Stop pulling a Dime and Boz, PV. Time to make a comeback here and especially PFA BLOAT thread. Even Pickleball is AWOL :)
Printable View
One of the mods suffered a medical ordeal, and Bob was called out for being disrespectful. I looked it up. Guy had a heart attack and some other stuff, but he's a multi-decade chain smoker. What exactly did you expect?!?
Which got me wondering, do you have any funny stories about people dropping dead at a place of gaming?
Sadly I can't recall anything up close. Recently I was playing at a non-smoking bar, and a little old lady went down as she was passing behind me. I only saw the reactions of the people seeing her, so I assumed the worst. But she said she was okay. They wouldn't let her stand until the security convention arrived, but after that she got up and walked away. Bartender said the lady has done it before after a drink or two.
In a poker game in Blackhawk, Colorado I saw and old man keel over dead in the middle of a poker hand. The next day in a different poker room I told the player's what happened. The first quick question was
"What was he holding?"
A man fell to the floor of what appeared to be a heart attack at the Pioneer in Laughlin. They worked on him pretty hard then the paramedics hauled him off. I later asked a security guard if they were able to revive the man. He said:
"No, he'll die on the way to the hospital."
"How do you know?" I asked.
"To much paper work if he dies here" he said.
I spent the winter of 97/98 in Vegas. Drove up from the south through the Hoover Dam, on my way in, around 7, 8, or 9 pm, totally dark behind the mountains, (but, north through Utah, on my way out.) There was a television report, the next day, about an accident on that road, something about a truck driver, and his daughter, going over the edge of the road, that one of them died. The next day, on Las Vegas Boulevard somewhere around the Frontier, which was on strike then, I guess a bit further down, one of my first impressions of Vegas was that the boulevard was dangerous because of the palm trees that blocked the view of the road while starting to walk across. Anyway, very shortly after, I went into one of the little convenience stores, with a couple of hotdogs for a $1, and those free coupon books for match play, etc, to use a phone to call home. I sort of looked out the window, and, wondered what was going on. Someone told me that someone got hit by a car, and, died(?) after trying to cross the road. The start of a strangely interesting winter. Experiences with people from all over the States in there, in terms of gangs, prostitutes, drug addicts, conmen, crazy persons ... you name it, but, lots of otherwise helpful ones, too.
I cross the street during high traffic because I'm a gambla.
LilredRooster aka HalfSmoke went on an out-of-control gaijin
run where he insulted DarkOz, MDawg, the Wizard, and the forum in general.
He does that every few months.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiKXcHyGMM8
The movie clips tells me Mdawg lives in a fantasy world. Of course his posts probably told everyone that before we even got to the first movie clip.
The repeating of troll tactics like the red "tilt" sign, tells me Mdawg is a professional troll, just like Rob. We are starting to see re-runs just like Rob. With Rob he will troll me with some remark, when he used the exact same line on mickeycrimm 4 years ago and on Arci 7 or 8 years ago. Word for word. It is like watching a rerun of a show from the 70's or 80's. And now Mdawg is starting to do the same thing.
AxelWolf is a hypocrite, which is another trait he shares with UNKewlJ.
Over here he advises UNKewlJ not to to get "deep down in the gutter mud slinging and mud raking" with racism, antisemitism and such, and then over at WOV he starts comparing people to Hitler.
A real couple of winners. You may take people off the streets but you can't take the street out of them.
if you have some way to contact the moderator, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la_APFDUfLw
You could always just stay away from WOV for two weeks, suspended or not.
There’s More loyalty in the street then the business, or AP community.
First generation from the streets/poverty creates the wealth. The Second generation enjoys it , and the third generation destroys it. Rinse and repeat .: this is why the majority of millionaires are self made first generation. The struggle is needed
I still can't look away from paigower at VF. In the last several weeks, he's net + $millions. He's had a couple of losing sessions, but no losing days afaik. The good sessions go straight up. In the bad sessions, he digs a hole but then recovers to finish ahead.
I wish I could have that kind of luck playing Caveman Keno.
He's talking about, for example, J Paul Getty III, John Du Pont, Max Factor heir Andrew Luster, and so on. There are those who are born into it and then end up dysfunctional and squander what they are given. You see that sort of thing a lot in Los Angeles / Beverly Hills, but even most of those trust fund kids who are partying their lives away tend to settle down and excel eventually.
Over all though, you can't say that someone who had all the privileges and didn't have to work through college (and got to go to college in the first place) and so on, is necessarily going to achieve less than someone who got no breaks.
Let's just look at UNKewlJ for example. Broken home. Kicked out of the house and rejected by his own family. Homeless for a time. No education to speak of. Look at how he ended up. Self Loathing a-hole fits him pretty well.
People who have the resources to not have to work for day to day living expenses is one of the greatest factors in a startup being successful.
Dan was like,"Tasha, it's fine if you rant about WOV, just do it in the WOV thread." I still feel betrayed by WOV, I feel that I was treated like trash for three years and then thrown out like yesterday's trash over one fed up cussing rant when I should have been supported. I then was made a fool by doing everything asked of me to do in hopes of being reinstated and I am still banned to this day. I feel used, played, manipulated, strung along, treated like a damn fool. I still feel betrayed by WOV to this day.
It's about time that you, an asexual individual, get to experience what we sexually active homonids deal with daily in our endless search for love.
Some say you need to kiss a shit-load of frogs before finding a prince but hey, I agree with you: who the hell wants to kiss frogs?
I know many Boz's. I know a reasonable Boz, I know a raving lunatic Boz, I know a ratfink Boz.
Some people you may say pretty much anything to about them they just shrug it off. The ones who get bent out of shape over it are at a minimum not entirely stable.
Whether he wants to 'fess up or not, the Wolf is on some kind of prodigious bender. He's slyly mischievous and bent sarcastic almost always, but this out of control Greek tragedy is way beyond the pale.
Nobody owes you anything on an internet board, regardless how you act. They don't come with contracts. So, it's pretty dumb to try to build up any "brand", but your own. Or, to complain about them. Let alone doxx yourself, like Red did. And, the old rule of thumb about not per se making online friends, let alone meeting them. "Let it be written, so let it be done", to free yourself up to learn something, especially about yourself.
Oh, wow! 69 online guests in thread. Makes me wonder about the half dozen in the lesser threads.
I REALLY don't like Beachbumbabs. I honestly wish I never "met," her. She's a complete Bitch who harassed and insulted me for three years while I smiled politely until one day four years ago snapping on her good in that one time cussing rant. I don't regret what I said to her, I regret being banned over it. She's a fucking bitch who should have been demodded a long time ago.
"I'll NEVER forget when I asked her for help when other Posters were attacking me and I thinking she was a NORMAL Admin asked her for help, thinking she was going to say something like,"You guys attacking Nathan need to stop. She's upset and honestly, I don't blame her. I would be upset too if you guys were attacking me. Knock it off." Instead, what did this BITCH do? She basically was like,"Suck it up and grow up, or I will ban you! " I was the VICTIM who asked her for help! What a FUCKING BITCH! I had no idea how nasty she was when I went to her for help.
I honestly should have went to Mission 146 for help who was actually nice to me, not that FUCKING BITCH BBB. Posters were like,"What kind of nasty Admin threatens to ban a VICTIM who asked her for help? I can't believe she said that to a BULLIED VICTIM WHO ASKED HER FOR HELP."
I should have known she had it out for me when she suspended me for two weeks for the couple of alimony posts. About 5 people brought up Alimony. I directly responded to two different people who brought up Alimony first.
That FUCKING BITCH was like,"You have hijacked this thread that is about a guy asking a complete Stranger to claim his Jackpot for him and they'd split the jackpot, and mentioned alimony twice. This thread has nothing to do with alimony. You are suspended for two weeks. "
I honestly thought she was talking about the other people who brought up Alimony first. I was like,"I wonder who got suspended for two weeks for bringing up Alimony. I know it's not me because I didn't bring it up first, five other people brought it up first, and I responded to two of them.
I went on another thread and tried to do a reply but I couldn't. I was like,"Huh, that's strange. WOV must be glitching. I then went back to the Jackpot Thread and I then realized in horror that I was the one who was suspended for two weeks for supposedly hijacking the Jackpot Thread by bringing up Alimony twice. I was stunned!
That FUCKING BITCH even went as far as to only quote MY responses, making it look like I brought up Alimony out of nowhere. FUCKING BITCH! Posters were like,"This two week Suspension is one of the most unfair Suspensions I have ever seen. Nathan didn't deserve a two week Suspension, she didn't hijack anything. She brought up Alimony twice because she was responding to two different people who brought it up first. You've done worse things. You owe Nathan an immediate reinstatement and a full apology for this unfair two week Suspension."
The unfair two week Suspension still stuck. When I was reinstated after serving a FUCKING TWO WEEK SUSPENSION that I didn't deserve, Posters were like,"Nathan's a LOT stronger than I am to come back. I would have permanently left after that unfair two week Suspension for supposed hijacking with Alimony." I am STILL upset about the unfair two week Suspension for supposedly hijacking a thread with Alimony.
When she once again unfairly accused me of hijacking a thread again
Quote: Nathan
Wow! Me and Poker Grinder are actually on the same page! Mr. Casino Games, listen to PG and I. It only takes a few seconds or minutes to tell your thoughts and feelings about the links you put.
Boz said,
Better watch or his next travel adventure will be to Sunny South Florida!
I replied
It's a lot warmer in South Florida in the Winter than it is in The Great White North(Canada)where he is from. In fact, South Florida is a lot warmer than ALL Northern States\North North America. There are ONLY 5 places in North America hotter than South Florida in The Winter ....The few places hotter than SF are Phoenix, Las Vegas(Home of WOV, and a meetup city for many WOV Fans ;) San Antonio, Riverdale, Tucson.
That FUCKING BITCH replied
Go back to your corner and stop hijacking this thread!
That's when I finally had enough of this FUCKING BITCH and replied
This post right here is the final straw. BBB, I am so sick of you and your bullshit. You're an asshole. You're condescending, a female douchebag, a Cunt, female prick, an ass. Fuck you and your constant harassing and insulting of me. I am tired of having to suck up to you and smile politely just because you are a Mod and because of the Keep It PG Rule, when I've been wanting to tell you off and rip you a new one for a very long time. There isn't a "Fuck you," button which I would have used on your last very unneeded post towards me. I actually was about to cuss you out in the other thread that you accused me of hijacking, called Harassment. You accused me of hijacking a thread that had my NAME in the OP! I was talked out of cussing you out, but you doing this shit towards me again warrants the cussing out I should have done in the Harassment thread days ago.
It didn't help that I had gotten a two day Suspension from my job and went to WOV for solace only for that FUCKING BITCH to once again unfairly accused me of hijacking a thread. That was the final straw and I finally gave that FUCKING BITCH a good punch right back after she used me as a FUCKING punching bag for three FUCKING YEARS. Use someone as a FUCKING punching bag for three FUCKING YEARS and don't be surprised if you get a good punch right back. I don't regret FINALLY telling that FUCKING BITCH off, I regret that it got me banned.
Wizard told me to apologize to that FUCKING BITCH for the cussing rant. I apologized ONLY because I wanted to be reinstated. I planned to apologize, be reinstated and then ask Wizard if there was a way that that FUCKING BITCH would not be able to speak to me anymore. I tried to put that FUCKING BITCH on ignore when I was still an active WOV Member, but I couldn't. Had I been reinstated, I would have asked Wizard to find a way to block BBB from speaking to me. I did NOT want FUCKING BITCH speaking to me.
Wizard also told me to wish that FUCKING BITCH a happy birthday. I did, in hopes of getting reinstated. I did NOT want to wish that FUCKING BITCH a happy birthday! I don't like that FUCKING BITCH, why would I want to wish her a happy birthday? She treated me like trash for three years, FUCK HER! I never got reinstated, and my happy birthday thread got ridiculed.
About me vs that FUCKING BITCH, Wizard himself implied I had solid points in that cussing rant, but said something like,"If I take Nathan's side on this, Beachbumbabs will most likely resign as Admin and she's been a loyal Admin for me for years and I can't risk her resigning as an Admin over this. So, I must uphold her permanent banning of Nathan. " That FUCKING BITCH basically abandoned Wizard the VERY next year anyways. I would have been much more loyal than that FUCKING BITCH! Wizard REALLY played his cards right, so right that that FUCKING BITCH basically abandoned him when he would have had a loyal Poster in me!
I wish I had joined AFTER that FUCKING BITCH basically abandoned WOV. I definitely would have had a much better time!
BBB was a former air traffic controller, which might explain her preference for order and her antipathy toward chaos.
Whatever it is that Tasha brought to WoV, a sense of order was typically absent from her posts.
It was like Tasha was shooting for reaching the "C" and "D" students in an inner-city classroom instead of recognizing she was in a class room filled with intelligent, educated high achievers.
memo to Tasha: "Know your audience."
Tasha's a "million miles away" composing KJ-esque essays (which nobody reads) about another essentially meaningless incident from many years ago. People move on, die, etc, but, yeah, Tasha, you really "fixed her wagon", got her good. Ha. Tasha, you ought to be asking about what the heck is wrong with you, and, say, Freddy, who suffers from the same "telephone" affliction.
This rant just proves you LIED again when you said you were over this. And LIED when you begged to have your post limit removed.
Nothing racist here, just pointing out you are a LIAR no different than KJ. And Dan fell for your crying, so credit to you for suckering him into it.
That all said, every forum needs a retard to make things interesting. I believe Axel and others offered to pay you to take an IQ test years ago. And we offered to fly her to Vegas for the test, but it can be done via Zoom as well. I’ll bet he can talk the Wizard into reinstating you IF you agree to take one now. Maybe even MDawg can get involved since he also has the Wizards ear. Let’s make this happen and we can definitely make this worth your while if we all pitch in. Win/win, you get what you always wanted, being allowed back at WoV.
And since she “blocked” me, can someone repost this so she sees it.
Yikes, I don't remember that. Are you sure I was involved in offering anything that involved her taking an IQ test? That doesn't sound like me. I don't think we need that given what we know.
Perhaps it was something else?
I mess with Tasha but, I don't think she takes it seriously given previous PMs. If she asked me to stop, or I thought it seriously bothered her. I absolutely would. There's no doubt she is special, so whatever drives and compels her shenanigans just can't be controlled.
It absolutely was a point of discussion years ago when she first appeared under Nathan or Kendry, I’m sure I can look it up. Back in the days of the challenges that actually happened, it was discussed bringing it out to Vegas during a nugget challenge along with an IQ test for it. Multiples of us (maybe not your cheap ass ��) offered to pitch in but you definitely wanted to bet on the outcome. I’m thinking you said she was on the scale but I don’t remember the exact number but you suggested but somewhere around 75 for an O/U.
And it’s when it said they never were outside Miami. I remember it like yesterday.
CHEAP ASS? You must have me confused with all the Jews around here.
During the times I am being cheap, I prefer the term strategically frugal Advantage Play. I.E. returning items to the store after using.
I just can't believe that Dan managed to get those Big Hoover Tasha lips around his shmuckless cock before you did.
Tasha is really one of the better posters on here. I'm not speaking to her as a person but in this circus of a forum she holds her corner steady.
Adversity as a child is pretty good indicator. So good the CIA considers it a plus and essential. This is well documented.
Were talking the right kind of adversity. Not neighbor guy making you ride him bareback reverse cowgirl style like Kewj had done to him.
It was AZDuffman that blew up BBB. She was laying down typical illogical liberal bullshit after illogical liberal bullshit. Duffman calmly and methodically destroyed all her arguments. She did what liberals typically do in that spot, got pissed to high heaven. She started hurling insults at him. Shack had to intervene and scold her for doing exactly what she was moderating against. All Shack ever got out of her was "I acknowledge what you are saying." She never admitted to what she did.
She knew right then she was through with the forum. She would just give it a little time then disappear. And that's what she did.
When you destroy a liberal's arguments they always get pissed. Start hurling insults like you're racist, homophobe, etc. What they are really pissed about is they know deep down inside that liberalism is illogical. And it tears them to pieces. They hate you for pointing out the fallacies they espouse. That's what happened to BBB.
I remember BBB saying something like,"You are stinky pond scum!" To AzDuffman and Wizard saying something like,"You have crossed the line , BBB. I am appalled that you insulted AzDuffman. As an Admin, you are held to a higher standard. You deserve to be demodded for the unacceptable insulting you did to AzDuffman, but you have been such a loyal Admin for me, so I will NOT be demodding you, but in most cases, you would have been demodded."
Tasha,
Thanks for the kind mention. I'm not sure what instance you're talking about (or with what handle), but I'm pretty sure that you were still posting (in one of your iterations) at the time that I was no longer an Admin. That being the case, there would have been nothing I could do for you anyway.
For anyone who would suggest Tasha is a complete idiot, it seems to me that one of Tasha's main goals is to garner interactions. It seems that she has been successful in achieving that goal for damn near a decade, and if the responses to her post in this thread are any indication, continues to be successful in achieving that goal to this day. Clearly, she's intelligent enough to accomplish that.
Of course, I don't agree with the language used and consider it pretty unfair to BBB, but Tasha already knows that. Naturally, I would have had sufficient cause to justify Nuking Tasha myself, when I was an Admin, but I had no real desire to do so. Quite frankly, that so many people came to me demanding she be Nuked for even the slightest perceived infractions caused in me negative inclination to Nuke her. Contrary to popular belief, I didn't Nuke people on an on-demand basis.
I do think Tasha likes to troll, but for the most part, when she does, she's not actually hurting anything. I recall that she would often make mathematically inaccurate statements that would beg for correction, and they were corrected; that's engagement---engagement, in most cases, is a net positive for the forum and adds value.
Honestly, the only Administrative action that BBB ever did that I highly disagreed with was trying to shut down DarkOz when he was discussing something strictly topical to gambling. Neither DarkOz nor the forum have any responsibility not to discuss AP-related things and I find it endlessly amusing that people would get pissed off about such discussions taking place on WoV, but then be part of gambling Twitter, Discord, whatever.
Oh, but there are definitely no casino operatives infiltrating Discord or reading posts on Twitter that are also literally public. lol
If you look at her first posts upon being appointed a moderator, she stated that she intended to moderate with a "light hand." Pretty soon though she was suspending people right and left, and handing down one suspension after another to me. This was back when the automatic Martingale was in effect, so I ended up with a two month sentence at one point.
One of the first suspensions she gave me was over that I mentioned something about watches in the context of that AxelWolf wouldn't know a real from a fake Rolex if it landed in his pint sized glasses of Cap'n Morgan (of course, I didn't say it like that, but I was responding to that he had stated that one of my $75,000. Rolex platinum watches was a fake) and she thought I was belittling anyone who didn't have an expensive watch, when really all I was saying is that AxelWolf didn't know what he was talking about when he said that a watch of mine was not genuine, which is true anyway, AxelWolf is a know it all loudmouth who constantly interrupts people in person and spouts off (at length) whether he knows what he is talking about or not.
She actually nuked me at one point a couple weeks before that two month suspension was due to expire when I was "impostered" :D by a sock puppet, until she realized that I was not the one who made the posts. So that sort of shoot first ask questions later attitude was what she developed, and she definitely was incapable of putting aside her own opinions and biases when moderating.
She must've had some kind of disagreement with either the forum or its policy because she disappeared. I think part of it might have been an over all disagreement with the free speech policy at the forum, as liberal as she claimed to be she couldn't handle that and apparently wanted to guide people's thoughts. No way she could handle threads like EvenBob's for example. She'd be too worried or at least claim to be too worried that such threads would influence people to gamble.
Over all, I didn't have a problem with her even though she suspended me a lot. It is, after all, just an internet forum.
These forums take up a lot of time, and unless you're someone like UNKewlJ who simply cannot stay away even after repeatedly declaring that he will, getting kicked out of a forum could actually be a blessing if you actually stay away and stop spending time at the same type of forum.
Seriously, you are comparing what happens or is allowed at the garbage heaps that are twitter and discord to WoV? Advantage players are in a constant battle with the casinos we play. We don't expect WoV of all forums to be part of that fight destroying opportunities. So, yes, I believe WoV DOES have a responsibility to protect such opportunities by not publishing them.
I can think of at least two times when the man that started that forum, intentionally destroyed opportunities for others. One being the Plaza promotion, where he didn't just mention it, but specifically laid out how to beat it and how much that was worth in terms of profit each hour. The result was the best machines were pulled from that promotion, even before it started.
The second one was personal to me. My brother and I were camped out in Colorado for a couple weeks playing a nice profitable blackjack side bet. Again Wizard posted exactly step by step how to beat that side bet and what it was worth. Almost immediately, I think the next day, the amount allowed to wager on the side bet was reduced by 75%, which all but killed any profit from it.
In both these cases, I believe Wizard decided he wasn't going to play these opportunities, so he killed them for everyone....just because he could. He couldn't just wait until after each had played out and then revealed the math, for the sake of revealing the math.
Intentionally doing this is taking money from players.
How are you using, 'Pretty soon?'
BBB was an Administrator at the same time I was; I resigned from being an Administrator prior to MDawg even joining the forum (Resignation Post: 3/12/18; MDawg Joins: 9/27/18).
"Pretty soon," is definitely a subjective term, but as I recall, BBB was an Administrator as far back as 2014. That being the case, she definitely wouldn't have been Suspending MDawg at any time that most people would describe as, "Pretty soon," after becoming an Administrator.
I can only assume that your second sentence was meant to be two totally separate thoughts.
I have no idea why she disappeared. She made it public knowledge, in 2020, that she was living with her mom and also acting as her caretaker. I have no idea whether or not that is still the case as BBB and I have not directly spoken for some time. Of course, even if I did know, I couldn't reveal information more current than what she has already made public. She was also seeking advice as to what to do with her ex-husband, and obviously, I have no idea what came of that, either. Just prior to those posts, she had mentioned having some physical problems, so I obviously don't know what happened with those.
With that, my last assumption would be that things have significantly improved for her since then, though I certainly hope that they have. Even if they had, it would be a bit difficult, I would think, to just come in and start being an active Admin given that she has made all of ten posts within the last three years. Of course, there's no reason she couldn't (if she wanted) as I gather she is still considered an Admin in good standing.
Anyway, her disappearance coincides with all of those posts she made re: the issues she was having, so I suspect it had little, or nothing, to do with policy. I obviously don't know. The whole thing with DarkOz was only a few months before that, but I really shouldn't write about gambling if I am unwilling to accept that coincidences sometimes happen. My opinion is that she wanted to shut DarkOz down as a sort of AP protectional thing, but what the fuck kind of gambling forum is it if people can't freely discuss gambling stuff?
Remember, Posters also stood up for you saying they didn't think you were the Imposter, and Posters pointed out that you were actually driving from Nevada to California when the Imposter was active. Posters were like,"I wouldn't be posting on a Website if I'm driving from Nevada to California! I'd be too focused on not getting into a car accident!' One Poster even gave a VERY hard hitting question,"So does this mean that Axelwolf can get a two month Suspension and some Imposter can pretend to be Axelwolf a d the Admin's will blindly permanently ban Axelwolf?" BBB did research and found out that some random guy had been impersonating you on multiple websites and she admitted the Admins got played and reversed the permanent banning and the imposter remained permanently banned.
I apologize for missing this post, somehow.
First of all, there's a bit more to it than just Twitter and Discord.
You see, when I got raked over the coals, it was for Nuking a post (not the poster) that linked to a site that Doxxed, in particular, WoN/SAP's wife. Naturally, Doxxing anyone is not permitted on the site, so that is a pretty clear cut rule that I had to uphold. For upholding this rule, in the context of being a Forum Admin, many individuals (some AP's) raked me over the coals.
Fast forward a little under two years and DarkOz makes his posts describing plays. I strongly suspect that some AP's, probably some of the same ones who went after me on the SAP/WoN thing, got in BBB's ear about shutting DarkOz down. I wouldn't be shocked if I were to discover that BBB was in on some plays as I understand she was dappling in all of that---which I gather from Monet's posts here. If that is the case, which I don't know, she'd have also been shutting DarkOz down out of selfish motivations to preserve future opportunity for financial gain for herself. In other words, nothing legitimately to do with Forum Rules or policy whatsoever.
As you may or may not recall, some of these same individuals who I suspect of getting in BBB's ear also attempted (though within the rules) to discredit DarkOz at every opportunity. This had been going on for a year, if not more, though I am sure they would describe it as, "Just fucking with him." BBB came up with some half-baked argument about not sharing info on plays for revenge, as if that would somehow violate any Forum Rules, and, it would seem, started to go after DarkOz on that basis.
Not being an Administrator, I have no idea what put an end to that. I will say that DarkOz' story (both of the play and personal) was interesting enough, and he seemed willing enough to discuss it, that it would make for a good article in my series of articles I was writing at the time. With that, I asked if he would be willing to do that and he was.
So, basically you end up with I think BBB going after DarkOz for pressure that I believe she was getting behind the scenes to shut him up...though I could be wrong about that. If there was such pressure behind the scenes, to get her to Nuke DarkOz for some rule that she had just made up off of the top of her head that you can't discuss AP for revenge purposes, then I imagine it came from some of the same people who wanted to come after me for, God forbid, actually having the audacity to enforce clear Forum Rules.
Which of course makes all involved hypocrites, at least, if all of my suspicions are accurate. I'm really not surprised that some would be hypocrites. That said, I do understand the actions, and logic behind the actions, as it relates to all parties involved. Personally, were I DarkOz, I'd have started singing long before that---don't piss me off. The only reason that I don't talk about as much stuff as I could theoretically talk about is because many on the AP side of things have been kind and reasonable to me.
I really don't give a shit about your opportunities, the opportunities of other AP's or even my own opportunities because I'm not a fucking hypocrite. You either like free speech, or you don't; a statement is either true, or it is untrue. Also, you're the last person who should ever be suggesting that WoV owes you anything whatsoever; should I quote the Collected Encyclopedia Brittanica Full Set's worth of your lifetime posts (everywhere) that trash Wizard personally? What the fuck could the site possibly owe you?
The site has rules. If you're an Admin, then your job is to keep and enforce the rules. There's no rule that says you can't discuss AP, and certainly, AP is sometimes discussed. Perhaps the lesson is that if you treat people reasonably, then they will be less-inclined to publicly disclose the AP playbook. Shit, I almost went into great detail on some stuff out of pure spite, at one point, but I had other people who are AP's to also think about. Just because I wouldn't necessarily share some stuff doesn't mean that others can't.
DarkOz was the first to share the Plaza tax promotion, as I recall. Wizard just analyzed the thing. Wizard actually doesn't publicly disclose nearly as much stuff as he theoretically could. Also, Wizard analyzed it for Video Poker, which was actually far from being the best EV play for that promotion. Dancer said no VP killed it, which I disagreed with him about. Of course, I don't believe I publicly shared what would have been better plays, but I assure you, there are FAR better plays.
So what about you and your brother's play? Did you tip Wizard as to the play and then he published it and analyzed it? You don't fucking own side bets. If he wants to analyze a side bet, then he can analyze a side bet. I'll tepidly agree with you if he heard about the play directly from you.
Besides, you talked, at length, about your card counting experiences and tips for doing that. Is AP allowed to be discussed only on condition that you approve the specific subject matter? Again, hypocrite.
Anyway, just be less greedy and you won't care. If I'm doing something and it gets killed, I really don't give a shit.
Thing is: People think I'm too fucking stupid to put two and two together on these things. It's not that; it's mostly just that I don't care and don't have any particular inclination to harm AP's.
I have the impression that she went dark not too long after some scallywag posted an unflattering picture of her; good lord, what a beast.
lol
This is a big part of why I don't really actively post on other sites. AFAIK I don't have a WOV account. I'm ok with that. Browsing on occasion is enough. I'd rather just be at the uncensored site than put up with the stuff I see describing this BBB person.
Forum moderation is one of those things.. those qualified to do it don't want to fuck with it. Often those who are willing to moderate are often not qualfied.
BBB seemed so humble in her very first post on WOV, she said,"New Member, please be gentle." She did a complete 189 and turned into a power hungry, mean , insulting, harassing, power tripping, tyrant, dictator BITCH. Sad.
Alan was fine, he liked me and he knew I won at the casinos, so saying that he was against anyone who won, is incorrect. He didn't like UNKewlJ, but nowadays, who does? I commented a while back that Boz was sounding more and more like ulp UNKewlJ, and this theory of that anyone against APs is against them because he's jealous, puts him more in line with UNKewlJ.
Alan was just stubborn, and most of us here are the same, some of the older ones more than the rest.
He died. Whether he died with a lot or a little I think he lived his life the way he wanted.
I don’t think what Darkoz likes to run his mouth about should be discussed. First he only talks about things after he gets shut down or his crew (often late to the party) get thrown out, and or shut down. He certainly does it out of spite not to educate or help others, but only for recognition. Most plays in this discipline get ruined when he shows up. He Basically is a complete idiot who’s bravado in the casino destroys lucrative opportunities. I have countless examples over the years how sloppy, and unprofessional he is. No wonder the guy just looks for clout online.
As far as Card counting, and the math on casino promotions these things have been discussed over and over again for years. There are countless books on the subject so I don’t think talking about these things are that big of a deal. I don’t even have a problem with people talking about bonus slots. However when you are openly discussing slot machine gaffs, or procedural flaws at certain casinos I think the mods should remove those things.
DO has nobody nor any "crew".
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but as relates BBB/WoV, the question is whether or not he has the right to discuss it on the Forum---if he chooses.
As far as Forum Rules go, the answer to that question is indubitably yes; how can a gambling forum sanction someone for discussing a subject having directly to do with gambling?
With that, from a standpoint of Forum Administration, there's not really a 'should' or 'should not' as to this matter. Should people be allowed to post about gambling if they follow all other rules? Yes. That's literally why the website exists.
From an AP perspective, I tend to agree with you. At the same time, I enjoyed talking to Darkoz in the interview, which was also good and he can reach out to me to bullshit anytime he wants, as he knows.
The point of the matter is I got all kinds of pressure behind the scenes not to write that series of articles or interview Darkoz---whatever. The difference, at least the difference I suspect, is that people trying to pressure me behind the scenes makes it substantially less likely that I will refrain from the action that they want me to refrain from. The best part of it was that I hadn't ever done any business with many of these people---who are they to tell me what to do? Who are they to cuss me? What the fuck could I possibly owe them? Not to mention that a few of them were the same ones who came at me over the other thing.
All is forgiven on my end now, of course.
Let's assume that he was doing it out of spite---why would he be spiteful? Could it be because everyone on the Forum tried to discredit and take little shots at him, at every opportunity, for over a year? Honestly, in any other context, I'd probably agree with you that he shouldn't have talked about certain things. It's kind of hard to blame him when people are challenging everything he says and trying to make sport of him when he doesn't go into detail; so what did he do? He went into detail. All of a sudden, other APs on the Forum wanted to take him seriously.
As far as destroying the opportunities when he appears, I would have no idea as to any of that. To this day, I've still never worked with him on anything. At this point, I probably wouldn't work with him or anyone. I don't care that much about money and people are too much hassle. Best just to do everything by myself even if it's not as lucrative.
Obviously, I disagree with your position on what the mods should do. If it's gambling related, then it should be allowed to remain. You know, BBB had actually suspended him with an eye towards Nuking him from the Forum---all for discussing gambling matters. I do hope all is well with her, but to call that anything short of an egregious abuse of her position as Administrator would be an understatement, imo. An abuse, I suspect, that was carried out because she caved to pressure behind the scenes---though I could be wrong.
Interesting take.
How did Alan “know” you won? He might have believed your stories of being up overall (which makes him the only one) because they fit his dream of the math being wrong. And he didn’t believe you had any advantage, so hearing you claim to win made you an ally to him.
As for the BS claim I think everyone against AP is jealous, wrong. But I absolutely believe Alan WAS as jealous as they come. It ate him up that others understood math and made money gambling while he lost his fortune over the years because he refused to accept math. Maybe he did live the life he wanted for much of it, but if the last few years were how he planned it, he needed a better life planner because to most it was beyond sad.
You keep trying to link me with KJ so I’ll say it again. The guy is a proven LIAR, so he fits in with you, I and almost everyone else that posts here.
UnKewlJ is mentally ill. You know what has been said about you. So there's that as well.
Based on the different sorts of posts UNKewlJ has made and conflicting ways he interacts with people including in person, UNKewlJ is clearly mentally ill.
One sign of mental illness is inability to recognize it in oneself, where it appears plain as day to others.
And then you claimed that you ratted me out with letters to casinos. UNKewlJ has threatened the same sort of thing. You doxxed me with a name you pulled out a hat, by sending that name to UNKewlJ and to others, and UNKewlJ has run with it doxxing ever since, side by side! with you :)
You seem to like repeating the same things about "dah math" and "who is lying" and such. Seems you can't let go of a talking point, it sticks in your craw for good, same as UNKewlJ.
You have no idea what I am or am not doing in the casinos, and yet you like to draw conclusions, same as UNKewlJ.
The things that people say online about you seem to bother you, same as UNKewlJ - even to the point where you threaten or do this or that if you're disturbed enough (same as UNKewlJ).
You got nuked off WOV after losing control of yourself, same as UNKewlJ.
Might as well just move in alongside baby bro. ;)
Not at all. I’m all good, trust me or don’t.
But I drive you nuts because I see you exactly for what you are. A very thin skinned little man who can’t stand that I, or no one else believes your made up stories of grandeur. You obsess on those who call you out and try and insult them directly or indirectly. You obsess in a way that’s not normal for anyone, let alone a supposed lawyer worth $50 million plus. Again, based on YOUR claims of stocks and bitcoin owned and when you bought it. It’s not normal.
The pictures you posted of all the pills you claim to take on a daily basis might explain some of it, but there is more to it. Something happened to you to make you feel so inferior to others to the point you need to lie to claim to be something you aren’t.
But I’m not going to play your games. It’s exactly what you want and unlike KJ I’m not going to give you your jollies. So go fuck yourself cuck! And THAT’s what others have told me about YOU!
And I’m not accepting the friend request you sent me on here. That will show you!
If anything you or anyone else said bothered me, you'd know.
But it is clear that what people say about you bothers you, and that you are bothered by what people claim about themselves, because you've been driven to nonsense like the ratfinking casino letters, the doxxing, actual actions of a man who is obsessed.
One characteristic you do not share with UNKewlJ is ability to act reasonable at times - with UNKewlJ there is always that tension as he is fighting to maintain composure. You're fine much of time, but clearly not always.
The hypocrisy and Hate of Mdawg.
1.) Mdawg called Boz a liar today, along with stating for the 1000th time that I am a liar. yet no mention of the many lies Mdawg has posted and been caught in, from the "mid 7 figure dollar Las Vegas mansion", to 7 months of winning wiped away with one "about even" statement, to $100- $5000 spreads playing blackjack for 10 straight hours, to winning 50 blackjack hands in a row, to the continuing almost daily accounts of winning every day, while the casinos don't care, to the completely preposterous stuff he continues to repeat, like Male prostitute, and homeless shit. tell us again, who the liar is Mdawg?
This act that Mdawg does is an attempt to demonize someone he doesn't like or has challenged his ridiculous "adventure story". At least both Boz (today) and myself have admitted that we lied at times. I had my reasons. I won't speak for Boz. But this guy Mdog like Singer, continues on with his lies doubling, tripling down when everyone knows they are lying.
2.) Very similarly, Mdawg started calling me mentally ill a couple years ago now. And now others here have followed his lead. Mdawg says this about others like Boz today and Axelwolf and others. Is Mdawg or anyone on this forum qualified to speculate on the mental illness or stability of anyone else? Of course not! This is yet another attempt to demonize those who have dared challenge his ridiculous "story".
Mdawg had been doing this for years now. If you need further proof, just visit that forum that he advertises in his signature and you will see more than a dozen individual threads attacking people (some members here), each bearing the name of someone that dared challenge his story. This demonizing of anyone who dares challenge his claim is his defense.
3.) This week I saw Mdawg attack WoV ex-moderater BBBabs, who I know a number of people don't like. What was pretty remarkable about this was that Mdawg posted word for word things said, years before he bagan posting, or at least began posting as Mdawg. he has done this with me, many times as well, going back to other forums, long before "Mdawg" appeared and quoting things said. Sure someone can go back and read, but why would someone go back and read to put themselves right smack in the middle of that. Clearly this person is not some new-ish member that began posting in 2019. Clearly he is a re-incarnated member, who likely was banned at WoV. I mean isn't this new name-identity, one of the biggest lies of all?
I am sure it hasn't gone unnoticed and is probably welcome by the KJ haters that I have stepped back some from this and other forums. It just isn't worth engaging with people like Mdawg and AinQ on a daily basis. And it changes nothing about me, who I am or what I do, despite anything they make up of say. The lunacy just keeps coming no matter what.
The Dawg shits himself on gambling forums and is surprised that others laugh at him.
Bad Dawg.
I did, but, it gummed up my profile page, in terms of most of it becoming MDawg's posts, and, so, I removed him as friend, which can't mean anything online, anyway. I accept all thus requests, but, ended up rejecting all of the others because of their weird behavior after.
It's pretty dumb this site has a friend request feature when a person can't even like a post...RIP
It's def an RIP situation with UNKewlJ in that he's already dead, but just forgot to lie down.
More evidence of UNKewlJ's lying mentally ill ways. He sees what he wants to see.
I called Boz a few different things today, but not a liar. His misinterpreting Alan's intent doesn't make him a liar.
Assuming "baby bro" exists, schizophrenia must run in their family and be accepted, otherwise anyone reading over his brother's SChiZoPHreNiC UNKewl PYsCHo babble would immediately call the local county psychiatric hospital. It's disturbing to anyone normal to even try to follow the train of his UNKewl thought.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Punkcity
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackhole
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boz
Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
How many pages is the Kewl dossier?
"AxelAss" is a pansy. For all his talk about "I don't care if I get suspended" he bought a pussy ticket from Gordo when Gordo asked him to clarify what he meant in a suspendable post.
Which means then that AWolf's intended meaning is that:
https://i.imgur.com/b2oDeZSh.jpg
because he's afraid (Say 'fraid, AxelWolf, Say 'fraid :D) to say otherwise at WOV.
He's not alone. Lot of these guys, act tough then when asked what their post means, rather than get suspended, give a sly, stupid look and come-on with some double-talk.
Despite your b******* lies/stories on the forums perhaps you are a hell of a guy in real life, I don't know, I'm easy, I like most people, I've had some pretty odd and crazy friends throughout the years. I can count on a few fingers of people that I actually hate.
I generally get along with most people in real life, I'm sure there are people that I rub the wrong way immediately, usually because I've said something offensive, or they're fairly conservative in nature. I've learned I don't give a shit, I don't want to be around those types of people. I don't have the desire or need to have those types of people in my life, I don't care what they have to offer or who they are.
Yes, there you go AGIAN with misquoting/skewing someone's intentions. Please take a screenshot of the entire post he made. Yeah, he's basically calling you a liar and a dumbass.
As usual I know what Ace2 was trying to say, your thinking that you needed to spell it out is why you're Lost in Space and don't even understand the point of my post, but the point is that you were afraid to commit to what you were trying to say at WOV because you bought the punk ticket Gordo handed you.
Another fearful type is lilredrooster who also bought the punk ticket handed to him by Gordo when he declined to clarify which lawyer he was referring to in his little speech. :D
I mean if you're going to write volumes on how you "say what you mean and don't pull punches" then DO IT, don't buy the punk ticket!
Maybe but online you're a sarcastic a-hole. (UNKewlJ on the other hand, is definitely just as much a loser in real life as online, I mean his own family kicked him out of the house for chrissakes.)
Or as Gordo put it, I take no joy in suspending you Axel. I still hope that someday you will learn to play with others. But it's probably not happening . . .