him completely. This week , inexplicably, Moses/tator outed himself at GF, admitting that he was on SSI. A quick google of SSI and you learn it is basically a welfare program, administered by social security for people that don't have enough work credit to qualify for social security or social security disablity. Again, it is NOT social security, but is administered by social security administration. It is a welfare program and to qualify a person must haven less that $2000 in resourses, including cash, bank accounts.

So Blackhole, Singer...there is your expert blackjack player. A low limit Reno player, with other issues, just as I have known for a while. Now watch his new boyfriend BoSox throw a hissy fit.

So you ran to the police about this guy and now are continuing here talking about him and his personal business? And maybe the guy has piles of cash or hides his money really well. Really don`t know why this is your or anyone else`s business but its really not hard to see now why this guy wanted to break his leg off in your ass
08-22-2021, 02:07 PM
kewlJ

Wrong Keystone. I didn't run to the police. The security of the building I live contacted the police after he tried to sneak in after first announcing who he was looking for.

I didn't even know about it until after the fact. At that point I was called to the station and informed of what their investigation found and told certain information about the person.

Keystone YOU do some trolling on these forums as we all do. I wonder how happy you would be if someone took the trolling off the forum, found out where you live and tried to break into your home?
08-22-2021, 02:16 PM
BoSox

Quote:

Originally Posted by kewlJ

In their attempts to discredit me, both Blackhole and Singer have latched on to Moses as their expert blackjack witness against me. They were so egar to have a blackjack player claiming to be some level of professional player challenge me that they blindly promoted him as this expert.

I have long known that Moses while knowledgebale about the low limit single deck game in Reno, that I suspect he plays frequently, is no where close to a professional player, nor a professional sportsbettor that he claims to be. I have mentioned it on occasion, pointing out the problem with betting limits (Reno is a low limit town). I happen to know of Moses financial situation as well, as he took forum trolling off the forums into real life, involving police where I was able to confirm my earlier suspicions.

I have hinted, even briefly alluded to his situation, that would not allow for what he claimed, but really didn't want to out him completely. This week , inexplicably, Moses/tator outed himself at GF, admitting that he was on SSI. A quick google of SSI and you learn it is basically a welfare program, administered by social security for people that don't have enough work credit to qualify for social security or social security disablity. Again, it is NOT social security, but is administered by social security administration. It is a welfare program and to qualify a person must haven less that $2000 in resourses, including cash, bank accounts.

So Blackhole, Singer...there is your expert blackjack player. A low limit Reno player, with other issues, just as I have known for a while. Now watch his new boyfriend BoSox throw a hissy fit.

KJ, not only do you take your Moses return responses here where they do not belong, which is bad enough but you also gave out false information to top it all off.

Here is Moses response regarding him receiving Social Security:

"3.) The information on my packet read Social Security Information. It listed how much I would receive monthly. Depending on which month I decided to begin withdrawal from what I paid into.
08-22-2021, 02:41 PM
kewlJ

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Originally Posted by BoSox

KJ, not only do you take your Moses return responses here where they do not belong, which is bad enough but you also gave out false information to top it all off.

Here is Moses response regarding him receiving Social Security:

"3.) The information on my packet read Social Security Information. It listed how much I would receive monthly. Depending on which month I decided to begin withdrawal from what I paid into.

BoSox, first of all me bringing this discussion here IS relevant because both Blackhole and Singer have used Moses as their expert blackjack player, in an attempt to discredit me.

as for your point #3, which I have no idea where it is from, but it doesn't matter. Last night Moses on his own, posted that he is receiving SSI. I advised him a couple times that he was actually outing himself or his situation and he should google SSI. He repeated his statement about receiving SSI.

Now did YOU read about SSI BoSox? So happens Moses has been on SSi for quite a while and again SSI is a welfare program administered by the social security administration. So when a person on SSI reaches the age of 62, their SSI will revert to Social Security Retirement. IF they have enough work credits to receive Social Security Retirement, they get that retirement money. IF their retirement amount is less than the SSI amount they were receiving, they still get the amount they were receiving from SSI, but it now comes from the social security retirement fund. In other words at age 62 (there is no choice to wait until full retirement) the SSI or Welfare program administrated by the Social Security Administration stops and Social Security Rertirement starts even if the person hasn't paid enough into social security to warrent regular benefits. THAT is what occured with Moses and why he is so confused about what he is even getting.

But that isn't really the point. The point is he has been receiving benefits for a while and is neither the professional blackjack player nor proffesional sportsbettor that he has claimed. He is a guy and has been for a while that receives government benefits and hangs out at the casinos with a group of similar people placing low limit sportsbet and playing low limit blackjack. And I don't even care about that. Nothing wrong with that. But don't be pretending to be something else and calling me out.

And BoSox, the shame of it is, I know that you KNOW this is all true. I mean you have an agenda now, but you know the truth. You are way past saying the truth, but you KNOW it.
08-22-2021, 03:01 PM
kewlJ

Ok, so I do see where Bosox's #3 came from now. Moses is trying to change his story today from what he said last night and what I KNOW to be true.
08-22-2021, 03:15 PM
jbjb

Did ZenGrifter not keep the hosting fees up again and ZZ got shut down?
08-22-2021, 06:02 PM
Tasha

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoSox

KJ, my only response to this post of yours is that I have no idea why you have not been barred from every forum that you ever joined.

Bosox, what is up with your sudden antagonistic viritol for Kewlj lately? You seem to have it really out for him all of a sudden when you used to be normal and mature. WHY are you constantly harassing and insulting Kewlj when you didn't use to act like this? :/
08-24-2021, 12:49 PM
kewlJ

So speaking of Tater Tot/Moses, he is back at WoV today, talking blackjack and talking his "rotation". :rolleyes:

Has anybody ever heard a blackjack player talking about their "rotation" before I started talking about roattion after I moved to Vegas. Las vegas you can have a "rotation" when you can have 30 playable games. A place that has just a handful of games, there is no rotation. :D

Furthermore, has anybody ever heard a blackjack player talk about casino tolerance and casino comfort levels before I moved to Las Vegas and based my whole style of play and plan of play on casino tolerance and comfort levels. Now Moses/tater is frequently spouting off about casino tolerance levels, when it isn't really even a thing where he plays. :D

I guess next he will tell us he uses a chip inventory? :cool:

I mean really, I share some of what I do in the hopes that it may benefit other players. Maybe they can incorporate things I do and share, into their own games and situations, or maybe something I say or share, leads them to come up with something else unique to their own situation that can be beneficial.

So while I don't mind him using these phrases and concepts, as if he came up with them, I do find it extremely hypocritical that he has spent 8 years attacking me, trying to discredit me, claiming I am not a real player, and all that, and then incorporates many things I say, do and share into his own game and thought process.

To quote Jack Nickolson in a Few Good men, "I would rather he just said thank you and went on his way".
08-24-2021, 01:11 PM
MisterV

Lt.Kaffee: (in "A Few Good Men"}:

"Oh, spare me the psychobabble father bullshit."

Sorry KJ, couldn't resist, you left yourself open for that one.
08-26-2021, 01:28 AM
Dan Druff

Wait, so Moses knows kewlJ's identity, and tried to visit him in his building?

kewlJ, how did he find that out?
08-26-2021, 02:26 AM
AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Wait, so Moses knows kewlJ's identity, and tried to visit him in his building?

kewlJ, how did he find that out?

I had the same question. Apparently, KJ gave too many details about the house he sold and then posted when he sold it and that lead to exposing his identity through public records.

KJ, you don't know that he was trying to break in, he may have just been looking for a hot date with a fellow BJ guy.
08-26-2021, 03:15 AM
Dan Druff

Well, if kewlJ's identity has been found out by unfriendlies, perhaps now he's willing to meet up with me and show me that blackjack autoshuffling stuff he was talking about.
08-26-2021, 06:59 AM
kewlJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Well, if kewlJ's identity has been found out by unfriendlies, perhaps now he's willing to meet up with me and show me that blackjack autoshuffling stuff he was talking about.

In regards to "unfriendlies" finding and knowing my identity. It has been suggested that real estate transaction records could have played a part. While I did mention at the time that I was selling my home and buying a condo, both of these transactions were fairly modest transaction amounts. Someone would have had to sift through thousands of such transactions to come up with anything. Now if you had the name you were looking for, yeah, real estate transactions might provide you additional information, like an address.

The particular "unfriendly" we are talking about in this thread, started a thread on this forum (finding KJ) asking for my identity and any other information available and there was a similar thread started at WoV. I think it much more likely someone was able to get my identity through that means. Although I like to think there is only a small handful of people that know my identity, and think and hope most of them don't fall into the "unfriendly" catagory, there is probably more than I realize that have that information.

In regards to autoshuffle "stuff":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo
08-26-2021, 07:17 AM
AxelWolf

Quote:

Originally Posted by kewlJ

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Well, if kewlJ's identity has been found out by unfriendlies, perhaps now he's willing to meet up with me and show me that blackjack autoshuffling stuff he was talking about.

In regards to "unfriendlies" finding and knowing my identity. It has been suggested that real estate transaction records could have played a part. While I did mention at the time that I was selling my home and buying a condo, both of these transactions were fairly modest transaction amounts. Someone would have had to sift through thousands of such transactions to come up with anything. Now if you had the name you were looking for, yeah, real estate transactions might provide you additional information, like an address.

The particular "unfriendly" we are talking about in this thread, started a thread on this forum (finding KJ) asking for my identity and any other information available and there was a similar thread started at WoV. I think it much more likely someone was able to get my identity through that means. Although I like to think there is only a small handful of people that know my identity, and think and hope most of them don't fall into the "unfriendly" catagory, there is probably more than I realize that have that information.

In regards to autoshuffle "stuff":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmzsWxPLIOo

Did you try asking him?