And now Ahigh is Suspended for 7 days for using obscenities. That's 3 top Posters gone in just one day.
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And now Ahigh is Suspended for 7 days for using obscenities. That's 3 top Posters gone in just one day.
I'm telling you, girl, you gotta strike while the iron is hot.
Tell Mike you won 49 out of 50 sessions; you'll be the golden child.
He seems gullible about such claims and by now he must realize the WoV ship is in perilous waters.
True, you'll have a tough hurdle to jump over, i.e. the need to post threads that aren't vapid, insipid, moronic and stupid.
Might I recommend you go to Amazon and purchase "WoV for Dummies?"
A lot of the posts I was writing during my time on WOV were sad and desperate attempts to get praise, kudos and fit in. Like when some guy claimed he lost more money than he wanted to in a bad Casino Session. I looking for praise on how mature and insightful I was being posted something like,"You really should stop Gambling. You already lost more money than you wanted to. Keep going down this path and you'll end up being a Bum living on the streets begging People for money." I was being seen as a joke on WOV, so I thought this post was my ticket to being seen as serious, mature, and insightful. I was expecting praise for that post.
The Poster responded something like,"It wasn't money I needed and I really don't appreciate People on this Website speaking to me like I am a Degenerate Gambling Addict!" Beachbumbabs responded something like," Only ONE Poster spoke to you like you were a Degenerate Gambling Addict and Nathan shouldn't have said that to you. I apologize for her insensitive remarks to you."
I REALLY didn't care about the money the guy lost, just was looking for praise and kudos for my mature, insightful, and serious response. I didn't get any of that and instead just looked like a condescending Jerk. This was one of the prime examples of me trying to get praise and fit in at WOV rather than posting how I really felt.
A true example of me posting how I really felt and not looking for praise or kudos or to fit in on WOV is my Steve Cyr is a Cold Hearted Herk(Jerk). I was genuinely pissed and disgusted that Steve helped cause at least 3 or 4 gambling related Suicides and was like, "Oh well. They were Adults and didn't HAVE to gamble away their entire Family's inheritance. It's just business for me." I was floored he was talking about 3 or 4 Gambling related Suicides that he helped cause so casually whereas if I help caused even one Suicide, I'd be completely wracked with crushing guilt. Even writing this now, I'm still pissed and disgusted by Steve's casual demeanor about that.
I enjoyed Steve Cyr's book "Whale Hunt in the Desert."
If you haven't already read it I suggest you do so; it is quite good.
Also read "Boardwalk Jungle," which covers casinos coming to Atlantic City and organized crime in that regard.
Actually, there are 5 top WOV Posters recently banned or Suspended from WOV within the last few days.
Coach Belly
MDawg
Terapined
Kewlj
Billryan
WOV got rid of 5 top posters very recently.... Wow...
Tasha, in reality, only 1 of those posters is a TOP poster, posting anything of value. :rolleyes:
A quick glance at WoV shows 103 member visits today. One of those was me just checking a private message. So 102. They might hit 104 today if they are lucky. I have never seen that low. Sure holiday weekend and all, but that is a forum trending the wrong way. But what does Wizard care, he made his money. he seems content watching the forum that bears his name spiral down the drain. :rolleyes:
Even the great fantasy adventure thread guy, off suspension didn't show today. Could it be that in the seven days away with no one to bump his thread and not a single post in the great fantasy thread he has realized that no one gives a crap? :cool:
Come on doggy, don't give up THAT easy. Escalate! Tell us all about a million dollar run at the bacarat table. It has worked wonders for Singer. :D
Here's what an ignorant ass control freak Shackleford is. Taken from the Suspension List thread:
I find it a slap in the face that after I say the use of the N-word is a suspendable offense that coachbelly uses it in this post.
At any time, but especially on major violations, moderators may consider the totality of a member's posts in sentencing. In picking random posts by CB I see a troll and bully who is constantly negative and argumentative. I will give him that he's smart and no one post, until now, has significantly crossed the line.
To be honest, I have been looking for something to get him on for a while. His post yesterday was that opportunity to get rid of him. Goodbye CB, you are nuked. I will personally take the heat on this one, although the decision was supported by the other active moderators.
"This has almost nothing to do with Dave Chappelle and one word. It is about the disrespect he showed me and the collective contribution to the forum, which has been almost entirely to tear people down. I wish CB well, elsewhere"
When Chapelle jammed them up about being able to use the word "nigger" but not "faggot" they said it was because Chapelle was not gay. Chapelle's response was he wasn't a nigger either.
Stories like that need to be told but Shack is an asshole.
I like Ahigh's response to what Shack did:
"I would suppose you also don't have a problem with Chris Rock getting slapped for telling a joke that someone did not LIKE.
Here's the dig. Those who enforce rules inappropriately as it relates to what constitutes hate-speech are, ironically, guilty of the same: hate. In general, if you say you're not a racist, BUT because someone ELSE has WHITE skin color, you come up with a rule that people with WHITE SKIN COLOR must follow a different set of ethical principles for what THEIR RACE is allowed to say, is that FIGHTING RACISM?
If you say someone CANNOT TELL A RACIST JOKE because it touches on a TABOO SUBJECT OF RACISM, who is hateful? The person telling the joke to get laughter, or the one stifling comedy for a racist agenda?
Philosophy is hard. Understanding a sadistic bitch's intentions is harder still.
The fact is that criminal sexual sadists (those who get pleasure from exacting pain on their victims for no reason other than to enjoy the torture) are people who pretend that the rules enable them to exact pain on someone else, because they like exacting pain on someone else.
When you violate the law to do this, you become the worst kind of predator there is. A criminal sexual sadist."
Darkoz sucked Shack's dick over it.
Gordon888 is a little punk that needs his safe space.
Billryan also sucked Shack's dick but got the boot anyway.
The problem with this politically correct "don't say nigger" rule is it is always selectively enforced. One of my favorite albums back in the 70's was Richard Pryor's "That Nigger is Crazy."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4
Youtube doesn't have a problem with the n word. This song dedicated to Michael Shackleford.
https://youtu.be/AZLFeHdizxQ
Actually, it was 6 posters that were gone in recent days. At the same time or roughly it.
Ahigh
Billryan
MDawg
Kewlj
Terapined
Coach Belly
WOV REALLY did a VERY impulsive and rash thing, getting rid of 6 Top Posters around the same time....
What you suggested reminds me of The Careers from The Hunger Games. The Careers band together in The Hunger Games until it is just them left and then they kill each other until only one Career is left. The sole Winner of The Hunger Games. The Winner gets hailed as a Hero and their entire District gets free food for a year.
I got three days for saying people suck for free instead of getting paid for it lol . He said personal insult lol
Well, new member Alexc on WOV is OBVIOUSLY a Spammer. Blatantly a Scammer. Bumped up a nearly two year old Thread to hawk some experimental medicine. He did this three times in the same thread. I can see him being gone today, like within the next couple of hours. New Member Lucy also looks like a shady Spammer but not as blatant and obvious as Alexc.
That was me that said that and if I recall correctly it was only a 3 day suspension. I thought it was a terrible reason for a suspension but I did not care enough to argue about it. The way I look at it is if they suspend me they are the ones paying for it because they will not receive my wisdom.
You handled that weird Suspension way more maturely than I handled my two week Suspension for Alimony. Two People brought up Alimony on a thread about a guy trying to hide his Jackpot. I responded to both of them. Beachbumbabs gave me a two week Suspension for bringing up Alimony twice in a thread that was about a guy trying to hide his Jackpot, not about Alimony. Posters were like,"She brought up Alimony twice because she responded to two different People who brought up Alimony first. She didn't bring up Alimony first. You've done worse things. " The Suspension still stuck for the whole two weeks despite multiple Posters sticking up for me. I was pissed off about the Alimony Suspension and to this day, it still doesn't sit right with me.
"To be, or not to be: that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them?"
Such anger over perceived slights; such a feasting on resentments.
Let the revolution begin!
To the barricades!
Pick up those pitchforks, light those firebrands, and attack!
How DARE they!
That's what THE DAMNED really feel, eh?
To this day, I still don't know why I got a two week Suspension for the Alimony thing. I was responding to two different people who brought it up first. It's not like I brought it up out of the blue. And ironically, the two people who actually brought it up first didn't get a Suspension.
Seedvalue is STILL Suspended on June 6 for a three day Suspension he got on June 1st. I wonder if this will end up like the time my Blackjackpro Sock got a three day Suspension for sending Poker Grinder an unsolicited PM begging for help. Poker Grinder ignored the PM and instead reported it to the Admins and I got a three day Suspension. On day 4 I was STILL Suspended. Maxpen spoke up and said something like,"I'm sure Blackjackpro enjoys still being Suspended on day 4 of a three day Suspension." The Admins responded that they were doing investigating and Blackjackpro needed to be patient. More days passed and I was still banned. I was thinking,"Any day now I'll be reinstated and get an apology for the extended Suspension." Instead, I was permanently banned without ever being reinstated. I wonder if this will be Seedvalue's fate.
The 2 dice challenge FAILED as predicted, and failed MISERABLY!
Ended up even worse than 1 in 11 and was 1 in 14....hahahahahahaha.
Alan, I really enjoyed your sense of humor in the
WOV thread "Free play doesn't last forever" today. Even though I don't know if it was intentional humor...
SeedValue and DarkOz were discussing using 40 to 60 cards at max value to Crush the marketing department and bring it to a halt...
The very next post Alan jumps in "Had $10 at Suncoast cashed $11.25..."
Its not a joke.
As a table player I get very little free play. I thought it would be interesting to see what would happen with my free play by just running it thru once.
Pre pandemic I was getting $75 twice a week at Red Rock and $45 twice a week at Suncoast.
Both have been whittled down to $10 about six times per month.
Just curious, in another thread you said along time ago you got $2500 at your peak. How often and how much were you playing to get that much?
As far as running it through once, you will get what ever the RTP% is. So on a 99% video poker machine you will get $99 per $100 with optimal strategy in the LONG TERM.
Do like the rest of these guys and run 20 plus cards.
I used to get $2500 every time at Caesars. I was playing mostly $5/coin 8/5 Bonus video poker and my play was about 50% video poker.
I saw that 100k Royal you posted awhile back. I know you said you only play about 50% VP. Let's just say hypotheticaly you played all VP with that. On a 99% machine that would be $10 Million coin in, as long as variance was fair. I could see how that would earn you excellent freeplay, especially if marketing calculates VP machines at 97% or so for their free play mailers vs. what the machine is actually set at.
Just an example, I know you probably didn't burn the majority on VP, as you stated you prefer to play Craps.
The biggest offer I’m currently receiving on a card from A Caesar’s property is $1500 5 times a week. However these offers come with a higher level of host oversight that I’ve have found to be counter productive. In addition the play required to keep this offer on tends to make this level of offer less profitable overall then one a few levels below. There are a number of nuances that need to be considered to maximize profits multi carding. Anyone can create a huge offer if you play big enough. That’s the easy part. Can you get the money out of the casino and make a profit is the hard part. Not as easy today as years past.
I know someone that, with a couple of other guys, decided to multi-card the midwest CZR properties for freeplay. He told me they were taking a bath on the machines. One play they picked up an $8 Hex at 3 to go and dumped 13K on it. Don't know if he is still doing it. Haven't seen him for awhile.
Speaking of WoV, I have actually been working some this week and just caught up on some reading at WoV. In the great adventure thread, Maddog is reporting blackjack play over the last 12 days. Here are the results of those 12 days.
+ $11,500
+ $27,500
+ $11,900
+ $38,900
+ $31,500
+ $10,600
+ $23.800
+ $41,900
+ $64,700
+ $18,900
+ $ 6,900
+ $43,200
!2 sessions, all winning sessions, for a win of $331,300, playing double deck blackjack (closely watched) at one of the sweatiest casinos in Las Vegas that uses the latest technology, Cosmopolitan. And as all the pit and management does is pat him on the back and tell him he is the greatest ever. I mean talk about your fairytales? :D:D
And no I am not jealous. What he is claiming just is not reality, nor the way Las Vegas and especially Cosmo and double deck blackjack works. It is pure twilight zone alternative reality.
It is a shame that no one is allowed to say anything. I mean if he was writing that every day he sailed right up to the edge of the earth, would people be prohibited from saying anything? What a forum.
MDawg, if you're reading this (and eventually you will), it's not enough. If you're going to get a film deal, you need hot babes. I know that, you know that, we all know that.
Now I've been thinking about how to do this. It's easy enough to hire various working girls for photo ops (tasteful and fully clothed, of course) and have them pose as women you're dating. The problem is that for the film deal, we can't have any of them coming forward as working girls. So here's what I propose. Hire a bunch of them for tryouts, and no, you don't post about the tryouts. Then pick two, preferably different body types, maybe different ethnicities. To prevent either of them from blowing your cover, make honest women out of them. I don't mean marry them. I mean "sponsor" them, to use a phrase Argentino would understand. And make sure that sponsoring includes an NDA. Then make them part of the dramatic posting storyline. You meet two different women, you love them both, eventually you have to choose, yada, yada, yada.
But make sure they're hot. Bisexual would help. Have some sleepovers with friends, a la the opening of Whale Hunt in the Desert. You need this stuff to make the narrative more juicy. Otherwise you're just Bill Gates playing blackjack without Epstein hanging around. Not exciting.
Now, for designing all this and coaching you up, I fully expect 5% of the film revenue once you sell the story. Good luck and God bless.
This is why you make your story more believable. By acting like a mid level blackjack grinder and regurgitating things from blackjack books you have read it makes your fantasy forum life more believable to SOME. However all good fiction authors have a style that can be used to identify them. I’ve found multiple kew fakes online in the small amount of time investigating you. Your motive could be just to entrap wealthy gay men and extort them. I have a least one who was willing to talk off record about you. I wonder how many more there are ?
Just stop dude. None of this is true. It is crazy talk because you don't like something I said.
Oh, but Tasha was a "Golen child " on WOV the mods were trying to get rid of her from the beginning and I believe Mike was not allowing it. It was only after Tasha/Nathan committed an ultimate sin(IIRC she called Barbara a Cunt etc?) Mike couldn't excuse or ignore that. Barbra can in fact greenlight Tasha's return, however, Barbara won't budge.
BBB has made 4 posts in a year and a half. And she's not moderating. The real reason she, for all intents and purposes, quit WoV is because of being reprimanded for bullying conservative members of the forum. She never admitted she was overbearing.
She got pissed that she got called out on it and looked for an excuse to back out of moderating and participating. Care giving a loved one is the excuse she used. But everyone finds a little time to post.
Care-giving is stressful. Those of us who have done it, know that.
Posting on these forums is stressful. Moderating a forum would be more stressful. People operate optimally at a certain level of stress. When you start adding increments of stress to everything, why bother with the nonsense of these forums? And moderating means you are beholden to catching various things because hosts hold you to certain rules and regs. My blog has no forum attached, for example, because it would be my responsibility to make sure there weren't scammers or child porn or even bad language beyond a certain point on it. I'm not going to risk being shut down because somebody floods a forum with garbage.
Forums are primarily to get clicks and add monetization. Nothing drives traffic like people arguing in dichotomous camps. This isn't speculation. It's both research-proven and the capitalistically proven formula.
And BBB's absence may also have something to do with MDawg ubiquity and WoV becoming a parody of itself.
When I called her a Cunt, I was just using every cussword I could think of. She was a bitch to me for three years and I politely smiled for three years before finally had enough and went off on her that day shortly after receiving a two day paycut from my job. I apologized multiple times for that one time fed up cussing rant. I was honestly expecting a one month Suspension, not a permanent Nuke. Multiple Posters mentioned they thought my cussing rant warranted a Suspension, not a permanent Nuke. I thought so too.
Admins admitted AFTER my permanent Nuke that they were waiting a long time for a reason to ban me but didn't have a reason to until my one time fed up cussing rant. And that one time fed up cussing rant was the catalyst for my permanent Nuke there.
But she was being a Bitch to me BEFORE I even confessed to being those Socks. I remember her Suspending me for two weeks for supposedly hijacking a thread about a guy trying to hide his Jackpot by talking about Alimony twice. I was actually responding to two different People who brought up Alimony first in that thread. Posters were like,"Uh, she brought up Alimony twice because she responded to two different People who brought up Alimony first. She didn't bring up Alimony first. You've done worse things." The two week Suspension still stuck. I'm still to this day upset with that Alimony two week Suspension. What an unfair Suspension.
I confessed to those Socks because I thought I was supposed to to secure my unbanning. I was desperate back then to be unbanned from WOV and later on I realized that actually confessing to those Socks was the equivalent of confessing to Murder while in Prison and expecting to be set free! Like WTF? Had I not been so desperate for unbanning, I would have kept my mouth shut and not confessed to those Socks.
Gunplay kewj the gay extortionist posted this today about the wizard
“This Shackleford asshole and he sure has turned into the biggest, lying, dishonest asshole I have seen in the gambling community is now completely complicit in this scam of yours. he is in it past his stupid and ridiculous looking ponytail (55 year old man going through a mid-life crisis).
I am through dealing with this lying piece of shit. I wish him nothing but pain and agony, in his life. Now, go ahead, Mdog, go crying to that creepy old bitch and tell him what I said. I just don't give a fuck anymore. You two play whatever game you are playing.”
KJ is both excitable and emotional as opposed to calm and dispassionate; a bit impulsive perhaps but he has a conscience and will sometimes regret something said in the heat of the moment.
We all come at life from a different point of view.
Sure this sounds like it
“I was enjoying some success, but was lonely. The next year, my partner picked up and followed me to Vegas. He left behind even more that I did. He left friends, family, and ex-wife and 3 young sons. Their loss was my gain. We once again became roommates and formed the business partnership I described above”
There will be a loser in this war. I see his play his life what he has done. He may have fooled a semi smart and successful lawyer but he’s not fooling me. He is the worst of the worst. Not because he’s gay because he’s evil
Haven’t really followed the MDAWG thread at WOV for several months, but just took a look and in the past 2 sessions, it looks like they got him for $100k.
Figures lol
I got a laugh how he specifically went to Popeyes for the 59 cent chicken.
A little birdie told me to let Wizard know, via this Website that Kewlj's Suspension ended yesterday. ;)
On Gambling Forums, over a week ago they mentioned that Kewlj was suspended for a week from WOV. A couple of days ago, I thought, "Kewlj's suspension must be over by now." I checked and Kewlj was and still Suspended. WTF! Keep in mind that he is now 3 days overdue. WTF!
But why did you do that? First of all, you do know that you are PERMANENTLY banned there? Permanent as in, FOREVER! Secondly, I think I remember Kewlj said he didn’t want you to stick up for him anymore.
So, why are not you checking in where you’re permanently banned to stick up for someone you’re not supposed to stick up for?
Why would you "love" WoV, given the fact that you were almost universally despised by most posters?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
You caught more shit there than a port-a-potty at the Indy 500.
I wanted to be able to celebrate my Nathan's Corner one year Anniversary which was less than a week away when I got fed up with Beachbumbabs constant harassing and insulting of me. I felt used, played, and manipulated by Wizard who asked me to do things that I did thinking I would be reinstated. I honestly planned to be reinstated and then mentally ignore Beachbumbabs (I actually tried to physically put Beachbumbabs on Ignore when I was an Active member of WOV but it turns out you can't put Admins on Ignore. I planned to be reinstated and get my Nathan's Corner back and put Beachbumbabs as a Persona Non Grata and basically act like she doesn't exist.
Tasha, since you are the unofficial WoV suspension list monitor, and i don't want you getting all in a huff, it looks like my 7 day suspension has turned into permanent. I received a message from Shackleford telling me he has "accepted my resignation". Of course I made no such resignation. :D
Shackleford went on to demand an apology for something I said at gambling forums that he didn't like (and of course Mdawg squealed to him). I will make no such apology. As per the very rules of WoV, they don't consider what is said at other forums. And rightfully so. Why would Shackleford think he can tell people what they can and can't say outside of his little forum? He apparently thinks he is God or something. Despite his own rules I have been banned for 4 years, suspended and now I guess banned a second time, for things said on other forums. :rolleyes:
Well fuck him! Not only will I not apologize, I will double down by linking and posting it here. Take that Shackleford, you insecure peice of shit!
This post was responding to Mdawg.
https://www.gamblingforums.com/threa...06#post-145144Quote:
Originally Posted by KewlJ, post: 145144, member: 502
So Shackleford, if you are reading and I am quite sure you are, I don't give a fuck about your little dying (and it is) forum anymore. It is 180 degrees from what it was when I joined. It isn't a forum based on math nor truth nor reality. It is in fact a scam site, where people like Mdawg come to lie and scam, and you protect them, having been paid off. You are now part of that scam
I should have never returned to WoV. It is not the forum I was wrongly banned from. And having returned, I should have left when Shackleford started protecting a bullshitter like Mdawg. And I certainly should have left when Shackleford said nothing after Mdawg repeatedly doxed a fulltime AP. While that occurred on other forums, Shackleford was made aware of it and his response was he didn't care what happened on other forums. And yet, I have been banned, suspended and I guess banned again for things said on other forums. What a hypocrite and low life you are shackleford. "The great wizard of odds!" What bullshit. Fuck off and die, you insecure little man.
Can you imagine a Las Vegas forum where the moderators have spent almost no time in Las Vegas, so they have no actual idea what they're talking about? And the flagship poster claims he's won 50 out of 52 baccarat sessions by reading the flow of cards? And the math guy thinks that betting parlays is a great idea, plus he has a calculator to help you?
And that's the most math-oriented of the gambling forums. LOL. All this time, I thought I won because I was smart. No that's not it. It's because it's all an idiocracy.
I wouldn't say "hurt" Maxpen.
I am very, very disappointed.
Disappointed that there is no longer any kind of "open" gambling forum where an AP can share some of his experiences, (what he is able to share), and read about other players experiences, in a manner that can benefit both and others reading. There are some private type forums, but then I am not really reaching any newer players that might benefit from reading about the real variance and swings of a card counter. So I guess those days of the forums I "grew up with" at the start of my career and learned so much from other more experienced players are gone. Oh well life is full of disappointments right.
The second thing I am very disappointed about is that Shackleford, a guy I had great respect for, SOLD OUT. And there is no other way to put it. This guy who started a forum about the math, so that players could be better players and gamblers, would have never allowed such a scum bag as Mdawg to get away with what he is getting away with and protected him from anyone challenging him. You don't have to take my word for it. You can look back to the precursor to Mdawg and that was Rob Singer. Members, including Shackleford himself, challenged everything Singer claimed, everyday!
There has to be a form of self-policing by membership, otherwise you end up with.....well WoV of Today. :rolleyes: I guess I am just really, really disappointed that once Shackleford cashed the check for selling his forum, he stopped giving a shit about the math and reality and TRUTH that he built his forum on. :(
Now understand, Shackleford is under no obligation, to be that someone that many looked up to and respected. He has every right to turn into a scamming, lying shithead. But I am free to voice my opinion about that too. :cool: