The WoV Thread

V, you're an a-hole about 80% of the time. Does that give anyone at WOV the right to say that to your face? (On the forum I mean...you were told you are an a-hole to your face at a WOV gathering.) After all this time, you still don't get the WOV rules any better than AxelWolf, which part of why you two are suspended constantly.

Plus the fact that you're all wrong about MDawg! My writings aren't self-aggrandizing or filled with brags. Mere casino play session reports. And I've learned something you obviously haven't learned in all your years - how to get people to do what you want them to do, by making them feel or understand that it is in their best interests. How do you think I ever got to where I am today, in all respects? I didn't get here by being dismissed as an a-hole like you.

The point I raised was valid.

Sure, I can be an asshole, and if someone called me that they'd be suspended.

But that isn't what the facts are in the case in question.

I pointed out not that you are an asshole (you are), but that you brag and make self-aggrandizing statements.

Only a myopic narcissist such as you seem to be cannot see that is your modus operandi: "I'm better than you," "Look at my Rolexes" blah blah.

I've had you pegged since day one.

Whether I get suspended isn't real important to me; I simply think Dieter was wrong.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Two solid days of skiing later, I notice that over at WOV MrV is still crying like a baby over his latest suspension.

Funny how a week ago I was in Tahoe, skiing, and he whined after he got suspended, even created a whole thread over here to complain about it, and a week later, still in Tahoe, still skiing, he's still crying like a baby.

What he should concentrate on is refining his powers of concentration, firstly - by getting off the dope (bad stuff, fries the brain). Secondly, by improving reading concentration. Even a doctor, and doctors are notorious for not just poor penmanship but poor writing skills, outdid him in gathering the meaning from a simple Nathan post.

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If you're going to hang out at WoV being drugged out of your mind is probably a good thing. At the very least it will help one not realize so much how lame they are. :D

I really cannot believe actual people have actual time and interests to keep up with this. I try reading a little and give up right away based on the value.

Not much going on with Spike suspended, or, just not posting. The psychotic politics of that place were a non-starter, but, the Wizard's only true contribution, as how to make a pseudo dictatorship look like fun.

I guess, they all thought that they were going to get rich, but, after putting in so much effort to create and market it, the whole thing steadily went down the drain.

Dark Oz: If you are reading, I read with some interest your AP totem pole thread at WoV. I see no mention of card counters. I suspect we would be near the bottom of your hierarchy with the bus hustling and vulturing. Would like to hear just where you see us? :)

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

If you're going to hang out at WoV being drugged out of your mind is probably a good thing. At the very least it will help one not realize so much how lame they are. :D

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Quite right.

Give that man a kewpie doll.

And some Taco Bell "fourth meal" for the munchies.

How sweet it is...

I just don't understand how people don't have a life or hobbies besides commenting in a never ending drama jerkfest.

Spike's been retired, for likely twenty years. He grabbed a lot of information from the internet, but, he never seemed to put any of it together. Posts exactly the same stuff as before.

I was tipped off that I was the subject of some discussion over in the WOV Suspension List thread. Shack said I was banned because I made a death threat and that if I apologized he would consider letting me back on.

First, I was not banned for a death threat. 2nd, I never made a death threat. I was actually banned for what they considered to be a racist statement. I had called some black bastards...black bastards. They accused me of racism and threw me off. Bags of shit.

Subsequent to being banned there, I made a drunken statement here that I would pop a cap in his ass. This is what was construed as a death threat and it was relayed to Shacklepunk.

Where I'm from, Mississippi, this "pop a cap" in someone's ass means you shoot down at their buttock so it's not a kill shot. Then you stand laughing your ass off at the insolent bastard hopping around going "ow! ow! ow! oo! ow!" So it wasn't a death threat.

As for an apology to Shacklepunk? GTFO. Yeah, sure, when I sobered up I regretted what I said. But I've no inclination to kiss Shack's ass to become one of his ass kissing subjects again. Fuck that forum and the pussy motherfuckers on it. Who the fuck wants to hang out with a bunch of fags giving Shack blowjobs all day?

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Originally Posted by theywontpayontuesday

I just don't understand how people don't have a life or hobbies besides commenting in a never ending drama jerkfest.

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You understand that this forum doesn't even have that many posts or posters.... why do you think people spend that much time here?

Not only are you reading this site bur you bother to comment.

Nice self awareness.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

I was tipped off that I was the subject of some discussion over in the WOV Suspension List thread. Shack said I was banned because I made a death threat and that if I apologized he would consider letting me back on.

First, I was not banned for a death threat. 2nd, I never made a death threat. I was actually banned for what they considered to be a racist statement. I had called some black bastards...black bastards. They accused me of racism and threw me off. Bags of shit.

Subsequent to being banned there, I made a drunken statement here that I would pop a cap in his ass. This is what was construed as a death threat and it was relayed to Shacklepunk.

Where I'm from, Mississippi, this "pop a cap" in someone's ass means you shoot down at their buttock so it's not a kill shot. Then you stand laughing your ass off at the insolent bastard hopping around going "ow! ow! ow! oo! ow!" So it wasn't a death threat.

As for an apology to Shacklepunk? GTFO. Yeah, sure, when I sobered up I regretted what I said. But I've no inclination to kiss Shack's ass to become one of his ass kissing subjects again. Fuck that forum and the pussy motherfuckers on it. Who the fuck wants to hang out with a bunch of fags giving Shack blowjobs all day?

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So when are you going back? :D

Now that was a good one.

And made reading the above posts more than worth it.


And wait - so now MCrimm is saying that he called some black bastards - black bastards? And participated in a race riot (which okay so he had to do it - he was in the can - I think I get it - but still why talk about it proudly?).

All that plus the talk about busting a cap in someone’s ass is starting to sound like the main character in Tom McAfee’s This is My Living Room.

The only questionable post I personally read from Mickey on WOV was JuicyJennie saying something like,"I'm going to the Casino tonight and am going to play Poker/Blackjack/Craps."
Mickey responded something like,"Can a old horndog get a date with you soon?"A Poster responded,"Really, Mickey?" Mickey later responded something like,"I was drunk and horny when I wrote that and now that I'm sober and no longer horny, I'm embarrassed at what I asked JuicyJennie."

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

I was tipped off that I was the subject of some discussion over in the WOV Suspension List thread. Shack said I was banned because I made a death threat and that if I apologized he would consider letting me back on.

First, I was not banned for a death threat. 2nd, I never made a death threat. I was actually banned for what they considered to be a racist statement. I had called some black bastards...black bastards. They accused me of racism and threw me off. Bags of shit.

Subsequent to being banned there, I made a drunken statement here that I would pop a cap in his ass. This is what was construed as a death threat and it was relayed to Shacklepunk.

Where I'm from, Mississippi, this "pop a cap" in someone's ass means you shoot down at their buttock so it's not a kill shot. Then you stand laughing your ass off at the insolent bastard hopping around going "ow! ow! ow! oo! ow!" So it wasn't a death threat.

As for an apology to Shacklepunk? GTFO. Yeah, sure, when I sobered up I regretted what I said. But I've no inclination to kiss Shack's ass to become one of his ass kissing subjects again. Fuck that forum and the pussy motherfuckers on it. Who the fuck wants to hang out with a bunch of fags giving Shack blowjobs all day?

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So when are you going back? :D

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I'd sooner pop a cap in Shack's ass than go back on that forum. Does that burn enough bridges for you, stepandfetchit?

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Originally Posted by MDawg

And wait - so now MCrimm is saying that he called some black bastards - black bastards? And participated in a race riot (which okay so he had to do it - he was in the can - I think I get it - but still why talk about it proudly?).

All that plus the talk about busting a cap in someone’s ass is starting to sound like the main character in Tom McAfee’s This is My Living Room.

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You pulled up a 9 year old post I made that was buried in the archives and spread it around the forums. Then you tell me why talk about it? You're the one that used the word "proudly." Not me.

It was the last post you made on the forum. Right or wrong, that's your parting legacy.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

I'd sooner pop a cap in Shack's ass than go back on that forum. Does that burn enough bridges for you, stepandfetchit?

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UNKewlJ on the other hand, would do about about anything to get back on WOV.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En6t5k5_FM4

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Originally Posted by MDawg

UNKewlJ on the other hand, would do about about anything to get back on WOV.

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I left WoV of my own free will (my choice) the last time. My resignation was changed to a nuke about a month after I resigned, I guess making insecure Michael Shackleford feel better. But you can't "fire" someone a month after they have quit. :D This is documented in the suspension list.

That you would lie about something like this that anyone can look up, only further proves to everyone what a liar you are, although I can't imagine there is anyone left that hasn't figured that out with all your fantasy narcistic claims.

While I did want to return after I was so wrongfully banned the first time, and did return with the help of maxpen and axelwolf, I quickly realized WoV is night and day opposite of what it was a math based gambling forum. It is now just another troll type forum with Shackleford allowing ridiculous claims like yours that he never would have back when he cared, prior to the sale. Most real players and APs have left and those that remain express their disgust regularly. And most of that disgust is directed at you, Mdawg. You did most of the damage with your bullshit and narcistic adventure thread. You set out to destroy WoV and make a mockery of Shackleford and have accomplished both.

The reason you were nuked is the same reason you have been banned at other forums...you are a

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Originally Posted by mdawg

thieving lying low down no good varmint.

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And if you were indeed welcome back, you would not have created (yet another) sock puppet, which sealed your fate and got you nuked. THAT is why you were nuked, because you returned to WOV as a sock puppet during (yet another) period when you were not allowed there.

You think creating a sock puppet named Fantasyfiction was anything but me trolling you and saying I don't give a shit about suspensions and bannings. Just as with Eaglesfan and several others I couldn't make it any clearer who I was and am.

And I have news for you sweetie, if I decide I have something I want to say again, I will do so again. :D

Point being, that you lied once again (surprise) about why you were nuked at WOV. It was not because you simply decided to leave and then they decided to nuke you anyway - it is because you broke the rules (yet again) while suspended.


The twenty-six most major UNKewl lies I can think of concern (1) his lie about Moses showing up at a condo he claimed he lived at, (2) a condo it turned out that he has no ownership in and does not even live in, where he can’t even get his story straight about what is and what is not allowed by the condo CCRs, and lies about “renting it out” AirBnB style, (3) his faking his own death, (4) lying about ever having been robbed, (5) the nonsense about MGM execs showing up at his apartment on Halloween to give him player records on someone who isn't even MDawg, (6) the backrooming lawsuit, (7) the lies about news stories being broadcast about the backrooming incident, lies about the fictional settlement related to the fabricated incident, (8) the lie about being doxxed, or ever having his name placed in any casino database, (9) the rigged shuffler, (10) $50. free play for $100K win on a slot progressive, (11) $50K multi hand VP hit, (12) winning a car, (13) the lie about never asking anyone else to prove anything, (14) the lie about knowing attorney Nersesian well or at all, and having him on "speed dial," (15) lies that made it clear that he has never filed taxes as a professional gambler, (16) fabricated sports bets, (17) lies about that he has calculated his exact "expected win" over a decade and a half period, (18) lies about ever playing blackjack other than red green chip action as cover for a sugar daddy hustle, (19) lying about how “many” APs know him, (20) lies about how “many” APs have offered to “hire him” for their blackjack teams, (21) lying and claiming that he has never told others how they should post and about what, (22) lying about never posting again about this or that or on this or that forum, (23) lying about why he was nuked from WOV, trying to imply that he left on his own accord, (24) lies about the "oily" surfboard, (25) lied about whether or not he was gay, (26) the lie about even having a dead "soul mate" which he recanted.

That rigged shuffler story, besides not making any sense, reaffirmed in my mind that this guy really doesn't play much table games, because I'd expect such nonsense from a recreational player, not a card counter.

And as usual, as he gets hemmed in, he is changing the story on some of these. Even renounced the existence of his "soul mate" claims he lied about him and his gay marriage too!

P.S.

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Originally Posted by Seedvalue

No one should take your advice regarding blackjack, because you haven’t proven to be an expert. Literally they should do the opposite of what you say. I’m not your sweetheart either

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Dude, you listing these things and/or not believing them doesn't make them lies. Not a one of these things listed has been proven as anything except you are deranged. And some of it is just plain silly.

I'll give you an example. Renting out my condo tomorrow through next Tuesday over Superbowl weekend. You think because the HOA doesn't approve of this, that makes it untrue? In this complex, come late spring and summer during the WSOP, about 1/4 of the units are rented out short term to poker players and enthusiasts. This building is like WSOP central. And every single one of these short-term rentals violates or conflicts with HOA rules and guidelines.

As is so often the case, what you want to be, conflicts with what is reality. Everything you write is some jealousy induced deranged alternative reality. I hope it is all a game, but I suspect you are really detached from reality.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

At this point anyone who thinks FraudJ represents anything truthfully or factually correct is a fool.....RIP

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Originally Posted by MDawg

And wait - so now MCrimm is saying that he called some BLACK BASTARDS....

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Wow, MDoogie! You're a racist too? Well, I guess that is your legacy now. You better hope no one reports this to Shack. He doesn't like anyone using racist language. I won't report you but you never know who will.

MDude, Maxpen likes to play games on these forums. He likes to troll. Just look at the things he has said about mickeycrimm for years.

YOU, latching on and repeating Maxpens trolling comments as if they have any real value, thinking it furthers your agenda is what is really sad.

You are really clueless Mdawg. You are the guy at the poker table looking around for the "fish", not realizing HE is the fish. You are the guy who thinks he is winning some kind of chess match, not realizing he lost before it even began.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

I'm not sure what is more deluded thinking - you believing anyone believes your stories or you telling everyone you don't really care.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

I'm not sure what is more deluded thinking - you believing anyone believes your stories or you telling everyone you don't really care.

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I don't know why it is so hard for you people to understand that I don't care who believes what. Not about me, not about the easter bunny, not about Jack climbing a bean stalk.

My purpose was to share some of my experiences and journey and the way I do and have done things. If someone could find some value in that, that helps them in any way...great. If not, that is fine too. And if they want to hate and doubt, power to them. I can't make people not be stupid and believe stupid things.

Now it just so happens that myself and some other real APs and player, take offense at those, like you and Singer making up complete bullshit. Not all AP's, some like to play along, but some find these claims offensive. And you Mdawg, just like Singer before you, get pissed and nasty with those real players that would dare challenge your bullshit claims. And that is all this has ever been. Losing, possible degenerate gamblers, envious of player that actually win.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

And wait - so now MCrimm is saying that he called some BLACK BASTARDS....

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Wow, MDoogie! You're a racist too? Well, I guess that is your legacy now. You better hope no one reports this to Shack. He doesn't like anyone using racist language. I won't report you but you never know who will.

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I hear they like the Ladyboys over at the WoV. They are waiting for your apologies. :D

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Originally Posted by MDawg

And wait - so now MCrimm is saying that he called some BLACK BASTARDS....

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Wow, MDoogie! You're a racist too? Well, I guess that is your legacy now. You better hope no one reports this to Shack. He doesn't like anyone using racist language. I won't report you but you never know who will.

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I hear they like the Ladyboys over at the WoV. They are waiting for your apologies. :D

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Nope. They are waiting for you and your lover, Shack, to kiss and make up. Admit it, you like the ass raping he used to give you, stepandfetchit. So head on back over.

Here's the song that always makes me think of Shackleford. From the group, Looking Glass.

https://youtu.be/mTqTE7aNjZQ

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A looking glass is an object with a surface so reflective that you can see yourself in it — in other words, a mirror.

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It was the last post you made on the forum. Right or wrong, that's your parting legacy.

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Oh, it's my legacy?

How many sandniggers does it take to roof a building?

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

called me a racist on WOV. This always happens when idiots don't know all the facts.

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Pretty hard to claim that you were just doing whatever because you had to, and then turn right around and toss around racist terms.

Er, what your point again? If you had a point I mean.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

It was the last post you made on the forum. Right or wrong, that's your parting legacy.

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Oh, it's my legacy?

How many sandniggers does it take to roof a building?

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It depends on how thin you slice the sandniggers.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by MDawg

It was the last post you made on the forum. Right or wrong, that's your parting legacy.

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Oh, it's my legacy?

How many sandniggers does it take to roof a building?

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It depends on how thin you slice the sandniggers.

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Oh boy! Kind of gross Mickey. :D

Add MickeyCrimm and UNKewlJ both to the long list

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Rob's bitter, racist comments tell all you need to know about this bitter, racist old fuck and others like him on this forum.

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Others like...UNKewlJ

UNKewlJ use of the n word

Interesting development over at the Shack shack (WoV) today. Mission146 has announced that he is undertaking a project to add up all of Mdawg's daily and trip reports of his claimed winnings over the last 5+ years.

Speaking as someone who has done this for several of Mdawgs trips, I suspect Mission doesn't realize how time consuming this will be. I wish him well.

What mission will likely conclude, should he be permitted to complete this project, is that Mdawg has claimed to have won several million dollars over that time:
PLAYING TABLES GAMES
PLAYING RATED (where the casino can see your results)
PLAYING HI LIMIT ROOMS AND PRIVATE TABLES with many sets of eyes on him.

and has not only received no heat, backoffs, trespasses or countermeasures that he has spoken of, but the pit bosses loved him and patted him on the back, all the while the casinos comped him extraordinarily (like a high rolling LOSING player).....according to the fairytale.

I for one am looking forward to the results. :) Although this project appears to be without the approval of Mdawg and my bet is he is burning up the phone line and PM's to Shackleford, begging Mike to put a stop to it, to protect Mdawg again, as Mdawg is not going to want such a clear picture showing what nonsense these claims are.

Good luck Mission.

The hound should adopt a picture of coiled intestines as his avatar, given the fact he's FULL OF SHIT.

This will go one of two ways MrV. Either wacky Wizard shuts this down protecting mdawg yet again, or there will be another rash of suspensions from members expressing more dis-belief, which is prohibited in regards to mdawg.

Wonder if he has the Wiz on private retainer?

You know, to be his yes man and to keep the bullies and nay-sayers at bay.

Money talks...

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Interesting development over at the Shack shack (WoV) today. Mission146 has announced that he is undertaking a project to add up all of Mdawg's daily and trip reports of his claimed winnings over the last 5+ years.

Speaking as someone who has done this for several of Mdawgs trips, I suspect Mission doesn't realize how time consuming this will be. I wish him well.

What mission will likely conclude, should he be permitted to complete this project, is that Mdawg has claimed to have won several million dollars over that time:
PLAYING TABLES GAMES
PLAYING RATED (where the casino can see your results)
PLAYING HI LIMIT ROOMS AND PRIVATE TABLES with many sets of eyes on him.

and has not only received no heat, backoffs, trespasses or countermeasures that he has spoken of, but the pit bosses loved him and patted him on the back, all the while the casinos comped him extraordinarily (like a high rolling LOSING player).....according to the fairytale.

I for one am looking forward to the results. :) Although this project appears to be without the approval of Mdawg and my bet is he is burning up the phone line and PM's to Shackleford, begging Mike to put a stop to it, to protect Mdawg again, as Mdawg is not going to want such a clear picture showing what nonsense these claims are.

Good luck Mission.

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People will believe the MDawg tales before they believe your storyline. :cool:

As the Tunnel Turns....RIP

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

People will believe the MDawg tales before they believe your storyline. :cool:

As the Tunnel Turns....RIP

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Maxipad (nickname credited to mickeycrimm), I don't care who believes me or not. I don't know how many times I have to say that. I am not selling anything. Not benefiting in any way from my participation on any forum. I don't make more if someone believes me. Nothing changes. :D

Do you people think I haven't seen the polls, where you vote by wide margins that you don't believe me? I see them. I don't believe some of you are being honest, but again, I don't care.

Nothing I say defies the math. Nothing I say defies the way things work with blackjack or Las Vegas. So it is nothing more than people like you deciding they want to troll me. So have fun. :rolleyes: It changes nothing. Not what I do. Not what I make. Not where I live. NOTHING!

But what mdawg claims defies everything. And that has always been my problem with his stories and really the problem of most AP's and players that know how things work.

mdawg immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was me behind this. Nope, mdawg. Wrong again. But I am happy to see it. Mainly because most members have just tuned you and your reports out now for quite a while. But seeing the recap, where your claims add up to millions won at table games with pit and surveillance watching you, with you playing rated so they would know your results and then add in all the comps, I think it is going to once again rub people the wrong way. I expect a lot of people asking "why is this guy allowed to peddle this bullshit at WoV"? they might as will open the door to Mikki what's his name and Dan Druff's friend, Christopher Mitchell or Morganstern, the blackjack army guy (what happened to THAT guy?) and all the other scammers.

Do you know what mdawg said in response to Mission adding up his claims? He said good because he has won so much money so fast he doesn't even know what he has won. What a fucktard. This dude is just Rob Singer on steriods.....or maybe handfuls of supplements. :cool:

"Sure I'm a compulsive liar, but at least my lies could have been true!"

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

"Sure I'm a compulsive liar, but at least my lies could have been true!"

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The "compulsive liar" narrative is B.S. I have only lied, or in the case of my college experience, not been completely up front to protect my identity from several trolls that repeatedly are looking to identify for the purpose if damaging my career and income.

But if that is really what you want to believe...then believe it. Like I keep saying changes nothing. It's not like my book sales are dropping because you want to troll me.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

People will believe the MDawg tales before they believe your storyline. :cool:

As the Tunnel Turns....RIP

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Maxipad (nickname credited to mickeycrimm), I don't care who believes me or not. I don't know how many times I have to say that. I am not selling anything. Not benefiting in any way from my participation on any forum. I don't make more if someone believes me. Nothing changes. :D

Do you people think I haven't seen the polls, where you vote by wide margins that you don't believe me? I see them. I don't believe some of you are being honest, but again, I don't care.

Nothing I say defies the math. Nothing I say defies the way things work with blackjack or Las Vegas. So it is nothing more than people like you deciding they want to troll me. So have fun. :rolleyes: It changes nothing. Not what I do. Not what I make. Not where I live. NOTHING!

But what mdawg claims defies everything. And that has always been my problem with his stories and really the problem of most AP's and players that know how things work.

mdawg immediately jumped to the conclusion that it was me behind this. Nope, mdawg. Wrong again. But I am happy to see it. Mainly because most members have just tuned you and your reports out now for quite a while. But seeing the recap, where your claims add up to millions won at table games with pit and surveillance watching you, with you playing rated so they would know your results and then add in all the comps, I think it is going to once again rub people the wrong way. I expect a lot of people asking "why is this guy allowed to peddle this bullshit at WoV"? they might as will open the door to Mikki what's his name and Dan Druff's friend, Christopher Mitchell or Morganstern, the blackjack army guy (what happened to THAT guy?) and all the other scammers.

Do you know what mdawg said in response to Mission adding up his claims? He said good because he has won so much money so fast he doesn't even know what he has won. What a fucktard. This dude is just Rob Singer on steriods.....or maybe handfuls of supplements. :cool:

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

"Sure I'm a compulsive liar, but at least my lies could have been true!"

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Just his absolute obsession with how other's perceive Mdawg ... then when you layer that on to being such a serial liar himself. You get a person completely divorced from reality.

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

"Sure I'm a compulsive liar, but at least my lies could have been true!"

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The "compulsive liar" narrative is B.S. I have only lied, or in the case of my college experience, not been completely up front to protect my identity from several trolls that repeatedly are looking to identify for the purpose if damaging my career and income.

But if that is really what you want to believe...then believe it. Like I keep saying changes nothing. It's not like my book sales are dropping because you want to troll me.

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Get help.

Smurger, I just want to be clear what you are saying.

I joined my first forum in 2006 or 2007, blackjack info. So for 18 years I have pretended to play blackjack, learning everything I could about how to win, and how to be allowed and welcome to continue to play. I then up and moved completely across country from Philadelphia, to Las Vegas, and Dan Druff has confirmed I live and post from Las Vegas. And did all this to pretend I play blackjack while I am really supporting myself from some other method? And no not the male prostitute thing. I know you don't believe that. Anyone who really believes that is beyond looney.

So that is what you really believe, smurger?

And yes I do realize that we have a loon that has trolled the forum for decades in Rob Singer, but he hasn't learned and doesn't know shit about really winning. You think I have learned everything I have learned, not to make money playing with and advantage, but to pretend for 18 years? While moving to and living in Vegas for 15 years!

Come on man. You don't believe that. :rolleyes:

Fuck off AinQ! YOU I KNOW are trolling and hating, absolutely no different that Singer and mdawg.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Smurger, I just want to be clear what you are saying.

I joined my first forum in 2006 or 2007, blackjack info. So for 18 years I have pretended to play blackjack, learning everything I could about how to win, and how to be allowed and welcome to continue to play. I then up and moved completely across country from Philadelphia, to Las Vegas, and Dan Druff has confirmed I live and post from Las Vegas. And did all this to pretend I play blackjack while I am really supporting myself from some other method? And no not the male prostitute thing. I know you don't believe that. Anyone who really believes that is beyond looney.

So that is what you really believe, smurger?

And yes I do realize that we have a loon that has trolled the forum for decades in Rob Singer, but he hasn't learned and doesn't know shit about really winning. You think I have learned everything I have learned, not to make money playing with and advantage, but to pretend for 18 years? While moving to and living in Vegas for 15 years!

Come on man. You don't believe that. :rolleyes:

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No one knows what you really do so all we can do is conjecture. You being a prostitute is as valid conjecture as anything. It is Las Vegas. You have some need to constantly put yourself out there as a card counter and legitimize yourself.

You've also said numerous things that are completely manufactured. Mdawg has that list.. 26 distinct items and growing every day? Is it above 26 now?

You willingly admit your believable story should be believed just because everything about it is believable. Then you skip over all the unbelievable stuff you've said yet you will allude to all of it when you claim you're been blanket truthful. Then you point to Singer or Mdawg because once upon a time they've both claimed things that are also not that believable.

Funny how you always have to bring it back to Singer or Mdawg. Somehow in your head it really is about them more than yourself. You're a fascinating human specimen but more importantly .. Kewl ..

Get help.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Fuck off AinQ! YOU I KNOW are trolling and hating, absolutely no different that Singer and mdawg.

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Not true. I really believe that.. you should...

Get help.

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Originally Posted by monet

MDawg is taken more serious than anyone on here currently.
He is taken so seriously that DarkOz gave him 2,000 dollars.
That wasn't good enough so he tipped the Wizard 500 dollars.
I'd say that MDawg is taken very seriously to some members.
DarkOz for starters.

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And this continues today, as at least two people spend night and day adding up all the money I've won.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jDmioJt0wg&t=1s

Why should anyone be upset over it? My session reports are all public record and not only that - the amounts I have posted that I won correlate almost exactly to the year end verified WIN statements I posted. Yup, actual video of me logged into my casino accounts, navigating around, live video - all equals what I've claimed. So there's your proof too that I never left out anything.

As usual UNKewlJ gets it wrong, thinking that this is an exercise in anything more than flattery and basic addition and subtraction.

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Originally Posted by RobSinger

How many times does he need to suffer thru "It just isn't fair that MDawg gets to claim he wins all the time with comps, gifts and special treatment, and he gets support & cover from Benedict Shack and other Richard Potatoes from the gaming forums' group of administrators!" "Can't you people see how much this HURTS me when I can't do anything about it?"

Yes....kew IS the architect of his own suffering. While other disbelievers aren't affected one bit by what MDawg does or says, kew let's it get so far under his skin that it's beginning to spell I AM A FOOL all over his wimpy body

How about some truth about his obsession for a refreshing change. Kew is so extraordinarily jealous of the guy because he knows he has wealth far beyond anything kew will ever see. He also despises him for being normal and not being afflicted with that short circuit in his brain. Covering up this ball of envy with rambling posts of "I'm an educator on LV gambling operation, and I say THAT'S NOT HOW THIS CITY WORKS!"

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Fuck off AinQ! YOU I KNOW are trolling and hating, absolutely no different that Singer and mdawg.

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Not true. I really believe that.. you should...

Get help.

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As I do with you. I have seen nothing but trolling and bullying of an insecure person, ad all bullies are.

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

"Sure I'm a compulsive liar, but at least my lies could have been true!"

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Just his absolute obsession with how other's perceive Mdawg ... then when you layer that on to being such a serial liar himself. You get a person completely divorced from reality.

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AccountInQuestion you really did miss your calling, as you seem to be able to slice open UNKewlJ's psyche better than the psychiatrists he probably has to see monthly to keep getting his SSI (that he seems to know so much about, right down to exactly when the payments are supposed to land in the bank) payments.

Anyway, can see the usual trolls and haters want to make this about me....as they always do.

I just wanted make note of what is finally occurring at WoV. People are finally saying WTF? Winning millions over 5 years playing rated and under the eye of pit and surveillance? And no one cares.

That is one of positions I hate about Mdawg. He keeps saying casino don't care when players win. Any AP knows that is BS. Most of us work hard at winning and still being able to play.

Don't feed us shit like that.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Anyway, can see the usual trolls and haters want to make this about me....as they always do.

I just wanted make note of what is finally occurring at WoV. People are finally saying WTF? Winning millions over 5 years playing rated and under the eye of pit and surveillance? And no one cares.

That is one of positions I hate about Mdawg. He keeps saying casino don't care when players win. Any AP knows that is BS. Most of us work hard at winning and still being able to play.

Don't feed us shit like that.

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Maybe Mdawg is some sort of uber genius and the casino lets him do his thing hoping they'll finally be able to crack his secret?

Or perhaps they just think he is running good.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Anyway, can see the usual trolls and haters want to make this about me....as they always do.

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AccountInQuestion, did you hear that one? UNKewlJ is complaining about "making a thread all about him"? :D

https://i.imgur.com/9AaVgPgh.jpg

Not that UNKewlJ EVER tries to make a thread "all about him." :D :D

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Maybe Mdawg is some sort of uber genius and the casino lets him do his thing hoping they'll finally be able to crack his secret?

Or perhaps they just think he is running good.

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Here is the problem with these "suppose this or that".

A player isn't "just running good" for several hundred days a year for going on 6 years. The casinos put an end to it long before that even if they have no clue what he might be doing.

They don't care about your "secrets" or what you might be doing. If a player is winning and they are outside the 3 or 4 standard deviation mark for any reasonable amount of play, the casino will put a stop to it. That is why real advantage players and winning players have to do the things we do to still be able to play. With Table games, that means playing unrated, short sessions, and a variety of other measures.

What you are describing and have been describing for almost 6 years, a player playing hundreds of days a year, winning 90% of those days/sessions to the tune of millions of dollars and the casinos not caring and comping and welcoming that player is just a fairytale. It just is not something that happens on this planet, particularly in this town of Las vegas where they knew what they are doing.

It is simply a case of you pissing on the legs of real players, real APs and winning players and telling them it is raining, which also doesn't happen much here i Vegas.

THAT is what I object to.

Now why don't you go ahead and now tell us what this last 6 years has really been about. Is it a book, or novel or movie scrip? Because it sure as hell hasn't been about a real player sharing his real experiences. :cool:

By the way, according to your posts, Mdawg is not just some uber genius at gambling, but also at stock trading, and an expert skier, and snow boarder, and half a dozen other things that you claim to be the best at. :rolleyes:

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lagged out site and dupe post?

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Maybe Mdawg is some sort of uber genius and the casino lets him do his thing hoping they'll finally be able to crack his secret?

Or perhaps they just think he is running good.

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Here is the problem with these "suppose this or that".

A player isn't "just running good" for several hundred days a year for going on 6 years. The casinos put an end to it long before that even if they have no clue what he might be doing.

They don't care about your "secrets" or what you might be doing. If a player is winning and they are outside the 3 or 4 standard deviation mark for any reasonable amount of play, the casino will put a stop to it. That is why real advantage players and winning players have to do the things we do to still be able to play. With Table games, that means playing unrated, short sessions, and a variety of other measures.

What you are describing and have been describing for almost 6 years, a player playing hundreds of days a year, winning 90% of those days/sessions to the tune of millions of dollars and the casinos not caring and comping and welcoming that player is just a fairytale. It just is not something that happens on this planet, particularly in this town of Las vegas where they knew what they are doing.

It is simply a case of you pissing on the legs of real players, real APs and winning players and telling them it is raining, which also doesn't happen much here i Vegas.

THAT is what I object to.

Now why don't you go ahead and now tell us what this last 6 years has really been about. Is it a book, or novel or movie scrip? Because it sure as hell hasn't been about a real player sharing his real experiences. :cool:

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It is very telling how when you talk about APs and what they do .. you always fall back on that "this is what we do".. like you're in on some James Bond spycraft shit. That is you. Trying your best to fit in and be an AP instead of just being out there making $$ then coming on here for lolz.

Maybe Mdawg is just the luckiest dude mankind has seen. You do realize that such a person exists? Why can't it be Mdawg? After all shufflemaster made a cheatcode you can discover in their shufflers which would bankrupt their business. Actually maybe not because casinos would have to redo their tables and such.. they would just PR and take the hit. Shufflemaster would rebrand.

Regardless, did not happen. You sure as shit didn't discover it. You lied to me in private to keep it from being called out - like you were helping me out. I actually believed it because I never heard the rest of it where you got one and had someone discover the cheat code in 15 minutes. You seemed authentic (which you've done quite a job portraying for the past 10+ years) so I had no reason to not believe. It is possible a casino was able to swap out a chip but that wasn't good enough. You had to go for the gold. Some secret transactions and a worldclass hacker. True James Bond stuff. The stuff you'd love to be true.

Kewl,

Get Help.

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Maybe Mdawg is just the luckiest dude mankind has seen. You do realize that such a person exists? Why can't it be Mdawg?

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It's the evening train to Aristophanes' "Cloud-cuckoo land."

All aboard!

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Maybe Mdawg is just the luckiest dude mankind has seen. You do realize that such a person exists? Why can't it be Mdawg?

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It's the evening train to Aristophanes' "Cloud-cuckoo land."

All aboard!

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Face it. This site would be worthless if not for cuckoos cuckooing about and I accept I am partially included.

TBH if this site was censored it'd have far more awful posters. The primitive savagery around here is a form of natural selection.

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By the way, according to your posts, Mdawg is not just some uber genius at gambling, but also at stock trading, and an expert skier, and snow boarder, and half a dozen other things that you claim to be the best at. :rolleyes:

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Can he ride an oily surfboard too?:cool:

If anyone offered me $200. to post a pic of my skis, I'd post 'em! :D

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Originally Posted by MDawg

If anyone offered me $200. to post a pic of my skis, I'd post 'em! :D

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Skis may be one thing: a fucking surfboard is quite a different kettle of figerglass altogether.

Why would KJ have kept it with him all these years, traveling from Florida to Philly to Las Vegas?

Not a lot of "Kowabunga, dude" on the LV Strip, and the surf's never up on Lake Mead.

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Skis may be one thing: a fucking surfboard is quite a different kettle of figerglass altogether.

Why would KJ have kept it with him all these years, traveling from Florida to Philly to Las Vegas?

Not a lot of "Kowabunga, dude" on the LV Strip, and the surf's never up on Lake Mead.

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The surfboard in question, is currently in the storage unit. I moved it there last week prior to renting out the condo. Prior to that it was in my brothers room in the corner. He brought it with him when he moved from Florida. I sometimes make comments like where did he think he was moving to? :D But really that isn't it. It had sentimental value to him. Me too at one time as it was first mine and he inherited it when I moved out of the house 23 years ago. That is all. Sentimental value. Something from both our youth. Last year we took a trip to California to surf for a few days and rented boards. This board is not in good shape, nor functional. It has long ago outlived any usefulness and sentimental value or not, probably long past time to let her go.

Of course I could have posted a picture of it. Still could. I could post any number of pictures of things that would prove different things. But I will just not engage in that kind of nonsense demanded from trolls and haters. And they wouldn't be satisfied anyway.

UNKewlJ can't post what he doesn't have. Which includes about everything he has ever talked about other than some red or green chips. :D

https://i.imgur.com/qFQz40yl.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/y7W17LUl.jpg

The Wiz suspended Mission for calling the dawg's brag-thread "boring."

Are you fucking kidding me?

He commented on the writing, not the writer.

Wow.

Either the Wiz is cowed by the bluster of the Egyptian mouthpiece, or the desert-dweller has greased his palm with silver.

Lots of suspensions there in the land of the Lotus Eaters: guess I'll be in red soon too..."pick me, pick me..."

Exactly. I commented in the other thread before I saw your comment here or would have just followed you here.

Wizard is a real A-hole. He really is. He has no respect for anyone, including the very people he asks to work for free.

Shackleford has never understood that without the members if his forum, many APs and knowledgeable gamblers, he would have been just another math guy (Sheldon) talking to himself. He has never shown an ounce of appreciation for the members that helped him. He has always looked down on them.

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Exactly. I commented in the other thread before I saw your comment here or would have just followed you here.

Wizard is a real A-hole. He really is. He has no respect for anyone, including the very people he asks to work for free.

Shackleford has never understood that without the members if his forum, many APs and knowledgeable gamblers, he would have been just another math guy (Sheldon) talking to himself. He has never shown an ounce of appreciation for the members that helped him. He has always looked down on them.

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I would like to see proof that Wizard asked Mission to perform this service. Maybe someone can post that up because we all know FraudJ just interprets things the way he wants them to be.

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The Wiz suspended Mission for calling the dawg's brag-thread "boring."

Are you fucking kidding me?

He commented on the writing, not the writer.

Wow.

Either the Wiz is cowed by the bluster of the Egyptian mouthpiece, or the desert-dweller has greased his palm with silver.

Lots of suspensions there in the land of the Lotus Eaters: guess I'll be in red soon too..."pick me, pick me..."

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Yet you betas line up for more when your suspension is over time and time again. Then you whine like little bitches when it happens over and over again. Mission the man slave takes the man servant trophy time and time again....RIP

Haven't seen that one before.

Me too.

I thought they always exercised discretion when suspending?

My post wasn't really insulting, but I was jabbing the dawg a bit in his balls.

Well played Gordon...catch me if you can.

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My post wasn't really insulting, but I was jabbing the dawg a bit in his balls.

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Allah's well that ends well.

And....Romes has Trolled Mdawg and me TWICE by mentioning how much he doesn't want us to be WOV Moderators. The first time, I just made a snarky joke about what he said even though I was uncomfortable with it the first time he mentioned it, but then he mentioned it AGAIN and I had enough and called him out for Trolling Mdawg and me. :/

I didn't realize that R.omes was such a jerk off. I will have to add him to my list at TruePassage.

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I didn't realize that R.omes was such a jerk off. I will have to add him to my list at TruePassage.

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Surprised me too. Romes always seemed normal, cool, mature, reasonable, etc and for him to Troll us like that seemed out of left field....:/

A "Math Boy" at WoV, Mental, posted a short, to the point analysis of MDawg's claims and concluded the hound is full of shit, or as he politiely put it:

"I am interested in the math, not the unsubstantiated claims. I was hoping for a response that would explain how you do so much handle with so little variance as evidenced by your adventures thread. Instead, I get the usual response that what I find interesting is 'complicated and irrelevant'. It is not my fault that your tale is mathematically inconsistent."

Mental posted it at 4:18 AM today, so search for it by time stamp if you care to read his analysis.

Looks like KJ was right all along...The claims of the hound defy the math; the dawg has been neutered.