movie reco

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John Wick 3 (the first two were great too).

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It's about time!

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Let me know when you actually get to play it!
I watched the original movie the other day.
I thought the movie was better the first time I watched it ten years ago.
I was wrong.
I don't understand how people love this movie/series.
I'm really starting to turn into an old curmudgeon lol.

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Will do Monet. Although the Pinball Hall of Fame will probably get it as fast as any place, so you will get to play it quite soon if you decide to play it. Anyway, based on the Youtube footage, it looks like a lot of fun.

I watched the movie Defendor (Woody Harrelson). The movie was a bit lame (rehashed storyline seen in dozens of other movies - a likeable vigilante dumbfuck tries to help people), so I would only watch it if you are bored. Please disregard this post if you have already seen it.

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I watched the movie Defendor (Woody Harrelson). The movie was a bit lame (rehashed storyline seen in dozens of other movies - a likeable vigilante dumbfuck tries to help people), so I would only watch it if you are bored. Please disregard this post if you have already seen it.

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I think I watched it when it first came out.
Very Forgettable.
Not even sure if I watched the entire movie.

Anyways... found this.
1990 British sitcom "Heil Honey, I'm Home"
Funny Concept.
Mel Brooks would have made it work if he was involved.
For some reason the Brits got all offended and only the pilot aired.
I guess they shot 8 episodes but only aired 1.
The writers could have gone really hard on the "jokes" as they seemed a bit too soft.
Maybe they got more edgy as the series went on lol.
I dunno, it's sort of so bad that it's funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf9jJx0NSjw

That recommendation got me thinking about something I watched not too long ago, 'The Great Dictator' by Charlie Chaplin. Max has a lot of really old stuff but what got me intrigued was the 1940 release date. A film making fun of Hitler from a mainly pre-war perspective?? I'm in. Apparently this was his most commercially successful film, but not sure I'd ever even heard of it. Anyway what really surprised me is how much I enjoyed it. Both from a historical standpoint in terms of what we knew about the Nazis at that time, but also the movie is often hysterically funny. I mean how can you make tormenting and murdering people in a ghetto funny?? Doesn't seem possible, but he pulls it off. At the end Chaplin looks directly into the camera and delivers a heartfelt message that really moved me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHZ46sQkzqU

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That recommendation got me thinking about something I watched not too long ago, 'The Great Dictator' by Charlie Chaplin. Max has a lot of really old stuff but what got me intrigued was the 1940 release date. A film making fun of Hitler from a mainly pre-war perspective?? I'm in. Apparently this was his most commercially successful film, but not sure I'd ever even heard of it. Anyway what really surprised me is how much I enjoyed it. Both from a historical standpoint in terms of what we knew about the Nazis at that time, but also the movie is often hysterically funny. I mean how can you make tormenting and murdering people in a ghetto funny?? Doesn't seem possible, but he pulls it off. At the end Chaplin looks directly into the camera and delivers a heartfelt message that really moved me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHZ46sQkzqU

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You must be really young.
You can watch more Charlie Chaplin movies.
After that you can move over to the Marx Brothers and Three Stooges.
Should keep you busy for at least a year depending on how hard you go.

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Should keep you busy for at least a year depending on how hard you go.

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That's actually quite profoundly pathetic. Not even a spectator sport.

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I watched the movie Defendor (Woody Harrelson). The movie was a bit lame (rehashed storyline seen in dozens of other movies - a likeable vigilante dumbfuck tries to help people), so I would only watch it if you are bored. Please disregard this post if you have already seen it.

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I think I watched it when it first came out.
Very Forgettable.
Not even sure if I watched the entire movie.

Anyways... found this.
1990 British sitcom "Heil Honey, I'm Home"
Funny Concept.
Mel Brooks would have made it work if he was involved.
For some reason the Brits got all offended and only the pilot aired.
I guess they shot 8 episodes but only aired 1.
The writers could have gone really hard on the "jokes" as they seemed a bit too soft.
Maybe they got more edgy as the series went on lol.
I dunno, it's sort of so bad that it's funny.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf9jJx0NSjw

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Thanks M8. I'm in - looks really funny.

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That recommendation got me thinking about something I watched not too long ago, 'The Great Dictator' by Charlie Chaplin. Max has a lot of really old stuff but what got me intrigued was the 1940 release date. A film making fun of Hitler from a mainly pre-war perspective?? I'm in. Apparently this was his most commercially successful film, but not sure I'd ever even heard of it. Anyway what really surprised me is how much I enjoyed it. Both from a historical standpoint in terms of what we knew about the Nazis at that time, but also the movie is often hysterically funny. I mean how can you make tormenting and murdering people in a ghetto funny?? Doesn't seem possible, but he pulls it off. At the end Chaplin looks directly into the camera and delivers a heartfelt message that really moved me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHZ46sQkzqU

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Thanks Jdog. Who can forget the classic from '68, The Producers (Mel Brooks - I think this movie was discussed in this thread at some point):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovCf9VRLnDY

Speaking of Hitler, I made the mistake of seeing The Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt5177120/). I guess it's just better to assume every movie released is going to be woke trash.

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For some reason the Brits got all offended and only the pilot aired.
I guess they shot 8 episodes but only aired 1.
I dunno, it's sort of so bad that it's funny.

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It looks like it was heavily influenced by The Honeymooners in terms of mannerisms and characterizations. Obviously, even if it had been well executed, they would have run out of material after the 8 episodes anyway, due to the highly specialized subject matter. They should have aired the series in the U.S. market rather than the British market - it may have succeeded ;-). Thanks again for the reco.

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You must be really young.
You can watch more Charlie Chaplin movies.
After that you can move over to the Marx Brothers and Three Stooges.
Should keep you busy for at least a year depending on how hard you go.

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First time anyone has referred to me as young in a very long time... thanks!

As a kid I was quite familiar with the Stooges, Laurel & Hardy, Dagwood & Blondie... etc, but Marx brothers stuff never interested me. The Great Dictator is probably the only Chaplin movie I've ever watched in it's entirety.

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It looks like it was heavily influenced by The Honeymooners in terms of mannerisms and characterizations. Obviously, even if it had been well executed, they would have run out of material after the 8 episodes anyway, due to the highly specialized subject matter. They should have aired the series in the U.S. market rather than the British market - it may have succeeded ;-). Thanks again for the reco.

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I think that was the point.
I'm pretty sure they were making fun of American Sitcoms.
And that anything goes in America.
Most of the cast was Jewish so it wasn't like it offended them.
In either case, I guess the joke works better as a skit.
A 30-minute, show every week, is probably too much as the joke wears off.
And I guess it was done a few times before.

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I'm pretty sure they were making fun of American Sitcoms.
And I guess it was done a few times before.

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Yes excellent point, that was most likely a primary motivation along with making fun of the Nazis at the same time. That's right, and as you know Mel Brooks was one of those who satirized the Nazis, and of course Spike Jones too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWF8iRCan7I

The review is only 9 seconds, but it is spot on and a bit humorous.
I enjoyed the movie.
Too Bad it bombed at the box office and ruined Caan's directorial career.
It did have this TV Movie feel to it but still pretty good at 2am with nothing else to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6uqrQqINQg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ7fLyaPlL4

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The review is only 9 seconds, but it is spot on and a bit humorous.
I enjoyed the movie.
Too Bad it bombed at the box office and ruined Caan's directorial career.
It did have this TV Movie feel to it but still pretty good at 2am with nothing else to watch.

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I'm in Monet, thanks for the reco.

I haven't watched more than a few minutes of TV, in the last few months. Only to find out what's going on in the real world.

The Heil Honey I’m home reminds me a little bit of That’s My Bush, the live action show by the South Park guys that came out right after the 2000 election was settled.

It was only on a few episodes before it got cancelled but it was a funny show. Particularly notable was the episode where George Bush accidentally did ecstasy, or the episode where Dick Cheney took over which was retitled for that 1 episode, What a Dick

https://youtu.be/mC-m1ptBzuI

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The review is only 9 seconds, but it is spot on and a bit humorous.
I enjoyed the movie.
Too Bad it bombed at the box office and ruined Caan's directorial career.
It did have this TV Movie feel to it but still pretty good at 2am with nothing else to watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6uqrQqINQg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ7fLyaPlL4

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Thanks again Monet, very solid movie. I'm not clear on why Hacklin's mother wasn't cast as a Buffalo mom (Edith type from All in the Family)- she came off more like a Kansas librarian (maybe she emigrated to New York when she was young before she gave birth to Hacklin). The movie did a great job of emulating the late 60's, which of course would be much more difficult to do these days.

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The Heil Honey I’m home reminds me a little bit of That’s My Bush, the live action show by the South Park guys that came out right after the 2000 election was settled.

It was only on a few episodes before it got cancelled but it was a funny show. Particularly notable was the episode where George Bush accidentally did ecstasy, or the episode where Dick Cheney took over which was retitled for that 1 episode, What a Dick

https://youtu.be/mC-m1ptBzuI

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I vaguely remember that airing, but I don't remember seeing any episodes. Thanks for the reco Ben, I'll check it out if I can find an episode or more.

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The Heil Honey I’m home reminds me a little bit of That’s My Bush, the live action show by the South Park guys that came out right after the 2000 election was settled.

It was only on a few episodes before it got cancelled but it was a funny show. Particularly notable was the episode where George Bush accidentally did ecstasy, or the episode where Dick Cheney took over which was retitled for that 1 episode, What a Dick

https://youtu.be/mC-m1ptBzuI

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I vaguely remember that airing, but I don't remember seeing any episodes. Thanks for the reco Ben, I'll check it out if I can find an episode or more.

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What makes myself & probably others nostalgic for that show was it aired in the brief period after Bush became president but before 9/11.

A great period in life & in history, although the events that happened later may be clouding that view.

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Thanks again Monet, very solid movie. I'm not clear on why Hacklin's mother wasn't cast as a Buffalo mom (Edith type from All in the Family)- she came off more like a Kansas librarian (maybe she emigrated to New York when she was young before she gave birth to Hacklin). The movie did a great job of emulating the late 60's, which of course would be much more difficult to do these days.

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Good Catch/Insight!
The movie was pretty good at keeping my attention.
I enjoyed the early bar scene.
I like those kinds of places.
Hitting the guy with a shovel was a pretty good stunt.
Anyways...

Found this movie.
I do not recall ever watching it.
Probably up your alley as it is horror and comedy.
You probably already seen it.
It's not an easy movie to find.
Someone uploaded it to YouTube a couple of weeks ago.
And it's in HD.
YouTube will probably strike it down eventually.
Anyways, I always enjoy Elliott Gould.
I haven't watched it yet.
Doing that now.

EDIT: Not so hard to find after-all.
Turns out YouTube has some other lower quality uploads.
It appears that if you want it on DVD, it will cost you 50 to 100 dollars!

Little Murders (1971)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBcyb3zXvGc

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Little Murders (1971)

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Nevermind about this movie.
Figuring out nevermind or never mind is more interesting.
Sometimes the Stage doesn't translate over to the Screen for me.
This movie is heavy dialog and by heavy, I mean non-stop.
The jokes barely gave me a chuckle.
The climax didn't work for me either.
The movie holds up with modern day issues but the powers that be would use this subject material to take our guns away.
Glad I watched it, but it was not easy to sit through the entire movie.

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That’s My Bush, the live action show by the South Park guys that came out right after the 2000 election was settled.

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Do you also remember the Lil' Bush cartoon? It was hysterical but I thought to myself- man this has got to be pissing a lot of powerful people off. Surprisingly it still ran for two seasons.

Finally got around to watching 'Hard Eight' last night. Not bad and a very solid cast, but mainly enjoyed that a lot of it was probably shot at the Reno Peppermill in the mid 90s. I think it's worth a watch but can see how the twist does not quite hold up against most of the better films of this era. It's on Pluto for free rn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwLWHNuJ-2M

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That’s My Bush, the live action show by the South Park guys that came out right after the 2000 election was settled.

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Do you also remember the Lil' Bush cartoon? It was hysterical but I thought to myself- man this has got to be pissing a lot of powerful people off. Surprisingly it still ran for two seasons.

Finally got around to watching 'Hard Eight' last night. Not bad and a very solid cast, but mainly enjoyed that a lot of it was probably shot at the Reno Peppermill in the mid 90s. I think it's worth a watch but can see how the twist does not quite hold up against most of the better films of this era. It's on Pluto for free rn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwLWHNuJ-2M

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Loved Lil’ Bush! His rock song The Decider still actually gets stuck in my head from time to time!

Hard 8 was filmed in 96. Around that time I was a regular visitor to Reno as a broke degenerate.

So used to stay in the funky little no-tell motels vs the casino hotels.

I’m not for certain but when I watched Hard 8 one or more of the scenes was filmed at one of those & it looked familiar enough that I think I had stayed in it.

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Thanks again Monet, very solid movie. I'm not clear on why Hacklin's mother wasn't cast as a Buffalo mom (Edith type from All in the Family)- she came off more like a Kansas librarian (maybe she emigrated to New York when she was young before she gave birth to Hacklin). The movie did a great job of emulating the late 60's, which of course would be much more difficult to do these days.

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Good Catch/Insight!
The movie was pretty good at keeping my attention.
I enjoyed the early bar scene.
I like those kinds of places.
Hitting the guy with a shovel was a pretty good stunt.
Anyways...

Found this movie.
I do not recall ever watching it.
Probably up your alley as it is horror and comedy.
You probably already seen it.
It's not an easy movie to find.
Someone uploaded it to YouTube a couple of weeks ago.
And it's in HD.
YouTube will probably strike it down eventually.
Anyways, I always enjoy Elliott Gould.
I haven't watched it yet.
Doing that now.

EDIT: Not so hard to find after-all.
Turns out YouTube has some other lower quality uploads.
It appears that if you want it on DVD, it will cost you 50 to 100 dollars!

Little Murders (1971)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBcyb3zXvGc

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Thanks Monet, I'll give it a go, I haven't seen it either.

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It's about time!

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Let me know when you actually get to play it!
I watched the original movie the other day.
I thought the movie was better the first time I watched it ten years ago.
I was wrong.
I don't understand how people love this movie/series.
I'm really starting to turn into an old curmudgeon lol.

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Will do Monet. Although the Pinball Hall of Fame will probably get it as fast as any place, so you will get to play it quite soon if you decide to play it. Anyway, based on the Youtube footage, it looks like a lot of fun.

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Ok, well I played the John Wick pinball on Monday. It was not a fun game. Even when the rule set gets more developed with later software releases I don't see how they can save this game. The reason is the layout is generic - most of the shots are just larger than the width of the ball. So you will just have to trap up to shoot many of shots rather than shooting them on the run as the shots are much more likely to brick compared to most other recent releases.

As an aside, I highly recommend the Jaws pinball (based on the blockbuster '75 movie) from Stern which was the last Stern release before the John Wick pinball. The theme of Jaws is seamlessly integrated into the rule set and same with the innovate layout.

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Ok, well I played the John Wick pinball on Monday. It was not a fun game. Even when the rule set gets more developed with later software releases I don't see how they can save this game. The reason is the layout is generic - most of the shots are just larger than the width of the ball. So you will just have to trap up to shoot many of shots rather than shooting them on the run as the shots are much more likely to brick compared to most other recent releases.

As an aside, I highly recommend the Jaws pinball (based on the blockbuster '75 movie) from Stern which was the last Stern release before the John Wick pinball. The theme of Jaws is seamlessly integrated into the rule set and same with the innovate layout.

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Thanks for the update!
I'll keep a lookout for Jaws Pinball.

Little Murderers is probably worth the viewing just for the experience.
It's just a very dry black comedy that takes a long time to get to the point.
The first hour and fifteen minutes is a very long setup.
It's a little too much on "psychobabble" for me.
I'm not a big believer in Fraud (Freud) or Therapy.
When I look back it, I guess the best part is how Elliot Gould snaps out of it and is eating dinner with his hands while having a good laugh.
I just wouldn't recommend the movie or rewatch it, but I think it is important in the overall movie making/viewing experience.

I did just happen to stumble upon a Great Movie that I missed 11 years ago.
I didn't know anything about it going in.
I suggest you do not read any comments or watch any previews if you watch this movie.
You really do not want to know anything going in.
I stumbled upon it in the usual way of searching to and fro.
I was probably too busy making money in this time period and the movie didn't gain any traction for me to notice it.
But it is definitely a movie that I will put in my collection, and I highly recommend it.

The odd thing about this movie is the rotten tomato score.
IMDB has it rated better.
I figured this movie might be really good when I watched 10 seconds of the preview.
The Classical Music and Art Dealings hooked me immediately.
Geffory Rush is pretty damn good at what he does as well.

The Best Offer (2013)
Geoffrey Rush
Jim Sturgess
Donald Sutherland

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Ok, well I played the John Wick pinball on Monday. It was not a fun game. Even when the rule set gets more developed with later software releases I don't see how they can save this game. The reason is the layout is generic - most of the shots are just larger than the width of the ball. So you will just have to trap up to shoot many of shots rather than shooting them on the run as the shots are much more likely to brick compared to most other recent releases.

As an aside, I highly recommend the Jaws pinball (based on the blockbuster '75 movie) from Stern which was the last Stern release before the John Wick pinball. The theme of Jaws is seamlessly integrated into the rule set and same with the innovate layout.

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Thanks for the update!
I'll keep a lookout for Jaws Pinball.

Little Murderers is probably worth the viewing just for the experience.
It's just a very dry black comedy that takes a long time to get to the point.
The first hour and fifteen minutes is a very long setup.
It's a little too much on "psychobabble" for me.
I'm not a big believer in Fraud (Freud) or Therapy.
When I look back it, I guess the best part is how Elliot Gould snaps out of it and is eating dinner with his hands while having a good laugh.
I just wouldn't recommend the movie or rewatch it, but I think it is important in the overall movie making/viewing experience.

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Thanks Monet. I found the humor is ultra-dark even in the Dark Comedy genre and am guessing that that is why it didn't gain much traction in the theater. For example, the apathy of the other subway riders as Alfred came on the subway completely bloodied after Patsy was shot and killed. Alan Arkin's speculation at the time for how interactions will be in crowded urban environments. That's why you have all these social media hounds on Twitter, Facebook, etc. - trying to gain attention in an indifferent world, so I guess Alan had it down pretty well and just packaged it in the form of an ultra-dark comedy.

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I did just happen to stumble upon a Great Movie that I missed 11 years ago.
I didn't know anything about it going in.
I suggest you do not read any comments or watch any previews if you watch this movie.
You really do not want to know anything going in.
I stumbled upon it in the usual way of searching to and fro.
I was probably too busy making money in this time period and the movie didn't gain any traction for me to notice it.
But it is definitely a movie that I will put in my collection, and I highly recommend it.

The odd thing about this movie is the rotten tomato score.
IMDB has it rated better.
I figured this movie might be really good when I watched 10 seconds of the preview.
The Classical Music and Art Dealings hooked me immediately.
Geffory Rush is pretty damn good at what he does as well.

The Best Offer (2013)
Geoffrey Rush
Jim Sturgess
Donald Sutherland

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I don't think I saw this one - it sounds familiar, so I may have watched the trailer during that time. I am planning to watch it and thanks for the reco.

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I did just happen to stumble upon a Great Movie that I missed 11 years ago.
I didn't know anything about it going in.
I suggest you do not read any comments or watch any previews if you watch this movie.
You really do not want to know anything going in.
I stumbled upon it in the usual way of searching to and fro.
I was probably too busy making money in this time period and the movie didn't gain any traction for me to notice it.
But it is definitely a movie that I will put in my collection, and I highly recommend it.

The odd thing about this movie is the rotten tomato score.
IMDB has it rated better.
I figured this movie might be really good when I watched 10 seconds of the preview.
The Classical Music and Art Dealings hooked me immediately.
Geffory Rush is pretty damn good at what he does as well.

The Best Offer (2013)
Geoffrey Rush
Jim Sturgess
Donald Sutherland

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I watched it, but I will probably rewatch it because the Youtube version I watched has poor sound. I downloaded the movie from gomovies, so it should run cleaner if I watch it again. In any case, as you wrote, it was an excellent movie. One of my favorite things about the movie is how some of the pieces fall together retrospectively after the viewing. For example, during an auction one of the bidders gets super pissed that Billy (Donald Sutherland) has the winning bid on a painting since she was not observed making her bid after Billy by Virgil during the auction. She then says something like "I am the biggest collector of this person's reproductions (forgeries)". Well after the movie, it came to me that the primary reason she was absolutely furious is because she had figured out sometime before (perhaps years before) that Virgil (with Billy shilling) was passing off real paintings as brilliant forgeries and buying them on the cheap using Billy as the shill in the bidding audience - and so Virgil had prevented her from getting her hands on what she knew was a genuine painting (which was super-cheaply priced for the real thing but over-priced if it had been a known forgery).

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I watched it, but I will probably rewatch it because the Youtube version I watched has poor sound. I downloaded the movie from gomovies, so it should run cleaner if I watch it again. In any case, as you wrote, it was an excellent movie. One of my favorite things about the movie is how some of the pieces fall together retrospectively after the viewing. For example, during an auction one of the bidders gets super pissed that Billy (Donald Sutherland) has the winning bid on a painting since she was not observed making her bid after Billy by Virgil during the auction. She then says something like "I am the biggest collector of this person's reproductions (forgeries)". Well after the movie, it came to me that the primary reason she was absolutely furious is because she had figured out sometime before (perhaps years before) that Virgil (with Billy shilling) was passing off real paintings as brilliant forgeries and buying them on the cheap using Billy as the shill in the bidding audience - and so Virgil had prevented her from getting her hands on what she knew was a genuine painting (which was super-cheaply priced for the real thing but over-priced if it had been a known forgery).

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The only reason it worked for me was because I kept teasing my uncle that she was a vampire or demon and was going to do some "Night Gallery" shit on him and he would probably end up in a painting/portrait for all of eternity. I had earlier read that it was a drama, so I was kind of just making the Horror Shit up, but the music was leaning in a Horror direction and the math midget made it a little spookier. So, I wasn't even thinking Con Job till about halfway through the movie. It's not perfect. It's got a lot of cheese to it but it's realistic how even the smartest people can easily get blindsided or hoodwinked. Greed is Good or Greed will beat you in the end. The movie has a very similar vibe as the 2003 movie "Matchstick Men". It's basically the same movie but repackaged. The movie kind of shines with the cinematography, soundtrack and Geoffery Rush's acting. You really believe him in that role. And of-course I like the ending where he loses his mind and thinks that she is going to meet him at that bar/restaurant and finally ends up in a home/asylum. It was just nice to watch a movie that wasn't pushing a woke agenda.

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I kept teasing my uncle that she was a vampire or demon and was going to do some "Night Gallery" shit on him and he would probably end up in a painting/portrait for all of eternity. I had earlier read that it was a drama, so I was kind of just making the Horror Shit up, but the music was leaning in a Horror direction and the math midget made it a little spookier.

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Good call - your uncle was probably quite familiar with Night Gallery since it first aired in the early 70's and Rod Serling was the shit back then.

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The movie has a very similar vibe as the 2003 movie "Matchstick Men". It's basically the same movie but repackaged.

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Great point - yes another conning the con man type thing from Hollywood, except both Matchstick Men and The Best Offer are exceptionally well executed examples of this sub-genre as we observed.

Alright, 70s Double Feature.
Required viewing for Film Buffs.
Heavy Dialog Movies from some of the best actors and writers.
I'll hold back my comments to prevent any spoilers.
The first movie is from the same writer (Paddy Chayefsky) that gave us Network.
Network is the better movie as it goes harder and doesn't disguise itself.
Sorry, that could be considered a spoiler, but the movie/writing is realistic enough.
Google thinks it is part of the Criterion Collection, but I read comments that it isn't.
So, I looked it up in three different locations and it wasn't on any of their lists or channels.
I should mention that Network came out 5 years later.
Chayefsky probably had enough clout now to go harder.
I kept thinking how did they get the Metropolitan Hospital Center, in New York City, to sign off on filming here?
I mean the film is basically blasting the medical profession, lol.
The irony of a hospital getting paid for film rights when they are supposed to be healing people.
Anyways...

The Hospital (1971)
George C. Scott
"We cure nothing! We heal nothing! The whole (censored) wretched world, strangulating in front of our eyes."

In the same vein as our first feature, we get another movie that isn't as good as its predecessor, Five Easy Pieces.
(Five Easy Pieces is damn near a biography of my first 35 years on Earth)
Same Director and his same pal, Jack Nicholson.
We get Bruce Dern as his brother.
He's a bit over the top in this but I've known the type that he is portraying.

The King of Marvin Gardens (1972)

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Alright, 70s Double Feature.
Required viewing for Film Buffs.
Heavy Dialog Movies from some of the best actors and writers.
I'll hold back my comments to prevent any spoilers.
The first movie is from the same writer (Paddy Chayefsky) that gave us Network.
Network is the better movie as it goes harder and doesn't disguise itself.
Sorry, that could be considered a spoiler, but the movie/writing is realistic enough.
Google thinks it is part of the Criterion Collection, but I read comments that it isn't.
So, I looked it up in three different locations and it wasn't on any of their lists or channels.
I should mention that Network came out 5 years later.
Chayefsky probably had enough clout now to go harder.
I kept thinking how did they get the Metropolitan Hospital Center, in New York City, to sign off on filming here?
I mean the film is basically blasting the medical profession, lol.
The irony of a hospital getting paid for film rights when they are supposed to be healing people.
Anyways...

The Hospital (1971)
George C. Scott
"We cure nothing! We heal nothing! The whole (censored) wretched world, strangulating in front of our eyes."

In the same vein as our first feature, we get another movie that isn't as good as its predecessor, Five Easy Pieces.
(Five Easy Pieces is damn near a biography of my first 35 years on Earth)
Same Director and his same pal, Jack Nicholson.
We get Bruce Dern as his brother.
He's a bit over the top in this but I've known the type that he is portraying.

The King of Marvin Gardens (1972)

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Thanks for the recos Monet, I'll check them out.

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The King of Marvin Gardens (1972)

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Ok, I got to hit the boardwalk after the winter break. Nice departure for Jack, who usually plays extroverts - definitely shows his range and why he is famous. thanks again for the reco M8.

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The King of Marvin Gardens (1972)

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Ok, I got to hit the boardwalk after the winter break. Nice departure for Jack, who usually plays extroverts - definitely shows his range and why he is famous. thanks again for the reco M8.

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No Worries.
Nice Catch with the Picture and PokeRino by the way!
I was going through more movies from the 70s.
It dawned on me that the 70s were far more diverse than the 2020's.
So many films that were produced by black men and black actors.
Here are a couple I think you might enjoy, if you haven't already.

Across 110th Street (1972) Anthony Quinn - Yaphet Kotto
"If you steal 300,000 from the mob, it's not robbery. It's Suicide!

The Wilby Conspiracy (1975)
Sidney Poitier
Michael Caine

Might as well throw in one more to complete the trifecta...

The Organization (1971)
Sidney Poitier as Virgil Tibbs

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Here are a couple I think you might enjoy, if you haven't already.

Across 110th Street (1972) Anthony Quinn - Yaphet Kotto
"If you steal 300,000 from the mob, it's not robbery. It's Suicide!

The Wilby Conspiracy (1975)
Sidney Poitier
Michael Caine

Might as well throw in one more to complete the trifecta...

The Organization (1971)
Sidney Poitier as Virgil Tibbs

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Thanks for the recos Monet, I haven't seen these, or don't remember seeing them at first glance and will check them out.

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Across 110th Street (1972) Anthony Quinn - Yaphet Kotto
"If you steal 300,000 from the mob, it's not robbery. It's Suicide!

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Now that was some brutal shit. One of the main takes I got from this movie was that if you can get a hold of an automatic weapon, you can prolong your life for a few more minutes. Also, Campbell Soup can get you from being sick in bed, to running around rooftops, climbing fire escapes and taking out mobsters and cops with an automatic weapon in no time flat. Plenty of realistic elements too, like how a cop can be on the take, but also still have an interest in getting criminals. Great scenery of 70's New York City.

I appreciate the reco.

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Across 110th Street (1972) Anthony Quinn - Yaphet Kotto
"If you steal 300,000 from the mob, it's not robbery. It's Suicide!

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Now that was some brutal shit. One of the main takes I got from this movie was that if you can get a hold of an automatic weapon, you can prolong your life for a few more minutes. Also, Campbell Soup can get you from being sick in bed, to running around rooftops, climbing fire escapes and taking out mobsters and cops with an automatic weapon in no time flat. Plenty of realistic elements too, like how a cop can be on the take, but also still have an interest in getting criminals. Great scenery of 70's New York City.

I appreciate the reco.

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lul, well it wasn't Campbells Soup even though I know you were kidding.
He was an epileptic, and his girl brought his medicine to him.
I get the feeling that he had some time to take a few doses, rest and eat a little bit.
Anyways, I enjoyed the movie too.
Very Raw with a lot of real life derogatory language.

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I watched Oppenheimer today and my gut feelings about the movie were wrong.
It's highly entertaining at times.
Good Musical Score.
Nice Cinematography with some nice wide-angle shots.
I do not see the reason for the sex scene on the chair in the backdoor court room.
I get it though.
Sex Sales.
That scene is just a bit uncomfortable since everyone else is dressed in the room and his wife is right there.
I get it.
Shock Value.
Another problem with the movie is the ongoing music.
They don't need to run 3-hour long music constantly during the film.
It would be more impactful in many of those scenes if it was just dialog and no music.
Nolan really went cray cray with never-ending pulse pounding epic music.
It's good but it also gets annoying after a while, being that the movie is 3 hours long.
I held out a long time but glad I finally viewed it.
I think that if you watch the Paul Newman version Fat Man and Little Boy (1989) first that it compliments what Nolan was doing here.
It kind of reinforces this newer version.
In my opinion, Oppenheimer is the better version of this story.
But I don't mind long winded movies.

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I watched Oppenheimer today and my gut feelings about the movie were wrong.
It's highly entertaining at times.
Good Musical Score.
Nice Cinematography with some nice wide-angle shots.
I do not see the reason for the sex scene on the chair in the backdoor court room.
I get it though.
Sex Sales.
That scene is just a bit uncomfortable since everyone else is dressed in the room and his wife is right there.
I get it.
Shock Value.
Another problem with the movie is the ongoing music.
They don't need to run 3-hour long music constantly during the film.
It would be more impactful in many of those scenes if it was just dialog and no music.
Nolan really went cray cray with never-ending pulse pounding epic music.
It's good but it also gets annoying after a while, being that the movie is 3 hours long.
I held out a long time but glad I finally viewed it.
I think that if you watch the Paul Newman version Fat Man and Little Boy (1989) first that it compliments what Nolan was doing here.
It kind of reinforces this newer version.
In my opinion, Oppenheimer is the better version of this story.
But I don't mind long winded movies.

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I couldn't get past the politics of Oppenheimer. Probably an expectations sort of thing. I mean, of course there were politics and scheming present during the effort to make The Bomb, but my interest in physics created a desire for the movie to have a lot more of that element, which it didn't. Anyway thanks for the Fat Man and Little Boy reco - I didn't see that one if my memory serves me, so I am looking forward to watching it.

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I watched Oppenheimer today and my gut feelings about the movie were wrong.
It's highly entertaining at times.
Good Musical Score.
Nice Cinematography with some nice wide-angle shots.
I do not see the reason for the sex scene on the chair in the backdoor court room.
I get it though.
Sex Sales.
That scene is just a bit uncomfortable since everyone else is dressed in the room and his wife is right there.
I get it.
Shock Value.
Another problem with the movie is the ongoing music.
They don't need to run 3-hour long music constantly during the film.
It would be more impactful in many of those scenes if it was just dialog and no music.
Nolan really went cray cray with never-ending pulse pounding epic music.
It's good but it also gets annoying after a while, being that the movie is 3 hours long.
I held out a long time but glad I finally viewed it.
I think that if you watch the Paul Newman version Fat Man and Little Boy (1989) first that it compliments what Nolan was doing here.
It kind of reinforces this newer version.
In my opinion, Oppenheimer is the better version of this story.
But I don't mind long winded movies.

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I couldn't get past the politics of Oppenheimer. Probably an expectations sort of thing. I mean, of course there were politics and scheming present during the effort to make The Bomb, but my interest in physics created a desire for the movie to have a lot more of that element, which it didn't. Anyway thanks for the Fat Man and Little Boy reco - I didn't see that one if my memory serves me, so I am looking forward to watching it.

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Better than most of the trash they release today.
I didn't take it too seriously.
I hope Horizon is better but it's probably about the same level.
No hurry to go see it.
Wait for Streaming, so I can be comfortable and pause when necessary.
I watched SaltBurn the other day.
Had to fast forward some of the sick, disgusting scenes.
Most of the ending was just sick, shock-factor, fast-forward for me.
Talented Mr. Ripley did it first and better.
I watched it mainly to get a look inside the Drayton House, where they filmed it.

(lul I think you watched Fat Man. John Cusack turns into a Radioactive Monster, just like in modern day real life, lol.)

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I watched Oppenheimer today and my gut feelings about the movie were wrong.
It's highly entertaining at times.
Good Musical Score.
Nice Cinematography with some nice wide-angle shots.
I do not see the reason for the sex scene on the chair in the backdoor court room.
I get it though.
Sex Sales.
That scene is just a bit uncomfortable since everyone else is dressed in the room and his wife is right there.
I get it.
Shock Value.
Another problem with the movie is the ongoing music.
They don't need to run 3-hour long music constantly during the film.
It would be more impactful in many of those scenes if it was just dialog and no music.
Nolan really went cray cray with never-ending pulse pounding epic music.
It's good but it also gets annoying after a while, being that the movie is 3 hours long.
I held out a long time but glad I finally viewed it.
I think that if you watch the Paul Newman version Fat Man and Little Boy (1989) first that it compliments what Nolan was doing here.
It kind of reinforces this newer version.
In my opinion, Oppenheimer is the better version of this story.
But I don't mind long winded movies.

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I couldn't get past the politics of Oppenheimer. Probably an expectations sort of thing. I mean, of course there were politics and scheming present during the effort to make The Bomb, but my interest in physics created a desire for the movie to have a lot more of that element, which it didn't. Anyway thanks for the Fat Man and Little Boy reco - I didn't see that one if my memory serves me, so I am looking forward to watching it.

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Better than most of the trash they release today.
I didn't take it too seriously.
I hope Horizon is better but it's probably about the same level.
No hurry to go see it.
Wait for Streaming, so I can be comfortable and pause when necessary.
I watched SaltBurn the other day.
Had to fast forward some of the sick, disgusting scenes.
Most of the ending was just sick, shock-factor, fast-forward for me.
Talented Mr. Ripley did it first and better.
I watched it mainly to get a look inside the Drayton House, where they filmed it.

(lul I think you watched Fat Man. John Cusack turns into a Radioactive Monster, just like in modern day real life, lol.)

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Well, I downloaded Fat Man and Little Boy yesterday, so, once I start watching it, I'll likely know in the beginning moments of the film if I already watched it at some point. Speaking of the Talented Mr. Ripley, I watched the Netflix TV series version (IIRC it was eight episodes or so) a few months back. There was nothing really wrong with it, but it didn't come close to the film version with Matt Damon IMHO.

It turned out that I hadn't seen Fat Man and Little Boy Monet. I enjoyed the movie. There was a lot more interaction between A-team TV series member Oppenheimer (Dwight Schultz) and General Groves in this 1989 offering than there was in the new one IIRC. Another great performance by John C. "Wallstreet" McGinley. Another big difference (IIRC) was that in the new movie, it was only revealed by General Groves to Oppenheimer towards the end of the new movie that the Nazi's didn't have a nuke, whereas in this 1989 version, Oppenheimer learned this earlier (say a little more than halfway in). Basically, pretty different takes on the whole deal between the two movies. Thanks again for the reco.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of Bikers or Motorcycle Clubs.
But my dad was, and uncle enjoys watching that sort of thing.
So, I go and buy the streaming version of the Bike Riders for 25 bux.
I figure it's cheaper than going to the movies and give us some entertainment.
Welp, WRONG... lol, I made it 20 minutes till I turned that whiny bitch off.
Movie is told from some Biker Wife Perspective, and we all know I am pretty much part of the Woman Haters Club.
I do love women, but I hate them when they can't shut the fuck up or when they are in leadership roles.
And I hate them in the workforce.
Just causes way too many problems.
Anyways, the movie constantly skips around, and she never shuts up.
Horrible way to tell a story.
Too Bad since Tom Hardy is a pretty good actor.

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Personally, I'm not a big fan of Bikers or Motorcycle Clubs.
But my dad was, and uncle enjoys watching that sort of thing.
So, I go and buy the streaming version of the Bike Riders for 25 bux.
I figure it's cheaper than going to the movies and give us some entertainment.
Welp, WRONG... lol, I made it 20 minutes till I turned that whiny bitch off.
Movie is told from some Biker Wife Perspective, and we all know I am pretty much part of the Woman Haters Club.
I do love women, but I hate them when they can't shut the fuck up or when they are in leadership roles.
And I hate them in the workforce.
Just causes way too many problems.
Anyways, the movie constantly skips around, and she never shuts up.
Horrible way to tell a story.
Too Bad since Tom Hardy is a pretty good actor.

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Thanks Monet. Given that your uncle had no problem with a termination at 20 minutes (and he likes Biker-themed movies), it must have been extremely bad versus someone indifferent to the Genre like yourself (or myself as well) discontinuing the movie.
I did really like the movie The Warriors (1979) as I may have mentioned, however that was from the more general Genre of Gangs as opposed to Biker Gangs.
Well in mid-august they will release another Alien movie (Romulus) which I am planning to watch, so hopefully it will be entertaining.

I'm convinced that the movie FIGHT CLUB was a remake of this movie.
What I don't understand is the CIA had his phone tapped and was randomly surveying him.
It's around the 30-minute mark.
I guess they weren't too worried about him, and they got a little sloppy or he circumvented them in some manner.
Still not sure how they don't put two and two together.
Guess they were going along with the "invisible" theme and that black people can't be smart enough to organize in that manner.
The racial stereotypes and slurs made me laugh, every time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXw7zsye1HQ

Worth a watch if you like George Peppard (which I do).
I would have rewritten the third act with more twists and turns.
Better than any new movie.
Gotta love Peppard smoking in the hospital and drinking while interrogating.

The Groundstar Conspiracy (1972)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjZLTQUxYdw

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I'm convinced that the movie FIGHT CLUB was a remake of this movie.
What I don't understand is the CIA had his phone tapped and was randomly surveying him.
It's around the 30-minute mark.
I guess they weren't too worried about him, and they got a little sloppy or he circumvented them in some manner.
Still not sure how they don't put two and two together.
Guess they were going along with the "invisible" theme and that black people can't be smart enough to organize in that manner.
The racial stereotypes and slurs made me laugh, every time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXw7zsye1HQ

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Herbie Hancock composed and conducted the score - that merits a watch just by itself. Thanks for reco.

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Worth a watch if you like George Peppard (which I do).
I would have rewritten the third act with more twists and turns.
Better than any new movie.
Gotta love Peppard smoking in the hospital and drinking while interrogating.

The Groundstar Conspiracy (1972)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjZLTQUxYdw

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Thanks for the reco M8. Yes, Banacek is great - I'll check it out.

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Worth a watch if you like George Peppard (which I do).
I would have rewritten the third act with more twists and turns.
Better than any new movie.
Gotta love Peppard smoking in the hospital and drinking while interrogating.

The Groundstar Conspiracy (1972)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjZLTQUxYdw

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I watched this movie using the link you kindly provided. I enjoyed the twists the movie took as I figured John Welles was not a government agent hired to forget his identity to ferret out the buyers (as was actually the case), but rather either a crook who forgot his identity or a wrongfully accused victim. At no point did I think he was under the employ of Tuxen until it was simply revealed at the end.

Thanks again for the reco.

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Worth a watch if you like George Peppard (which I do).
I would have rewritten the third act with more twists and turns.
Better than any new movie.
Gotta love Peppard smoking in the hospital and drinking while interrogating.

The Groundstar Conspiracy (1972)

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I watched this movie using the link you kindly provided. I enjoyed the twists the movie took as I figured John Welles was not a government agent hired to forget his identity to ferret out the buyers (as was actually the case), but rather either a crook who forgot his identity or a wrongfully accused victim. At no point did I think he was under the employ of Tuxen until it was simply revealed at the end.

Thanks again for the reco.

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I thought the movie did a pretty good job at keeping the viewer guessing.
I figured the woman was in on it in some fashion because she was so quick to help and get into an intimate relationship with him.
I was a bit disappointed that she wasn't working for one side or the other.
I wasn't too happy about Peppard's idea of putting a camera in everyone's home and recording all our conversations.
But I guess that's what the government is actually doing nowadays.
The book and movies "1984" are literal documentaries.

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I figured the woman was in on it in some fashion because she was so quick to help and get into an intimate relationship with him.
I was a bit disappointed that she wasn't working for one side or the other.

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Indeed. I'm glad you mentioned that. That was another element of the unpredictability that made the movie interesting. Also, I wrongfully thought the military research facility used extensively throughout this movie (Simon Fraser University in reality) was also the same complex used in the 1972 film Conquest Planet of the Apes movie (University of California Irvine in reality).

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I figured the woman was in on it in some fashion because she was so quick to help and get into an intimate relationship with him.
I was a bit disappointed that she wasn't working for one side or the other.

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Indeed. I'm glad you mentioned that. That was another element of the unpredictability that made the movie interesting. Also, I wrongfully thought the military research facility used extensively throughout this movie (Simon Fraser University in reality) was also the same complex used in the 1972 film Conquest Planet of the Apes movie (University of California Irvine in reality).

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Good Looking Out with the Fun Fact!
Here's another one.
Banaceck TV Series ran for 2 seasons over 3 years.
It supposedly had 17 episodes, but I read 18 on one source.
Perhaps a typo.
The show was a hit, so why did it end?
Peppard was in a messy divorce and the ex-wife would have been entitled to a large sum of the earnings.
So, in Peppard Fashion, he quit, cutting her out.
Also, mentalist Banachek (different spelling) used the name because they kept forgetting his real name.
And back to Peppard, even though he contradicted himself in words and actions, I always liked his style.
I'm not a fan of this V-neck that he is wearing.
I like how he is bitching about NBC and the Police State, but I don't like that he signed the contracts and played ball.
I do like that he is unfiltered.

Full Version Below or the Edited Version which is much quicker to watch...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AclXvT-_8-k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxLup1YvtPs

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I figured the woman was in on it in some fashion because she was so quick to help and get into an intimate relationship with him.
I was a bit disappointed that she wasn't working for one side or the other.

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Indeed. I'm glad you mentioned that. That was another element of the unpredictability that made the movie interesting. Also, I wrongfully thought the military research facility used extensively throughout this movie (Simon Fraser University in reality) was also the same complex used in the 1972 film Conquest Planet of the Apes movie (University of California Irvine in reality).

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Good Looking Out with the Fun Fact!
Here's another one.
Banaceck TV Series ran for 2 seasons over 3 years.
It supposedly had 17 episodes, but I read 18 on one source.
Perhaps a typo.
The show was a hit, so why did it end?
Peppard was in a messy divorce and the ex-wife would have been entitled to a large sum of the earnings.
So, in Peppard Fashion, he quit, cutting her out.
Also, mentalist Banachek (different spelling) used the name because they kept forgetting his real name.
And back to Peppard, even though he contradicted himself in words and actions, I always liked his style.
I'm not a fan of this V-neck that he is wearing.
I like how he is bitching about NBC and the Police State, but I don't like that he signed the contracts and played ball.
I do like that he is unfiltered.

Full Version Below or the Edited Version which is much quicker to watch...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AclXvT-_8-k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxLup1YvtPs

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Great stuff Monet, thanks for the link and facts. They simply wouldn't air an episode if something like that went down on a game show made today. I remember on some of the popular game shows of the 70s and 80s, that the hosts and contestants would say all sorts of great stuff. Bob Eubanks insulted contestants' appearances on Card Sharks every so often. And on an episode of Classic Concentration, a guy added a sewing machine to his potential board of prizes (which get collected when you solve the rebus as you may know) - when Alex Trebek asked the guy if he wanted to learn to sew, the guy told Alex it was women's work. And the female contestant he was playing against told him that it was sexist to say that, and the audience booed the guy. Thereafter, on that episode, Alex relentlessly ribbed the guy (who actually won that game against the lady).

Continuing on with my Peppard kick.
It's free.
It's something to watch if you're bored.
Cop Movie.
I think Tarantino said this movie is what inspired the Dirty Harry, Clint Eastwood films.
Peppard smoking cigarettes, drinking whiskey and slapping women.
It doesn't get any better than this lol.

Pendulum 1969

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqlWNsBJpLg&t=339s

Ran into this quote from Michale Mann and the TV Show Vega$.
Imagine if the leisure suits didn't take over the show.
It may have been 10x better and grittier like the movie Thief.

Michael Mann was credited as the creator, although he only had one writing credit for the show with the pilot film in "High Roller", which aired on April 25, 1978.
Mann reflected on the show in 2012 on his idea for the show and his feelings on the production.

“I could see the writing on the wall pretty early on when what I called the ‘leisure-suit brigade’ moved in [as producers working for Aaron Spelling] and took over the show. It very quickly became more fluffy. Urich was fine, he was a good performer who could have done the role the way I envisioned it, but he also fit the more breezy, lightweight style they wanted. But I had something more radical in mind. Vega$ was important for me because it began my interest in twilight zones, in areas of activity that were ignored by mass America, for the most part, and that were in the process of change—in this case, the 1950s and ’60s, when Vegas was undergoing a transition from an Outfit-controlled [i.e., organized crime] landscape to a G-rated grind-house. “Las Vegas itself was a wonderful place for a dramatist, because people going to Vegas were still inventing their own dramas when they set foot in the town: They could become whoever they wanted to be, act that out. As a setting, it was a desert with no intrinsic meaning. I saw how things worked while doing research there, clues in the smallest details: You’d see a guy pull up in his car to check into one of the hotels, and a valet would approach him and if the guy reached into his pocket for his wallet, for a tip, the valet started walking faster. If the guy didn’t go for his pocket, or he came out empty-handed, the valet would slow down, even walk away. [Laughs] Stuff like that, I loved: It was so honest that everything was so mercenary!”

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Continuing on with my Peppard kick.
It's free.
It's something to watch if you're bored.
Cop Movie.
I think Tarantino said this movie is what inspired the Dirty Harry, Clint Eastwood films.
Peppard smoking cigarettes, drinking whiskey and slapping women.
It doesn't get any better than this lol.

Pendulum 1969

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqlWNsBJpLg&t=339s

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Ok, great, I haven't seen this one or at least don't remember seeing it, so I'm in. Thanks for the reco. Shit, we might end up watching all the A-team episodes again at this rate (actually I don't think I saw all of the episodes of the A-team back when it aired).

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Ran into this quote from Michale Mann and the TV Show Vega$.
Imagine if the leisure suits didn't take over the show.
It may have been 10x better and grittier like the movie Thief.

Michael Mann was credited as the creator, although he only had one writing credit for the show with the pilot film in "High Roller", which aired on April 25, 1978.
Mann reflected on the show in 2012 on his idea for the show and his feelings on the production.

“I could see the writing on the wall pretty early on when what I called the ‘leisure-suit brigade’ moved in [as producers working for Aaron Spelling] and took over the show. It very quickly became more fluffy. Urich was fine, he was a good performer who could have done the role the way I envisioned it, but he also fit the more breezy, lightweight style they wanted. But I had something more radical in mind. Vega$ was important for me because it began my interest in twilight zones, in areas of activity that were ignored by mass America, for the most part, and that were in the process of change—in this case, the 1950s and ’60s, when Vegas was undergoing a transition from an Outfit-controlled [i.e., organized crime] landscape to a G-rated grind-house. “Las Vegas itself was a wonderful place for a dramatist, because people going to Vegas were still inventing their own dramas when they set foot in the town: They could become whoever they wanted to be, act that out. As a setting, it was a desert with no intrinsic meaning. I saw how things worked while doing research there, clues in the smallest details: You’d see a guy pull up in his car to check into one of the hotels, and a valet would approach him and if the guy reached into his pocket for his wallet, for a tip, the valet started walking faster. If the guy didn’t go for his pocket, or he came out empty-handed, the valet would slow down, even walk away. [Laughs] Stuff like that, I loved: It was so honest that everything was so mercenary!”

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Thanks for posting this. One thing that really stood out to me about the Vegas TV series was how the intro theme music that started off each episode absolutely fit the show thematically.

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Ok, great, I haven't seen this one or at least don't remember seeing it, so I'm in. Thanks for the reco. Shit, we might end up watching all the A-team episodes again at this rate (actually I don't think I saw all of the episodes of the A-team back when it aired).

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I have the A-Team Box Set.
Peppard said in an interview that he got bored after season one.
He continued on because the money was good, and he finally got out of debt.
I enjoyed the first 3 seasons.
Seasons 4 and 5 lost its charm for me after they introduced new characters and changed the formula.

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Ok, great, I haven't seen this one or at least don't remember seeing it, so I'm in. Thanks for the reco. Shit, we might end up watching all the A-team episodes again at this rate (actually I don't think I saw all of the episodes of the A-team back when it aired).

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I have the A-Team Box Set.
Peppard said in an interview that he got bored after season one.
He continued on because the money was good, and he finally got out of debt.
I enjoyed the first 3 seasons.
Seasons 4 and 5 lost its charm for me after they introduced new characters and changed the formula.

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Great info Monet, thanks. Stephen J. Cannell Productions for the win.

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Continuing on with my Peppard kick.
It's free.
It's something to watch if you're bored.
Cop Movie.
I think Tarantino said this movie is what inspired the Dirty Harry, Clint Eastwood films.
Peppard smoking cigarettes, drinking whiskey and slapping women.
It doesn't get any better than this lol.

Pendulum 1969

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I have to agree with Tarantino here. In particular, the 1st Dirty Harry film (Dirty Harry, 1971), where a complete nutjob (shown below) gets soft treatment by the law and then goes on to commit additional mayhem (kidnapping and traumatizing the bus full of kids and the bus driver, etc.). Peppard doesn't fuck around - he evades arrest and proves his own innocence by going to the murderer/rapist's mom's place where the killer is staying (so what if killer's mom looks the same age as the killer) saving himself huge attorney's fees potentially and a possible wrongful conviction. These independent spirit films are inspiring. That's the same reason I like the Dirty Harry and the Escape from New York/LA movies so much. Thanks again for the reco - I enjoyed the film.

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I have to agree with Tarantino here. In particular, the 1st Dirty Harry film (Dirty Harry, 1971), where a complete nutjob (shown below) gets soft treatment by the law and then goes on to commit additional mayhem (kidnapping and traumatizing the bus full of kids and the bus driver, etc.). Peppard doesn't fuck around - he evades arrest and proves his own innocence by going to the murderer/rapist's mom's place where the killer is staying (so what if killer's mom looks the same age as the killer) saving himself huge attorney's fees potentially and a possible wrongful conviction. These independent spirit films are inspiring. That's the same reason I like the Dirty Harry and the Escape from New York/LA movies so much. Thanks again for the reco - I enjoyed the film.

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Yeah, that movie is very simple and straightforward, but it has a lot of complexity to it.
It's so realistic how all the people that have known you for 14 years will turn on you in an instant.
His wife is literally killed in his apartment, and nobody gave a shit, lol.
He literally lost every partner and friend overnight.
They would have lynched him if it was 100 years prior.
It really showed how corrupt and phony the system really is.
Especially the so called "Justice" System.
Lucky it was the 60s.
In many states today they would have jailed him for resisting arrest and obstructing justice not to mention some other charges.

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It's so realistic how all the people that have known you for 14 years will turn on you in an instant.
His wife is literally killed in his apartment, and nobody gave a shit, lol.
He literally lost every partner and friend overnight.

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Excellent point. The only one that didn't turn on him was the housekeeper. The big lesson from this movie is just how easily an event outside one's control can ruin their life. If a very unlikely event happens (or more than one), you're done (homelessness, severe injury, death). All the innocent people that have been incarcerated for life or for decades can identify with this film. There is always a large supply of morons available to apathetically discard the improbable.

On a lighter note, I used to think that Commodore character (William Windom) in the Doomsday Machine episode of Star Trek (Season 2, Episode 6) was Peppard, when I was a kid. But, of course it's not - it's a vastly inferior prototype.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9djuORzi9rU

Welp, since you brought Star Trek into the mix, we might as well feature this movie.
I haven't watched it yet, but it was supposed to be bigger than Star Wars.
Of course it wasn't.
Supposedly the studios took a million dollars out of the Star Wars Budget for this film.
YouTube has 4 or 5 uploads if this one isn't working.
George Peppard and Jan Michael Vincent in:

Damnation Alley (1977)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4eIKx2LEPU&t=4s

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Welp, since you brought Star Trek into the mix, we might as well feature this movie.
I haven't watched it yet, but it was supposed to be bigger than Star Wars.
Of course it wasn't.
Supposedly the studios took a million dollars out of the Star Wars Budget for this film
Damnation Alley (1977)

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Alright, I got some bad information about this movie.
lol... I can't believe I watched the entire thing.
I have no idea why Peppard decided to do some sort of Southern Accent for this movie.
I have no clue how this movie got greenlit.
At least the actors got paid.
I do think the Book of Eli stole some ideas from Damnation Alley, lol.

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Welp, since you brought Star Trek into the mix, we might as well feature this movie.
I haven't watched it yet, but it was supposed to be bigger than Star Wars.
Of course it wasn't.
Supposedly the studios took a million dollars out of the Star Wars Budget for this film
Damnation Alley (1977)

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Alright, I got some bad information about this movie.
lol... I can't believe I watched the entire thing.
I have no idea why Peppard decided to do some sort of Southern Accent for this movie.
I have no clue how this movie got greenlit.
At least the actors got paid.
I do think the Book of Eli stole some ideas from Damnation Alley, lol.

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Thanks for the reco Monet. I saw this movie a few years (maybe 7 or 8 years, but I don't remember for certain) after it came out. It gets shown every once in awhile on TV. I guess they figured that they could just coast on Jan-Michael Vincent's mega-star power of the time (The World's Greatest Athlete, The Mechanic, etc.). One of my favorite authors is Roger Zelazny (you may recall that he wrote the famous The Chronicles of Amber series). This movie was based on the book Damnation Alley as you may recall. The book wasn't one of Zelazny's best, but the movie doesn't even respect this mediocre effort (comparatively speaking) of Zelazny's.

A few words must be written here about Jan-Michael Vincent since his story has to be one of the biggest tragedies of all time in Hollywood. This dude was on top of the world in the mid-70's as you know. He had it totally made. He could have any woman he wanted for example at that time. But alcohol totally ruined him. I mean words can't even describe how badly this guy got wrecked. Some of his final straight to VHS movies make Damnation Alley look like The Godfather by comparison. When he died somewhere in the South a few years, back, it wasn't until a couple weeks later that people other than from that little town he lived knew about it. And this guy was a world-wide megastar as mentioned above. I mean, it would have been like if when Michael Jackson died, that the tabloids and MSM didn't know about the death until a couple weeks later.

Beetlejuice Beetlejuice review - I saw this movie yesterday.
Pluses:
1. Willem Dafoe and Danny Devito are in the movie.
2. Several nice attacks on the woke.
3. Michael Keaton doesn't miss a beat in reprising his role as Beetlejuice (same with Winona Rider's character Lydia and Lydia's mother Delia) and overall the movie adheres to the template of the original

Minuses:
1. While the movie does adhere to the original template reasonably, they played it safe and didn't put many new elements into it to go along with the solid foundation of yesteryear
2. They had to skirt around the fact that Jeffrey Jones (Lydia's father/Delia's husband) is not in the movie (they just have a ghoulish likeness of him) - they should just not have included his likeness at all IMHO.
3. Adheres to the unpleasant faster pace of today's low attention span audience.


Overall rating IMHO is 6/10 (not that bad and good for a laugh or two).

Please disregard this post if you have seen this movie.

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Beetlejuice Beetlejuice review - I saw this movie yesterday.
Pluses:
1. Willem Dafoe and Danny Devito are in the movie.
2. Several nice attacks on the woke.
3. Michael Keaton doesn't miss a beat in reprising his role as Beetlejuice (same with Winona Rider's character Lydia and Lydia's mother Delia) and overall the movie adheres to the template of the original

Minuses:
1. While the movie does adhere to the original template reasonably, they played it safe and didn't put many new elements into it to go along with the solid foundation of yesteryear
2. They had to skirt around the fact that Jeffrey Jones (Lydia's father/Delia's husband) is not in the movie (they just have a ghoulish likeness of him) - they should just not have included his likeness at all IMHO.
3. Adheres to the unpleasant faster pace of today's low attention span audience.


Overall rating IMHO is 6/10 (not that bad and good for a laugh or two).

Please disregard this post if you have seen this movie.

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Thanks for the review.
I have bad nightmares as it is.
I cannot watch horror movies as they will enhance said nightmares.

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Beetlejuice Beetlejuice review - I saw this movie yesterday.
Pluses:
1. Willem Dafoe and Danny Devito are in the movie.
2. Several nice attacks on the woke.
3. Michael Keaton doesn't miss a beat in reprising his role as Beetlejuice (same with Winona Rider's character Lydia and Lydia's mother Delia) and overall the movie adheres to the template of the original

Minuses:
1. While the movie does adhere to the original template reasonably, they played it safe and didn't put many new elements into it to go along with the solid foundation of yesteryear
2. They had to skirt around the fact that Jeffrey Jones (Lydia's father/Delia's husband) is not in the movie (they just have a ghoulish likeness of him) - they should just not have included his likeness at all IMHO.
3. Adheres to the unpleasant faster pace of today's low attention span audience.


Overall rating IMHO is 6/10 (not that bad and good for a laugh or two).

Please disregard this post if you have seen this movie.

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Thanks for the review.
I have bad nightmares as it is.
I cannot watch horror movies as they will enhance said nightmares.

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Sure no problem Monet.

I just watched The Killer (2023).
Unspeakably Bad.
I knew I was in trouble after the first 5 minutes.
After 20 minutes of endless narration, I contemplated my own suicide.
There's an old rule with movie making and narration.
The rule is to never use it.
Anyways, I thought maybe this is a spoof?
We have the best contract killer in the world standing endlessly in front of a window.
The only light he has is a very bright construction light that he points directly at himself while he assembles his rifle in plain sight?
He makes 20 more mistakes before we find out that he lives with some beaner nobody that he cares for.
The guy who says that his motto is that he doesn't give a Fuck basically has a wife that he loves??
Makes no sense.
The movie continues on with constant blunders and narration.
He literally just hires some regular people to clean up the blood and glass at his house.
And he stores all of his criminal contraband inside of public storage units?
That makes sense, lol??
Not to mention that he sleeps in his car outside of his marks house for hours on end.
He follows directly behind the woman he is going to kill but she doesn't even notice.
She's a pro too... LOL.
He even decides to drink whiskey, that could have easily been poison, with her.
You think, ok... got to be some big payoff in the end that blindsides you.
Nope.
He doesn't even kill the Client.
He ends up going back to the same house with the same woman and everyone knows where he lives.
I spent 30 minutes on IMDB reading all the 1-star reviews just to make sure I wasn't losing my mind.
Turns out we are right and whoever rated that movie a 7 out of 10 is getting paid.

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I just watched The Killer (2023).
Unspeakably Bad.
I knew I was in trouble after the first 5 minutes.
After 20 minutes of endless narration, I contemplated my own suicide.
There's an old rule with movie making and narration.
The rule is to never use it.
Anyways, I thought maybe this is a spoof?
We have the best contract killer in the world standing endlessly in front of a window.
The only light he has is a very bright construction light that he points directly at himself while he assembles his rifle in plain sight?
He makes 20 more mistakes before we find out that he lives with some beaner nobody that he cares for.
The guy who says that his motto is that he doesn't give a Fuck basically has a wife that he loves??
Makes no sense.
The movie continues on with constant blunders and narration.
He literally just hires some regular people to clean up the blood and glass at his house.
And he stores all of his criminal contraband inside of public storage units?
That makes sense, lol??
Not to mention that he sleeps in his car outside of his marks house for hours on end.
He follows directly behind the woman he is going to kill but she doesn't even notice.
She's a pro too... LOL.
He even decides to drink whiskey, that could have easily been poison, with her.
You think, ok... got to be some big payoff in the end that blindsides you.
Nope.
He doesn't even kill the Client.
He ends up going back to the same house with the same woman and everyone knows where he lives.
I spent 30 minutes on IMDB reading all the 1-star reviews just to make sure I wasn't losing my mind.
Turns out we are right and whoever rated that movie a 7 out of 10 is getting paid.

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Thanks for the heads up Monet. I won't be seeing that movie.

Yesterday, I saw the movie Blink Twice (2024) starring Channing Tatum and Naomi Ackie. Please disregard what follows if you have seen this movie. The movie is unpalatably woke. I figured since Christian Slater and Geena Davis are in the movie, that it might be some decent modern take on Eyes Wide Shut. They went with the Epstein Island motif. They get some shit right, but a bunch of young women aren't going to get the better of some evil Billionaire and his people. Since it's woke, they had to make sure to use ethnic women and they had to make sure that they are able to best the billionaire (Channing Tatum). Drugging people and using them as sex slaves on a remote private island does happen all the time (one of the reasons for the open southern border is so that the wealthy can kidnap large numbers of anonymous people from the endless supply of them for their evil, sadistic pleasures without even leaving the country), but at least make the film realistic. I rate this film as 1.5/10.


I finally saw Alien: Romulus a few days ago, but it is woke and in the horror genre anyway so I didn't reco it. I wasn't going to post about Blink Twice since it was a terrible movie, but since I was logged in and reading the movie thread, I threw it in there as a heads up.

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Yesterday, I saw the movie Blink Twice (2024) starring Channing Tatum and Naomi Ackie. Please disregard what follows if you have seen this movie. The movie is unpalatably woke. I figured since Christian Slater and Geena Davis are in the movie, that it might be some decent modern take on Eyes Wide Shut. They went with the Epstein Island motif. They get some shit right, but a bunch of young women aren't going to get the better of some evil Billionaire and his people. Since it's woke, they had to make sure to use ethnic women and they had to make sure that they are able to best the billionaire (Channing Tatum). Drugging people and using them as sex slaves on a remote private island does happen all the time (one of the reasons for the open southern border is so that the wealthy can kidnap large numbers of anonymous people from the endless supply of them for their evil, sadistic pleasures without even leaving the country), but at least make the film realistic. I rate this film as 1.5/10.


I finally saw Alien: Romulus a few days ago, but it is woke and in the horror genre anyway so I didn't reco it. I wasn't going to post about Blink Twice since it was a terrible movie, but since I was logged in and reading the movie thread, I threw it in there as a heads up.

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I watched a couple of movies last night that are worth a viewing if you get bored.
Arkansas (2020) with Double V is entertaining enough.
I enjoy a ranting Vince Vaughn playing a bad guy.
The comedic value/timing of the movie let me look past the plot holes and expediated ending.
I didn't want the movie to end.
I wanted it to go on for another hour.

Reptile (2023) was good enough for a movie made in 2023.
I guess I was in the mood for a police murder mystery type of movie.

The Pale Blue Eye (2022)
I fast-forwarded the Satanic Ritual near the end.
Didn't need to see that.
Edgar Allen Poe scenes get a little long winded.
I enjoyed some of the winter scenery.
Story was good enough to keep me interested for the duration.
Had an Ichabod Crane feel to it.
Better than that Contract Killer Movie I posted about.

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Yesterday, I saw the movie Blink Twice (2024) starring Channing Tatum and Naomi Ackie. Please disregard what follows if you have seen this movie. The movie is unpalatably woke. I figured since Christian Slater and Geena Davis are in the movie, that it might be some decent modern take on Eyes Wide Shut. They went with the Epstein Island motif. They get some shit right, but a bunch of young women aren't going to get the better of some evil Billionaire and his people. Since it's woke, they had to make sure to use ethnic women and they had to make sure that they are able to best the billionaire (Channing Tatum). Drugging people and using them as sex slaves on a remote private island does happen all the time (one of the reasons for the open southern border is so that the wealthy can kidnap large numbers of anonymous people from the endless supply of them for their evil, sadistic pleasures without even leaving the country), but at least make the film realistic. I rate this film as 1.5/10.


I finally saw Alien: Romulus a few days ago, but it is woke and in the horror genre anyway so I didn't reco it. I wasn't going to post about Blink Twice since it was a terrible movie, but since I was logged in and reading the movie thread, I threw it in there as a heads up.

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I watched a couple of movies last night that are worth a viewing if you get bored.
Arkansas (2020) with Double V is entertaining enough.
I enjoy a ranting Vince Vaughn playing a bad guy.
The comedic value/timing of the movie let me look past the plot holes and expediated ending.
I didn't want the movie to end.
I wanted it to go on for another hour.

Reptile (2023) was good enough for a movie made in 2023.
I guess I was in the mood for a police murder mystery type of movie.

The Pale Blue Eye (2022)
I fast-forwarded the Satanic Ritual near the end.
Didn't need to see that.
Edgar Allen Poe scenes get a little long winded.
I enjoyed some of the winter scenery.
Story was good enough to keep me interested for the duration.
Had an Ichabod Crane feel to it.
Better than that Contract Killer Movie I posted about.

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Thanks for the movie recos Monet. These movies sound interesting and I am going to watch them.

Please disregard this post if you have seen this movie. The movie is Destroyer (2018) and Nicole Kidman is the star. In this movie, Nicole plays a Los Angeles police detective who succumbed to greed during an undercover sting operation (at that time she was an FBI agent) of a gang of robbers which causes the death of another undercover agent who also infiltrated the gang of robbers during a bank robbery and to whom she was also romantically engaged with. The leader of the gang and most of the other gang members get away after the bank robbery and she has to deal with the guilt. The gang leader antagonizes her via a letter she receives 17 years later or so after the bank robbery with a dyed C-note (a lot of the money from the bank robbery got stained from a dye pack planted in the some of the stacks of money) from the robbery contained within the letter and it catalyzes her to go after him. It is somewhat hard-boiled and realistic, so I think it is worth a watch for those that have not seen it. I would rate this movie as pretty solid and give it a 6.5/10. I don't see any reason not to see it, if you haven't seen it already.

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Please disregard this post if you have seen this movie. The movie is Destroyer (2018) and Nicole Kidman is the star. In this movie, Nicole plays a Los Angeles police detective who succumbed to greed during an undercover sting operation (at that time she was an FBI agent) of a gang of robbers which causes the death of another undercover agent who also infiltrated the gang of robbers during a bank robbery and to whom she was also romantically engaged with. The leader of the gang and most of the other gang members get away after the bank robbery and she has to deal with the guilt. The gang leader antagonizes her via a letter she receives 17 years later or so after the bank robbery with a dyed C-note (a lot of the money from the bank robbery got stained from a dye pack planted in the some of the stacks of money) from the robbery contained within the letter and it catalyzes her to go after him. It is somewhat hard-boiled and realistic, so I think it is worth a watch for those that have not seen it. I would rate this movie as pretty solid and give it a 6.5/10. I don't see any reason not to see it, if you haven't seen it already.

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I watched it a few hours ago.
I fast forwarded some of the sub plot daughter scenes.
Endless yakking that was unnecessary.
Plus, I just hate when women cackle.
I had to fast forward the never-ending ending when she was looking at the sky.
Funny how they basically made the dude a simp.
He's only doing this job for her lol.
He refuses to go all the way and kill anyone but has no problem with robbing a bank.
You can't commit to that sort of thing without going all out to the dark side.
Anyways, I could easily review this movie, but the movie reviewed itself at the end.
When the screen turned black, and it read: Directed by Karyn Kusama.
Enough Said.

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Please disregard this post if you have seen this movie. The movie is Destroyer (2018) and Nicole Kidman is the star. In this movie, Nicole plays a Los Angeles police detective who succumbed to greed during an undercover sting operation (at that time she was an FBI agent) of a gang of robbers which causes the death of another undercover agent who also infiltrated the gang of robbers during a bank robbery and to whom she was also romantically engaged with. The leader of the gang and most of the other gang members get away after the bank robbery and she has to deal with the guilt. The gang leader antagonizes her via a letter she receives 17 years later or so after the bank robbery with a dyed C-note (a lot of the money from the bank robbery got stained from a dye pack planted in the some of the stacks of money) from the robbery contained within the letter and it catalyzes her to go after him. It is somewhat hard-boiled and realistic, so I think it is worth a watch for those that have not seen it. I would rate this movie as pretty solid and give it a 6.5/10. I don't see any reason not to see it, if you haven't seen it already.

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I watched it a few hours ago.
I fast forwarded some of the sub plot daughter scenes.
Endless yakking that was unnecessary.
Plus, I just hate when women cackle.
I had to fast forward the never-ending ending when she was looking at the sky.
Funny how they basically made the dude a simp.
He's only doing this job for her lol.
He refuses to go all the way and kill anyone but has no problem with robbing a bank.
You can't commit to that sort of thing without going all out to the dark side.
Anyways, I could easily review this movie, but the movie reviewed itself at the end.
When the screen turned black, and it read: Directed by Karyn Kusama.
Enough Said.

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Maybe the overarching message of the movie is "Be a simp, get yourself killed" ;-) .

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Please disregard this post if you have seen this movie. The movie is Destroyer (2018) and Nicole Kidman is the star. In this movie, Nicole plays a Los Angeles police detective who succumbed to greed during an undercover sting operation (at that time she was an FBI agent) of a gang of robbers which causes the death of another undercover agent who also infiltrated the gang of robbers during a bank robbery and to whom she was also romantically engaged with. The leader of the gang and most of the other gang members get away after the bank robbery and she has to deal with the guilt. The gang leader antagonizes her via a letter she receives 17 years later or so after the bank robbery with a dyed C-note (a lot of the money from the bank robbery got stained from a dye pack planted in the some of the stacks of money) from the robbery contained within the letter and it catalyzes her to go after him. It is somewhat hard-boiled and realistic, so I think it is worth a watch for those that have not seen it. I would rate this movie as pretty solid and give it a 6.5/10. I don't see any reason not to see it, if you haven't seen it already.

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I watched it a few hours ago.
I fast forwarded some of the sub plot daughter scenes.
Endless yakking that was unnecessary.
Plus, I just hate when women cackle.
I had to fast forward the never-ending ending when she was looking at the sky.
Funny how they basically made the dude a simp.
He's only doing this job for her lol.
He refuses to go all the way and kill anyone but has no problem with robbing a bank.
You can't commit to that sort of thing without going all out to the dark side.
Anyways, I could easily review this movie, but the movie reviewed itself at the end.
When the screen turned black, and it read: Directed by Karyn Kusama.
Enough Said.

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Maybe the overarching message of the movie is "Be a simp, get yourself killed" ;-) .

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That's one way to look at it.
I kept thinking this movie is saying to me: "I am Woman, Hear me Roar"!
And that was confirmed when I found out who directed the movie.
Entertaining Enough but it's tough for me to imagine Nicole Kidman for that lead role.
That bitch only got big in Hollywood because she married Tom Cruise.
I feel like they stole a lot from the 1991 movie RUSH.

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That bitch only got big in Hollywood because she married Tom Cruise.
I feel like they stole a lot from the 1991 movie RUSH.

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Yes, great points. I would have cast Gina Carano (Haywire 2011) in that role - much more believable, IMHO and much less expensive to have in the cast compared to Nicole. Unfortunately, four years later or so, Disney cancelled Gina (vaporizing her career) since she isn't woke (but in 2018, when Destroyer was made, she hadn't been cancelled yet) so I hope things work out for her somehow.