Challenge to KJ over Singer

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Originally Posted by unowme

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by coach belly

My understanding is Rob was referring to Kane & Nestor using the DUB to cash out other players' winning hands...not their own.

If Rob did not do that, then it would be reasonable for him to suggest that what they did was illegal.

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That is not the way I remember it coach belly. I just looked for it, hoping to pull a coach belly "gottch ya" moment but couldn't find it. I will look again later in the week when I get home. Maybe you can find it and confirm before then, since this is your expertise. :)

However I did find this brief thread talking about the double up feature (not the bug itself but the double up feature). This thread was before the double up bug play became know. Rob has several interesting responses in there that don't seem to fit with someone claiming to have the experience he had with the double up bug/feature. :rolleyes: I suppose his retort will be he was trying to throw everyone off the trail. ;) This stuff make Zero sense.

Gotta Jet. will check back later.

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...deo-poker-game

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In that thread Rob states "This happened in the early part of the 2000's--prior to Harrahs being the giant it is today." Obviously his inadvertent double up at Harrah's happened well before Rob discovered the Double Up flaw. Allegedly.

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But he was talking about it in 2011 and stated that he no longer used double-up since then because it's a sucker bet.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

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Maybe Grandpa Newell was high on the drying glue fumes after spending a night or two in his new Newell. Seeing as to how he posted that in the latter part of 2011.

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Referring to an incident in the early 2000's.

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I read the dates wrong

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Well you are right that he did write that in 2011 and would have known about the flaw. But come on. What would you expect him to say. "Oh I've made millions exploiting the double up feature". Hell, the statute of limitations clock just barely started to tick. He's obviously trying to steer people away from discovering the bug too.

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That is not the way I remember it coach belly. I just looked for it, hoping to pull a coach belly "gottch ya" moment but couldn't find it. I will look again later in the week when I get home. Maybe you can find it and confirm before then, since this is your expertise. :)

However I did find this brief thread talking about the double up feature (not the bug itself but the double up feature). This thread was before the double up bug play became know. Rob has several interesting responses in there that don't seem to fit with someone claiming to have the experience he had with the double up bug/feature. :rolleyes: I suppose his retort will be he was trying to throw everyone off the trail. ;) This stuff make Zero sense.

Gotta Jet. will check back later.

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...deo-poker-game

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In that thread Rob states "This happened in the early part of the 2000's--prior to Harrahs being the giant it is today." Obviously his inadvertent double up at Harrah's happened well before Rob discovered the Double Up flaw. Allegedly.

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But he was talking about it in 2011 and stated that he no longer used double-up since then because it's a sucker bet.

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Bingo. in 2011 he was claiming that he hadn't played the doublup feature in a decade. Oddly, he was telling the truth. Inevitably he will now say he was trying to throw people off the trail, which makes no sense.

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Referring to an incident in the early 2000's.

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I read the dates wrong

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Well you are right that he did write that in 2011 and would have known about the flaw. But come on. What would you expect him to say. "Oh I've made millions exploiting the double up feature". Hell, the statute of limitations clock just barely started to tick. He's obviously trying to steer people away from discovering the bug too.

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Kane and Nestor were busted in 2009

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Originally Posted by unowme

In that thread Rob states "This happened in the early part of the 2000's--prior to Harrahs being the giant it is today." Obviously his inadvertent double up at Harrah's happened well before Rob discovered the Double Up flaw. Allegedly.

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But he was talking about it in 2011 and stated that he no longer used double-up since then because it's a sucker bet.

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Bingo. in 2011 he was claiming that he hadn't played the doublup feature in a decade. Oddly, he was telling the truth. Inevitably he will now say he was trying to throw people off the trail, which makes no sense.

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Just yet another hole in the block of swiss. Actually this block of cheese seems to consist mostly of hot air. Plus the heat exposure has pretty much just made it a gooey mess. Starting to resemble whatever that mess is on Man Servant Mickey's chin.

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I read the dates wrong

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Well you are right that he did write that in 2011 and would have known about the flaw. But come on. What would you expect him to say. "Oh I've made millions exploiting the double up feature". Hell, the statute of limitations clock just barely started to tick. He's obviously trying to steer people away from discovering the bug too.

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Kane and Nestor were busted in 2009

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Exactly. 2011 was Rob's quite time. He couldn't tell anyone about the bug for fear of being busted like Kane and Nestor. Heck, he couldn't even comment on it much later when the bug was first discussed here. But after he was in the clear, he had to spill the beans. It all holds together.

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Well you are right that he did write that in 2011 and would have known about the flaw. But come on. What would you expect him to say. "Oh I've made millions exploiting the double up feature". Hell, the statute of limitations clock just barely started to tick. He's obviously trying to steer people away from discovering the bug too.

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Kane and Nestor were busted in 2009

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Exactly. 2011 was Rob's quite time. He couldn't tell anyone about the bug for fear of being busted like Kane and Nestor. Heck, he couldn't even comment on it much later when the bug was first discussed here. But after he was in the clear, he had to spill the beans. It all holds together.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

Kane and Nestor were busted in 2009

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Exactly. 2011 was Rob's quite time. He couldn't tell anyone about the bug for fear of being busted like Kane and Nestor. Heck, he couldn't even comment on it much later when the bug was first discussed here. But after he was in the clear, he had to spill the beans. It all holds together.

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Unowme, are you familiar with the term "anything you say can and will be used against you"? Anyone who puts themselves in a position that they even have to have a "quiet time" waiting for statute of limitation on something illegal or they believe is illegal, isn't saying anything during that quiet time. Well unless they are an idiot.

Rob keeps telling us that he is a public figure, meaning his real identity is known. If he is in a "quiet time" for something he thinks is illegal, he shouldn't be saying anything on a public forum, lease of all anything even mildly associated with the very topic of his possible crime.

The fact that he was even posting on any public forum in 2011, 2012, any of those years, to me pretty clearly says this story that he came up within the last year is complete BS. No one in their right mind would be saying anything, much less be posting on a public forum.

MaxPen is correct the pieces do not fit. Never have. Individually, a person can come of with excuses for all these different pieces that don't fit, but when you step back and take a collective look, you realize the pieces don't fit because they aren't even the correct pieces to the puzzle. Try putting a jigsaw puzzle together with the wrong pieces. :D That's what we have here.

Rob was also busy on the day he bought the Newell sending Alan royal flush pics:rolleyes:

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...ckpots/page182

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The fact that he was even posting on any public forum in 2011, 2012, any of those years, to me pretty clearly says this story that he came up within the last year is complete BS. No one in their right mind would be saying anything, much less be posting on a public forum.

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So you want us to believe that Rob Singer is in his 'right mind'? I don't think so.

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Rob was also busy on the day he bought the Newell sending Alan royal flush pics:rolleyes:

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...ckpots/page182

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WoW! All the black knight has left now is to try to bleed on his enemies. :D

Elvis has left the building. (in a Winnebago mini)

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Originally Posted by unowme

So you want us to believe that Rob Singer is in his 'right mind'? I don't think so.

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If I can be serious about this for a second. You get caught up in the moment and maybe get to close to see it, but I do have serious questions about this.

Earlier tonight while I was looking for the comment from about 2012-2013 discussion that I couldn't find, you just read through all the titles of different threads started by Rob. Not even getting into the threads but just the titles and you realize the guy isn't right. Something seriously wrong with him.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

Rob was also busy on the day he bought the Newell sending Alan royal flush pics:rolleyes:

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...ckpots/page182

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I'm sorry. What am I supposed to see on this page that you linked to?

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Originally Posted by AndrewG

I'm sorry. What am I supposed to see on this page that you linked to?

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Page 1. "Alan" started that thread and Rob responded, posting a picture on the very day he was supposed to be in Oregon buying the Newell RV.

I know, I know....the internet is everywhere, but not likely he was posting those pictures of winning royals if he was not home. Especially since he commented about how much trouble he was having posting them.

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I'm sorry. What am I supposed to see on this page that you linked to?

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Page 1. "Alan" started that thread and Rob responded, posting a picture on the very day he was supposed to be in Oregon buying the Newell RV.

I know, I know....the internet is everywhere, but not likely he was posting those pictures of winning royals if he was not home. Especially since he commented about how much trouble he was having posting them.

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The best is post #23 on the 22nd where he is talking about having great judgement a few days before which would be the 19th.

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...ull=1#post9420


Grandpa Newell is pretty much eviscerated at this point.

As much as I hate it. I'm thinking the game is over.

RIP.....Rob.Singer,,,,,forevever to be remembered as the man that could not tell a truth. AKA Grandpa Newell, Black Knight, and many more names to come. I'm sure.

I had a lot of fun this week. Looking forward to the casinos getting back open.

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Originally Posted by unowme

So you want us to believe that Rob Singer is in his 'right mind'? I don't think so.

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If I can be serious about this for a second. You get caught up in the moment and maybe get to close to see it, but I do have serious questions about this.

Earlier tonight while I was looking for the comment from about 2012-2013 discussion that I couldn't find, you just read through all the titles of different threads started by Rob. Not even getting into the threads but just the titles and you realize the guy isn't right. Something seriously wrong with him.

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It's kind of obvious.

"Narcissistic personality disorder is a mental condition in which people have an inflated sense of their own importance, a deep need for excessive attention and admiration, troubled relationships, and a lack of empathy for others. But behind this mask of extreme confidence lies a fragile self-esteem that's vulnerable to the slightest criticism."

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20366662

He's not the only one here with those symptoms but luckily it's not contagious.

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I'm sorry. What am I supposed to see on this page that you linked to?

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Page 1. "Alan" started that thread and Rob responded, posting a picture on the very day he was supposed to be in Oregon buying the Newell RV.

I know, I know....the internet is everywhere, but not likely he was posting those pictures of winning royals if he was not home. Especially since he commented about how much trouble he was having posting them.

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The best is post #23 on the 22nd where he is talking about having great judgement a few days before which would be the 19th.

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...ull=1#post9420


Grandpa Newell is pretty much eviscerated at this point.

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It would be fantastic, to get his all time greatest rival/nemesis Archimedes, to chime in with his take on Singer, being covered in dung upto his eyeballs. I'm sure if aware, he's relishing this moment....Arci if reading, your opinion would be welcomed.

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It would be fantastic, to get his all time greatest rival/nemesis Archimedes, to chime in with his take on Singer, being covered in dung upto his eyeballs. I'm sure if aware, he's relishing this moment....Arci if reading, your opinion would be welcomed.

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Absolutely! Arci, if you are reading, you are more than welcome to join in the celebration. You earned that. :)

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Rob stated "what Kane and Nestor did was illegal and they should go to jail". No one, and I mean no one having done that play would have stated that.

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My understanding is Rob was referring to Kane & Nestor using the DUB to cash out other players' winning hands...not their own.

If Rob did not do that, then it would be reasonable for him to suggest that what they did was illegal.

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Why wouldn't you just keep your mouth shut and not comment at all? Even he himself said he wasn't sure what he did was illegal or not.
He's brave enough to make that comment but not brave enough to keep a shred of evidence even hidden away to where it's impossible to find until he needed it?

Not Rob or anyone can deny that he is the kind of guy that loves attention and goes to Great Lengths to prove he's done something spectacular. Residence now he actually has a chance and he doesn't? That's one of the biggest things to me that doesn't make any sense.