Who is gay and who isn't gay.

I am probably, make that surely not the only gay guy on this forum. But as the only OUT gay guy, with working Gaydar (yes Gaydar works with written words), let me share my conclusions, since it has been a major topic the past couple days.

Mickey Crimm: Definitely NOT gay. He does like to call other people gay though as a putdown.

Axelwolf: Definitely NOT gay, but does like his gay putdowns as well, sometimes meant in fun, sometimes not.

Mdawg: Not Gay. Just a troll, bully and obsessive stalker. His obsession with me makes him appear gay but he isn't.

Rob Singer: Definitely GAY. He is from that older generation, where he went out of his way to stay deep in the closet, even marrying and raising a family. But this dude is as flaming as anyone I have ever read. He knows way too much about gay lifestyle and gay sex. I suspect he has spent a great deal of time in rest stops and park and anonymous cruising throughout his life.

accountinQuestion: Not Gay. A dick! But not gay.

coach belly: Definitely GAY. I also believe the rumors that he probably has a thing for underage boys. Probably 14-15 age range.

Theydon'tpayontuesdays: NOT gay. A bit homophobic. Can be a normal dude if he didn't focus so much on peoples sexuality

Keystone: NOT gay. But likes to call people gay.

Jdaewoo: Not Gay but likes to call people gay.

Dave Danty: Haven't seen enough of his posts. I don't think he is gay. If he is a sockpuppet, I didn't take that into consideration

BillYung (and all his different names/personalities: NOT GAY. Just fucking weird as hell. I doubt anyone from either sex would have any interest in him.

Dan Druff: NOT GAY, but homophobic.

Redietz: I saved Dietz for last. My first impression was he was light in the loafers gay. He always seems to have a GF or Wife, which he needs to support and help support him, but my first impression stands. He is closeted GAY.


MrV didn't participate in the past couple days, probably recovering from surgery and I hope doing well, but he is definitely NOT gay. Tasha, no need to say anything. If I have missed anyone that wants to hear my thoughts, let me know. :)

I'm a dick but i don't like dick. Good to know.

Keep the quality posts flowing.

Those loafers that Redietz wears definitely do seem gay. Agreed.

Coach Belly is a creep but I hope he's not a pedo.

All in all a very solid analysis based on solid reasoning. A gay man's gaydar is second to no straight man. If you can't help these guys with APing and math - then you can at least set them straight on which are not.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

. If you can't help these guys with APing and math - then you can at least set them straight on which are not.

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I was NEVER trying to help people with advantage play or math. I simply wanted to share some of what I do and if other could take something from that....GREAT!

But there is definitely an anti-AP crowd or group here. I am sure most are some form of degenerate life-long losing type gamblers. These people could have done themselves a favor by listening to what I as well as other APs have to say. But they would rather troll and hate.

Well, it's better than being glum.

I realize kewlJ is probably trying to provoke me, but really, I am reminded of a good friend of mine who was asked, as third or fourth choice, to ride in the point limo as a representative of his company, at a Gay Pride parade in Anaheim. The first two people, who were straight, had said no. He said sure and rode. He is not gay, has a wife and a couple of daughters, but figured why not. I'd say why not, too.

Now I have some fine outfits that might be interpreted as gay, but they are actually 70's pimp style. If you haven't seen Huggy Bear in Starsky and Hutch, then you might think I was gay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCW4o1fZnrw

Now as to whether I have ever purposefully "acted gay." Yes I have. On our trip to Key West, my late friend Johnny Mucha and I tried to get a discounted room (Key West is very gay). We decided to pass on the room, as blood on the sheets (likely some invigorating anal sex to blame) led us to seek a hotel elsewhere.

But kewlJ misses the whole point of identifying me as gay. If I were gay, I would not be closeted. Anonymous gay dudes who don't have the balls to identify themselves online calling other people closeted? That's pretty rich.

And let's face it. There aren't too many logical reasons for an alleged professional gambler to stay anonymous online but advertise their gayness. I think Seedvalue and MDawg have presented those logical reasons pretty clearly. No reason for me to repeat the obvious.

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Originally Posted by redietz

And let's face it. There aren't too many logical reasons for an alleged professional gambler to stay anonymous online but advertise their gayness. I think Seedvalue and MDawg have presented those logical reasons pretty clearly.

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I didn't advertise that I am gay. I just didn't deny it when asked back at the first site I was on. After that it was known that I am gay, which should have had no effect on gambling discussion.

You are still going with this "No logical reason for a professional gambler to stay anonymous" hun? You have learned nothing! And still don't understand what it means to be an AP. Mickey Crimm just linked to a discussion where a brick & mortar casino/sportsbook stole an AP/winning players money. THAT is why we stay anonymous.

Someone like Shackleford or Anthony Curtis that is known, will not get as much "leeway" when playing something at an advantage (casino or sports) as I would, or axelwolf who is anonymous on forums or mickeycrimm.

THAT YOU, Dietz, have screamed your name, address and lately your phone number online for years really was proof (missed) that you were no AP. Now a tout...yeah, he would have every reason to scream his name and contact info. :cool:

Oh, here is someone i missed. DegenBen. I have no opinion. I have no reason to think one way or the other.

A matter of merely filling in the blanks.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

XXX: NOT GAY. Just fucking weird as hell. I doubt anyone from either sex would have any interest in him.

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---> Three Essays on Religion: Nature, the Utility of religion, and Theism.

https://anagram-solver.net/xxx...NOT....?partial=true


Which makes sense in terms of not gay, and, Hell, and no interest in fucking. I mean, no one thinks to fuck a god, Holy Ghost, devil, or the like.

Anyway, the only thing that matters is who has the balls, which is obvious to everyone; not, a bunch of filthy, shitty animals fucking each other. Ha.

It's just one of those things so-called personalities are just unpredictable and immeasurable here. It just can't really be proven as intent is mysterious. Im not ruining the jokes.

Solid list. Mostly accurate but MJihad is definitely gay. Probably one of those flamboyant, finger snapping ones too. You can totally tell by the way he acts….you forgot Monet and Tableplay. I don’t think they’re gay in the traditional sense, only for eachother

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Originally Posted by redietz

And let's face it. There aren't too many logical reasons for an alleged professional gambler to stay anonymous online but advertise their gayness. I think Seedvalue and MDawg have presented those logical reasons pretty clearly.

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I didn't advertise that I am gay. I just didn't deny it when asked back at the first site I was on. After that it was known that I am gay, which should have had no effect on gambling discussion.

You are still going with this "No logical reason for a professional gambler to stay anonymous" hun? You have learned nothing! And still don't understand what it means to be an AP. Mickey Crimm just linked to a discussion where a brick & mortar casino/sportsbook stole an AP/winning players money. THAT is why we stay anonymous.

Someone like Shackleford or Anthony Curtis that is known, will not get as much "leeway" when playing something at an advantage (casino or sports) as I would, or axelwolf who is anonymous on forums or mickeycrimm.

THAT YOU, Dietz, have screamed your name, address and lately your phone number online for years really was proof (missed) that you were no AP. Now a tout...yeah, he would have every reason to scream his name and contact info. :cool:

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I love how KewlJ ignores the point. How many actual professional card counters inhabit the strip? Throw a number out there. How many actual professional card counters inhabit the strip who are gay?

So the kewlJ thinks, what, his sexuality is a well-kept secret in the real world? Not likely. So the kewlJ says proclaiming his sexuality online has no effect on his anonymity? LOL -- only if he's lying, you know, the old kewlJ "misdirection."

Again, what is more likely from a pure math perspective, that this poster actually counts cards for a living and happens to advertise his gayness? Or that he's a male prostitute on the strip using blackjack play as a cover/misdirection for his actual income?

What's more mathematically likely also -- that he has survived playing blackjack while other, more skilled, more famous blackjack pros have hung up their strip play? Or that he haunts the strip precisely because that is where sex workers procure most of their income?

Let the math, as kewlJ often says, speak for itself.

And frankly, I have nothing against male sex workers on the strip. More power to them. Everybody needs a gig.

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Originally Posted by Mdawg

This evidence will go towards what is already known and established by SeedValue among others, that she is a male prostitute, as that geolocation is a low end part of Vegas where undesirables roam.

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I wasn’t going to make any posts on this who’s gay & who’s not gay thread, butt fuck it.

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Originally Posted by redietz

I love how KewlJ ignores the point. How many actual professional card counters inhabit the strip? Throw a number out there. How many actual professional card counters inhabit the strip who are gay?

So the kewlJ thinks, what, his sexuality is a well-kept secret in the real world? Not likely. So the kewlJ says proclaiming his sexuality online has no effect on his anonymity? LOL -- only if he's lying, you know, the old kewlJ "misdirection."

Again, what is more likely from a pure math perspective, that this poster actually counts cards for a living and happens to advertise his gayness? Or that he's a male prostitute on the strip using blackjack play as a cover/misdirection for his actual income?

What's more mathematically likely also -- that he has survived playing blackjack while other, more skilled, more famous blackjack pros have hung up their strip play? Or that he haunts the strip precisely because that is where sex workers procure most of their income?

Let the math, as kewlJ often says, speak for itself.

And frankly, I have nothing against male sex workers on the strip. More power to them. Everybody needs a gig.

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A lot to answer here. First how many card counters are on the strip? Playing the strip 1-2 nights a week, I see more card counters than I used to playing the local casinos 5 days week. I see some card counter almost every week. Now are they professional, or recreational playing fairly high stakes? I don't know. And I don't stick around to find out. Nor do I stick around to determine if I think they might be gay. Why would I care about that. If there is another card counter (or group) I remove myself from that situation. I don't want to be mistakenly linked to any group or team of card counters that happen to show up that weekend.

Second, I know many gay dudes think they "act" straight and know one knows. I don't "act" straight, nor do I "act" gay. I doubt many people (pit or other players) give it a second thought. That is not why any of us are at the blackjack table.

Third, Earlier today, I asked what alternative world Mdawg lives and plays in where a player can win millions of dollars, playing rated and the casinos allow it and don't care. :confused: Now I am going to ask what kind of alternative world Bob Dietz is in where the strip is full of male sex workers? I have never seen one. I see "ladies" I think or suspect are female prostitutes. I have never seen a dude and thought he is a male prostitute. I don't think dude prostitutes would be very tolerated in or around casinos as some of the "ladies" are. Maybe there are but I have never seen it. But again, that is not what I am focused on when I am playing the strip. Apparently it is what Dietz is focused on when he is in Vegas.

I'll point out that I don't call retards gay as a putdown. I'm merely pointing out that retards that talk incessantly about cock and balls are more than likely homosexual males or sex crazed females. If a male talks incessantly about cock and balls and professes not to be homosexual, then they are likely a closeted homosexual. MDawg and coach cunt both talk incessantly about cock and balls. Not a little, but almost constantly. It's dick this, dick in mouth this, dick in ass this, dick on dick this. It's non fucking stop. If they aren't homosexual, then they're frontrunners for the award of heterosexual male that talks the most about dick.

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If a male talks incessantly about cock and balls and professes not to be homosexual, then they are likely a closeted homosexual. MDawg and coach cunt both talk incessantly about cock and balls.

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You left out Singer. Granted he don't post as much as he used to, but I never read so much gay "talk" from a guy as I have from Singer over the years. And it isn't just calling people gay. he knows more about gay sex and lifestyle than I, a gay dude does. He talked about things I had to look up. :confused:

You just KNOW he is one of those deeply closeted guys, with Wife and family that spent a lot of time cruising in the various gay cruising locations.

I still don't think of Dawg as Gay. I think he is a troll, asshole, stalker type.

But you know, he comes from a culture, where it is never acceptable to be gay. That could lead to a person being very deep in the closet and only showing his true self on internet forums. :rolleyes:

I could picture Dawg hiring one of those tranny prostitutes, and telling himself he hired a female as he was sucking their dick. ;) There are a group of dudes like that. Not gay, but they will be with a tranny no problem. Pretty gross, as well as makes no sense.

To put some context on it, Alfred Kinsey’s famous studies in the 1940s–50s reported that about 37% of men had at least one homosexual experience to orgasm between adolescence and old age.

So if those studies are accurate it would mean that with around 20 members here, 20 * .37 =7.4 so on average a little over 7 of the active members have had at least one homosexual experience.

Also since in the 40s and 50s homosexuality was very much kept under wraps & since it’s all males here as far as we know except Tasha, plus many of the topics on this forum are very gay, it’s quite possible that the percentage of members here who have had at least one homosexual experience vastly exceeds 37%.

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Originally Posted by DGenBen

To put some context on it, Alfred Kinsey’s famous studies in the 1940s–50s reported that about 37% of men had at least one homosexual experience to orgasm between adolescence and old age.

So if those studies are accurate it would mean that with around 20 members here, 20 * .37 =7.4 so on average a little over 7 of the active members have had at least one homosexual experience.

Also since in the 40s and 50s homosexuality was very much kept under wraps & since it’s all males here as far as we know except Tasha, plus many of the topics on this forum are very gay, it’s quite possible that the percentage of members here who have had at least one homosexual experience vastly exceeds 37%.

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So You and Kinsey are defining one homosexual experience as making a person gay? If that is the case every guy that ever spent a month in Jail/prison is gay. Almost every frat guy that got drunk on weekends, couldn't get laid by a chick and got a blowjob from a dude while uttering "I have never done this and am drunk" is gay. Almost every teen who was a Boy Scout on a camping trip, is gay. ect, ect. Your definition puts us gays in the majority. ;)

And Today's generation....good lord! When I was younger 20 years ago, I had a problem with dudes that called themselves "bi". I though and still do that in most cases it was the first step to 3 years down the road they are gay.

But todays kids (20's) will show up at a gay club with their Girlfriend on their arm, flirt and dance with the GF, then flirt and dance with a dude, maybe even hookup with the dude and then leave with the GF, all while claiming, well I don't know what label they claim. :confused: I am not really good with all the labels (alphabet letters) in the Gay community.

I wonder what you buddy Kinsey would think or say.

Oh...here is one for you. Ever visit a site like Chaterbate or any gay porn site? ( I expect you will say no....lol). Many of the "models" claim they are straight, as they are sucking some dude off or engaged in anal sex with a guy. "Gay for Pay" is the term used. And then they go home to a GF or wife. :rolleyes: