My Casino back-rooming.

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That's HUGE.
Too Bad you got to give 25% to the IRS.
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Thanks Monet. I am below the filing limit ($20,000 threshold/year) for the year still - so I should be good to go with not paying 25% of this jackpot to Uncle Sam, unless my hand-pays end up exceeding $20,000 for the year which is unlikely. Since I am a law-abiding citizen, I would never not report my winnings from non-hand-pays, just like everyone else here at VCT. And of course my winnings from non-hand-pays are $0.

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Years ago, they told one of my pals that he owed them 3 Million Dollars lol.
He didn't file or report for years.
I guess he files now but has never paid them.
Supposedly, they have a lean on him, but it doesn't matter as he doesn't own anything on paper.
Another guy that I know who worked on the other side told me that they rarely go after guys like this as none of them have anything, not even a bank account.
It's just not worth their time unless they want to make an example out of you for whatever reason they have.
The government can ruin anyone at any moment for any reason they see fit.
Mrs. V will be in here telling us how the law works but I've never experienced it in the real world.
The law seems to change whenever you get into arbitration for some reason.
I read a stat that the government only wins 3% of the cases that actually make it to trial.
Something like 99% of the cases don't ever make it to trial.
I could never understand the idea of "court costs".
They just win in every direction.
Personally, I stay away from the cops, courts and doctors.
Leave me the Fuck Alone!

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Personally, I stay away from the cops, courts and doctors.

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This fantastic advice is never presented as an option by the three entities you just listed, since it would put them out of business. The narrative presented, is that people are going to interact with these parasites and then everything from there is built on this house of cards.

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OKAY....we have an update to this bad boy incident. :D

We are a little over a week away from the 2 year anniversary of the initial incident to this ordeal. :rolleyes:

So unrelated to this incident, a number of months after this incident, I believe through a legislative act rather than a judicial ruling but don't hold me to that, Nevada revised the old trespass laws to include a two year limitation. It hasn't been 2 years since the revision, so there have been no test cases. But I think everyone assumes that as soon as a casino recognizes a previously trespassed player that has returned, they will simply trespass the player again, good for another 2 years.

I intended to test that out. And that probably wasn't a smart thing, but rather me being ornery. I mean I don't anticipate really playing that location again, but still.

So about an hour ago, I received a registered letter, stating that at the expiration of my original trespass, a new trespass will take effect for a period of 2 years.

hum... :confused:

I am still digesting that, but wonder if that is legal. :confused: It certainly violates the spirit of the 2 year limit if not the actual legality of it.

I have no intent nor interest in fighting it, but did forward it to my attorney. Maybe a forward to Gaming is also in order. Thinking about it. :)

In the meantime, they got me again. If only to deny me the joy of fucking with them. :p

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OKAY....we have an update to this bad boy incident. :D

We are a little over a week away from the 2 year anniversary of the initial incident to this ordeal. :rolleyes:

So unrelated to this incident, a number of months after this incident, I believe through a legislative act rather than a judicial ruling but don't hold me to that, Nevada revised the old trespass laws to include a two year limitation. It hasn't been 2 years since the revision, so there have been no test cases. But I think everyone assumes that as soon as a casino recognizes a previously trespassed player that has returned, they will simply trespass the player again, good for another 2 years.

I intended to test that out. And that probably wasn't a smart thing, but rather me being ornery. I mean I don't anticipate really playing that location again, but still.

So about an hour ago, I received a registered letter, stating that at the expiration of my original trespass, a new trespass will take effect for a period of 2 years.

hum... :confused:

I am still digesting that, but wonder if that is legal. :confused: It certainly violates the spirit of the 2 year limit if not the actual legality of it.

I have no intent nor interest in fighting it, but did forward it to my attorney. Maybe a forward to Gaming is also in order. Thinking about it. :)

In the meantime, they got me again. If only to deny me the joy of fucking with them. :p

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Get help.

Kew, did you ever consider how much you'd be ridiculed for trying to add to your already proven lie about this ridiculous concoction?

You're really no more intelligent or savvy than the forum retard in your continuing quest for attention, relevance, and acceptance.

AQ suggests you get help. I hope you don't. Laughing stocks like you help make visits to this very anemic forum somewhat bearable.

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OKAY....we have an update to this bad boy incident. :D

We are a little over a week away from the 2 year anniversary of the initial incident to this ordeal. :rolleyes:

So unrelated to this incident, a number of months after this incident, I believe through a legislative act rather than a judicial ruling but don't hold me to that, Nevada revised the old trespass laws to include a two year limitation. It hasn't been 2 years since the revision, so there have been no test cases. But I think everyone assumes that as soon as a casino recognizes a previously trespassed player that has returned, they will simply trespass the player again, good for another 2 years.

I intended to test that out. And that probably wasn't a smart thing, but rather me being ornery. I mean I don't anticipate really playing that location again, but still.

So about an hour ago, I received a registered letter, stating that at the expiration of my original trespass, a new trespass will take effect for a period of 2 years.

hum... :confused:

I am still digesting that, but wonder if that is legal. :confused: It certainly violates the spirit of the 2 year limit if not the actual legality of it.

I have no intent nor interest in fighting it, but did forward it to my attorney. Maybe a forward to Gaming is also in order. Thinking about it. :)

In the meantime, they got me again. If only to deny me the joy of fucking with them. :p

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Get a small piece of paper and hand write "kewlJ 3-24-2025" on it, then put that piece of paper over any highly sensitive info on the letter you received (name, address, etc.), then take a photo of the stacked pieces of paper, then post that photo in this thread.

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Get a small piece of paper and hand write "kewlJ 3-24-2025" on it, then put that piece of paper over any highly sensitive info on the letter you received (name, address, etc.), then take a photo of the stacked pieces of paper, then post that photo in this thread.

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No thank you based solely on principal.

But just out of curiosity :rolleyes: ...do you think I don't own a printer?

Since I can't by legal agreement show anything identifying the sender, and won't show anything identifying me or my name or address, I could just print a generic letter (ala Rob Singer's bill of sale) with those areas blocked out, that would meet your requirements, but otherwise prove nothing.

You people crack me up. You really do. :D

You got Singer (of all people), the perpetrator of the phony bill of sale mentioned, among other phony nonsense, talking about somebody seeking attention. Singer!!!:D

NRS 207.200  Unlawful trespass upon land; warning against trespassing.

1.  Unless a greater penalty is provided pursuant to NRS 200.603, any person who, under circumstances not amounting to a burglary:

(a) Goes upon the land or into any building of another with intent to vex or annoy the owner or occupant thereof, or to commit any unlawful act; or

(b) Willfully goes or remains upon any land or in any building after having been warned during the previous 24 months by the owner or occupant thereof not to trespass,

is guilty of a misdemeanor.

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Since casinos can exclude people for any reason, subject to a few exceptions which don't apply to card counters, I see no way to fight it so long as they properly give you notice before the expiration of the two year period.

My analysis would differ were the casinos required to show a "new" offense but that seems not to be the case.

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Since casinos can exclude people for any reason, subject to a few exceptions which don't apply to card counters, I see no way to fight it so long as they properly give you notice before the expiration of the two year period.

My analysis would differ were the casinos required to show a "new" offense but that seems not to be the case.

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You are or were an attorney MrV and I am not, so I am not challenging your opinion. But prior to this revision where a period of 24 months was inserted, a trespass was assumed to be permanent, except in the very rare instance of a casino overturning it. Even in instances where the casino changed ownership, I think the trespass remained valid.

So then why make this change to 24 months, if they can just extend it like renewing a library book. :confused:

I don't know if a renewal violates the law but it certainly violates the intention of the law. Sometimes these kind of loopholes need to be corrected. But I have no interest in being a part of that. I don't see any damages or anything like that, that could make it beneficial.

I only brought it up because at least in my eyes, it is another case of the casinos doing the wrong thing. In this industry, when given a choice they always do the wrong thing...the sleazy thing.....take the lower road.

Kind of like our President, who wants to force courts to tell him "you can't do this or that" when he knows damn well, he shouldn't be doing some of these things in the first place. It is like a 'get away with whatever you can, regardless of whether it is right or wrong' mentality.

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OKAY....we have an update to this bad boy incident. :D

We are a little over a week away from the 2 year anniversary of the initial incident to this ordeal. :rolleyes:

So unrelated to this incident, a number of months after this incident, I believe through a legislative act rather than a judicial ruling but don't hold me to that, Nevada revised the old trespass laws to include a two year limitation. It hasn't been 2 years since the revision, so there have been no test cases. But I think everyone assumes that as soon as a casino recognizes a previously trespassed player that has returned, they will simply trespass the player again, good for another 2 years.

I intended to test that out. And that probably wasn't a smart thing, but rather me being ornery. I mean I don't anticipate really playing that location again, but still.

So about an hour ago, I received a registered letter, stating that at the expiration of my original trespass, a new trespass will take effect for a period of 2 years.

hum... :confused:

I am still digesting that, but wonder if that is legal. :confused: It certainly violates the spirit of the 2 year limit if not the actual legality of it.

I have no intent nor interest in fighting it, but did forward it to my attorney. Maybe a forward to Gaming is also in order. Thinking about it. :)

In the meantime, they got me again. If only to deny me the joy of fucking with them. :p

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It does make me wonder how organized casinos will be in keeping track of past trespassers.

I know of a large non Nevada casino that has been open for decades that struggles to keep track of all their previous trespassers.

I frequently see security at a podium looking at pictures of people on a laptop trying to identify if someone they see is in their list.

Their slot staff has told me that the way they catch a lot of people who have been trespassed before is only when they hit a handpay, they throw them out again.

Of course this will vary greatly by casino how efficient or ineot they are.

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Since casinos can exclude people for any reason, subject to a few exceptions which don't apply to card counters, I see no way to fight it so long as they properly give you notice before the expiration of the two year period.

My analysis would differ were the casinos required to show a "new" offense but that seems not to be the case.

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You are or were an attorney MrV and I am not, so I am not challenging your opinion. But prior to this revision where a period of 24 months was inserted, a trespass was assumed to be permanent, except in the very rare instance of a casino overturning it. Even in instances where the casino changed ownership, I think the trespass remained valid.

So then why make this change to 24 months, if they can just extend it like renewing a library book. :confused:

I don't know if a renewal violates the law but it certainly violates the intention of the law. Sometimes these kind of loopholes need to be corrected. But I have no interest in being a part of that. I don't see any damages or anything like that, that could make it beneficial.

I only brought it up because at least in my eyes, it is another case of the casinos doing the wrong thing. In this industry, when given a choice they always do the wrong thing...the sleazy thing.....take the lower road.

Kind of like our President, who wants to force courts to tell him "you can't do this or that" when he knows damn well, he shouldn't be doing some of these things in the first place. It is like a 'get away with whatever you can, regardless of whether it is right or wrong' mentality.

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I think the intent of the law was more for protecting patrons who may have been trespassed many years ago and / or prior to an ownership change & legitimately believed they were not trespassed currently.

I believe courts wanted to avoid getting bogged down with cases of very old trespasses where there was a real question of whether the trespass was intentional. As trespass is normally a “specific intent” crime even in NV if I’m not mistaken.

So if they resend the trespass notice they are probably adhering both to the letter & spirit of the law.

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It does make me wonder how organized casinos will be in keeping track of past trespassers.

I know of a large non Nevada casino that has been open for decades that struggles to keep track of all their previous trespassers.

I frequently see security at a podium looking at pictures of people on a laptop trying to identify if someone they see is in their list.

Their slot staff has told me that the way they catch a lot of people who have been trespassed before is only when they hit a handpay, they throw them out again.

Of course this will vary greatly by casino how efficient or ineot they are.

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Part of my problem is I have antagonized them throughout this ordeal. frequently doing things like going right up to the line of what I am legally allowed to say. Dumb really, but kind of fun. ;)

Since this casino no longer fits the profile of casinos I mostly play, I wasn't going to play there anyway. So this "renewal" was probably the best way forward for me. If I had antagonized them, which would have been a likely outcome, it could have resulted in not only another trespass (which the "renewal is), but possibly an entry or update to database information that actually could have been harmful.

So maybe in some strange way, someone up there (gambling Gods or someone) was looking out for me. Protecting me from my own stupidity. :cool:

In the United States anytime a law can protect someone (not to mention also protect the expensive tax payer funded legal system) from their own stupidity, that is probably a win. :)

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I do not understand your compulsion to share sensitive and detailed information like this if it is even true. Most who encounter similar situations simply don't do the thing in question, and also don't tell anyone what they discovered and what they didn't do in response to the discovery. Your revealing it publicly with such detail is odd. Odd enough that one suspects the details are untrue and possibly the whole story itself. If you need to fabricate details to protect your identity, why not keep the stories to yourself in the first place?

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kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells

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The only reason for which UNKewlJ has ever been trespassed is for male prostitution.

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https://youtu.be/cJg4OrlLk3Q

Get help.

Did they send the trespass notice by registered mail?

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MDawg has his challenge available for any session that is in dispute. Really for forums it doesn't get anymore stand up than that.

I'd say the only thing that happened today is it rained bad news for you. Make sure everything is elevated on milk crates in your tunnel abode so it doesn't wash away.

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No thank you based solely on principal.

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Principal...yes, like the guy you blew to get your GED.

I'm sure you meant principle, Mr Villanova, of which your main principle is to never offer proof of anything you claim, no matter how easy it would be to provide, so that you can gain some semblance of credibility.

Because that's not how tewlj works.

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Did they send the trespass notice by registered mail?

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He'll need to consult with his magic 8-ball (aka "attorney"), before he answers that question.

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No thank you based solely on principal.

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Principal...yes, like the guy you blew to get your GED.

I'm sure you meant principle, Mr Villanova, of which your main principle is to never offer proof of anything you claim, no matter how easy it would be to provide, so that you can gain some semblance of credibility.

Because that's not how tewlj works.

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I absolutely LOVE that people like smelly belly get all bent out of shape about something as trivial as spelling on an internet forum. :D:D:D

Admittedly, I am a poor speller. But mostly I just don't care. Sometimes I even see the error because it has a little red line under it meaning it is misspelled and I still click "post" without fixing it. :D

Freaking anal nutjobs. :cool:

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Yes, but I did not sign for it. The front desk did, which is how these things are handled where I live.

I think I get where you are going. That I could deny I received it. Not going to do that. I just don't care that much. :rolleyes:

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I absolutely LOVE...Freaking anal nutjobs.

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Freudian slip?

Speaking of anal...you're looking for love in all the wrong places.

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Principal...yes, like the guy you blew to get your GED.

I'm sure you meant principle, Mr Villanova, of which your main principle is to never offer proof of anything you claim, no matter how easy it would be to provide, so that you can gain some semblance of credibility.

Because that's not how tewlj works.

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Another example of how she's just an uneducated lying street bum. Prostitutes don't need to go to college or even graduate from high school though....

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Why isn't this retard making up more fake stories about being backed off?

It is absolutely BEAUTIFUL watching kew and his lies being ripped to shreds with the accuracy of surgeons wielding their scalpels! And the fool is so dense he just doesn't get it....even if he wants to....

Why isn't this retard posting more fake jackpots with exercise equipment in the background?

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Why isn't this retard posting more fake jackpots with exercise equipment in the background?

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lol

I'm very confused. I expected photos. Ohhhh, wait. He said back-rooming, not back-dooring.

Never mind.

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Another example of how she's just an uneducated lying street bum. Prostitutes don't need to go to college or even graduate from high school though....

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Be careful, mdawg. Pumping out truths forces morons like keystroke to lie about you, and makes the slant call you names.

It's more than most can bear. :)

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Get a small piece of paper and hand write "kewlJ 3-24-2025" on it, then put that piece of paper over any highly sensitive info on the letter you received (name, address, etc.), then take a photo of the stacked pieces of paper, then post that photo in this thread.

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No thank you based solely on principal.

But just out of curiosity :rolleyes: ...do you think I don't own a printer?

Since I can't by legal agreement show anything identifying the sender, and won't show anything identifying me or my name or address, I could just print a generic letter (ala Rob Singer's bill of sale) with those areas blocked out, that would meet your requirements, but otherwise prove nothing.

You people crack me up. You really do. :D

You got Singer (of all people), the perpetrator of the phony bill of sale mentioned, among other phony nonsense, talking about somebody seeking attention. Singer!!!:D

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I don't know or care if you own a toaster. I wouldn't have made the request if I thought you were smart enough to make a fake letter with the right verbiage and formatting.

But kew---think of the attention it would generate if you even produced ONE piece of documentation supporting your whopper! Your ongoing lie about "Singer's BOS" (correctly stated as "Singer's short-form secondary BOS for out-of-state regisration) just isn't getting the necessary attention you require.

But that what you're getting, IS entertaining.....:)

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UNKewlJ can't post what he doesn't have. Which includes about everything he has ever talked about other than some red or green chips. :D

https://i.imgur.com/qFQz40yl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/y7W17LUl.jpg

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Why isn't this retard posting more fake stories about being backed off?

Let me help out by organizing this thread in clear, concise, and organized content.

Never Happened.

You're welcome....

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Let me help out by organizing this thread in clear, concise, and organized content.

Never Happened.

You're welcome....

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Thanks for clearing that up. I was at loose ends trying to figure out which was more of a longshot -- the alleged back rooming from this thread or the playing of 50 ATS games a day trying to stay under the radar while working off a bonus for serious money (and making a profit), and then doing it again for serious money at the same site, and then doing it again. The KewlJ(s) have a sports betting profile as under-the-radar as Jimmy Durante's nose (or Pinocchio's).

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or the playing of 50 ATS games a day trying to stay under the radar while working off a bonus for serious money (and making a profit), and then doing it again for serious money at the same site, and then doing it again. The KewlJ(s) have a sports betting profile as under-the-radar as Jimmy Durante's nose (or Pinocchio's).

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Would placing 50 bets a day at the same site be something that would not be tolerated? I don't know. You are the expert so thanks for clearing that up. :)

Now as for me, I don't place 50 wagers a day at one site. I have 5 that I use. So, Mr Expert, would a player making 10 wagers a day be something that is frowned upon? :confused:

A couple of these sportsbooks, I have used for many years before I began doing this bonus play. So if they look back at my history, they STILL will see 5,6,7 losing years before the single winning (with bonus money) year, last year. How is THAT going to play?

There may come a time that the books I am using all cut me off. One already did. I just added a couple new ones. And when that time comes, which I fully expect, I will then decide whether to add new books that I am not as familiar with and confident that I will be paid, or maybe use a new account and name at the ones I am using (the horrors according to redietz) or both. Or maybe I will be done with this play, at least at the level I am currently doing it.

But until that time comes, STFU. You saying stupid shit like a sportsbook is going to flag a player making 10 wagers a day, who has had 5 out of 6 losing years, makes me doubt anything you say or have ever said.

You are so freaking obsessed with a couple players that call or consider themselves APs and not sports bettors, doing something involving sports at an advantage. GET THE FUCK OVER IT! You do not have a monopoly on sports betting. It is probably the fastest growing form of gambling and advantage player over the last 5 years.

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I am sure I can find a similar quote from Axelwolf (and most other AP's and real players) about you.

What do you think you repeating shit like this proves? That you are a mental patient repeating themselves like someone with dementia?

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or the playing of 50 ATS games a day trying to stay under the radar while working off a bonus for serious money (and making a profit), and then doing it again for serious money at the same site, and then doing it again. The KewlJ(s) have a sports betting profile as under-the-radar as Jimmy Durante's nose (or Pinocchio's).

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Would placing 50 bets a day at the same site be something that would not be tolerated? I don't know. You are the expert so thanks for clearing that up. :)

Now as for me, I don't place 50 wagers a day at one site. I have 5 that I use. So, Mr Expert, would a player making 10 wagers a day be something that is frowned upon? :confused:

A couple of these sportsbooks, I have used for many years before I began doing this bonus play. So if they look back at my history, they STILL will see 5,6,7 losing years before the single winning (with bonus money) year, last year. How is THAT going to play?

There may come a time that the books I am using all cut me off. One already did. I just added a couple new ones. And when that time comes, which I fully expect, I will then decide whether to add new books that I am not as familiar with and confident that I will be paid, or maybe use a new account and name at the ones I am using (the horrors according to redietz) or both. Or maybe I will be done with this play, at least at the level I am currently doing it.

But until that time comes, STFU. You saying stupid shit like a sportsbook is going to flag a player making 10 wagers a day, who has had 5 out of 6 losing years, makes me doubt anything you say or have ever said.

You are so freaking obsessed with a couple players that call or consider themselves APs and not sports bettors, doing something involving sports at an advantage. GET THE FUCK OVER IT! You do not have a monopoly on sports betting. It is probably the fastest growing form of gambling and advantage player over the last 5 years.

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Call me old-fashioned, but I'm a guy who thinks "full pay" video poker returns 100% and "advantage play" means you win money.

You do realize you contradict yourself on details all the time? And you give very few details. It's actually, and I hate to quote Singer here but I will, "entertaining."

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So you are a college educated dude, educated at The Farmers' High School of Pennsylvania (which later became Penn State) :D

So you tell us all why advantage players just might only give few details (maybe none) about what they do or if the give some details might omit or change some details along the way? Come on, you are a smart dude with your genius I.Q. and perfect SAT scores from 50 years ago. You can figure this out. :rolleyes:

And oh yeah....you are old fashioned. And living in yesteryear. 1984 I presume.

Red, here is what you and the other trolls don't and have never understood. I share what I want to share. Sometimes that is bits and pieces of what I do and have done. Sometimes details omitted or slightly altered. If you think I would come on public gambling forums and just reveal everything I have done....as I do it, for years, more than a decade now, well I don't know what to tell you. But that high I.Q. isn't working. :rolleyes:

I am going to throw you trolls a bone today (feed the trolls). It is a big one. Back when I revealed the tracking multiple tables, I said it was one of several things that I did that really increase earning and/or increase longevity. Some of these things are minor, some much more major.

So here is another that I have never revealed or talked about. I don't use it much anymore with the way I currently play and my brother has never used it. So I will reveal it. I probably can go back to it again at a later point if I desire. :)

So here is the disclaimer: Shouldn't even need to state this disclaimer, but I will. When conditions are right.

The technique: Using two very different bet spreads and corresponding max bets at the same table/game. I will explain using examples.

So lets say you are spreading $50-$300 at a 6 deck game. That is a modest 1-6 spread. depending on the place, that alone will probably be tolerated for at least a little while. But if you play through a number of shoes, eventually that spread will be noticed. And one of the big "tells" is when you go from a large Max Bet back to the smaller wager at the shuffle. That is why I routinely make that one of my exit points instead of showing that information.

But lets say, you are playing a really good game, good rules, deep penetration. Maybe far to the western side of Vegas, near the reddish canyon. Very good penetration. So you want to play on rather than exit, but don't want to show the huge "tell" of reverting back to smaller wager.

So this is when the second bet spread ramp kicks in. After finishing the shoe betting your max bet of $300, instead of reverting back to $50, you start an entirely new bet spread spreading $200-$800 or $200-$1000. $1000 max bet is really pushing at the place mentioned so lets go $200-$800.

So, if anyone had any interest in your play because of the initial spread shown, $50-$300, as soon as they see your new "small bet" of $200 to start the new shoe, they will have dismissed that concern. I mean $300 to $200 is pretty much flat betting. I might even make that first hand of the new shoe $300 before reverting back to $200 to really make it look like I am flat betting.

So then you go on playing your new spread $200-$800, which still is only 1-4 spread, but the $800 will draw attention. And once you play that $800 max bet, even once, you exit at the next shuffle.

Now you have gotten 2 cycles at that table (a cycle is showing your spread from minimum to max bet) instead of 1 cycle. And the amounts of the two spreads, averaged together are double your original $50-$300 spread. Twice the cycles at twice the wagers amounts. That is quite the increase in EV. :cool:

So there you have it. Your welcome to the trolls for the bone. Can't wait to hear all these non-APs and AP haters, who don't even play blackjack and most know little about blackjack, respond with their trolling. :D:D

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Originally Posted by redietz

Call me old-fashioned, but I'm a guy who thinks "full pay" video poker returns 100% and "advantage play" means you win money.

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A lot of video poker full pay only pays back high 99%
Even Bonus Poker at 99.1% payback is considered Full Pay.
It's semantics.
Doesn't matter.
Lots of other things to consider like points, promotions, mailers, comp... etc. etc.
You can even play 97% payback games if the conditions, like progressives, are at the right numbers.
Whatever.
You're not playing Video Poker on a serious note anyways.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

One thing you can tell, when UNKewlJ makes with the all bold sentences one after another something has really gotten to him. You can practically see the hand cocked onto his side, the bent elbow and the high pitched whiny voice complaining, "Now wayyyyt a minute, Misterrrrr."

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

This dude is a fraud. He just tries to piece together things that he imagines goes on based on a culmination of bits and pieces of stories he pulls from the Internet. Clown world.

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A couple thoughts about this "dawg" person. And isn't "Mdawg" such a cool, hip handle. :rolleyes:

When this guy claims to be in Las Vegas he posts 24/7 trolling people on gambling forums. :rolleyes:
When this guy claims to be in California working as an attorney, he posts 24/7 on gambling forums trolling people. :rolleyes:

I am just one of those people he trolls, although more of his trolling is directed at me. He trolls and attacks and tries to discredit every single person, AP's and real players, here an at WoV, that ever doubted his stupid fairytale story.

Now the thing about posting 24/7 from Las Vegas. I live in Vegas, so I post (way too much) in my free time. But how many people on visits to Las Vegas post non-stop trolling like this guy does. Some post 'trip reports' in real times, which I actually enjoy. But No one and I mean No one visiting Las Vegas posts 24/7 trolling shit like this. I will leave that to each of you to figure out why. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

A couple thoughts about this "dawg" person. And isn't "Mdawg" such a cool, hip handle. :rolleyes:

When this guy claims to be in Las Vegas he posts 24/7 trolling people on gambling forums. :rolleyes:
When this guy claims to be in California working as an attorney, he posts 24/7 on gambling forums trolling people. :rolleyes:

I am just one of those people he trolls, although more of his trolling is directed at me. He trolls and attacks and tries to discredit every single person, AP's and real players, here an at WoV, that ever doubted his stupid fairytale story.

Now the thing about posting 24/7 from Las Vegas. I live in Vegas, so I post (way too much) in my free time. But how many people on visits to Las Vegas post non-stop trolling like this guy does. Some post 'trip reports' in real times, which I actually enjoy. But No one and I mean No one visiting Las Vegas posts 24/7 trolling shit like this. I will leave that to each of you to figure out why. :rolleyes:

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If you don't read his posts, he doesn't exist.

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Originally Posted by monet

Nothing you post is 100% true.
From faking your own death to using multiple sockpuppets.
Like Coach said... you are constantly lying to the forums and you have admitted to it time and time again.

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