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Do you think Rob hit the jackpot for a real 1.5 millionQuote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
yes or no?
Or is your only real argument>>> that we can't prove 100% for certain that Rob didn't hit this? You are probably correct, there's no way to 100% prove that Rob didn't hit this given the information he is willing to provide.
Axel: I DONT KNOW IF ROB HIT IT.
PV I had no idea the 18 yos was such a rare event.
All I thought of was this:
The chance of rolling a yo is 1/18.
The chance of rolling another yo is also 1/18.
The chance of rolling another yo is 1/18.
Meanwhile I'm thinking... roll a 6 shooter.
Not surprising......RIPQuote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Alan, unfortunately there is no way to prove with 100% certainty anything. Every person in prison has not been convicted with 100% certainty. They have been convicted “beyond a reasonable doubt.”
Alan, you like to gamble. If someone gave you odds assuming there was a way to get an answer, what would the odds need to be at to get you to wager?
Would you wager $100 to win $10 that he DID NOT hit this jackpot?
Deep Thoughts...Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Today I found out that the odds to bowl a 300 game with an 8 pound ball is .00000002
That's pretty close to 18 Elevens in a row isn't it?
Maybe not... what is that... 50 Million to 1?
Fuck... Math is Hard.
I wonder if Big Foot is real because I never seen him but I never seen anyone disprove that Big Foot isn't real and a lot of people say he is real.
So it seems that the 1.5 Million Dollar Jackpot is like believing in God.
You have to have faith.
Proof not allowed.
Seriously? WTF, have you turned gay on us and now think you might get a shot at his 9.5? I'm begging you to go back and read how you claimed Rob was the worst person ever for deceiving, lying, and using you for years (Something along those lines) I'm not even in an argument with you if he did hit or do XY or Z, I'm just stating that your opinion on matters such as this are totally irrelevant and one would be a huge favorite to take the opposing side of whomever you seem to be siding with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan MendelsonWhat makes you think there isnt a solid video or photo? Wouldn't it just fit Singer's style to string everybody along?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfBecause someone gambling with 400k is interested in having workout equipment standing by just in case. If that person has the forethought to request that you think they would have the ability to get a solid picture/ video of this monumental event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
First the pictures on a computer screen.
Then a full photo with nothing chopped off?
What do you think is next?
I'm not going to jump to any conclusions.
And for you Newell fans... what if he posted the photo of the made-up contract on purpose?
Question: if you were Rob Singer would you get more satisfaction ending a thread on VCT or watching it grow and grow consuming wasted time?
I guarantee you Rob is enjoying every minute.
P.S I read your original reasons why you didn't read /accept Red's package and it had nothing to do with being afraid, so are you lying to us now, or were you lying to us then?
I’m not necessarily saying you should have bet, because after each roll the odds are still the same 1/18. A new roll is independent of prior rolls. I probably would have bet, only because after a number of yos in a row I would think the fix was in and I would have wanted in!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I’m more thinking the probability of this occurring is off the charts.
What are your odds for and against?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I bet there are multiple people that would give big odds that Rob can't provide legitimate proof he hit this.
FFS, Max offered him 5k, basically just to show up tonight. I guarantee you Max wasn't bullshitting about that. Yeah, Mickey And Max can fuck with each other and say whatever they want about each other, however, I believe both of them to be honorable when it comes to making a deal/bet. I know for a fact thus far Max has been more than trustworthy with large amounts of cash.
Axelwolf to Alan:
Although I just don't see the need for the initial gay reference, the rest of this is spot on. Another bullseye!Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Now if yall want to get into this 9.5" inch discussion and boy, it sure seems like you all do, guys that claim they have a big dick....never do! That is just an insecurity thing. And more importantly, whatever Rob is packing and having seen his hands in the video (the hands rarely lie), I suspect it is about 5.5, not 9.5, but whatever it is, I can guarantee he can't and hasn't gotten it hard in years, so now we are down to talking 2.5. That puts him in Napolean Bonapart territory. :cool:
GTFOOH, of course, you should have bet after the 6-17th time at some point, any logical smart gambler would have realized it's no longer random and there's money to be made. No one in their right mind would be sitting there all nonchalant after 10 in a row thinking it's just randomly happening. They would have to be totally fucking retarded if they thought that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVarianceI’m not necessarily saying you should have bet, because after each roll the odds are still the same 1/18. A new roll is independent of prior rolls. I probably would have bet, only because after a number of yos in a row I would think the fix was in and I would have wanted in!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I’m more thinking the probability of this occurring is off the charts.
If Rob really did hit this he could probably get $500k to $1million in wagers from the forum alone, wagering that he didn’t hit this. A money wager with Escrow will shut him down.
Everyone is doubting him, but he won’t set any terms with an attorney and escrow. He has already proven to be a flake. Any wager with him has to be completed with an attorney and escrow.
IIRC, Dan Druff or somebody did the math and it was astronomical. Much, much higher than you would even suspect. I think the conclusion was the odds were about the same as getting hit by lightning....11 consecutive days or something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
There were three of us at the table. None of us bet on the yo. So what fix was in?Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVarianceI’m not necessarily saying you should have bet, because after each roll the odds are still the same 1/18. A new roll is independent of prior rolls. I probably would have bet, only because after a number of yos in a row I would think the fix was in and I would have wanted in!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I’m more thinking the probability of this occurring is off the charts.
The shooter had a point of 6.
Alan goes out of his way to tell this forum that the $ 1,000,000 is fake. Come'on now. Let that sink in.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfSeriously? WTF, have you turned gay on us and now think you might get a shot at his 9.5? I'm begging you to go back and read how you claimed Rob was the worst person ever for deceiving, lying, and using you for years (Something along those lines) I'm not even in an argument with you if he did hit or do XY or Z, I'm just stating that your opinion on matters such as this are totally irrelevant and one would be a huge favorite to take the opposing side of whomever you seem to be siding with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan MendelsonWhat makes you think there isnt a solid video or photo? Wouldn't it just fit Singer's style to string everybody along?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
First the pictures on a computer screen.
Then a full photo with nothing chopped off?
What do you think is next?
I'm not going to jump to any conclusions.
And for you Newell fans... what if he posted the photo of the made-up contract on purpose?
Question: if you were Rob Singer would you get more satisfaction ending a thread on VCT or watching it grow and grow consuming wasted time?
I guarantee you Rob is enjoying every minute.
P.S I read your original reasons why you didn't read /accept Red's package and it had nothing to do with being afraid, so are you lying to us now, or were you lying to us then?
Ever play craps? After 3 11s would you expect a 4th?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfGTFOOH, of course, you should have bet after the 6-17th time at some point, any logical smart gambler would have realized it's no longer random and there's money to be made. No one in their right mind would be sitting there all nonchalant after 10 in a row thinking it's just randomly happening. They would have to be totally fucking retarded if they thought that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVarianceI’m not necessarily saying you should have bet, because after each roll the odds are still the same 1/18. A new roll is independent of prior rolls. I probably would have bet, only because after a number of yos in a row I would think the fix was in and I would have wanted in!Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I’m more thinking the probability of this occurring is off the charts.
After ten 11s would you expect an eleventh?
Hindsight is always 20/20.
Besides donkeys bet the horn. It's a bad bet.
Gay references are just fun when the person probably isn't gay.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJAxelwolf to Alan:
Although I just don't see the need for the initial gay reference, the rest of this is spot on. Another bullseye!Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Now if yall want to get into this 9.5" inch discussion and boy, it sure seems like you all do, guys that claim they have a big dick....never do! That is just an insecurity thing. And more importantly, whatever Rob is packing and having seen his hands in the video (the hands rarely lie), I suspect it is about 5.5, not 9.5, but whatever it is, I can guarantee he can't and hasn't gotten it hard in years, so now we are down to talking 2.5. That puts him in Napolean Bonapart territory. :cool:
"DON'T BE GAY."
"THAT'S SO GAY."
"YOUR SO FUCKING GAY."
"GAYTARD" (I don't know if anyone else says that or it's a thing, I have said it jokingly)
Are not really gay hate or homophobic, it's just a term meaning you're dumb or something like that. Yeah, I understand that it originally came from a place of hate, but I'm sure lots of things that are now acceptable and mainstream have come from a more sinister meaning.
I'll say whatever I want as long as I know I'm not using it in a hateful way, heck I'll just say what I want when I want, hateful or not.
I don't hate gay people I like and fully support them. I have zero issues with their lifestyle or sex practices. I'm 100% certain people are born Gay/BI or whatever (Born or develop their sexual preferences at a super young age).
Not only that, I get to make fun of Rob's claim of a 9.5
I've never made a Gay slur. There is no need for it. Gay is not a substitute term for disagreeing with a post.
Rob texted me back. I won't reveal what he told me, but I said to him "you created your own mess."
It would be improper of me to post his text and I won't. Don't ask me to.
I tried to be independent.
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Originally Posted by kewlJIIRC, Dan Druff or somebody did the math and it was astronomical. Much, much higher than you would even suspect. I think the conclusion was the odds were about the same as getting hit by lightning....11 consecutive days or something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by PositiveVariance
My simple calculator couldn’t go up that high, so I computed in a little different.
There are approximately 243 Craps tables in Las Vegas
If someone stood at each table and threw continuously all day, 24 hours per day. 100 rolls per hour
243 tables constantly shooting dice, 24 hours per day it would take on average approximately:
160,000,000,000 Years
160 BILLION YEARS to see 18 YOs in a row.
That’s for it to happen a single time at any given table.
I will check my math tomorrow, but it looks pretty good.