You just show your ignorance. So where is the link?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Stop being such a clown. Seriously.
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You just show your ignorance. So where is the link?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Stop being such a clown. Seriously.
For such a sharp guy who can handicap why didn't you play those fantasy sports sites when people were printing money ?!
This redietz person has been unable to get on a gambling podcast with respectable known people or actually ANY gambling podcast.
Instead he finds to podcast that is desperate for someone with some sort of "gangster" connection. NOTHING to do with gambling. lol
Did he run off when he knows he can't provide a link? How can a big time contest where only the best are invited NOT HAVE A WEBSITE !?!??!
It wouldn't need to be pretty or elaborate but if this thing is anything like Redietz represents it to be.. why not post the results?!?!
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
We'll see if he can come through. He has posted the link a dozen times but I can't find a link to it on Google!??!? None of this makes sense. Again if he comes through and I have egg on my face then sure. The fact is I did spend several minutes trying to find it. This idea I should spend more time is just lol redietz bullshit.
wise up people.
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Originally Posted by accountinquestionYou just show your ignorance. So where is the link?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Stop being such a clown. Seriously.
Here's a link to my worst finish in the last 20 years. I chose my worst finish as a favor to account. LOL.
https://www.playbooksports.com/wg04.pdf
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Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionYou just show your ignorance. So where is the link?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Stop being such a clown. Seriously.
Here's a link to my worst finish in the last 20 years. I chose my worst finish as a favor to account. LOL.
https://www.playbooksports.com/wg04.pdf
Thank you. Jesus it wasn't that hard. We're finally getting somewhere.
So are there other years?
I see 10k prize pool and 50 players. That is like an EV of $200.. maybe a bit more. Why would a professional sports bettor even fuck with that !?!?
Assuming it isn't rigged by some tout.
Well we'd need to see the other years to establish this is your worst year. Right? You're the greatest doubter of all outside of your own bubble bullshit so clearly you understand this.
Still where are the rules? Where is something that explains what this is that we're looking at. You have one PDF that is a list of names. Is there a buyin? Is it a total freeroll?
edit - ok found something else - https://www.playbooksports.com/2018WiseGuysReport16.pdf
Their website is in pretty bad shape but.. at least this explains what Redietz references to legitimize his expertise.
I don't mean to hijack, but the BJHoF is a joke...because of Max Rubin and where it is located. I have great respect for many members and have had the good fortune to communicate with a number of them on forums and privately, and one I consider a "friend" and seek his opinion and advise regularly. But Max who is a member himself, played these people by hosting the hall of fame. Each member has a picture on the wall and has signed an agreement not to play at Barona. So essentially, Max and Barona have accumulated a private database of top players all who have already signed a trespass agreement in exchange for some wall space. Very shrewd.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjbActually, Barona casino and Max Rubin DO.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Now most players in the BJHofF are no longer active player, so they haven't given up much. Of the few that are still active AP's, like Munchkin and Grosjean, they don't play much blackjack, especially via card counting. Tommy Hyland still actively runs teams, but I don't know how much he plays. But it isn't just that they have agreed to not play Barona. That information and a whole new set of pictures, makes its way to the current databases, so it is a loss/loss for any active player.
When a guy who was an AP card counters, comp hustler specialist, like a Max Rubin, starts working for a casino or the casino industry, he is a traitor in my mind. He becomes the enemy. I have never understood why Max Rubin has avoided that sentiment from the BJ community and fellow HofF members.
I don't know what it takes to be considered for the BJHoF now a days. I know and communicate with several players that have been at this decades and made millions of dollars. And no, I am not talking about myself. I am talking players that have made a very comfortable living for 30 years or more and although they rarely talk numbers have made millions. That doesn't seem to be anything special now a days. But anyone one of these still active players would be a fool to accept the 'honor" of being a BJ HofF member as long as they actively play.
And while on the subject, Norm Wattenberger who I have had some issues with over the years, should be inducted as a member of the BJHoF for his software alone, which as benefited a whole generation of card counters, ranging from recreational to professional, myself among them. I am told Norm has not been considered for personal conflicts and feelings with other members. That kind of "politics" is bullshit.
Back to the sports betting "chat".
Here is another etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionQuote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Here's a link to my worst finish in the last 20 years. I chose my worst finish as a favor to account. LOL.
https://www.playbooksports.com/wg04.pdf
Thank you. Jesus it wasn't that hard. We're finally getting somewhere.
So are there other years?
I see 10k prize pool and 50 players. That is like an EV of $200.. maybe a bit more. Why would a professional sports bettor even fuck with that !?!?
Assuming it isn't rigged by some tout.
Well we'd need to see the other years to establish this is your worst year. Right? You're the greatest doubter of all outside of your own bubble bullshit so clearly you understand this.
Still where are the rules? Where is something that explains what this is that we're looking at. You have one PDF that is a list of names. Is there a buyin? Is it a total freeroll?
edit - ok found something else - https://www.playbooksports.com/2018WiseGuysReport16.pdf
Their website is in pretty bad shape but.. at least this explains what Redietz references to legitimize his expertise.
https://www.playbooksports.com/2018WiseGuysReport18.pdf
Here is another one I managed to find. I have to increment the number suffix manually to find these hidden files but if one has to use advanced techniques to exploit this website to find the results then so be it.
https://www.playbooksports.com/2017WiseGuysReport18.pdf
And this one he gets third.
Ok, respectable results in whatever it is we're looking at. I can give you that Redietz.
I still don't get how professional successful sports bettors would ever mess around with such a thing. Is it a freeroll ? This one doesn't have the prize pool on the pdf.
btw only way I can find this stuff is by googling site: playbooksports.com "wise guys" It must be big time.
Redietz, the reason you always get 5th place or better is because your name STARTS WITH A B so it is always at the top ! lol
18 weeks of going through a list of spreads to find the best value .. all for $200 of EV. No wonder he mocks the concept. lol You could make a better hourly working in a factory somewhere.
edit - I'm too lazy to look at this further. So results are out there. If you want to look through them to calculate Bob's results then feel free. At least he can't go on about me being lazy. I'm still not convinced this really demonstrates much of anything. It seems largely irrelevant but there are some truths to his story.
UNKewLyingJ continues to spout things that he heard or read about, when in reality he's just an occasional red to green blackjack player, some low end video poker.
Seedvalue on the UNKewl one: You don’t make a living playing blackjack tho. That the problem I have with you. Instead of just coming clean and saying you have sugar daddies some that like you others you have extorted you keep up the charade.
I am not a fan of this Petey Macdouche person, but the question he raises is something everyone on these forums should be asking. It seems at this point all that is left for the "great adventure" writer is to obsessively troll me in some kind of vengeful act.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petey Macdouche, post: 164258, member: 2068
Petey Macdouche is yet another UNKewlJ sock puppet. Note that whenever UNKewlJ starts speaking vaguely, such as about how he is "is not a fan of this sock puppet" or, for example with the recent KJ sock puppet at WOV, about how he is interested only in some of what the sock puppet posted, it means that he is guilty. When he lies, he is rarely able to look us in the eye and say "I didn't do that" - instead, he dissembles, at length, about reasons why he could not have (versus did not) do something.
Over at GF punkcity has documented some other KewlJ socks too.
And here at VCT UNKewLyingJ has created some others too, which is why in my poll where everyone had to identity himself, it was almost ten to one against the J, while in the other poll where people could vote anonymously, some UNKewl socks came out of the woodwork.
monet on the UNKewl one: Nothing you post is 100% true.
From faking your own death to using multiple sockpuppets.
Like Coach said... you are constantly lying to the forums and you have admitted to it time and time again
This UNKewl lying started long ago. Just look back to posts at WOV and other forums where KewlJ / KewlJason posted over 5 years ago, and you will find multiple forum members talking about how KJ is known for lying and has low credibility.
You people, like blackhole, punkcity (what a nut that guy is) and now Mdawg are absolutely delusional with this sock puppet crap. You are so obsessed you have become paranoid and think every new member or member that doesn't post much, is a sock puppet.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
This Petey McDouche character, who I have never much cared for or been a fan of has like 2 dozen posts. I read through them today. About half are attacking me for god sakes.
More importantly both here at VCT and at Gambling forums there is a process for sockpuppet accusations in which management will confirm or deny. The fact is I have never used a sock puppet either here or at VCT. I want credit or responsibility for whatever I post, good or bad. The only places I have used a sock puppet a couple times were WoV and Norm's forum and that was to warn players about a casino cheating. At Wov, I have used a couple sock puppets to chime in on something I would have liked to have said as kewlJ, but couldn't, but in every case, I use a handle like Kewlj2, kewlj3 or FlyEaglesFly, going out of my way to make sure people know who it is. The purpose of a sockpuppet is to deceive (often creating an imaginary person for credibility purposes). I have never tried to deceive anyone with my kewlj2, kewl3, flyEaglesFly sockpuppets. Or even as spiderman where I warned of casino cheating. I immediately made it known who I was.
So you are just out the window with this sock puppet crap. If you really think that, ask the forum administrators at each site and they will affirm that your paranoid suspicions aren't me.
By the way, not exactly a sock puppet, but pretty much the same thing.....Mdawg is not your first go around. You were previously on WoV and other forums using other handles. :rolleyes: Glass house and stones and all that stuff.
But really, none of this even matters. It is all deflection. The one question which this nut guy Petey MacDouche asked today and I have been asking for a while now, and several others, like MrV have also asked is: does it make any sense at all, that a wealthy dude, born into a wealthy family, who now claims to have won multiple millions of dollar from the casinos on top of that, spends ALL his time obsessing over me, a mid-level advantage player?
Does that make any sense to anyone? :confused:
And dude, if you really think I am even a lower stakes player than I claim, you would be wrong, but that makes even less sense.
Saying it makes "no sense" is me being polite. It really exposes you and you don't even seem to realize it. :rolleyes: No freaking higher end player claiming what you claim would waste a minute on this shit, let alone every waking minute that you do.
I'm not sure what having money has to do with your forum posting behavior unless you believe they are self-made at which point you might expect them to be spending their time doing something productive.
Kewl you have posted so much bullshit that is infinitely less likely it makes this whole exchange laughable.
Mdawg has actually posted pictures where you always come up with silly excuse. Come'on man.
Exist in reality.
Ever since UNKewLyingJ was outed as a compulsive liar, he's given up on trying to retain any credibility, other than with weak repetitive "Woe is Me" and "There must be something wrong with anyone who comes after me for lying" nonsense. This upward shift in the level of UNKewlJ deviousness is why for some time now he's been using sock puppets without later admitting that they were his. As far as the lying, his pattern since the beginning has been to deny. Finally recently he was caught dead to rights and admitted that series of ongoing lies he made for a few months.
I doubt he will ever deviate from this pattern of continuing lying, admitting only if cornered.
No one here is saying anything we don't already know, and the bottom line remains, as MaxPen has said, You can't get to the truth with a fraud, but when some of us keep after UNKewLyingJ the same way he has kept after his nonstop Lying at Length, he cries wolf, after having bit off more than he could chew.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
The main reason I keep up with the pressure on this high pitched whiner, is as an exercise in analysis of his persona. You have to admit, besides being fun and games, it's fascinating to encounter such a lost soul who tries so hard to stick to the same lying script, and doesn't give up even after repeated failures to convince people of whatever it is he's trying to convince people of. Yes there are a lot of liars out there, but one who keeps at it, pretending (or maybe even believing?) that he's making headway, is more rare.
https://i.imgur.com/lckS3wYh.jpg
Mdawg has posted picture that prove he has or come from money. I don't know that anyone has ever disputed that. I think both Axelwolf and Dan Druff has suggested that it probably isn't as wealthy as he wants people to believe, but I honestly don't care about that. It makes no difference to me if he is the king of England (or Egypt) or a long-lost member of the Kennedy clan.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
All I care about is some of his gambling statements and claim, which were not true, defied the math, defied the way Las Vegas and the casino industry works. It makes no difference to me if he is a Forbes top 100 billionaire or a homeless person making those claims. I challenge those claims based on their merit.
Once I got to these kind of troll forums, like here and GF, the common practice, is for when these guys get challenged on merit, to attack the person challenging. THAT is simply a deflection and probably where I went wrong. I was probably a little too thin-skinned because what these kind of people think and say, really shouldn't have mattered. If you really stop and think about it attacking someone legitimately challenging your claims, only confirms that they are correct. So I allowed these trolls and nut cases like Singer, Mdawg to draw me into their game.
LOL. Jesus Christ.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionHere is another etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionQuote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Thank you. Jesus it wasn't that hard. We're finally getting somewhere.
So are there other years?
I see 10k prize pool and 50 players. That is like an EV of $200.. maybe a bit more. Why would a professional sports bettor even fuck with that !?!?
Assuming it isn't rigged by some tout.
Well we'd need to see the other years to establish this is your worst year. Right? You're the greatest doubter of all outside of your own bubble bullshit so clearly you understand this.
Still where are the rules? Where is something that explains what this is that we're looking at. You have one PDF that is a list of names. Is there a buyin? Is it a total freeroll?
edit - ok found something else - https://www.playbooksports.com/2018WiseGuysReport16.pdf
Their website is in pretty bad shape but.. at least this explains what Redietz references to legitimize his expertise.
https://www.playbooksports.com/2018WiseGuysReport18.pdf
Here is another one I managed to find. I have to increment the number suffix manually to find these hidden files but if one has to use advanced techniques to exploit this website to find the results then so be it.
https://www.playbooksports.com/2017WiseGuysReport18.pdf
And this one he gets third.
Ok, respectable results in whatever it is we're looking at. I can give you that Redietz.
I still don't get how professional successful sports bettors would ever mess around with such a thing. Is it a freeroll ? This one doesn't have the prize pool on the pdf.
btw only way I can find this stuff is by googling site: playbooksports.com "wise guys" It must be big time.
Redietz, the reason you always get 5th place or better is because your name STARTS WITH A B so it is always at the top ! lol
18 weeks of going through a list of spreads to find the best value .. all for $200 of EV. No wonder he mocks the concept. lol You could make a better hourly working in a factory somewhere.
edit - I'm too lazy to look at this further. So results are out there. If you want to look through them to calculate Bob's results then feel free. At least he can't go on about me being lazy. I'm still not convinced this really demonstrates much of anything. It seems largely irrelevant but there are some truths to his story.
You don't get it at all, which isn't surprising. The Wise Guys Contest is like a somewhat lower level Blackjack Ball. It ain't about who's going home with a couple bucks. It's about who outperformed the best in the business and is recognized for doing so.
The original version of the Wise Guys Contest was so named because you had to put your plays in for the following week BEFORE the Stardust posted numbers for that next week. In other words, you had to be a "Wise Guy." There's a long history, as you can read in the 1972 Larry Merchant's "The National Football Lottery" of heavy hitters betting each other on the next week's games before any lines had come out. People would invent lines of their own and see who would bet how much at what line.
And you thought The Wise Guys was about prize money? I mean, c'mon, how stupid are you? I made more money winning that free TopBet NFL contest last year than I'd win in The Wise Guys.
Oh wait, I didn't mention how much I won in TopBet. So you presumed the "display of skill" line meant I won nothing because I said it was a skill display. Holy hell, you are a maroon. You never even looked up how much the TopBet contest winner gets, did you? That's what I mean by opining while lazy.
Here's a thought, account. Know something about something before you opine on it. I know -- radical advice, right?
How can you be such an absolute doofus and slather your posts on the world?
And you decided there's something to it, meaning the Wise Guys? LOL. Every single post I've made on forums regarding sports betting has been factual. Virtually all of them are verifiable. And I'm using my real name.
Good to know, regarding The Wise Guys, that you think "there's something to it." Maybe tomorrow you can bless us with your take on cancer, UFOs, and AI.
Mdawg, the level of the people you frequently quote and align yourself with is most telling. You aren't doing yourself any favors.
Singer, blackhole, punkcity over at Gambling forums....:D The administrator at GF. :D
Maybe you are not familiar with the history of Gambling Forums. The forum began with the administrator labeling many known and respected players in the gambling community as "founding members", when the fact is most of those founding members never even signed up, nor posted there.
The second thing Gambling forums did was start threads with discussion lifted from other forums, making it look like the discussion were taking place at GF. In the blackjack section, most of the discussion were "lifted" from Norm's blackjack forum. Norm complained and rightfully so, did his usual threaten to sue and eventually Gambling forums inserted some kind of small disclaimer. But only after Norm repeatedly raised hell. Initially they "lifted" entire discussions making it look as if they took place at Gambling forums. So that forum was born out of complete dishonesty and deception.
But despite that beginning, somehow in the mid 2010's, there were a significant number of legitimate, real AP's participating there, myself, mickeycrimm, axelwolf, Jbjb, RS_ (not to be confused with Rob Singer), and a number of others I am forgetting. And then things blew up. I forget exactly what occurred, but it was some accusation involving the owner. Something about how he had used information obtained as owner/administrator of a website (he run many websites) to then stalk a female from the website in Florida. Maybe mickey or someone remembers the details. I don't remember or even know what was true or not, but I know it concerned enough of us that there was a mass Exodus among the real AP crowd.
So that is who you are aligning yourself with in this case. :cool:
Just trying to make headway through his tortured posts, is hard - but the gist is that he doesn't know quite how to respond to that he's been outed and lost all credibility, so he comes back with some nonsense about how people attack the UNKewl one to try to make themselves seem more credible. Back of all this though, is that he's been lying since Day One - about everything - and finally was forced to cop to at least some of his lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
Posts regarding the hypocritical UNKewLyingJ that date back to before I even started posted on any of these forums, include, in addition to Norm's and many others:
Here, about how KJ is not just a liar, but a hypocritical one who claims that he'd never make personal attacks (sound familiar? ;)):
James40 on KJ: This whiny snowflake attention whore doesn’t get what he feels is the appropriate attention from me and gets his feelings hurt…
“And people well mostly James40, mocked me, so now I share those updates in private when people ask. I still am having trouble with that. Mocking someone over their recovery from open heart surgery. I know the world's changing, going to hell, but, I don't know.... ”
The whiny bitch goes on...
“I mean look at James40's opening post to this thread where he says "no health updates?". I am recovering from open heart surgery and he mocks me and my recovery from such a major health crisis. That is about the lowest thing I can think of. I don't know that I have ever been a part of anything that low, anywhere. But that's what vegas casino talk is I guess.”
Never been part of anything that low. What bullshit…
Here’s his quotes to a guy that says he’s dying of cancer…
“Where is blackhole? hopefully he kicked. ”
The asshole adds a smiley face….
Then the prick adds to the same cancer victim…
“Fuck you asshole. Die already!”.
Never been part of anything that low? You can tell a cancer victim to die and I’m mocking you by not buying your fucking attention whoring posts? Fuck you, lying prick.
BillRyan on KJ: On Smith's site, there were a number of people who admired his ability to weave a story but his credibility was questioned and then shot when he faked his death for reasons that were never clear.
Fool me once, and all of that. I remember a series of private messages I had with the man who came to the board to tell us of his death. Of course it turned out that I was talking to KJ himself. Sad, when I think about it.
I mean who does that - not just fakes his own death but then appears via sock puppet pretending to be the messenger. That's a twisted person for sure, how did someone like that even get away with having a handful of people believing anything he had to say?
Yet you just said this ..Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJMdawg has posted picture that prove he has or come from money. I don't know that anyone has ever disputed that. I think both Axelwolf and Dan Druff has suggested that it probably isn't as wealthy as he wants people to believe, but I honestly don't care about that. It makes no difference to me if he is the kind of England (or Egypt) or a long-lost member of the Kennedy clan.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Anyway this speaks for itself.Quote:
The one question which this nut guy Petey MacDouche asked today and I have been asking for a while now, and several others, like MrV have also asked is: does it make any sense at all, that a wealthy dude, born into a wealthy family, who now claims to have won multiple millions of dollar from the casinos on top of that, spends ALL his time obsessing over me, a mid-level advantage player?
Please start existing in reality.
... and get help ...
Imagine if this guy Mdawg was an attorney and he billed himself attorney rates for all the time he spends searching through forums, up to 10 years ago, looking for something he can use in his ongoing trolling of me. :D
Mdawg rather than this obsessive ongoing attempt to discredit me, how about we get back to you (1) spreading $100-$5000, (2) playing double deck, (3) at a strip property, (4) for 10 straight hours (5) while winning $60,000. tell us some more about how the very pit critters that would have lost their jobs for allowing any player to do this, simply patted you on the back and told you how great you are. 5 huge whoppers in one single claim. :rolleyes:
But before that another question: during this July, the hottest month since I have been in Vegas, what does the electric bill run for cooling the "mid 7 figure mansion" that you claim you purchased in Las Vegas several years ago. :D
Yeah, you have credibility coming out the ass, Mdawg. You are giving Singer a run for his "prop" money. :D
Besides that many have pointed out that RobSinger would be much more fun at a party than UNKewlJ, let's advise the LyingJ to take two of those nickels he has left to rub together and buy himself a personality.
I have to laugh at--and not feel sorry for--kew. :)
His WORST NIGHTMARE SCENARIO has come true. And his new strategy is to continue making rambling, incomprehensible posts that blame anyone and everyone for his self-inflicted woes.
And he deserves every single bit of the humiliation that comes with it!
Good riddance kew. Take the hint.
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Saying you think someone is dumb 10 times in a post doesn't make it any more true.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzLOL. Jesus Christ.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionHere is another etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
https://www.playbooksports.com/2018WiseGuysReport18.pdf
Here is another one I managed to find. I have to increment the number suffix manually to find these hidden files but if one has to use advanced techniques to exploit this website to find the results then so be it.
https://www.playbooksports.com/2017WiseGuysReport18.pdf
And this one he gets third.
Ok, respectable results in whatever it is we're looking at. I can give you that Redietz.
I still don't get how professional successful sports bettors would ever mess around with such a thing. Is it a freeroll ? This one doesn't have the prize pool on the pdf.
btw only way I can find this stuff is by googling site: playbooksports.com "wise guys" It must be big time.
Redietz, the reason you always get 5th place or better is because your name STARTS WITH A B so it is always at the top ! lol
18 weeks of going through a list of spreads to find the best value .. all for $200 of EV. No wonder he mocks the concept. lol You could make a better hourly working in a factory somewhere.
edit - I'm too lazy to look at this further. So results are out there. If you want to look through them to calculate Bob's results then feel free. At least he can't go on about me being lazy. I'm still not convinced this really demonstrates much of anything. It seems largely irrelevant but there are some truths to his story.
You don't get it at all, which isn't surprising. The Wise Guys Contest is like a somewhat lower level Blackjack Ball. It ain't about who's going home with a couple bucks. It's about who outperformed the best in the business and is recognized for doing so.
The original version of the Wise Guys Contest was so named because you had to put your plays in for the following week BEFORE the Stardust posted numbers for that next week. In other words, you had to be a "Wise Guy." There's a long history, as you can read in the 1972 Larry Merchant's "The National Football Lottery" of heavy hitters betting each other on the next week's games before any lines had come out. People would invent lines of their own and see who would bet how much at what line.
And you thought The Wise Guys was about prize money? I mean, c'mon, how stupid are you? I made more money winning that free TopBet NFL contest last year than I'd win in The Wise Guys.
Oh wait, I didn't mention how much I won in TopBet. So you presumed the "display of skill" line meant I won nothing because I said it was a skill display. Holy hell, you are a maroon. You never even looked up how much the TopBet contest winner gets, did you? That's what I mean by opining while lazy.
Here's a thought, account. Know something about something before you opine on it. I know -- radical advice, right?
How can you be such an absolute doofus and slather your posts on the world?
And you decided there's something to it, meaning the Wise Guys? LOL. Every single post I've made on forums regarding sports betting has been factual. Virtually all of them are verifiable. And I'm using my real name.
Good to know, regarding The Wise Guys, that you think "there's something to it." Maybe tomorrow you can bless us with your take on cancer, UFOs, and AI.
This shit is like poker tournaments. The best players don't mess with it. Taxes, variance, bad hourly, travel expennses, what have you. Yet there is this subculture of poker players who worship this idea of 'winning a bracelet" and often they're not particularly good poker players.. You're the sports betting world's version of those guys.
I'm not sure why you think anyone would give enough of a shit about the wise guy tournament to know what it even is outside of your little world of sports picking tournament superstars. I'd argue that one is MORE stupid to even know wtf you are talking about. A total waste of time. Are all those guys invited touts?
I've known quite a few guys who bet sports. Some quite sharp. I can only recall one of them ever talking about tournaments and it was a couple of years ago some circa tournament.
For Christ's sake I still never found a webpage about it. LOL. SOME CONTEST.
Digging through website directories to find PDFs. At least someone put forth the effort for the pdfs. Wonder why.. oh could they be advertising their tout service ? Why yes !
Funny how you paint this whole thing.
I'm telling you real sharp guys are not going to fucking mess with your stupid tournament. They're only interested in the money. Anyway.. this is pointless. You play tournaments and have won some over your lifetime. Great.
"there is something to it" means that "yes it actually exists". I wouldn't hold up that observation as something to be proud of.
TP - If you read the forum chronologically you would see my question was after the single link Redietz posted to the results of one contest. There were no rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
There is no index of the years or anything like that. You have to use obscure google search engine stuff to find the results.
In the links I posted after my question - the rules are listed.
I appreciate your effort though. Thank you.
Anyway, later on after I did that the rules are clearly in one of the pdfs but they still don't say how the people are selected for the invitations but I don't think it particularly matters.
I was just interested in how such an important contest with only the best doesn't have some sort of real web presence.
The whole thing is lolz. Just like Redietz stuck on EV because he has been fixated on contests going back decades. God he must be insufferable in person but we're not going to repeat that crap.
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Originally Posted by MDawg
This sums up why I like Singer to the degree I do.
From looking at that 2014 result from "the best handicappers in the business" I would have to say there's a lot of losers in the Wise Guys. If they bet those picks in the book, and remember it's their very best two picks each week, then most of them lost money. About half the field couldn't win 18 out of 36. But you have to win 20 out of 36 to make money. Over 60% of the field couldn't win 20 picks.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
I could hang the spreadsheet on a dart board and throw darts at it to make my picks and do just as well.
Here comes a long wind-up about how you have no clue, no idea, not even the slightest understanding of the vastness of your incomprehension! You're so wrong it's impossible to put into words!
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimmFrom looking at that 2014 result from "the best handicappers in the business" I would have to say there's a lot of losers in the Wise Guys. If they bet those picks in the book, and remember it's their very best two picks each week, then most of them lost money. About half the field couldn't win 18 out of 36. But you have to win 20 out of 36 to make money. Over 60% of the field couldn't win 20 picks.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
I could hang the spreadsheet on a dart board and throw darts at it to make my picks and do just as well.
LOL. Mickey with the in-depth analysis.
You are out of your league, my friend. The bulk of the games played in this contest are always NFL. That's partly because two weeks of college football get burned away due to the contest beginning the first week of NFL. And college ends first week in December, leaving many weeks of either NFL or bowl games with half the best players sitting out.
So the key questions, which mickey failed to address (as per usual, even though he's a master jack-of-all-trades AP with opinions on things he knows nothing about) are:
1) Was 2014 different from most years? Well, one could look up the sports book managers bulk records in Gaming Today for that year (GT sponsored an annual contest) and check, or one could tally up the SuperContest bulk results for 2014 and compare that, too.
2) Here's a little tidbit -- college football can be beaten. College hoops can be beaten. Everything else -- questionable. There are NO collections of handicappers who cumulatively, year-in and year-out, conquer NFL sides at anything above 54%. It doesn't happen. I think it was 2016, I tied for third in The Wise Guys. Well, I was 18-2 ATS for the first 10 weeks of college football. Then college football ended. I had to handicap the NFL. Brutal. About 85% of my annual wagering is on college football, so that tells you where my priorities are.
3) Therefore, you are never going to find some brilliant cumulative NFL record. Some years are easier than others -- if you check up on the GT sports book manager contest results, you will see that certain seasons the managers have good ATS records. Other seasons, they are cumulatively off the mark. The tendency is for them to correlate with each other.
But this is all obvious Sports Betting 101 stuff. Everybody knows this. Well, almost everybody.
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Would mickey's dart throws beat the ditz's picks in a head-to-head 2023 Wise Guys format contest?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I think yes, mickey's dart picks would.
If mickey can't commit to throw the darts each week, I'll do it.
My mommy told me that I'm smarter than anybody from Chamberpot PA,
and that I'm in the top 1% of dart players.
Pick'em 18 coin-flips contests. There is so much luck involved that.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Would mickey's dart throws beat the ditz's picks in a head-to-head 2023 Wise Guys format contest?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I think yes, mickey's dart picks would.
If mickey can't commit to throw the darts each week, I'll do it.
My mommy told me that I'm smarter than anybody from Chamberpot PA,
and that I'm in the top 1% of dart players.
LOL all this talk of skill.
This has to all be a big joke. Redietz must be yankin our chain.
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Originally Posted by accountinquestionPick'em 18 coin-flips contests. There is so much luck involved that.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
Would mickey's dart throws beat the ditz's picks in a head-to-head 2023 Wise Guys format contest?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I think yes, mickey's dart picks would.
If mickey can't commit to throw the darts each week, I'll do it.
My mommy told me that I'm smarter than anybody from Chamberpot PA,
and that I'm in the top 1% of dart players.
LOL all this talk of skill.
This has to all be a big joke. Redietz must be yankin our chain.
Football games are not coin flips. Now I would think someone who took a few probability courses might figure that out. Mathematically and logically, that's just flat out incorrect.
As far as skill goes, one might think that outperforming 1300 other people in picking NFL outright winners for every game played for an entire season -- just maybe, possibly, perhaps be a display of skill. I referred to it as such.
Account thinks not. He is, of course, an expert regarding such things.
You think every coin is 50.0000000000% on each side? Come'on man. Using your own fucking argument I can demonstrate you're an ass. It is a stupid argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionPick'em 18 coin-flips contests. There is so much luck involved that.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
LOL all this talk of skill.
This has to all be a big joke. Redietz must be yankin our chain.
Football games are not coin flips. Now I would think someone who took a few probability courses might figure that out. Mathematically and logically, that's just flat out incorrect.
As far as skill goes, one might think that outperforming 1300 other people in picking NFL outright winners for every game played for an entire season -- just maybe, possibly, perhaps be a display of skill. I referred to it as such.
Account thinks not. He is, of course, an expert regarding such things.
I'm an expert in a lot of shit. Deal with it.
ALTHOUGH I've never played a coin-flip tournament so maybe not.
I'm reading this thread and the only thing I'm wondering is if Redietz has paid that property tax bill yet. :D
You do realize that the lines you're betting on are what matters as far as sports being "beatable" for actual wagering and not contesting playing? You live in a different world than professional sports bettors and that is another thing you don't seem to grasp.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmFrom looking at that 2014 result from "the best handicappers in the business" I would have to say there's a lot of losers in the Wise Guys. If they bet those picks in the book, and remember it's their very best two picks each week, then most of them lost money. About half the field couldn't win 18 out of 36. But you have to win 20 out of 36 to make money. Over 60% of the field couldn't win 20 picks.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
I could hang the spreadsheet on a dart board and throw darts at it to make my picks and do just as well.
LOL. Mickey with the in-depth analysis.
You are out of your league, my friend. The bulk of the games played in this contest are always NFL. That's partly because two weeks of college football get burned away due to the contest beginning the first week of NFL. And college ends first week in December, leaving many weeks of either NFL or bowl games with half the best players sitting out.
So the key questions, which mickey failed to address (as per usual, even though he's a master jack-of-all-trades AP with opinions on things he knows nothing about) are:
1) Was 2014 different from most years? Well, one could look up the sports book managers bulk records in Gaming Today for that year (GT sponsored an annual contest) and check, or one could tally up the SuperContest bulk results for 2014 and compare that, too.
2) Here's a little tidbit -- college football can be beaten. College hoops can be beaten. Everything else -- questionable. There are NO collections of handicappers who cumulatively, year-in and year-out, conquer NFL sides at anything above 54%. It doesn't happen. I think it was 2016, I tied for third in The Wise Guys. Well, I was 18-2 ATS for the first 10 weeks of college football. Then college football ended. I had to handicap the NFL. Brutal. About 85% of my annual wagering is on college football, so that tells you where my priorities are.
3) Therefore, you are never going to find some brilliant cumulative NFL record. Some years are easier than others -- if you check up on the GT sports book manager contest results, you will see that certain seasons the managers have good ATS records. Other seasons, they are cumulatively off the mark. The tendency is for them to correlate with each other.
But this is all obvious Sports Betting 101 stuff. Everybody knows this. Well, almost everybody.
You can beat any sport if you find weak enough lines. If lines are too efficient then yes you can't beat it. It is not the sport itself that makes it unbeatable.
This stuff ain't that hard bro.
"Some years are easier than others." -> Some years you are lucky some you aren't. I'd say that is the translation but I don't think Redietz gets this either. He is just making excuses that are based on skill and not luck.
This place should have its own NFL tournament. We'd need an escrow agent and that would have to be Druff. He probably has most respect as far as not doxxing anyone. I'd take Dietz on. I'm sure I'd smoke him.
LOL! Smurgerburger has you pegged.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmFrom looking at that 2014 result from "the best handicappers in the business" I would have to say there's a lot of losers in the Wise Guys. If they bet those picks in the book, and remember it's their very best two picks each week, then most of them lost money. About half the field couldn't win 18 out of 36. But you have to win 20 out of 36 to make money. Over 60% of the field couldn't win 20 picks.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
I could hang the spreadsheet on a dart board and throw darts at it to make my picks and do just as well.
LOL. Mickey with the in-depth analysis.
You are out of your league, my friend. The bulk of the games played in this contest are always NFL. That's partly because two weeks of college football get burned away due to the contest beginning the first week of NFL. And college ends first week in December, leaving many weeks of either NFL or bowl games with half the best players sitting out.
So the key questions, which mickey failed to address (as per usual, even though he's a master jack-of-all-trades AP with opinions on things he knows nothing about) are:
1) Was 2014 different from most years? Well, one could look up the sports book managers bulk records in Gaming Today for that year (GT sponsored an annual contest) and check, or one could tally up the SuperContest bulk results for 2014 and compare that, too.
2) Here's a little tidbit -- college football can be beaten. College hoops can be beaten. Everything else -- questionable. There are NO collections of handicappers who cumulatively, year-in and year-out, conquer NFL sides at anything above 54%. It doesn't happen. I think it was 2016, I tied for third in The Wise Guys. Well, I was 18-2 ATS for the first 10 weeks of college football. Then college football ended. I had to handicap the NFL. Brutal. About 85% of my annual wagering is on college football, so that tells you where my priorities are.
3) Therefore, you are never going to find some brilliant cumulative NFL record. Some years are easier than others -- if you check up on the GT sports book manager contest results, you will see that certain seasons the managers have good ATS records. Other seasons, they are cumulatively off the mark. The tendency is for them to correlate with each other.
But this is all obvious Sports Betting 101 stuff. Everybody knows this. Well, almost everybody.
If you can make excuses for the losers then the winners can be excused for just getting lucky, right?. Dart throws.
Gambling, however, is a glorified version of so-called democracy, or the "art of politics", by which people put themselves into chicken coops, work ten times harder, their entire lives (only to wonder why at the end), than work, on and off never giving a shit, in a dictatorship, by which it's immediately obvious where you stand. No wonder that the gamblers, whichever, can't let go of the far-fetched, silly notion that they are the "cream of the crop". Look, it's no different from any other pursuit. You either make a little, or a lot. But, the ones who made a lot couldn't have done so, legitimately. In the case of gambling, it's no surprise that most of the ones who made a lot didn't do so by gambling per se, went on to lose it all by insider trading, and, that the very lucky few, rightly explained away by luck, went on to make even a hundred million. For the relatively tiny bit of money earned by the supposed multitude of card-counters, and the like, there were the many recreational (misnomer) slot players, lottery players, and the like, to pull out some truly life-changing jackpots. Another reason that literally no one, let alone the academics, gave, or will give, much of a crap about the gambling forums, and the people on them. Yeah, a few academics did collect their own (illegitimate) "healthy fees", from the billion-dollar casinos, to extensively study how to build even better so-called democracies. But, that's about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwPS19swwiA
After trying to figure out what crazy guy is trying to get across I realize my time has completely been wasted again. No one gives a crap about this forum except for this nut who still posts here. Him and Kewl pretty much in their own world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gottlob1
Anyway back to what I wanted to post. If Redietz wants to put his money where his mouth is then I am more than willing. Not that much just 1k - lets keep it friendly sorta deal. I'll let Redietz give the specifics but all I ask is that the lines we choose against are posted a considerable time before game day. If Redietz wants more picks or pick a winner ATS from every game I am willing to do it. Not really worth my time but neither is our incessant back and forth. So LOL it'd be fun. Surely with all his shit talking he should be happy to take on one of us moron APs.
Good NFL result: that's why I keep getting invited back for Wise Guy's contestsQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Bad NFL result:No one can beat the NFL
I don't know about all of this, but I do know that Tim Ho Wan (PALMS CASINO) is the best Dim Sum I ever ate, and I don't even like Dim Sum!Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplayGood NFL result: that's why I keep getting invited back for Wise Guy's contestsQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Bad NFL result:No one can beat the NFL
Damn that was good!
I take care of my posts, and, let the forum take care of itself. Definetly not the one always writing about the forum per se. You and Ozzy pretty much have that market cornered. Ozzy in the passive sense, but, you in the actively perturbed sense, I guess, as some sort of friend of Druff, Druff.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Insofar as being the "crazy guy", well, it's you who haven't shown any sign of real, in theory, or actual, in practice, intelligence, and, so, you try to pooh-pooh what you simply can't understand. Certainly, lack of true iq was never any excuse to force one's idiotic self on others. By the way, wait another couple of weeks for the ultimate evidence of thus from me. By then, you might just finally realize that the forums had some gainfully neat influence on my work. Some value, after all, despite all the jerk-offs just like you.
You're clearly a total nut who should be discounted. I wouldn't bother but here you are on this forum of gambling trying to convince gamblers of something. Why? And what? Oh don't answer, Nutball supreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gottlob1I take care of my posts, and, let the forum take care of itself. Definetly not the one always writing about the forum per se. You and Ozzy pretty much have that market cornered. Ozzy in the passive sense, but, you in the actively perturbed sense, I guess, as some sort of friend of Druff, Druff.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Insofar as being the "crazy guy", well, it's you who haven't shown any sign of real, in theory, or actual, in practice, intelligence, and, so, you try to pooh-pooh what you simply can't understand. Certainly, lack of true iq was never any excuse to force one's idiotic self on others. By the way, wait another couple of weeks for the ultimate evidence of thus from me. By then, you might just finally realize that the forums had some gainfully neat influence on my work. Some value, after all, despite all the jerk-offs just like you.
Yet here you are and more or less seemingly posting to yourself repeatedly. Make sure you stay on your pill regimen, Bill.Quote:
Another reason that literally no one, let alone the academics, gave, or will give, much of a crap about the gambling forums, and the people on them.
Anyway this is just mucking up this forum talking to the equivalent of the homeless guy running around the Subway looking for $.50.
Back on topic - I am going to assume Redietz did not want to take on a 1k pick'em contest against me. For all his shit-talking about APs one would think he'd be ready to take my 1k. Pretty funny. All talk no walk.
Clearly, you're someone who can't pay attention. And, who can't get along with even him/herself. Always trying to take something over, but, left to doing so on an almost totally defunct gambling forum. Pretty darn pitiful. No wonder you haven't any university degree, let alone in psychology.
At any rate, my very own challenge (to myself) stands. Two weeks. But, "I likes my chances." Ha.
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LOL. I'll tell you what, account. Do you know how many "challenges" I've had in my lifetime?Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Here's one for you --
Rather than compete against you, I'll give you a taste of what it's like to be in the public eye as a handicapper.
As far as the NFL goes, if you win more than 55% of your wagers betting five NFL sides per week, or 100 NFL sides for the season, I'll GIVE you 1K. All that's required is that you post them under your real verifiable name or send me a note with your real verifiable name.
How can a true AP pass on free money? See, your posting under your name makes it real. It puts you in the public eye. It adds a little juice to your anonymous existence.
Send me an email at IntegritySports@aol.com. You can post the plays here or send them along to me. Don't worry -- I won't even look at them until the conclusion of the season.
I won't be responding to any of your posts going forward. If you want to try a different sport, we can negotiate. College football is a no go, as you could, theoretically, access my plays. College hoops is also a no go, as people do win, and you could access their plays. Be my guest regarding the NFL, NBA, hockey, baseball, whatever.
Looking forward to your email and your real name. Good luck. I'll check back here in January and post your updated record. In fact, if I get my revamped site up and running, I'll even post your name and plays under something like, "Taking Bob's Money!"
See you in January!
Red, A=0 IQ is just another crank who spouts off all of the stuff he, supposedly, could do, but, then, gets around to none of it. Definitely, not to be bothered with, in the sense that it's best to hold one's own course. Honestly, I get the feeling that he took a bet about the forum getting back on its "feet". Why else try so hard? Anyway, now he has two dates to look out for, but, there's not a darn thing he can do about either. Lol at such persons who tell others to stop posting, that the forum would be better off without them.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Looks like your assumption was 100% correct...Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
I fell asleep after that part, but I think the ditz is missing the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
What a total punk-ass bitch move.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyLooks like your assumption was 100% correct...Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
I fell asleep after that part, but I think the ditz is missing the point.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
He knows me giving my name out is nowhere near worth 1k to me. He must have fretted over this for days to try and come up with an out. I guess it worked. Good job redietz. Great way to be a coward but give yourself some face-saving nonsense.
What a joke. I doubt this dude has ever associated with any sort of real gangster. He's too much of a scared bitch for them to want to do anything with him. Fedora (LOL)or not.
It is much like Kewl. You call them out and it is always something.. For Kewl I asked him to give the case number to Dan Druff. If I recall correctly that was a big part of the catalyst for his fantasy existence falling apart. THe most trustworthy neutral party we have here. It is only a case # so it really doesn't matter although I suppose he'd have to give out his real name to Dan Druff via the case.
So what just happened in this situation with redietz?
Pretty much same thing.
I challenged Redietz to a simple contest that is completely in his wheelhouse and not in mine. INFACT I am the category of person he goes out of his way to belittle !! An "AP". Yet when asked to put up money with neutral 3rd party he is silent (for days) then comes up with some face-saving bullshit. I keep it a reasonable amount of 1k. For any sort of successful bettor (which is what Redietz readily claims) 1k should not be a big deal. I didn't pick up large bluffinge amount. Just enough that it matters a bit.
Apparently still too much.
I'd put my real name out there if he escrows an amount where it'd be worth it to me I can *assure* you he still wouldn't do it.
This dude can't pay the $500 tax bill on his house !!
He just comes up with more bullshit to avoid anything in real life.
"integrity"sports lol sounds like a total grift. what a clown. I said he is like a guy in a poker tournament. He looks for people to invest him. IE put him in action. Much like many of these WSOP players.
TBH I don't care much. I was probably only 70% favorite. $400 in EV for messing with that for a full season doesn't really meet what I'm looking to take on such a task. I figured I'd throw it out for funnsies though. oh well.
anyway probably good it is behind us so this thread can continue on with talk of actual sports betting instead of coin-flipping nonsense.
As usual I can't really follow half of this and even if I did it isn't worth it. Just nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gottlob1Red, A=0 IQ is just another crank who spouts off all of the stuff he, supposedly, could do, but, then, gets around to none of it. Definitely, not to be bothered with, in the sense that it's best to hold one's own course. Honestly, I get the feeling that he took a bet about the forum getting back on its "feet". Why else try so hard? Anyway, now he has two dates to look out for, but, there's not a darn thing he can do about either. Lol at such persons who tell others to stop posting, that the forum would be better off without them.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
My mistake was actually reading a post of yours recently. Then I feel the urge to actually respond to the drivel and that is on me.
Geez, man, just accept the free-roll, have the money escrowed to your buddy Druff, Druff, and, start "throwing the darts".
Lol, the problem with you is that you make trouble that wasn't called for. With Crimm, and virtually all of the others, it's fun to read the "get the motherfucker troll on" stuff, most of which was thus similarly called for. To top it off, then, you scurry away, for a while, only to start up more trouble in another harmless post. Again, with the others, it's tongue in cheek, but, with you, it's just plain irritating.
Tell you what, A=0 IQ, if my numerals of the fine structure stuff aren't right on, in a couple of weeks, then I will leave the forum, what's left of it, for good, but, if right on, then you leave it, for good. How about it, big boy with the big name that nobody could care less about, let alone some casino?
P.S. What I've done has never been done before. I guess that it's one of those things that has zero chance of happening, except that it's still possible. So, how the heck could you lose?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NxO6-FRJCeo
Ok ok I said i wouldn't read anymore of your posts but I have to clarify.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gottlob1
First Redietz never said he'd escrow the 1k. If his offer was sincere he would have mentioned it but I don't care to bring it up because I'm not doxing myself over 1k. Lol, seriously I've been around the internet longer than anyone on this forum and know the risks. Just like his buddy Kewl, I don't want weirdos appearing in my real life. Just look at seedvalue went back months into my posting history to see if he could discern some clue about who I am. Why ?? Fuck that.
And there are many many other reasons which I won't enumerate.
Here is the deal - Redietz has no real job skills or anything else. That is why he is so quick to use his real name because it is necessary for him to try and establish credibility. He needs that in hopes he can be put in action OR on his laughable fantasy that someone would make a movie about him. Perhaps a lifetime channel special. I don't know.
We live in 2 totally different worlds.
I put forth a sincere attempt at a simple challenge for fun. Literally. All this shit-talking aside I made a reasonable offer. Escrow money and pick your rules. $1,000 whole dollars.
Redietz was silent for days then comes up with rules he KNOWS I won't accept. It would be like me saying put up $50k and lets see but I didn't. I put forth a sincere and quite reasonable offer. I'm just wanting to have fun and at the end of the season a little bit of pain losing. It'd be a bit of work to go through with it but I would. I put my money where my mouth is for better or worse.
"if my numerals of the fine structure stuff aren't right on"... wtf are you jibber jabbering on about Bill. sheesh
You're another one who needs your real name out there just so people know how to refer to you. Crazy nut with 7 accounts.
Next we'll hear from Kewl standing up for Redietz. ;) That is the best part. Birds of a feather ...
If I'm so crazy, then take the bet! No names, or money, involved. Otherwise, just get the fuck out of here because what you, either, say doesn't mean anything. Lol.
P.S. Well, at this point, I honestly don't know what else to tell you, except that I truly do have to get back to work. Go ahead pissing on others without letting them any such recourse.
Mudbrain, maybe I seem like an asshole and it could definitely be argued but lol look at Redietz. Dude can't do anything but belittle people who talk about sports betting outside his narrow scope of comprehension. I'm antagonistic and he is unjustifiably arrogant. A particular trait I absolutely despise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gottlob1
I have no idea what your bet was. I literally can't understand what you are saying. I'm not making any irrelevant "bet" about leaving forums or any of that. For starters you have 7 accounts and you even seem proud of it. I seriously doubt that you, Mudbrain, can understand leaving a forum. Secondly, myself, AIQ, has no interest in such childish things. I should go back to barely reading your posts. And let me tell you something, Mudbrain, you will unequivocally win that contest as "Most lightly read poster". It just isn't worth the energy.
So I reread your post once again and you want to bet over whether " my numerals of the fine structure stuff aren't right on" .. my only answer to this is why am I responding.
In a nutshell, again, I offered you the best odds of any bet imaginable. To which you wrote another "10 or 20 times" of gobbledygook.
Next ... ! Oh wait, there isn't really anyone left. Gamblers. Who would have figured it. Lol.
Is this open to any member here and will you accept over/under bets as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzLOL. I'll tell you what, account. Do you know how many "challenges" I've had in my lifetime?Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Here's one for you --
Rather than compete against you, I'll give you a taste of what it's like to be in the public eye as a handicapper.
As far as the NFL goes, if you win more than 55% of your wagers betting five NFL sides per week, or 100 NFL sides for the season, I'll GIVE you 1K. All that's required is that you post them under your real verifiable name or send me a note with your real verifiable name.
How can a true AP pass on free money? See, your posting under your name makes it real. It puts you in the public eye. It adds a little juice to your anonymous existence.
Send me an email at IntegritySports@aol.com. You can post the plays here or send them along to me. Don't worry -- I won't even look at them until the conclusion of the season.
I won't be responding to any of your posts going forward. If you want to try a different sport, we can negotiate. College football is a no go, as you could, theoretically, access my plays. College hoops is also a no go, as people do win, and you could access their plays. Be my guest regarding the NFL, NBA, hockey, baseball, whatever.
Looking forward to your email and your real name. Good luck. I'll check back here in January and post your updated record. In fact, if I get my revamped site up and running, I'll even post your name and plays under something like, "Taking Bob's Money!"
See you in January!
He probably won't answer but we know the answer. I don't even believe it is open to me! Give me a minute of your time here.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Ok I am about to go Mdawg on Redietz's ass. We need to get rid of these phonies. Get grandma's broom out.
Actually I'll leave Ditz alone after this. He is probably not a bad guy. I feel a bit abusive. Even Garnabby seems to be telling me to go easy on redietz but ditz brings it on himself but dammit I'm bored.
Here we go with the putting himself on some pedastal. Lol. Such a deluded person. Everyone knows he is king of a hill. (the one in his own head).Quote:
LOL. I'll tell you what, account. Do you know how many "challenges" I've had in my lifetime?
"public eye" ? More delusion. Redietz thinks because he uses his real name that he is in the "public eye" but in reality there are no eyes looking at him.Quote:
Here's one for you --
Rather than compete against you, I'll give you a taste of what it's like to be in the public eye as a handicapper.
He also fails to understand I'm not handicapping nor have I ever handicapped. AFAIK picking sides is not handicapping. I never claimed I could beat him "handicapping" but I'd bet over the longrun I'd beat him in pick'em contests.
Here we go and he doesn't even specify the source of the line. Why not? Well I can think of 2 reasons. First this was not a sincere offer. This whole thing is a bluff. The other reason would simply be because he somehow (I literally have no clue how) doesn't understand the concept of weak lines (or whatever you wish to call them). The lines don't matter says Redietz.Quote:
As far as the NFL goes, if you win more than 55% of your wagers betting five NFL sides per week, or 100 NFL sides for the season, I'll GIVE you 1K. All that's required is that you post them under your real verifiable name or send me a note with your real verifiable name.
It is all bullshit with him so he doesn't even realize how important it would be. Can I pick my own line?
Alex, why I'll take the Cowboys at +100 for one thousand.
"free money" but yet he demands I jump through hoops and do something which I clearly have no interest in doing. It appears he doesn't even understand the concept of things having value outside of cash. But lets be honest - He has to frame all this stuff in such a manner because it is required to have some semblance of a logical cohesiveness while letting him duck out the backdoor.Quote:
How can a true AP pass on free money? See, your posting under your name makes it real. It puts you in the public eye. It adds a little juice to your anonymous existence.
Also - notice he gives no indication that he wants to escrow. A guy who can't pay his $500 tax bill. I never dog on people for not having money but when someone is as arrogant and self-absorbed as this guy... Why on Earth would I EVER take up an offer of his? He stiffed a charity over another one of his "I'll give you X if you do Y" claims. He stiffs $100 to a legitimate charity so why would I even begin to expect he'd pay me 1k? He understands enough to know I'm not that stupid and it all goes along with the fact this is a bluff.
You can tell he is clueless when he talk about "plays" but not the corresponding price. Clearly this man has done very very little cash wagering.Quote:
I won't be responding to any of your posts going forward. If you want to try a different sport, we can negotiate. College football is a no go, as you could, theoretically, access my plays. College hoops is also a no go, as people do win, and you could access their plays. Be my guest regarding the NFL, NBA, hockey, baseball, whatever.
Actually he never even says ATS so it is unclear if he just means pick the winner straight up? Maybe it gives him wiggle room to welch? Nah he isn't that deep of a thinker. lol
Not sure why he is obsessed with my name. He can't win his arguments so he has to switch to something else which he has been hounding us over. Previously when pressed on this subject the only legitimate reason he could give for using one's real name is because people might be interested in your story.Quote:
Looking forward to your email and your real name. Good luck. I'll check back here in January and post your updated record. In fact, if I get my revamped site up and running, I'll even post your name and plays under something like, "Taking Bob's Money!"
Uhhh no. I'm not that deluded. Sorry Ditz.
Now he has flipped it around and claims I should use my real name so I know what it feels like to be him. (Unfucking believable!) People don't criticize his picks because no one ever sees them. Pick'em contests against a losing field simply won't pass muster. If his picks do exist he'll chastise you for not doing your research while refusing to tell you where to find them !
Folks, it would be hard to make this shit up. I can imagine this dude getting up in the morning, putting on his Fedora and doing a little finger gun thing to himself in the mirror. Fonz style.
He has never explained his view on EV indepth just that it doesn't exist. He won't argue his point but he will bring it up on GF taking obvious jabs at me. The only time he has offered to explain himself is if one shows up to meet him in person. As if. These are all the gambits of a phoney.
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See you in January!
Sure as hell didn't read any of that. Lol.
AW, it looks like Red found his spot, finally, to give it up. I mean, it's not about the members being so sharp, but, about too few members now to hide behind gossip, crank stories, etc. At which point, only the true blue ones can hold their tune.
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In other words, when the "chips are down", each of us has to face up it, whatever, on our very own. So, it's best to come prepared.
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About the song meaning, Warren said:
At that time I was into new wave philosophies about working on yourself, meditation and that sort of stuff. The whole lyric comes out of that. It wasn’t a romantic song at all. For me it was all about an individual changing and being a different sort of person – trying to find out the root of your inner confusion, dealing with it and becoming a better person. So it was literally a philosophical lyric.
I have not seen the episode yet:
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Ah, and with the numeral, 333, to boot. Ha.
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May sound counter-intuitive, but, the last bit of good theoretical physics I read, about five years ago, was about unifying the Standard Model with gravity, exactly how to go about it. I bookmarked that article, too, and, plan to pick up where I left off.
No matter how disparate, most theories begin to at least sound like the others, which is how I relate them to my own. I like to work ahead with my very own stuff, to try to keep it reasonably simple. I mean, Hawking spent a lifetime to end up with stuff like Hawking radiation, but, even when I started out thinking about stuff like it, I realized that nothing is perfect, not even black, black, black, ... holes. You can go from there to realize that continuity has to be a point because if it where a solid line, then nothing could exist to move on a thus line. And, so, we don't quite move through time, and space, just by moving. Things undergo a severe work-up to the extent that even the integers don't progress 1, 2, and 3. I have found that it's such a severe work-up that allows for everything to work out, at least by the numerals. But, then surely for their physical aspects, too.
I don't think that the Standard Model will fall, anytime soon. Lots of people have tried. But, like dimensions, there is no end to the types of forces. It's exactly a severe work-up that allows for a different type of math/physics at each dimension, not, say, that 1-d real numbers must be as uncountably plentiful as 3-d real numbers. I just preferred to "bite the (infinity) bullet", very early on, and, get over it. Certainly, no way to rule it out.
As far as five goes, one of the other thus things I last read, in detail, was that there are supposed to five neutrinos instead of three, given how long different types last before one type becomes another. Something like that.
Oh, to add that a point turns through the dimensions. That's the continuity of a point. Pure dimensions, unlike the ones supposed of 1-d to 4-d, by real numbers, which aren't the same after considering the extension of an anti-point. And, where an infinite number of different higher dimensions becomes useful is to determine the pattern by which they are formed from the lower ones. In that sense one can start to make sense of infinity, instead of trying to cancel all of them out (in physics), or, just ignoring them (in math sets, etc). The dimensions of point, versus, extension of anti-point, a point inverted outward.
Oh, and all of it will be much clear after I post up the fine-structure constants, themselves, to show the pattern by which the dimensions grow out of themselves. You really have to have an absolute, true fact to go on, to fairly quickly put the rest of things finally together/apart.
Why would anybody waste time reading such babble? It's a lock that this whacko lives on drugs and has a zero life.
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I'll see your, "Au contraire, mon frere," and raise you a, "Buckle up, Buttercup." Ha.
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Anyway, sometime after going to sleep, and before waking up, last night, and, this morning, respectively, I think that I made it.
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Well, the Billy Walters book is out. I went to Amazon to get the kindle version but they don't have it. At least not for sale. You have to order the hard cover. It's a one week delivery and I'm on the road. I have to be where I can pick it up. I might have a copy by Sept 6.
But you can get a sample on Kindle. So I downloaded the sample. Did you know that Walters and Steve Wynn are mortal enemies? Walters said it started when he beat Wynn out of 3.6 million playing roulette. It seems Walters knows a lot about biased roulette wheels going back to the 80's. And he said Wynn stood in the way of him getting an early pardon.
He also threw Mickelson way under the bus. He said he has no respect for Mickelson or Wynn.
Now, for sports betting. Here's some quotes:
"I've been up since 4:30 AM double checking games....the games with odds to my liking are listed on a legal pad to my right along with corresponding power ratings. The greater the difference between my rating and the point spread, the more I'm going to bet."
"Betting sports is about one thing and one thing only: value."
About his power ratings he said "My expert analysts gather a thousand points of data and feed them into a computer programmed with proprietary algorithms and probability theories."
He said that things like weather and field conditions have to be factored in also. But it was pretty clear that power ratings from computer driven algorithms is his main gig.
He is big on value....as in....expected value. The bigger the edge he figures to have the more he bets.
Redietz needs to have a talk with Walters and tell him that analyzing statistics don't work in sports betting.
I am starting to finally understand who Redietz is.
The picture has formed.
In his later years, he wanted to make a name for himself and hopefully a little scratch. So he pieces together this whole personality because he vaguely rubbed elbows with some gangsters back in his glory days. He was never a serious bettor nor even a serious handicapper. If so he would have killed the fantasy sports days. That game made a lot of dough for people and mostly using the same skills Redietz claims to have. There is literally no way he could have been a serious bettor for the past 20 years and not know the basic stuff he does.
What makes Redietz precious is he is so proud of his ignorance. Dunning-Kruger type stuff. Even after all this time he still ridicules concepts used by winning sports bettors all over. Thats all because he has never been one. It is beyond obvious at this stage.
It took forever to get him to come up with a reason why to not be anonymous. It is all based on having opportunities in book/movie/podcast form. That was the only reason he gave. Thats who the guy is. He wants to be perceived as the real thing but never even learned the basics of what he claims to be able to do.
Another reason we know he is a bullshit artist is because he's never put forth one effort to prove any of his claims. Just recently it was Stanford getting behind Ivermectin for long covid. Yes, LONG covid. After the virus is gone he is taking ivermectin to clear up the symptoms from the damage. lol. Wait what? Yea.. if you have half a brain you can see ... He used to tell people how lazy they were to not research things. Always putting it off on them. The ol 'prove this negative'. so pathetic.
PS - oh yea he has put forth those tournament results but whatever that means. Plenty of losing poker players with a bracelet/wsop ring. Same deal.
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Well, good to know I don't analyze statistics. LOL. Mickey, you are parading your ignorance. Not the first time. You know absolutely nothing about me, and you refuse to take what I say at face value.
I have reported here, many times, that Mr. Walters assembled roundtables of experts and tried to extract "power ratings" from each of them. Why power ratings? Well, the answer is obvious. God almighty, mickey, have some brains. Seriously, if I die tomorrow, I would feel badly that you didn't actually learn anything from me. He also tried to keep the experts separate from each other. Gee, I wonder why.
I'm pretty sure I posted on here that one of my first conversations with one of Mr. Walters' lap dogs had to do with him wanting to buy my power ratings or pay me to formalize everything I do into power ratings. We had a conversation. I think I shocked the dude. He assumed, because I was 40-something at the time, that I had been doing this for fewer years than he had. He was way wrong.
As I was saying, it's good I don't analyze statistics. Now if mickey actually asked anyone who knew me or worked with me if I analyzed statistics, well, it would be a pretty funny discussion. I used to be able to do a parlor trick. Sunday LA Times -- all the college stats in column form listed game by game. Give me roughly two hours with it. I would then hand the paper over and, with no notes, tell people to quiz me. Not rain man stuff, but relatively precise ballpark accuracy (as within 10-15 yards each category of stat for every team).
I can't do that anymore, but I'm not exactly stat-averse.
Account, there is an established sports betting world that is many times larger than all the alleged AP bullshit historically combined. More people, more history, more expertise, and actual fact-based histories. Real people, not anonymous whack jobs alleging they know this and that without "reading carefully and thoroughly."
I was offered a small spot in a movie last night. No kidding. I was modest and said they didn't have to do that; I was just glad to help. But account, tell you what, if you want me to take a spot in a gangster-related film, I'll do so just for you. Right now, I'm just a consultant, but if you want me to pop up in the movie, so be it.
We can start a separate thread. My role would be shot in LV because the middle third of the film takes place in LV. Let me know if you want me to accept the role. I await your expert decision.
And account, for the gazillionth time, being monitored is not a "tournament." It's your actual plays for a season. Those McCusker Report pages in the Retro Road Trip thread are not a "tournament." They are annual results for top public handicappers published in book form.
Mickey, here's another great idea. Before declaring things about me sans evidence, why don't you track down people who worked with me? Ask them and report here. Not that hard. Freshman journalism stuff. Honestly, if you sit down with the Wise Guys, or Fezzik for that matter, or possibly Anthony Curtis (I assume he knows me), or Marc Lawrence, or Phil Steele, and say that "Bob Dietz doesn't use statistics," you'll be laughed out of Dodge.
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You just can't make this shit up. LOL! Fucking Ditz! He went on and on about how you can't get anywhere using statistics. Told us we're dumasses if we try. I already knew Walters was using computer programs but waited until the book came out to confirm it because I knew the move ditz would pull "You don't know jackshit!"Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Well, good to know I don't analyze statistics. LOL. Mickey, you are parading your ignorance. Not the first time. You know absolutely nothing about me, and you refuse to take what I say at face value.
I have reported here, many times, that Mr. Walters assembled roundtables of experts and tried to extract "power ratings" from each of them. Why power ratings? Well, the answer is obvious. God almighty, mickey, have some brains. Seriously, if I die tomorrow, I would feel badly that you didn't actually learn anything from me. He also tried to keep the experts separate from each other. Gee, I wonder why.
I'm pretty sure I posted on here that one of my first conversations with one of Mr. Walters' lap dogs had to do with him wanting to buy my power ratings or pay me to formalize everything I do into power ratings. We had a conversation. I think I shocked the dude. He assumed, because I was 40-something at the time, that I had been doing this for fewer years than he had. He was way wrong.
As I was saying, it's good I don't analyze statistics. Now if mickey actually asked anyone who knew me or worked with me if I analyzed statistics, well, it would be a pretty funny discussion. I used to be able to do a parlor trick. Sunday LA Times -- all the college stats in column form listed game by game. Give me roughly two hours with it. I would then hand the paper over and, with no notes, tell people to quiz me. Not rain man stuff, but relatively precise ballpark accuracy (as within 10-15 yards each category of stat for every team).
I can't do that anymore, but I'm not exactly stat-averse.
Account, there is an established sports betting world that is many times larger than all the alleged AP bullshit historically combined. More people, more history, more expertise, and actual fact-based histories. Real people, not anonymous whack jobs alleging they know this and that without "reading carefully and thoroughly."
I was offered a small spot in a movie last night. No kidding. I was modest and said they didn't have to do that; I was just glad to help. But account, tell you what, if you want me to take a spot in a gangster-related film, I'll do so just for you. Right now, I'm just a consultant, but if you want me to pop up in the movie, so be it.
We can start a separate thread. My role would be shot in LV because the middle third of the film takes place in LV. Let me know if you want me to accept the role. I await your expert decision.
And account, for the gazillionth time, being monitored is not a "tournament." It's your actual plays for a season. Those McCusker Report pages in the Retro Road Trip thread are not a "tournament." They are annual results for top public handicappers published in book form.
Mickey, here's another great idea. Before declaring things about me sans evidence, why don't you track down people who worked with me? Ask them and report here. Not that hard. Freshman journalism stuff. Honestly, if you sit down with the Wise Guys, or Fezzik for that matter, or possibly Anthony Curtis (I assume he knows me), or Marc Lawrence, or Phil Steele, and say that "Bob Dietz doesn't use statistics," you'll be laughed out of Dodge.
So when I post up what Walters does, here comes ditz with the "I use statistics all the time, don't you know that? I can quote stats off the top of my head" routine. LOL! Fricking dunce. To late, ditz. You already made your bed when you said stats are worthless. So quit lying about it.
And stop with the nonsense of your pea brain beating Walter's computers. You're embarrassing yourself.
Oh, and tracking people down to ask about you? I tracked down Bob Dancer and Richard Munchkin. They said they don't think you are qualified for a podcast on gambling.
So better try your luck in the movies. You got no shot in sports betting.
Redietz, take that movie part. I am sure you'd have fun. Worst case here is there would be no lolz but if you don't come around being insulting then I doubt I'd go out of my way to insult/troll you.
As far as APs sporting betting - If you were to ask me I'd say sports-bettors are a subset of APs. Seems kinda obvious but a minor point. The stuff Mickey and I are talking about are guys who take in every angle. Many with a lot of experience who don't need investors.
And at the end of the day it is either promos or soft lines. If the lines are too solid then you'll never have an edge outside of running good. Thats just how it works. Tournaments don't need this as you are playing against other people and not the house (who has a lot more to lose). Whatever. Not much else to say. Good luck with movie. You should do it. I'm not sure what answer you'd expect from me even though you are being facetious. I don't care what you do. Seems obvious unless it costs you much out of pocket.
Also Redietz - the fact that I admit to not reading everything thoroughly may be a reason for scorn in your world but shrug. For starters it is not efficient to read everything thoroughly or you have to simply lower your intake. Me, being the polymath I am, has learned to skim things. Now that clearly has its downsides but has nothing to do with me knowing when you are wrong. (And you are very often wrong)
But MORE importantly is I don't really need to pump myself on the internet. I'm self-realized and understand my limitations. I really don't give many shits. I live in my parents basement for christ's sake. If people ridicule me it doesn't matter too much. While it may evoke my ire at the time, i'm not sitting around caring what people on this forum think of me. I'm cackling and lolzing at the greatest source of shits and giggles in my world. VCT.
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How does you living in your parents' basement influence the goings on of the Son of God?
Sounds a bit like blasphemy.
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Bbbbwwwaaahhhh, I wonder if the Dan Druff regret that he once harumph and proclaim that the kewl-J and the r-e-dietz had credibilities, hey hey????
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How does you living in your parents' basement influence the goings on of the Son of God?
Sounds a bit like blasphemy.
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Mickey, you're lying though your teeth, and what's worse, you know it, or you would have plucked direct quotes demonstrating me saying that I "don't use statistics." Go ahead and shop every blessed one of my 6000 posts. You won't even find anything close.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou just can't make this shit up. LOL! Fucking Ditz! He went on and on about how you can't get anywhere using statistics. Told us we're dumasses if we try. I already knew Walters was using computer programs but waited until the book came out to confirm it because I knew the move ditz would pull "You don't know jackshit!"Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Well, good to know I don't analyze statistics. LOL. Mickey, you are parading your ignorance. Not the first time. You know absolutely nothing about me, and you refuse to take what I say at face value.
I have reported here, many times, that Mr. Walters assembled roundtables of experts and tried to extract "power ratings" from each of them. Why power ratings? Well, the answer is obvious. God almighty, mickey, have some brains. Seriously, if I die tomorrow, I would feel badly that you didn't actually learn anything from me. He also tried to keep the experts separate from each other. Gee, I wonder why.
I'm pretty sure I posted on here that one of my first conversations with one of Mr. Walters' lap dogs had to do with him wanting to buy my power ratings or pay me to formalize everything I do into power ratings. We had a conversation. I think I shocked the dude. He assumed, because I was 40-something at the time, that I had been doing this for fewer years than he had. He was way wrong.
As I was saying, it's good I don't analyze statistics. Now if mickey actually asked anyone who knew me or worked with me if I analyzed statistics, well, it would be a pretty funny discussion. I used to be able to do a parlor trick. Sunday LA Times -- all the college stats in column form listed game by game. Give me roughly two hours with it. I would then hand the paper over and, with no notes, tell people to quiz me. Not rain man stuff, but relatively precise ballpark accuracy (as within 10-15 yards each category of stat for every team).
I can't do that anymore, but I'm not exactly stat-averse.
Account, there is an established sports betting world that is many times larger than all the alleged AP bullshit historically combined. More people, more history, more expertise, and actual fact-based histories. Real people, not anonymous whack jobs alleging they know this and that without "reading carefully and thoroughly."
I was offered a small spot in a movie last night. No kidding. I was modest and said they didn't have to do that; I was just glad to help. But account, tell you what, if you want me to take a spot in a gangster-related film, I'll do so just for you. Right now, I'm just a consultant, but if you want me to pop up in the movie, so be it.
We can start a separate thread. My role would be shot in LV because the middle third of the film takes place in LV. Let me know if you want me to accept the role. I await your expert decision.
And account, for the gazillionth time, being monitored is not a "tournament." It's your actual plays for a season. Those McCusker Report pages in the Retro Road Trip thread are not a "tournament." They are annual results for top public handicappers published in book form.
Mickey, here's another great idea. Before declaring things about me sans evidence, why don't you track down people who worked with me? Ask them and report here. Not that hard. Freshman journalism stuff. Honestly, if you sit down with the Wise Guys, or Fezzik for that matter, or possibly Anthony Curtis (I assume he knows me), or Marc Lawrence, or Phil Steele, and say that "Bob Dietz doesn't use statistics," you'll be laughed out of Dodge.
So when I post up what Walters does, here comes ditz with the "I use statistics all the time, don't you know that? I can quote stats off the top of my head" routine. LOL! Fricking dunce. To late, ditz. You already made your bed when you said stats are worthless. So quit lying about it.
And stop with the nonsense of your pea brain beating Walter's computers. You're embarrassing yourself.
Oh, and tracking people down to ask about you? I tracked down Bob Dancer and Richard Munchkin. They said they don't think you are qualified for a podcast on gambling.
So better try your luck in the movies. You got no shot in sports betting.
Cumulative statistics are of limited value in college football due to the disparities of the teams and the limited schedules. Everyone knows that. They are, however, still required knowledge. Used incorrectly, they can be self-sabotaging. But that's why they pay me the big money.
By the way, Dancer and Munchkin (and the LVA in general) are not exactly ground zero for sports betting expertise. I love Dancer and Munchkin. I will shoot them an email and quote you. We'll see what Munch has to say. I suggest you do the same.