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Might as well just rename the thread to suit its end results...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
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Originally Posted by MDawg
What an obsessed, sick in the head, loser this guy(?) is….successful law practice my ass lolololQuote:
Originally Posted by MDawgMight as well just rename the thread to suit its end results...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
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This is actually bad news. I knew KJ was a pro and his hustle of cocks gave him so much more credence.
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Originally Posted by Seedvalue
You might want to look in the mirror on this one, I think you hold the record for time trying to convince everyone you are legit.<<<< FAILQuote:
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IIRC, weren't you neck and neck or losing in the poll to KJ, of who is more believable?
Nothing seems good enough for you.Quote:
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Really Dan Druff?? THAT is a pretty half-assed confirmation from you.
NO One is telling Kim Lee what to say. Maybe you are not familiar with him, but he speaks his mind. No one tells him what to say or think.
Here I clearly stated that Kim is far away from you geographically, AND that it's not a proxy or VPN. This preemptively shuts down people who will say things like, "I bet it's just kewlJ on a VPN!"
However, given the lengths you've gone in the past to attempt to validate lies you've told on forums, I'm not going to state with certainty that it's a separate person, given the easy loophole to simply get a friend/relative in another state to post things you want to say.
Again, I believe it's not you, but I'm not going to definitively say it can't be. I have been very fair regarding this analysis.
All of YOUSE at VCT go to great lengths to discuss The Great MDawg. I barely even respond to posts about me or questioning me. Even over at WOV do I bother to respond to you or anyone else most of the time when you question me?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfYou might want to look in the mirror on this one, I think you hold the record for time trying to convince everyone you are legit.<<<< FAILQuote:
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Originally Posted by Seedvalue
IIRC, weren't you neck and neck or losing in the poll to KJ, of who is more believable?
Are you trying to say that even 1% of my posts on this forum are about me?
Now you take someone like UNKewlJ, he can't even make a post without regurgitating his MDawg Rob.Singer REDietz etc. related spiels which translate to nothing more thanQuote:
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Originally Posted by TheGrimReaper
You linking to Marcusclark66 is very telling. I knew he was a fraud and a liar, and sure enough, he got caught making up a doozy. What are the odds that the table game he was lying about a WOVer had intimate knowledge of, knowing what he said was impossible? That was just pure bad luck on his part.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawgAll of YOUSE at VCT go to great lengths to discuss The Great MDawg. I barely even respond to posts about me or questioning me. Even over at WOV do I bother to respond to you or anyone else most of the time when you question me?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Are you trying to say that even 1% of my posts on this forum are about me?
Now you take someone like UNKewlJ, he can't even make a post without regurgitating his MDawg Rob.Singer REDietz etc. related spiels which translate to nothing more thanQuote:
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Originally Posted by TheGrimReaper
Is ADD somehow something that in the end helps you function in casinos? The way you misread, half read, misinterpret or zero in on some tangent in any post longer than a couple of sentences is remarkable.
As I already noted, gambling forums are made of as we will. And, so, doing what's perceived as impossible isn't a matter of untruthfulness. It's only when something is possible, that it may be lied about. As with KJ falsely claiming a broken bone, then lawsuit, and, so on.Quote:
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Originally Posted by TheGrimReaper
No one called Alan, a liar, but, that he was either delusional, or, trolling, on the end.
In other words, if I say that the sky is green, then either way, it's not about me lying about it. Perhaps, I'm wearing green contact lenses.
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Originally Posted by TheGrimReaper
Me, for one.
But since he was a fairly respected member I and others also posited other possible scenarios, e.g. medical condition causing him to be delusional.
But yeah, the most likely explanation is that he lied.
He absolutely lied and feigned ignorance at times for one main reason. He needed the attention and said outrageous things to get it. Fighting about free play was one of his favorites.Quote:
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Originally Posted by TheGrimReaper
Me, for one.
But since he was a fairly respected member I and others also posited other possible scenarios, e.g. medical condition causing him to be delusional.
But yeah, the most likely explanation is that he lied.
In many ways Alan near the end was very much like Tasha, without shitting on the floor I assume. He was near broke from gambling, lost his business and was barely existing, owed family money he couldn’t pay back, etc. But he stayed in the game some, gambling at small stakes trying to turn things around and when he couldn’t, he came here and made up bullshit to needle people.
Regardless how MDawg plays the games, if you believe, without a doubt, based on simple analyses, that there's no way for him to win, then deception isn't involved, because next to no one is fooled.
You have grown harsh, Boz. Must have been that move to Florida. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
Alan was harmless. Some of what you say is true, especially about wanting attention. But can't you say that about any of us that post regularly on an internet forum?
I don't believe Alan was lying about seeing 18 y.o. in a row. he saw something he thought was pretty unusual. Selective memory becomes part of that process. and then he may have exaggerated what he thought he saw. I don't have a problem with any of that. The problem for me occurred when Shackleford and others did the math and told him in no uncertain terms, that what he was claiming was all but impossible, he just couldn't bring himself to walk it back...to say, well maybe it wasn't 18 in a row. That type of thing.
Gamblers are a strange bunch, especially guys that don't play with an advantage and are not long-term winning players. MrV is very grounded, but most of them guys are not. You ask them how they did gambling in their lifetime and they will always give the same answer my grandfather, a horse players gave : "about even". When there is no way in hell they are or were about even.
I never thought of it before but we have another long-term losing player, who claims to win, and when caught what did he say? "about even". :D
I wish I had, had the chance to meet Alan and see what he was like in person. I would have liked to have asked him the "how do you think you have done gambling in your lifetime question and see if his answer was "about even".
But the truth is, I didn't trust Alan enough to risk meeting him. Very early on, in the tracking two tables discussion, he wanted to film me tracking two tables. Maybe that was just the journalist in him, but trying to maintain my anonymity as I do, I get nervous when someone on a internet forum starts talking about taking pictures or filming me. Or asking if anyone has pictures or information on me. Maybe THAT is just me.
I repeatedly called Alan out on his BS story where he claimed his son hit 5 single line Royals in one day. He was stubborn on that claim for years. He said he had proof, etc, etc, and was willing to bet on it. I was willing to, but I was very concerned about fake documentation. W2G's wasn't going to be enough for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGrimReaperAs I already noted, gambling forums are made of as we will. And, so, doing what's perceived as impossible isn't a matter of untruthfulness. It's only when something is possible, that it may be lied about. As with KJ falsely claiming a broken bone, then lawsuit, and, so on.Quote:
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Originally Posted by TheGrimReaper
No one called Alan, a liar, but, that he was either delusional, or, trolling, on the end.
In other words, if I say that the sky is green, then either way, it's not about me lying about it. Perhaps, I'm wearing green contact lenses.
His son told us the real story, and of course, it was not true, not even close IMO.
You have to look at how/why his stories came about. They were often some kind of "teaching moment/ cautionary Tale" to prove a point. I think he just inflated the numbers to make it seem unlikely, without thinking about the math and how nearly impossible those things were. But once he wrote it, he couldn't back down no matter what, since that would damage his journalistic integrity.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYou have grown harsh, Boz. Must have been that move to Florida. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
Alan was harmless. Some of what you say is true, especially about wanting attention. But can't you say that about any of us that post regularly on an internet forum?
I don't believe Alan was lying about seeing 18 y.o. in a row. he saw something he thought was pretty unusual. Selective memory becomes part of that process. and then he may have exaggerated what he thought he saw. I don't have a problem with any of that. The problem for me occurred when Shackleford and others did the math and told him in no uncertain terms, that what he was claiming was all but impossible, he just couldn't bring himself to walk it back...to say, well maybe it wasn't 18 in a row. That type of thing.
Gamblers are a strange bunch, especially guys that don't play with an advantage and are not long-term winning players. MrV is very grounded, but most of them guys are not. You ask them how they did gambling in their lifetime and they will always give the same answer my grandfather, a horse players gave : "about even". When there is no way in hell they are or were about even.
I never thought of it before but we have another long-term losing player, who claims to win, and when caught what did he say? "about even". :D
I wish I had, had the chance to meet Alan and see what he was like in person. I would have liked to have asked him the "how do you think you have done gambling in your lifetime question and see if his answer was "about even".
But the truth is, I didn't trust Alan enough to risk meeting him. Very early on, in the tracking two tables discussion, he wanted to film me tracking two tables. Maybe that was just the journalist in him, but trying to maintain my anonymity as I do, I get nervous when someone on a internet forum starts talking about taking pictures or filming me. Or asking if anyone has pictures or information on me. Maybe THAT is just me.
I remember that battle between you and Alan. So what is the real story? Was it told to you in confidence?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfI repeatedly called Alan out on his BS story where he claimed his son hit 5 single line Royals in one day. He was stubborn on that claim for years. He said he had proof, etc, etc, and was willing to bet on it. I was willing to, but I was very concerned about fake documentation. W2G's wasn't going to be enough for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGrimReaper
His son told us the real story, and of course, it was not true, not even close IMO.
I never knew Alan as the legit news/ journalist guy that was his primary career. THAT was before my time. But I really didn't think much of his second career... the whole Alan's Best Buys, infomercial type thing, where he was promoting products for a fee. Kind of "hawking" products.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolf
Alot like being a "tout" nothing illegal, but seems kind of shady. Why is it that these journalism guys get into that kind of shit? :confused:
But, a million celebrity types do that promoting products too, like the Tom Selleck guy and reverse mortgages, so, whatever. :rolleyes:
Bob, sometimes you write about math you don't understand. You were unaware the Tversky-Gilman "Hot Hand" paper was subsequently corrected. Sometimes you are deliberately vague. But your factual posts have always seemed true.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
You mentioned teasing totals on another board, which is a bad bet. Sometimes you refund customers after losing seasons, but you don't refund them after winning seasons. It appears you consider these free-roll tout revenues "sports betting winnings".
But the real problem is that you keep talking about your college football records dating to the 1970's. Was your bookie wearing bell-bottom jeans or polyester leisure suits? Did Francis Scott Key still perform the national anthem at games?
Since 2011, you have been posting about ancient history and an obscure Wise Guys contest with perhaps 10 entrants. What have you done lately?
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