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11-08-2018, 07:30 AM
mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by blackhole

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

So to become a member, one of the current members has to sponsor you and the other members vote. So one of the players recently sponsored me and I was voted down. I was voted down because there was extensive lobbying by both the forum owners that banned me Norm and Shack.

The main reason, I even wanted on this forum was to eventually sponsor my brother, who is still up and coming, still learning the game. I thought he could really benefit from interactions with some of these successful players. Some of these are the players I learned so much from, so I wanted my brother to have that opportunity, but grudged and egos denied us that.

Will you ever realize how you continue to make yourself sound like you're a bullshit artist? Take post #243 and all the other short novel's you posted trying to explain the different types of maneuvers you employ which would justify your ability to withdraw over a million dollars and never be detected for 15 years and counting. On top of all of these different maneuvers that must be applied based on present conditions, you have to count cards accurately and sometimes two tables at once. You missed your calling which should have been an undercover cop investigating crime in gay bars.

What is the chances of you getting turned down in that secret forum (if one even exists) that all the members know for fact you're a bullshit artist?

"KEWLJ" the proven ultimate BJ expert after 15+ years of success, is worried about sponsoring his brother on any of these bullshit forums so he could interact with all these assholes and learn something? Are you fucking kidding? What beginner could possibly have any bigger dream than your novice BJ player brother who's getting to live, play, and learn from the king himself, the great "KEWLJ"?

How much different bullshit do you want to print without realizing how foolish you appear to normal people? Did you ever realize the fan club that cheers you on are just other compulsive gamblers who don't know you personally, and couldn't pick you out of a line-up?

The BULLSHIT never ends with you.

Some of the best blackjack players in the the world have observed KJ in action and said he is extremely good at what he does.
11-08-2018, 07:32 AM
Bill Yung

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Originally Posted by tableplay

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Originally Posted by Bill Yung

Oh, KJ, before you take your ball and go home, or resort to some other sack of crap, tell us all how poker players lose more than blackjack players. Particularly, how is a poker player's EV different from a blackjack player's? How could the game of blackjack exist if all blackjack players won, assuming that any do? My very first question to you, still not even an attempted answer. You are dead here.

Holy McFuck Batman, KJ just got done pointing out for the millionth time that he knows nothing or cares nothing about live poker, and yet Bill is asking him to compare poker players to blackjack players (along with their EVs).

From the horse's mouth.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

So let's move on to your chart. I don't play poker, but I see poker and blackjack (what I do) as 2 very different things. In poker, somebody at the table has to lose! Your chart reflects such losing players. In blackjack AP, no one has to lose and in the long run, if everyone plays a strong game, there won't be losers like in your chart.

Still waiting on any of "the best players in the world" for an explanation. It drove KJ the rest of the way crazy. All he could do was block me for "trolling".
11-08-2018, 07:36 AM
Moses

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Originally Posted by blackhole

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

So to become a member, one of the current members has to sponsor you and the other members vote. So one of the players recently sponsored me and I was voted down. I was voted down because there was extensive lobbying by both the forum owners that banned me Norm and Shack.

The main reason, I even wanted on this forum was to eventually sponsor my brother, who is still up and coming, still learning the game. I thought he could really benefit from interactions with some of these successful players. Some of these are the players I learned so much from, so I wanted my brother to have that opportunity, but grudged and egos denied us that.

Will you ever realize how you continue to make yourself sound like you're a bullshit artist? Take post #243 and all the other short novel's you posted trying to explain the different types of maneuvers you employ which would justify your ability to withdraw over a million dollars and never be detected for 15 years and counting. On top of all of these different maneuvers that must be applied based on present conditions, you have to count cards accurately and sometimes two tables at once. You missed your calling which should have been an undercover cop investigating crime in gay bars.

What is the chances of you getting turned down in that secret forum (if one even exists) that all the members know for fact you're a bullshit artist?

"KEWLJ" the proven ultimate BJ expert after 15+ years of success, is worried about sponsoring his brother on any of these bullshit forums so he could interact with all these assholes and learn something? Are you fucking kidding? What beginner could possibly have any bigger dream than your novice BJ player brother who's getting to live, play, and learn from the king himself, the great "KEWLJ"?

How much different bullshit do you want to print without realizing how foolish you appear to normal people? Did you ever realize the fan club that cheers you on are just other compulsive gamblers who don't know you personally, and couldn't pick you out of a line-up?

The BULLSHIT never ends with you.

Blackhole calls 'em like he sees 'em. You know it's funny. When a person first goes on to a blackjack site one thinks they are going to learn something new. I suppose that is what keeps them coming back. But in reality, we sift through hundreds of profound proclamations to get one little morsel to add to our game. I think the funniest quote I ever read was "Flash has helped me improve my game by 98%." What the hell was it at 2%?
11-08-2018, 07:37 AM
Bill Yung

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Originally Posted by blackhole

How much different bullshit do you want to print without realizing how foolish you appear to normal people? Did you ever realize the fan club that cheers you on are just other compulsive gamblers who don't know you personally, and couldn't pick you out of a line-up?

The BULLSHIT never ends with you.

Yep. The hardcore AP's, well, there is only one type, have this underlying "Pinky and the Brain" thing going on. You know, the world supremacy and domination thing. "Embrace the deception, and make the most of it." Here, it's the Ditz, KJ, and antsy Crimm. Ha, Crimm couldn't sit still, yesterday and last night. Like he lost the love of his life, or something.

Oh, I think that I will re-post that short list of things contradictions that KJ had to see as trolling to avoid.

Come to think of it, it was exactly the same with V and S. LarryS was Pinky, and V, the Brain. All V could say, after S left the forums was, "it was interesting". After all those years of meaningless attempts at intellectualism. He even asked S to get back to him at the Box forum, but S left V standing. Everyday, V goes back in search of S.
11-08-2018, 07:44 AM
Bill Yung

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Originally Posted by Bill Yung

How is it that the long-term win-loss rate or graph for poker players is any different from any other game, given each EV? How is it that he simulates his plays when there is no (fantasy) simulator that follows his many different types of (fantasy) plays? How is it possible to "blow through" shoes of heads-up play, and, at the same time, card count one or two more tables? Making one whopper bet when the count is high, and, then, leaving, doesn't attract immediate and fatal attention? The casino can't know what he is doing? That he has any life at the casino seven days a week trying to find some way to improve on his bullshit?

I mean, ask KJ about sticking out at empty tables. He says he plays off the strip (where there are other players.) Ask him about how he plays 100,000 hands a year. He's back to heads-up.

I don't have to know what Moses is doing. Only that he and Mickey gave, in one form or another, full endorsement to KJ.

Say, what happened to KJ's big mouth to answering all of my useless "gotcha" questions?

They may all block me, but you can't block the truth.

KJ went the rest of the way to crazy. Like Hitler resorting to talk of a "secret weapon" to strengthen his country's resolve, near the end of that war. But KJ's war is in his head. A sad, endless sort of war through the psych wards of life.
11-08-2018, 07:45 AM
Bill Yung

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Originally Posted by Moses

Blackhole calls 'em like he sees 'em. You know it's funny.
11-08-2018, 07:48 AM
Bill Yung

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Some of the best blackjack players in the the world have observed KJ in action and said he is extremely good at what he does.

Mickey, everyone now associates you guys with "empty shit-hole casinos". You have only yourself to blame.
11-08-2018, 07:48 AM
redietz

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Originally Posted by Bill Yung

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Originally Posted by blackhole

How much different bullshit do you want to print without realizing how foolish you appear to normal people? Did you ever realize the fan club that cheers you on are just other compulsive gamblers who don't know you personally, and couldn't pick you out of a line-up?

The BULLSHIT never ends with you.

Yep. The hardcore AP's, well, there is only one type, have this underlying "Pinky and the Brain" thing going on. You know, the world supremacy and domination thing. "Embrace the deception, and make the most of it." Here, it's the Ditz, KJ, and antsy Crimm. Ha, Crimm couldn't sit still, yesterday and last night. Like he lost the love of his life, or something.

Oh, I think that I will re-post that short list of things contradictions that KJ had to see as trolling to avoid.

Come to think of it, it was exactly the same with V and S. LarryS was Pinky, and V, the Brain. All V could say, after S left the forums was, "it was interesting". After all those years of meaningless attempts at intellectualism. He even asked S to get back to him at the Box forum, but S left V standing. Everyday, V goes back in search of S.

Bill, you're invited for the get together in Las Vegas, also. You can expose me for the fraud I am. If Alan doesn't show, we'll hire a videographer for some interview sessions. Don't be shy. The only requirement is that you have to write a summary for this site regarding the event.

I have never considered myself an "AP," but the attitude of the anonymous anti-APs is a joke. I suspect you folks are going to have a problem debunking a non-anonymous "AP." Let's find out.
11-08-2018, 07:51 AM
Moses

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Some of the best blackjack players in the the world have observed KJ in action and said he is extremely good at what he does.

Who would've believed Spud Webb could dunk a basketball? What difference does that make to Monte Towe?
11-08-2018, 07:52 AM
Bill Yung

Wise up, there, Mr Ditz! I no go to empty shit-hole casinos.

Ha, Singer showed his stuff, but all you anonymously so-called well-known "package" critters can do is talk about secret meet-ups. Holy fuck.

Shack would be proud of you.
11-08-2018, 07:56 AM
redietz

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Originally Posted by Moses

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Some of the best blackjack players in the the world have observed KJ in action and said he is extremely good at what he does.

Would've believed Spud Webb could dunk a basketball? What difference does that make to Monte Towe?

Moses, you and I are going to have to get together sometime. I like your basketball stuff. I used to play a little bit. People ask me about the best player I ever played against. I give a trick answer. In terms of pure skill, it was Carol Blazejowski. Do you remember who that was? I wound up guarding her half a dozen times.

Oh, and Moses, I'm throwing a little debunking-myself party in Las Vegas. You're invited. I'll get there December 15 or thereabouts. It's a kickoff to get some interviews on tape for my site and podcast debuts next year.
11-08-2018, 07:58 AM
redietz

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Originally Posted by Bill Yung

Wise up, there, Mr Ditz! I no go to empty shit-hole casinos.

Ha, Singer showed his stuff, but all you anonymously so-called well-known "package" critters can do is talk about secret meet-ups. Holy fuck.

Shack would be proud of you.

Not secret. Open to the public. We can shoot your interview in Paris -- last I checked, not a "shit-hole." I aim to please. You're not a scaredy-cat, are you?
11-08-2018, 07:59 AM
Bill Yung

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by Moses

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Some of the best blackjack players in the the world have observed KJ in action and said he is extremely good at what he does.

Would've believed Spud Webb could dunk a basketball? What difference does that make to Monte Towe?

Moses, you and I are going to have to get together sometime.

Nothing would make me happier. Who's the head clown, and who's the clown-in-training? Can the normal people continue on with their lives? Ha, gamblers are a hoot.
11-08-2018, 08:03 AM
Bill Yung

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by Bill Yung

Wise up, there, Mr Ditz! I no go to empty shit-hole casinos.

Ha, Singer showed his stuff, but all you anonymously so-called well-known "package" critters can do is talk about secret meet-ups. Holy fuck.

Shack would be proud of you.

Not secret. Open to the public. We can shoot your interview in Paris -- last I checked, not a "shit-hole." I aim to please. You're not a scaredy-cat, are you?

Singer has youze all beat. No need for more "packages" from the Ditz. Ha, drives V crazy because, in a way, he's just another strange "package" that we have to take at face value.
11-08-2018, 08:10 AM
Moses

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Originally Posted by Bill Yung

Nothing would make me happier. Who's the head clown, and who's the clown-in-training? Can the normal people continue on with their lives? Ha, gamblers are a hoot.

Just to be sure. You taking a shot a me again? I thought you were smarter than that.
11-08-2018, 08:29 AM
Moses

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Originally Posted by redietz

Moses, you and I are going to have to get together sometime. I like your basketball stuff. I used to play a little bit. People ask me about the best player I ever played against. I give a trick answer. In terms of pure skill, it was Carol Blazejowski. Do you remember who that was? I wound up guarding her half a dozen times..

I hadn't heard of her. But just read her Bio. Very Impressive. My daughters first job was with the Phoenix Suns. But she really excelled at her position for the WNBA team. Funny story. She would go around and talk to the fans during the game. She walks up to this elderly man in a wheelchair and introduces herself. She was impressed to learn he'd competed in the Olympics and even carried the torch. She says "my Dad really follows sports. What was your name again"? He replies "Muhammad Ali." His daughter played on the team.

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Originally Posted by redietz

Oh, and Moses, I'm throwing a little debunking-myself party in Las Vegas. You're invited. I'll get there December 15 or thereabouts. It's a kickoff to get some interviews on tape for my site and podcast debuts next year.

Thanks for the invite. I think I read you will be in Tahoe? I might come over for lunch.
11-08-2018, 09:23 AM
redietz

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Originally Posted by Moses

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Originally Posted by redietz

Moses, you and I are going to have to get together sometime. I like your basketball stuff. I used to play a little bit. People ask me about the best player I ever played against. I give a trick answer. In terms of pure skill, it was Carol Blazejowski. Do you remember who that was? I wound up guarding her half a dozen times..

I hadn't heard of her. But just read her Bio. Very Impressive. My daughters first job was with the Phoenix Suns. But she really excelled at her position for the WNBA team. Funny story. She would go around and talk to the fans during the game. She walks up to this elderly man in a wheelchair and introduces herself. She was impressed to learn he'd competed in the Olympics and even carried the torch. She says "my Dad really follows sports. What was your name again"? He replies "Muhammad Ali." His daughter played on the team.

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Originally Posted by redietz

Oh, and Moses, I'm throwing a little debunking-myself party in Las Vegas. You're invited. I'll get there December 15 or thereabouts. It's a kickoff to get some interviews on tape for my site and podcast debuts next year.

Thanks for the invite. I think I read you will be in Tahoe? I might come over for lunch.

You know, Muhammad used to bank in my hometown (Frackville, PA). He trained in Deer Lake (about 20 miles away) -- we went there for open sessions. A bunch of cabins on the side of a mountain. He's the only autograph I ever got from anyone except Chuck Yeager.

I won't be in Tahoe unless/until Argentino verifies we'll do interviews on film. He interviews me; I interview him. It'll be great fun.

But I will be in LV starting December 16 (college football done). Various folks will be dropping in over a range of days. If you're bored, come on down! I'd prefer to be back in Tennessee for Christmas, but if Argentino is up for interviews anytime in LV, I'll extend. In fact, if he commits to interviews in LV with Alan (and me), I will commit to being there no matter when. Short-term, I'll probably be back in LV in January.

We'll have to trade women's hoop stories. I always pseudo-bitched because I was on one rec league team where two women started ahead of me. One was Annie Troyan, the former Penn State point guard record-holder (until Suzie McConnell broke all of her records). I learned a lot from Annie -- like no matter how slow you are (I was slow), nobody can take the ball from you unless you make a mistake.
11-08-2018, 09:36 AM
Moses

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Originally Posted by redietz

I won't be in Tahoe unless/until Argentino verifies we'll do interviews on film. He interviews me; I interview him. It'll be great fun..

I dunno about Singer. He might have a strange cast of characters following behind him. Might want to keep your head on a swivel. I'm kidding.:cool:

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Originally Posted by redietz

I learned a lot from Annie -- like no matter how slow you are (I was slow), nobody can take the ball from you unless you make a mistake.

We had a backup center that blew out a knee his junior year. Man, he had heart. But Coach would say, "man, your speed deceptive, you look slow, and by gosh, you really are slow.":eek:
11-08-2018, 09:43 AM
redietz

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Originally Posted by Moses

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Originally Posted by redietz

I won't be in Tahoe unless/until Argentino verifies we'll do interviews on film. He interviews me; I interview him. It'll be great fun..

I dunno about Singer. He might have a strange cast of characters following behind him. Might want to keep your head on a swivel. I'm kidding.:cool:

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Originally Posted by redietz

I learned a lot from Annie -- like no matter how slow you are (I was slow), nobody can take the ball from you unless you make a mistake.

We had a backup center that blew out a knee his junior year. Man, he had heart. But Coach would say, "man, your speed deceptive, you look slow, and by gosh, you really are slow.":eek:

I used to joke that we had "the team speed of a glacier."
11-08-2018, 09:44 AM
The Boz

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by Moses

I hadn't heard of her. But just read her Bio. Very Impressive. My daughters first job was with the Phoenix Suns. But she really excelled at her position for the WNBA team. Funny story. She would go around and talk to the fans during the game. She walks up to this elderly man in a wheelchair and introduces herself. She was impressed to learn he'd competed in the Olympics and even carried the torch. She says "my Dad really follows sports. What was your name again"? He replies "Muhammad Ali." His daughter played on the team.

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Originally Posted by redietz

Oh, and Moses, I'm throwing a little debunking-myself party in Las Vegas. You're invited. I'll get there December 15 or thereabouts. It's a kickoff to get some interviews on tape for my site and podcast debuts next year.

Thanks for the invite. I think I read you will be in Tahoe? I might come over for lunch.

You know, Muhammad used to bank in my hometown (Frackville, PA). He trained in Deer Lake (about 20 miles away) -- we went there for open sessions. A bunch of cabins on the side of a mountain. He's the only autograph I ever got from anyone except Chuck Yeager.

I won't be in Tahoe unless/until Argentino verifies we'll do interviews on film. He interviews me; I interview him. It'll be great fun.

But I will be in LV starting December 16 (college football done). Various folks will be dropping in over a range of days. If you're bored, come on down! I'd prefer to be back in Tennessee for Christmas, but if Argentino is up for interviews anytime in LV, I'll extend. In fact, if he commits to interviews in LV with Alan (and me), I will commit to being there no matter when. Short-term, I'll probably be back in LV in January.

We'll have to trade women's hoop stories. I always pseudo-bitched because I was on one rec league team where two women started ahead of me. One was Annie Troyan, the former Penn State point guard record-holder (until Suzie McConnell broke all of her records). I learned a lot from Annie -- like no matter how slow you are (I was slow), nobody can take the ball from you unless you make a mistake.

Never knew you were from Frackville. My wife grew up in Tower City.

Sure you probably remember it, the Black Diamond Bar in Frackville recently closed. They always had good wings. A victim of the owner getting sick of dealing with the problems with finding and keeping employees.

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