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Originally Posted by jdaewoo
Stop harassing me and bringing up a one time mistake that I regretted the very next day.
You did ask for his opinion when you recently started a thread asking what you could do to become a better poster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
He said to get off the forum, which is certainly a viable option and in response to your request for ideas: call it "the nuclear option."
You owe that man an apology.
If the apology is required for him to come back, then I would say that he is conditionally banned. Not that it's important. As has been mentioned, ZK doesn't seem to care to come back.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaIt's the truth. Zenking isn't BANNED, he's on an extended Suspension. The old me who was desperate to be reinstated on WOV would have hesitated to call out Wizard like this but now that I no longer care about being Reinstated on WOV, I can call out Wizard freely.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
No, the Admins themselves said that Zenking is on an extended Suspension, not conditionally banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146If the apology is required for him to come back, then I would say that he is conditionally banned. Not that it's important. As has been mentioned, ZK doesn't seem to care to come back.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaIt's the truth. Zenking isn't BANNED, he's on an extended Suspension. The old me who was desperate to be reinstated on WOV would have hesitated to call out Wizard like this but now that I no longer care about being Reinstated on WOV, I can call out Wizard freely.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
Tasha…..what’s this story about you taking a shit on the floor of Church’s chicken and going right back to eating your meal?
I heard the same story while playing a slot machine in FL. I openly gasped in amazement that Tasha might do such a thing and then someone snuck around hit the cashout button and took my ticket ! I now think it was a lie about Tasha and very rude.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
What are the stories some of the other readers have heard while in casinos?
I always thought Tasha shitting on the floor of a Church's chicken was just a Miami urban legend. Huh, who would have imagined it was true. That's disgusting, Tasha.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionI heard the same story while playing a slot machine in FL. I openly gasped in amazement that Tasha might do such a thing and then someone snuck around hit the cashout button and took my ticket ! I now think it was a lie about Tasha and very rude.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
What are the stories some of the other readers have heard while in casinos?
I heard the Church's chicken manager made her haul that shit out of there in one of her hobo bags. Nasty bitch probably left that bag on the bus....RIP
Look - you don't need to call her such names. She was probably insanely sick and it could have happened to any of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
Many years ago this happened at the Bellagio!! A dealer had a really bad day and just couldn't hold it any longer. Floor was too busy to sit.
For months after that, every poker dealer carried around a little towel to sit on.
This NEVER happened to me. This is how rumors get started.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionLook - you don't need to call her such names. She was probably insanely sick and it could have happened to any of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
Many years ago this happened at the Bellagio!! A dealer had a really bad day and just couldn't hold it any longer. Floor was too busy to sit.
For months after that, every poker dealer carried around a little towel to sit on.
Tasha, is it true that you tried feeding Monopoly money into a slot machine's bill receptor?
And that you didn't get free parking but instead went to jail?
This is a good chance for you to be a better poster. There seems to be some discrepancies here in the way it actually happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaThis NEVER happened to me. This is how rumors get started.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionLook - you don't need to call her such names. She was probably insanely sick and it could have happened to any of us.Quote:
Originally Posted by MaxPen
Many years ago this happened at the Bellagio!! A dealer had a really bad day and just couldn't hold it any longer. Floor was too busy to sit.
For months after that, every poker dealer carried around a little towel to sit on.
Some say you couldn’t make it to the bathroom, others are saying did it on purpose, no one is sure if you wiped before going back to eating the chicken and we aren’t even sure if you cleaned it up or not. On another forum it says you only had a 3 piece meal, not a 4 piece and there is a debate over there if it was the original or the spicy. Clearing that up may help people avoid the spicy if you are blaming it on that. We don’t even know what side you ordered with the chicken. And then we need to know if you left the bag on the bus or not.
You really need to get in front of this to get your side of the story out before it gets said you were eating your feces at a slot machine. Any good PR firm would give you the same advice. You have always had an issue with the truth but this is a good time to come clean with the entire story.
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Originally Posted by The BozThis is a good chance for you to be a better poster. There seems to be some discrepancies here in the way it actually happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaThis NEVER happened to me. This is how rumors get started.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Some say you couldn’t make it to the bathroom, others are saying did it on purpose, no one is sure if you wiped before going back to eating the chicken and we aren’t even sure if you cleaned it up or not. On another forum it says you only had a 3 piece meal, not a 4 piece and there is a debate over there if it was the original or the spicy. Clearing that up may help people avoid the spicy if you are blaming it on that. We don’t even know what side you ordered with the chicken. And then we need to know if you left the bag on the bus or not.
You really need to get in front of this to get your side of the story out before it gets said you were eating your feces at a slot machine. Any good PR firm would give you the same advice. You have always had an issue with the truth but this is a good time to come clean with the entire story.
The CLOSEST I ever came to losing control of myself in a Church's Chicken Place was the time I had to pee REALLY badly and they were already closing and cleaning up. I knocked on the door and begged them to let me in as I had a REALLY big pee emergency. They let me in, and I peed in the toilet, not on the floor. And of course I washed my hands before and after. I certainly wasn't eating.
What a fuckin`disgusting pigQuote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
Tasha you rank !Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
I just got off the phone with the Church's manager. He said Tasha is 86'd. Then he told me about how she REKT a Starbucks down the street last week and sent me a pic....RIP
OMG
It appears there is video of the incident.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=deofwLXu_VM
After some research I found the original complaint on a Church’s site.
When the little turd rolled down your leg Tasha why didn't you just throw it away !!!
Why did you put it in your bag and take it home ?
How do we know you didn't create that Account and make up that complain yourself?Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozAfter some research I found the original complaint on a Church’s site.
Nathan/Tasha I knew you liked to shit in public. I’ve seen you do it many times at Zoo Miami. But shitting in a public restaurant is a new low, even for you
Multiple reasons including whomever wrote this is a talented writer on Missions Level, which I’m not.Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaHow do we know you didn't create that Account and make up that complain yourself?Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozAfter some research I found the original complaint on a Church’s site.
Also I have never been in a Church’s in Miami so how could I have been the eyewitness?
If I did it I would have been much more graphic including the person eating the chicken after picking up the shit.
And by the way, if you had to piss so bad why did you wash your hands BEFORE taking the piss?
“ And of course I washed my hands before and after. I certainly wasn't eating”
It is a good question. Who washes their hands before taking a piss? Sounds like a manufactured detail to impart a feeling of truth where there might not actually be one.
Is it true you pick the scabs and let em run before having sex?
If you have a dick that you care about, that you might ever stick into a woman that you care about, then you would wash your hands before taking a piss, especially in a casinoQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
The only reason to wash your hands after taking a piss is because you pissed on your hands.
Except for retards like you, who sit down, pick their ass, and then take a piss with shit on their hands.
Fucking hillbillies.
Lol. PRETTY sure I'm not the weird one here, dickhands. It is just common expectation of people to wash their hands after taking a piss, but yea I suppose you have a point Mr Clean penis Romeo.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyIf you have a dick that you care about, that you might ever stick into a woman that you care about, then you would wash your hands before taking a piss, especially in a casinoQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
The only reason to wash your hands after taking a piss is because you pissed on your hands.
Except for retards like you, who sit down, pick their ass, and then take a piss with shit on their hands.
Fucking hillbillies.
What a goofball.
I piss standing up and wash my hands after peeing. I understand this is abnormal behavior to you. Ok. We agree to disagree.
Good to see someone batting for poor Tasha. Gave me a few good chuckles today at least.
What's wrong with washing them before AND after?
You don't ever have to wash your hands as long as you occasionally eat Spicy Ramen and Raw Cactus while washing it down with Spoiled Milk and a Gallon of Habanero Tabasco Sauce.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBoLPFkcEeA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4KPWOUkbw8&t=2s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJ_K960dG4c&t=89s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKxJKXA1LxM&t=543s
Washing before and after? Anyone who spends time in group restrooms like casinos and stadiums sees the worst in poor hygiene behavior. You see drinks placed on the top of urinals while people piss and a majority not washing their hands before or after. Nasty stuff.
As for our discussion on Tasha’s habits, I’m just glad it was finally determined she DOES have a cock as many suspected.
I understand if mom doesn't let you shower or bathe regularly...then your junk could get nasty.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Encourage her to wash her hands after you pee and she tucks you back into your shorts.
No, I just don't want to touch my vulva with dirty hands as I wipe. Using toilet paper doesn't fully prevent the vulva from dirty hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
So you are saying you get shit on your hands when you wipe your ass (assuming you do) as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by TashaNo, I just don't want to touch my vulva with dirty hands as I wipe. Using toilet paper doesn't fully prevent the vulva from dirty hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
In that case I don’t blame you for going back to eating the chicken before cleaning up the mess you dropped at Church’s.
I wouldn't go from casino to sex without, "Shower," appearing somewhere in there, so it's a moot argument as relates me. Only time I've washed my hands before taking a leak is if I had something visible on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyIf you have a dick that you care about, that you might ever stick into a woman that you care about, then you would wash your hands before taking a piss, especially in a casinoQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
The only reason to wash your hands after taking a piss is because you pissed on your hands.
Except for retards like you, who sit down, pick their ass, and then take a piss with shit on their hands.
Fucking hillbillies.
Also, this has become the most disgusting thread I have ever read on any message board. You guys are fucked up. lol
Hey, I gave you credit above for being a talented writer and only someone with your abilities could have wrote the first hand account of the incident at Church’s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
I was just about to mention how quickly this thread went from me pointing out that Zenking is not BANNED, he is on an extended Suspension, so Wizard was wrong to say "Banned," to bathroom habits. It's like,"WTF? :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
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Originally Posted by TashaI was just about to mention how quickly this thread went from me pointing out that Zenking is not BANNED, he is on an extended Suspension, so Wizard was wrong to say "Banned," to bathroom habits. It's like,"WTF? :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
You are the one that shit on the floor of a chicken place. Like always you try to blame others and ignore the subject at hand.
Tasha, many (not all) of the regular posters here attack you for a variety of reasons; i'll list a few.
First, you lied about your identity at WoV causing great amusement, at your expense.
Second, many believe you are not a black woman but some crusty old troll fondling his pecker while posting fantasies.
Third, the text and tenor of your posts are vapid, juvenile, and rarely of interest to most of the hard-boiled swinging dicks that haunt this outhouse.
So don't be surprised when you get flamed and ganged up upon; the thing is though if they didn't have you here to poke fun at they'd probably miss it ... just like an asshole would miss a hemorrhoid.
I got the advice to just ignore the "Went to the bathroom on a Church's Chicken floor," posts as they are clearly made up jokes and will just make me look bad for even responding to them.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
About the WOV thing, the very first "Lie," about my identity was actually a snarky pisstake about Aimee21. I wrote something like,"I'm Nathan, a 32 year old guy who wants to go to Vegas and wants to know what are the best games to play in Vegas. Could you guys help little old me out? Tee hee. " I was actually snarkily making fun of Aimee21 who posted a similar question. I didn't know People would take my snarky joke seriously.
Edit. I wrote my quote by Memory. I found the actual thread and my quote by Memory was actually not far off;)
https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-...-hi-im-nathan/
While I appreciate the compliment...Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozHey, I gave you credit above for being a talented writer and only someone with your abilities could have wrote the first hand account of the incident at Church’s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
1.) The, "Chicken," in Church's Chicken should have been capitalized.
2.) "Three-piece," meal would have been more appropriate than, "3 piece meal." Generally, you only want to use digits for numbers greater than ten.
3.) While the pronoun, 'It,' was not technically incorrect in the following sentence, the writer should have specified what the observed individual was shoving in her mouth. Given that the individual was eating a meal, it could have been a biscuit.
4.) The following sentence is a fragment and should have just been connected to the preceding sentence with a comma.
5.) It should say, "Out of her shorts," rather than, "Out her shorts."
6.) There should be a comma after, "Employees," in the second to last sentence. Actually, the way it is written, it implies that the, "Lady who was homeless," might be the other entity who feels bad for the employees, rather than the writer.
What I will compliment is that the writer of that is better with imagery (though, unfortunately so, in this case) than I am.
In the Scavening Abandoned Tickets thread Mission146 posted an article he wrote a few years back about knowing the laws. Here's a link.
https://wizardofvegas.com/articles/k...-laws-part-II/
A good part of the article was about Colorado gaming laws. From 92 until 96 I spent quite a bit of time playing poker in Colorado. I can tell you that the gaming regulations there are the most strictly enforced in the country. And I also know how it came to be that way.
In the 80's Cripple Creek, Colorado was an old mining town that had been a ghost town for decades. There was a little bit of summer tourism as some people wanted to see an old high mountain town. But not that much economic activity. The two and 3 story brick buildings, built around the turn of the 19th century, lined both sides of the street for a couple of blocks. Throw down 10K and a building was yours. Thats how bad things were there.
There was an old guy there called the Colonel that had an old time wild west photo shop he operated in the summers. One day he was reading a newspaper and caught an article about Deadwood, South Dakota and how legalized gambling had revived the town. And he thought Cripple Creek could sure use something like that.
The Colonel started the movement to get gaming into the mountain towns of Cripple Creek, Blackhawk and Central City. They started by trying to get it thru the legislature but the christian Governor, Roy Roemer, was adamantly opposed to legalized gambling in any form and threatened to veto any legislation. He was highly concerned about crime that legalization might bring.
So the Colonel and his cohorts decided to get enough signatures to get it on statewide ballot. It was a way to go over the Governor's head. He couldn't veto a vote of the people. The ballot initiative was a success and in 1991 gaming was legalized in the mountain towns.
However, the Governor had the right to appoint the Colorado Gaming Commission which would write all the laws governing the gaming. He appointed people that were more known for being squeaky clean anti gamblers than having any experience in gaming.
They basically copied Nevada regulations but made them more strict. Gaming agents would regularly enter casinos and give pop quizzes to employee's on the gaming regulations. Every kind of dispute or discrepency had to be handled exactly the same in every casino.
They weren't just strict on customers. They were strict on casino employee's too. It was against the law for anyone to be visibly intoxicated on premises. And it was against the law for an employee to allow anyone visibly intoxicated to stay on property. Both could be charged.
Early on the houses and gaming agents didn't know anything about abandoned credits on the machines. All the houses had bartop video pokers. You had to feed coins in but they held credits. There were pigeon holes underneath where coins that didn't register would go. Players didn't know about the pigeon holes. After a busy night I could sit down at a bar and pull handfuls of quarters and dollars out of the pigeon holes.
There was also a lot of couponing. There was one guy I knew that was working it heavily. He drew the ire of certain employee's. Then they saw him taking credits off a machine and contacted gaming. He may have been the first charged with petty theft over taking $2. This was about 1994.
There was the case of someone getting arrested for using a strategy card at the blackjack table. It was one of those cards you find in the gift shops in vegas. Not worth the paper it's printed on. I tried to follow the case but lost track of it. Years later I eventually got a question to Arnold Snyder about it on GWAE. . Snyder tried to get someone to take the case pro bono when it happened. He couldn't exactly remember but he thought the case was eventually thrown out.
Gaming agents went after card counters too. We're talking $5 max bet blackjack. It was probably 15 years before they learned card counting isn't illegal.
This goes back to the old Phoenix House Cardroom in Cripple Creek. A gaming agent came in and seen a pot get shoved to one person in the Omaha Hi-Lo 8 or Better game. The other player in the pot failed to make an 8 low. He made the dealer split the pot because, he said, there was nothing in the regulations sanctifying the 8 qualifier. He advised all poker rooms they were breaking the law if using the 8 qualifier. So thereafter the Omaha Hi-Lo game was played without a qualifier. That is, until months later a new regulation sanctified it. LOL.
Nice post mickey. I want to address the card counter quote, but first, I was following 2 cases a few years ago and it is hard to follow these cases. Both just sort of disappeared from the news. The first was a case in Pennsylvania, where a team of AP's using many player cards, I guess along the lines of what Darkoz does was busted. I can see why that is problematic for casinos and technically illegal, but if you enforce that 100%, every husband and wife, or person collecting free play from a relative should be busted and the casinos have always looked the other way on that.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
This brings me to the second case which was in Colorado which was about a husband wife (I believe) playing on and collecting each others free play. I was shocked that they would make a case against a husband wife or any relative. If anyone was going to it would be Colorado, I guess. :rolleyes: Anyway, both cases just sort of disappeared from the news. Probably settled with small fine or in the case of husband and wife, maybe just dismissed.
So to your quote above. My career, 18 years now, has exactly matched the expansion of casinos and new jurisdictions in the U.S. None of these new jurisdictions understood that card counting isn't illegal. How can thinking be illegal? They all seemed to want to make some kind of case against card counters. Some learned the hard way, via Mr Nersesian. Some I guess figured it out as they went. Some still haven't learned this. :(
Some, like Pennsylvania, actually have things written into their laws that I believe are illegal, and if challenged and a good lawyer that understands like Nersesian, were to explain it to a judge or jury that really understood what he was explaining, the law or state regulation would fall. Lot of "ifs" there though. Most judges or even jury just wouldn't understand, wouldn't even have an interest in understanding, so these laws and state regulations have remained.
Anyway, over the years, you frequently see blackjack players, including legitimate AP's and professional players say or post that Las Vegas is sweaty and not tolerant. I am often asked why I play mostly Vegas when there are better places with better rules. The answer is that Vegas understand the rules and laws. They know what is illegal and what isn't. Sure sometimes they need a little reminder, usually at the hands of Mr Nersesian, but they know and I know, what is illegal or against state regulations and I know exactly what my remedies are should some real problem occur.
In these other jurisdictions, try fighting people (pit and administrative) about laws and regulations that they don't even know what they are...you don't get far. :D Basically I want to know the rules and know that the other side knows the rules. Not have people making things up as they go because they don't know. These other jurisdictions are basically playing a game that they don't even know the rules to or are still learning the rules.
That and the abundance of game, the sheer number in close proximity are why I choose to call Las Vegas home.
You play in LV because they know the laws?
That may be part of it, but based on your prior posts I thought the main reason you played there is because the large number of casinos allows you to play at many different venues and thus count cards under the radar.
Hey MrV. you troublemaker, pot stirrer. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I am not saying it was the only reason or even one of the TOP reasons. Let's say there were a variety of reasons. :cool:
But back in spring summer 2009, when it became obvious I had worn out my welcome in Atlantic City and my days numbers, I considered several options for my next move. One being to stay where I was, in Phila for a couple more years and play the Pennsylvania casinos, which at that time were open but did not have table games. Table games were due to start and the good rules (s17) were rumored. Staying in Pa for a couple years bouncing around the casinos in eastern Pa, and nearby Delaware, with occasional trips elsewhere, would have required me to start driving, something I didn't do at that time. I also didn't think that a permanent solution. I wanted a big rotation to play and in the end, that was going to be Vegas.
Another consideration was spending a couple years in the midwest, upper Michigan, Wisconsin area and spend a couple years driving around all the Indian Casinos there. At that time that was the rage among card counters....all the great rules in the midwest Indian casinos. Problem is I knew players that played these casinos regularly and either weren't winning or were winning far below expectation, despite these so called better conditions. I am not saying they were cheating or not offering honest games, but I just was never comfortable with the level of oversight....sometimes none at Indian Casinos. There were also reported cases of Indian casinos detaining players and confiscating chips.
In the end, I want to play where I know as much as I can what is going on and what the rules are, what is legal and what isn't. Vegas sort of checked all my boxes and vegas is where I was always going to end up. I believe Vegas was my destiny. I love it here for a variety of reasons. :)
Now moving on, MrV, I know you meant nothing by it, but I take exception to the following line: "is because the large number of casinos allows you to play at many different venues and thus count cards under the radar."
Nobody is allowing me to count cards, nor do I think I am under the radar. When I moved here, I didn't know how long I would last. Vegas had a reputation of being sweaty. I specifically came up with a plan, to spread my play around to the large number of games available, some only mediocre as far as rules and condition. So mediocre that other card counters won't bother with. I worked hard to learn just what would be tolerated and what wouldn't. Betting levels, length of time playing (short sessions), win amounts. Part of that process was getting backed off when I was wrong and my play fell outside comfort levels. And these levels change by casino, by day of week, time of day, crowded vs uncrowded conditions. Eventually, I learned and my backoffs decreased.
Anyway, maybe I am being a little sensitive, but nobody is allowing me anything. I worked at learning my game, including what is and isn't tolerated. I think I know Vegas blackjack pretty darn well. And that is why when someone comes along claiming things that aren't the way Vegas works, I can spot it right away. I usually keep those doubts to myself, but ya know in select cases, I just feel the need to call "bullshit". ;)
In re-reading your comment MisterV, I realize you were not saying the casinos allowed anything, but rather the large number allowed for this or that. Yes, you are right and my apology for mis-interpreting your comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
kj
No worries, KJ.
I enjoy reading your posts about BJ even though it isn't my game.
That's a nice "story" kew, but for any true professional gambler to consider LV as third option when they continue to say they play there because of how "simple" it is to stay under the radar, deserves 4 solid Pinocchio's. Kudos to Mr. V for calling you out on that, which also very clearly explains why you needed to reply twice to his zinger. You kept wondering, uncomfortably, if your bullshit dissolved effectively enough, what he was saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJHey MrV. you troublemaker, pot stirrer. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I am not saying it was the only reason or even one of the TOP reasons. Let's say there were a variety of reasons. :cool:
But back in spring summer 2009, when it became obvious I had worn out my welcome in Atlantic City and my days numbers, I considered several options for my next move. One being to stay where I was, in Phila for a couple more years and play the Pennsylvania casinos, which at that time were open but did not have table games. Table games were due to start and the good rules (s17) were rumored. Staying in Pa for a couple years bouncing around the casinos in eastern Pa, and nearby Delaware, with occasional trips elsewhere, would have required me to start driving, something I didn't do at that time. I also didn't think that a permanent solution. I wanted a big rotation to play and in the end, that was going to be Vegas.
Another consideration was spending a couple years in the midwest, upper Michigan, Wisconsin area and spend a couple years driving around all the Indian Casinos there. At that time that was the rage among card counters....all the great rules in the midwest Indian casinos. Problem is I knew players that played these casinos regularly and either weren't winning or were winning far below expectation, despite these so called better conditions. I am not saying they were cheating or not offering honest games, but I just was never comfortable with the level of oversight....sometimes none at Indian Casinos. There were also reported cases of Indian casinos detaining players and confiscating chips.
In the end, I want to play where I know as much as I can what is going on and what the rules are, what is legal and what isn't. Vegas sort of checked all my boxes and vegas is where I was always going to end up. I believe Vegas was my destiny. I love it here for a variety of reasons. :)
Now moving on, MrV, I know you meant nothing by it, but I take exception to the following line: "is because the large number of casinos allows you to play at many different venues and thus count cards under the radar."
Nobody is allowing me to count cards, nor do I think I am under the radar. When I moved here, I didn't know how long I would last. Vegas had a reputation of being sweaty. I specifically came up with a plan, to spread my play around to the large number of games available, some only mediocre as far as rules and condition. So mediocre that other card counters won't bother with. I worked hard to learn just what would be tolerated and what wouldn't. Betting levels, length of time playing (short sessions), win amounts. Part of that process was getting backed off when I was wrong and my play fell outside comfort levels. And these levels change by casino, by day of week, time of day, crowded vs uncrowded conditions. Eventually, I learned and my backoffs decreased.
Anyway, maybe I am being a little sensitive, but nobody is allowing me anything. I worked at learning my game, including what is and isn't tolerated. I think I know Vegas blackjack pretty darn well. And that is why when someone comes along claiming things that aren't the way Vegas works, I can spot it right away. I usually keep those doubts to myself, but ya know in select cases, I just feel the need to call "bullshit". ;)
Posts like these are quite revealing Rob. Unknowingly, you reveal the insight as to how you a 20 year troll making up stories and claims, altering previous stories, claims and timelines, thinks. You weigh things in your mind as to whether people will believe your story or claim. I mean we can see you doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I and others have no need to do that. I mean it is something that never even crosses our mind. We just share our experiences and that's it. If there are people who have questions or may not understand, we try to explain. But if it is someone who doesn't want to understand or believe something, it is a waste of time.
Rob, I have been on gambling/blackjack message boards since 2006. I have shared my experiences as I was going through them. That's what I wanted to do. And nothing about my story or experiences has ever changed. Nothing. It is remarkably consistent for one simple reason. It is the truth and I have no lies to remember like you. I don't need to consider what would play better or anything like that, which you have now revealed that you do.
About the only time I wasn't honest was the fake death situation, when I was trying to protect myself after being robbed and anyone that doesn't see or understand that again, doesn't want to see or understand that situation.
So yeah, I am sure YOU would weigh in your mind what is believable and what you can get away with as far as your phony claims, but the rest of us, don't need to do that....don't need to think like that.
You blacks are a strange people. :D
And anyone else on this forum that may be black, please take no offense at my black references. I just like to remind Rob, who has proven to be a racist and bigot of his African heritage. I like to remind him, that he is exactly what he hates most. :cool:
One can only wonder the level of conflict kew has going on through his mind. He takes a direct hit----so he responds with a copy of one of his canned essays. The definition of CHAOS. And he does this on every forum :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJPosts like these are quite revealing Rob. Unknowingly, you reveal the insight as to how you a 20 year troll making up stories and claims, altering previous stories, claims and timelines, thinks. You weigh things in your mind as to whether people will believe your story or claim. I mean we can see you doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I and others have no need to do that. I mean it is something that never even crosses our mind. We just share our experiences and that's it. If there are people who have questions or may not understand, we try to explain. But if it is someone who doesn't want to understand or believe something, it is a waste of time.
Rob, I have been on gambling/blackjack message boards since 2006. I have shared my experiences as I was going through them. That's what I wanted to do. And nothing about my story or experiences has ever changed. Nothing. It is remarkably consistent for one simple reason. It is the truth and I have no lies to remember like you. I don't need to consider what would play better or anything like that, which you have now revealed that you do.
About the only time I wasn't honest was the fake death situation, when I was trying to protect myself after being robbed and anyone that doesn't see or understand that again, doesn't want to see or understand that situation.
So yeah, I am sure YOU would weigh in your mind what is believable and what you can get away with as far as your phony claims, but the rest of us, don't need to do that....don't need to think like that.
You blacks are a strange people. :D
And anyone else on this forum that may be black, please take no offense at my black references. I just like to remind Rob, who has proven to be a racist and bigot of his African heritage. I like to remind him, that he is exactly what he hates most. :cool:
Is it even possible to imagine the absolute misery and torture he's forced to endure as he reads forums who've dumped this loser loner who gets laughed at everywhere for his concocted internet forum life tales? Not being able to "post and set the record straight according to his make-believe fairy world" has to drive such an insecure doofus out of his mind. He not only takes it up the ass....he TAKES IT UP THE ASS!!
Great post, Mickey, thanks for the history on that!
If this is how Rob feels about kewlJ's essays, imagine how Rob feels about knowing Rob has internet videos, permanently available to all, where he opines on his ability to telepathically read video poker machines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerOne can only wonder the level of conflict kew has going on through his mind. He takes a direct hit----so he responds with a copy of one of his canned essays. The definition of CHAOS. And he does this on every forum :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJPosts like these are quite revealing Rob. Unknowingly, you reveal the insight as to how you a 20 year troll making up stories and claims, altering previous stories, claims and timelines, thinks. You weigh things in your mind as to whether people will believe your story or claim. I mean we can see you doing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I and others have no need to do that. I mean it is something that never even crosses our mind. We just share our experiences and that's it. If there are people who have questions or may not understand, we try to explain. But if it is someone who doesn't want to understand or believe something, it is a waste of time.
Rob, I have been on gambling/blackjack message boards since 2006. I have shared my experiences as I was going through them. That's what I wanted to do. And nothing about my story or experiences has ever changed. Nothing. It is remarkably consistent for one simple reason. It is the truth and I have no lies to remember like you. I don't need to consider what would play better or anything like that, which you have now revealed that you do.
About the only time I wasn't honest was the fake death situation, when I was trying to protect myself after being robbed and anyone that doesn't see or understand that again, doesn't want to see or understand that situation.
So yeah, I am sure YOU would weigh in your mind what is believable and what you can get away with as far as your phony claims, but the rest of us, don't need to do that....don't need to think like that.
You blacks are a strange people. :D
And anyone else on this forum that may be black, please take no offense at my black references. I just like to remind Rob, who has proven to be a racist and bigot of his African heritage. I like to remind him, that he is exactly what he hates most. :cool:
Is it even possible to imagine the absolute misery and torture he's forced to endure as he reads forums who've dumped this loser loner who gets laughed at everywhere for his concocted internet forum life tales? Not being able to "post and set the record straight according to his make-believe fairy world" has to drive such an insecure doofus out of his mind. He not only takes it up the ass....he TAKES IT UP THE ASS!!
I'm trying to understand how it would feel if I said I could precognitively handicap football games, and my saying it could be viewed by unlimited numbers of people in perpetuity.
I'd try to move to a different planet. Or make up some cockamamie story that I was in the CIA posing as a precog so I could fool the Russians and save the U.S. from disaster, or something like that. While driving a Newell, of course, which I sold in three days to Israelis after taking out the cheapest, shortest ad in RV Trader to sell a half million dollar vehicle. After posing in a Newell at a dealership down the highway from my daughter's place and saying it was mine. While I kept mine under wraps for the Israelis, of course.
Yeah, I give up. Nothing anybody writes is going to affect Rob's online legacy. People will be looking at the Rob in the Newell with the same squeegee a thousand years from now, trying to figure out why the hell the people running forums put this stuff on their sites. It is a legacy for the ages. Dissertations will be written. Documentaries will be made. Rob's great grandchildren will be selling movie rights, kind of like Custer.
Thanks, Mission. I failed to mention that when Roy Roemer appointed the Gaming Commission members he told them he wanted the gaming regulations strictly enforced on both gamblers and casino employee's. The Commission has taken a tough line ever since. Casino employee's probably report the credit hustling because they themselves don't want to get on the wrong side with the Gaming Commission.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
BTW, I hung your Nutty Professor article on Twitter. I have 1300 followers so it will get some views.
Not that it matters but I have never taken anything, including a penis in my ass. If I wanted to do such a thing I would, but I just have no desire. I think that particular orifice is an exit, not an entrance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
But let's discuss Rob's obsession with homosexuals and homosexual acts. In my experience, every time someone is filled with such homophobic hate as Rob, they are a closet fag. Rob is the perfect example, of a guy from an early generation, who cowardly hides in the closet, sneaking around in parks and bathroom stalls sucking dick and based on Rob's rhetoric, no doubt taking it up the ass himself and then running home to his beard of 40 years, claiming to hate queers.
We have seen this movie a thousand times. These people like Rob are cowards and liars. No surprise there since everything this person has ever said or claims has turned out and been proven to be a lie. This is a self hating, bitter old dude.
That's awesome, thanks for the pop!Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThanks, Mission. I failed to mention that when Roy Roemer appointed the Gaming Commission members he told them he wanted the gaming regulations strictly enforced on both gamblers and casino employee's. The Commission has taken a tough line ever since. Casino employee's probably report the credit hustling because they themselves don't want to get on the wrong side with the Gaming Commission.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
BTW, I hung your Nutty Professor article on Twitter. I have 1300 followers so it will get some views.
I'm already getting feedback. Several people have liked the article. One guy commented that Professor Slots probably makes more than slot AP's because of all the gullible people in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146That's awesome, thanks for the pop!Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThanks, Mission. I failed to mention that when Roy Roemer appointed the Gaming Commission members he told them he wanted the gaming regulations strictly enforced on both gamblers and casino employee's. The Commission has taken a tough line ever since. Casino employee's probably report the credit hustling because they themselves don't want to get on the wrong side with the Gaming Commission.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146
BTW, I hung your Nutty Professor article on Twitter. I have 1300 followers so it will get some views.
Mission, Professor Slots followed me on twitter several months ago. But myself and some other slot AP's blocked him. I just unblocked him. The guy has 10K followers. I've always said if you want to make money selling information on gambling then sell pie in the sky to the ploppies. They're a huge market compared to serious gamblers.
Anyways, someone sent me something he wrote in response to your article. It's posted below. On Twitter I sent him a link to the Professor Slots thread on WoV and suggested he participate in it.
Thank you for explaining things that homos believe leaves a chocolate taste in their mouths. Next time, leave out the essays nobody reads, and just SAY it.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNot that it matters but I have never taken anything, including a penis in my ass. If I wanted to do such a thing I would, but I just have no desire. I think that particular orifice is an exit, not an entrance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
But let's discuss Rob's obsession with homosexuals and homosexual acts. In my experience, every time someone is filled with such homophobic hate as Rob, they are a closet fag. Rob is the perfect example, of a guy from an early generation, who cowardly hides in the closet, sneaking around in parks and bathroom stalls sucking dick and based on Rob's rhetoric, no doubt taking it up the ass himself and then running home to his beard of 40 years, claiming to hate queers.
We have seen this movie a thousand times. These people like Rob are cowards and liars. No surprise there since everything this person has ever said or claims has turned out and been proven to be a lie. This is a self hating, bitter old dude.
You are just a gross, disgusting, lowlife, pig of a person. I can't wait for you to die. The forum, the world will be a better place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Now tell us again, how you are not like this in real life. You just choose to be a nasty asshole on the forums. You bitter, old fucktwad.
I guess when you have a nine inch cock, a former career as a 007 and a working relationship with Mossad you can pretty much rule internet forums.
Or a very bitter old man, with none of that, no money, no home, a small, shriveled pecker he can't even get hard, mooching off his kids, angry about his life decisions, gambling addiction and where he has ended up in life.....with nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I feel sorry for him, but am just sick of his shit of being a complete prick towards everyone because he fucked up and made bad decisions. If you are that miserable that you can only be a complete prick to everyone, just die already.
KJ, you willingly make up bogus "facts" to feed your need to troll Singer. YOU won't quit. You clearly are addicted to the troll. It's sad that you can't let it go.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJOr a very bitter old man, with none of that, no money, no home, a small, shriveled pecker he can't even get hard, mooching off his kids, angry about his life decisions, gambling addiction and where he has ended up in life.....with nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I feel sorry for him, but am just sick of his shit of being a complete prick towards everyone because he fucked up and made bad decisions. If you are that miserable that you can only be a complete prick to everyone, just die already.
Here we have this shyster, Professor Slots, entering the picture. Not one peep out of you about him. I thought you went after clowns like that. That's what you said you do.
And NOT a peep out of you when your buddy Singer continues to spew the nasty hate at me, mickey. So don't give me that crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmKJ, you willingly make up bogus "facts" to feed your need to troll Singer. YOU won't quit. You clearly are addicted to the troll. It's sad that you can't let it go.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJOr a very bitter old man, with none of that, no money, no home, a small, shriveled pecker he can't even get hard, mooching off his kids, angry about his life decisions, gambling addiction and where he has ended up in life.....with nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
I feel sorry for him, but am just sick of his shit of being a complete prick towards everyone because he fucked up and made bad decisions. If you are that miserable that you can only be a complete prick to everyone, just die already.
Here we have this shyster, Professor Slots, entering the picture. Not one peep out of you about him. I thought you went after clowns like that. That's what you said you do.
As for professor slots, you seem to be doing a fine job. Look, I am not on twitter, except for a brief time when I followed you when you were sick and recovering. Then I dropped twitter. It is a platform that doesn't interest me. Likewise, I don't see any of these youtube videos and these shysters pushing their scams unless someone posts them here. I am not the gambling internet police. I do have a fulltime career ya know. :rolleyes:
And the difference between twitter and youtube vs calling out bullshitters on these forums, is these are supposed to be gambling forums, providing legit gambling information and math. That was the actual mission statement for the forum when Shackleford launched WoV. So I strongly object to these people coming on a forum like that or even here and making claims that defy math. I believe AP's have a right and responsibility to call that out. I know other AP's, maybe including you, I don't know, may not share that view.
So look what calling out a few nut jobs has gotten me? My name and address has been posted on multiple forums and I am told it is circulation further by PM. That is what calling out a few trolls making math defying claims has cost me. As you know that kind of doxing is devasting for an advantage player and even more so for a blackjack type card counter. And you are telling me that I should go looking for more of that crap? Give me a break dude.
KJ, did the douche dawg dox you?
It's like this MisterV. There is a forum that Mdawg posts at. It is not really a gambling forum, but rather a forum for writer's writing "stories", which is What Mdawg really is. So there is a gambling section and for the most part Mdawg is the only poster in that section where he posts everyday, posting his "gambling "stories" and has started separate thread about 15-20 members of this forum and WoV that he doesn't like. Former member here Moses also occasionally posts their as Moses and Mdawg have bonded and seem to be working together.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
So on that forum, there was a brand new poster who in his first and only post, posted my name, street address, condo complex. It took contact from my attorney to get the owners to redact that information, but not until it had been up for a day.
So over at Gambling forums, where Moses posts multiple times a day (posting as Tater) and Mdawg now posts there as well, Moses has, I think 3 times now posted that same information. I am in a constant fight with the administrators there to remove the doxxing info. And the administrators (really one guy) wonders why no real players post there (because he allows doxxing).
So I can't definitively say whether the original doxing was Mdawg or Moses or probably the two working in cahoots. Moses knows where I live because he showed up at the building a couple years ago trying to get past security, after threatening to do just that on this very forum. THAT is why Dan Druff banned him from this forum.
My gut tells me it was Mdawg that made the first doxxing post and now Moses has repeated it 3 times.
Oh and I forgot to mention apparently somebody, one of these 2 lowlifes, or possible both together, is now circulation that info on several forums to select members by PM. Mdawg has bragged that my info is being circulated, so that is probably him. Not sure if he is using the Mdawg name or a sockpuppet account.
Obviously, even those of us who enjoy debunking far-fetched gambling tales can't evaluate and critique every YouTube nut. My personal rules are that I go after those flim flam artists who have made incursions into credible places. So I go after, first, those who get their stories on the six o'clock news or in USA Today. Next I try to debunk those posting on allegedly credible gambling sites.
How many times has Singer not posted for weeks at a time? What do you do during that time? You troll the shit out of him practically everyday. YOU can't let it go. You are addicted to it. There is only so much he is going to take then he's going to come back and fire back at you. You deserve the trolling you get from Singer because YOU can't give it a break. But I'm sure you will make some shit up to say it ain't so.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJAnd NOT a peep out of you when your buddy Singer continues to spew the nasty hate at me, mickey. So don't give me that crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmKJ, you willingly make up bogus "facts" to feed your need to troll Singer. YOU won't quit. You clearly are addicted to the troll. It's sad that you can't let it go.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Here we have this shyster, Professor Slots, entering the picture. Not one peep out of you about him. I thought you went after clowns like that. That's what you said you do.
You should have had better sense than to go after MDawg as hard as you did. You are as viscious as they get when you got it in for someone. You were fucking with someone that's a lawyer and knows how to obtain hard information from incomplete information. You told enough about yourself in these forums that it just wasn't hard for someone with his experience to trace you down. Your doxxing is your own fault.
You are wrong mickey. It is usually Singer that starts it up again. I am actually pretty satisfied and have been for for a while now, that Singer is completely debunked, mostly of his own doing. No one believes his crap. So for you, I will not mention him again, until he attacks me. Then I will fire back twice as hard....as per the mickeycrimm playbook. It is 11:56pm Dec 4, 2021. Let's just see who starts up first.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
You attacked him yesterday. He hasn't responded yet. Now you say if he attacks you back it will be him that is starting the shit? You're an idiot.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYou are wrong mickey. It is usually Singer that starts it up again. I am actually pretty satisfied and have been for for a while now, that Singer is completely debunked, mostly of his own doing. No one believes his crap. So for you, I will not mention him again, until he attacks me. Then I will fire back twice as hard....as per the mickeycrimm playbook. It is 11:56pm Dec 4, 2021. Let's just see who starts up first.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
No, YOU are an idiot. AND a hypocrite. YOU attacked him for years. And for good reason. Now you want to be like "Oh poor Rob. He is unfairly getting picked on". Bullshit! I have never been anything but respectful to you. Look what I get in return. Read your signature line. You drag me into your feud with Maxpen....every single time you post. Fuck you. If anybody is anybody's dicklicker and ass kisser, it is YOU being Singer's bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Manservant Mickey is back.
LOL! You can't help yourself. You are addicted to the troll. I didn't say anything about Singer getting "picked on." I was talking about how you look. Just trying to get you to see the light. But you're lost. You've lost all credibility. I was over there on GF last night reading MDawg, tater....and YOU. They wiped the floor with your ass but you keep coming back for more. Go ahead. It's your reputation you've ruined.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJNo, YOU are an idiot. AND a hypocrite. YOU attacked him for years. And for good reason. Now you want to be like "Oh poor Rob. He is unfairly getting picked on". Bullshit! I have never been anything but respectful to you. Look what I get in return. Read your signature line. You drag me into your feud with Maxpen....every single time you post. Fuck you. If anybody is anybody's dicklicker and ass kisser, it is YOU being Singer's bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Manservant and KJ's cocksucker, mcap is back.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
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Originally Posted by mcap
I guess I have a hard time with what some people define as "trolling." I had the same issue at WoV, so I looked up the definition. The definition is "to antagonize (others) online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments."
Now, being an old journalist, I see a real problem with that definition. The problem is that two, and perhaps all three, of the criteria listed (inflammatory, irrelevant, offensive) are not defined by the content of the post. Whether something is "inflammatory" or "offensive" can be defined by another party reading the post, therefore literally anything can be defined as "trolling" because the definition can be entirely subjective. It relies on the reaction of the person reading the information, rather than the denotative meaning of the information.
For example, I had a friend who was a cab driver. He drove in a college town, and students are notoriously poor tippers. It turned out that he was a favorite driver for black students, who were especially bad tippers. He posted a sign in his cab, "Don't be niggardly. Tip the driver." Well, as you can imagine, this was interpreted as meaning something it simply did not mean. Was he "trolling?" He used the word "niggardly" correctly to the letter, but how people interpreted it was on them. Similarly, a couple of lines ago, I used the phrase "black students" without capitalizing the "B" in black. Is that trolling because some will find it offensive? If so, all the word "trolling" does is allow anyone to be offended and to accuse people of "trolling" like it's a terrible thing.
So, for mickey, here's the question. If I matter-of-factly state that Singer posted photos of himself in a Newell at a dealership, that he said it was his, and that the RV dealer, if you call the place, will affirm that Singer was there doing that -- is that "trolling" by mickey's definition? It's absolute fact, it doesn't insult Singer, and it can be verified. If that is "trolling," then any fact that someone doesn't like or doesn't want repeated is "trolling." Literally anything can be "trolling."
So mickey, Singer posed in an RV that wasn't his, said it was, and presented a title with the same handwriting on every line. Is that "trolling" as you understand it?
I think this is a big cultural problem. People retreat to their own little online domes and claim every fact that they prefer to not be true is some kind of "trolling." I can no longer run a six minute mile. Did I just "troll" myself? It's inflammatory, because it suggests I'm out of shape. It's "offensive" if I want it to be. So I get to decide what it means. Obviously, anyone who says I can't run a six minute mile is "trolling" me. It's true, of course, but I guess that has nothing to do with whether it's "trolling" or not.
"Trolling" has become a pussified way to accuse someone of not sucking up to what you want them to believe.
What was he talking about in that quoted E-Mail? His site may not be more popular than WoO/WoV (and never will be), but I'm pretty confident comparing his Youtube channel to my articles will show that he's well more than 10x more popular than I (personally) am already.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmI'm already getting feedback. Several people have liked the article. One guy commented that Professor Slots probably makes more than slot AP's because of all the gullible people in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mission146That's awesome, thanks for the pop!Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Some people want to have delusions created/fed for them...delusion will always be more popular than cold, hard, facts. That's why religion does so well. In a few years, I'll still be right and he'll still (probably) be delusional...doesn't matter what his site does.
It sure does say a lot that he doesn't defend his methods, but rather goes straight to personal popularity.
More than that, I threw down my gauntlet at the end of the article:
With that, should he happen to read this and consider anything that I have said unfair, then I will accept a one hour Zoom meeting with him (I won’t even charge for my service) where he is free to offer a rebuttal to anything that I have said and we can have a debate as to the merits of his strategies.
My terms are that he can publish it on Youtube as long as the entire meeting is unedited and uncut. We will also follow a format by which we have roughly equal time to speak. On my side, I will post a follow-up article that includes a transcript of our conversation. He'll make money on the Youtube platform and I'll make money for writing the article.
Or, if he wants to go one on one without recording the conversation, I'll also entertain that. If he can prove, to my satisfaction, that anything I said was wrong---then I will follow-up and retract those parts in one way or another.
He can also go create a WoV account and engage me in the Forums or in the Comment section of that article.
Long story short, I'm not hard to find if he wishes to defend his assertions.
In response to KewlJ:
1.) Unlike MDawg, Professor Slots is directly selling something, namely his book, online course (or whatever the hell you would call it) and hourly one-on-ones for $297/hour. Also, in my opinion, he is targeting perhaps the most myth-oriented segment of gamblers out there---slot machine players.
2.) ProfessorSlots was brought to my attention in a thread started by OdiousGambit, so it's not really the sort of information that I would be seeking out to know that there was anything to even call out.
I mean, if we're going to discuss who should be called out and who shouldn't---at least in terms of priority, then I'm going to start with people who are directly profiting on selling myths to a segment of players already strongly inclined to believe in myths. When you have a gambling message board, then it's my opinion that it's important to call certain things out in terms of the math, but you have to be really careful about shutting down someone who is talking about gambling and reporting results because that's a slippery slope if you're going to sanction anyone for that. People can try to replicate MDawg's (reported) results if they want to, and probably to their own peril, but he's not selling any information that is purported to teach people how to beat Baccarat.
Anybody that watches any of the slot Youtubers on any regularity should've have some of 'ScammerSlots' videos show up in their feed.
I don't know how the dictionaries define 'trolling'. And that definition was probably pertaining to something different than what we are dealing with.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
In the gambling community / gambling forums, it has taken a different meaning. It is a person, usually a losing degenerate type player, that makes claims of long time winning that defy math, and reality. There just is no mathematical basis to these claims. Singer, Mdawg, Moses all meet this criteria having made claims that defy math and reality for YEARS. Moses to a little bit lesser degree, because it is not the math that his claims defy, but more so the reality of being able to play any meaningful stakes on a regular basis where he claims, Reno. Again, it is years of this magical winning play.
As time goes on, and people look into these trolls, the second thing that is always present is that their stories and claims change.
With Singer, his initial claim of winning millions over 10 years playing a progression system changes when he introduced the double up bug claim that he had read about.
Mdawg's claim was 7 months of winning nearly every session, every day and when someone had his actual records disproving this, all of the sudden he changed his claim to "about even over those 7 months"
Moses burst onto the scene (blackjack forums) declaring he was a 10 year professional blackjack player. When things came to light, he changed that to he has won about 100k over the last 10 years. !0k a year, while living off other money, does not a professional player make. But it does fit with what a low limit player, which is all you can do in Reno might make.
The third element that is present is the attacking and lying about anyone who challenges these claims bases on math or the fact that they defy the way reality works. These attacks are usually very, very personal, and often include family members who never participated on anything and include vicious lies. All three of those mentioned responded to a legitimate challenge of their claims by attacking my sexuality and family members, my brother, my mother and my partner both before and after he passed away. This Singer character has attacked spouses that have passed away of three.... three different members, myself included, and apparently attacked a colleague at that Gambling Today paper after he had passed. These people (trolls) will stoop to any level to advance their claims, which defy math. This my friends is what a troll is in the gambling community and on gambling forums.
Now mickeycrimm says, Mdawg and Moses have kicked my ass with their trolling and lying. He is probably right. Just as Singer got the better of mickey for years. The fact is that it is hard to fight lies. And on forums like VCT or gambling forums that are lightly moderated and have no boundaries, the liars and trolls have a huge advantage. These lies and personal attacks are almost always more sensational than the truth. All one can do is fight back responding with the truth and hope most people are see and figure out the truth and figure out what adds up and what doesn't.
Anyone who legitimately challenges these claims that can NOT be, pays a price in attacks and lies. Mdawg has started over 15 threads each bearing the name of someone from here or WoV that has challenged him or said anything that he perceives as unfavorable.
In the world of trolling, these guys that are willing to cross over the line of truth and decency have a huge advantage. But the truth matters and will always come out and the trolls and liars exposed, as it has with each of these three particular cases. That is when they alter their stories and get really nasty. THIS is how trolling in the gambling community and gambling forums works.