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You often write about playing sessions yourself, but you can't seem to grasp the concept of others playing sessions.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
The phrase "quit when ahead" is common and easily understood, just as "quit for the day", or "quit in his corner" are common and easily understood phrases.
Earlier you posted a series of daily results. The days when you won money are the days that you quit when ahead.
Do you disagree?
One problem I used to run into while quitting while I was ahead was that I lived far from the casino so once I quit while I was ahead and had to come home it was hard to get in enough sessions to make it profitable.
I finally had the idea to get a notaries license and a log book. Then as soon as I was ahead I would log that session into my book, notarize it and log in a new session. This way I could quit while I was ahead all day and get a lot of sessions in. The problem is onetime my log book and stamp fell out of my pocket and the casino figured out what I was doing and the party was over. It’s sad because I was a big bettor and had I been smarter I was on track to quit while I was ahead into a Million bucks!
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Originally Posted by coach bellyYou often write about playing sessions yourself, but you can't seem to grasp the concept of others playing sessions.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
The phrase "quit when ahead" is common and easily understood, just as "quit for the day", or "quit in his corner" are common and easily understood phrases.
Earlier you posted a series of daily results. The days when you won money are the days that you quit when ahead.
Do you disagree?
Yes I disagree. Will expand when I get home.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyYou often write about playing sessions yourself, but you can't seem to grasp the concept of others playing sessions.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
The phrase "quit when ahead" is common and easily understood, just as "quit for the day", or "quit in his corner" are common and easily understood phrases.
Earlier you posted a series of daily results. The days when you won money are the days that you quit when ahead.
Do you disagree?
Actually, quit while ahead doesn't mean you can't start again the same day on another machine or session. Some sessions may end with a medium profit, others you may have to play reservedly just to win $10! Then there's the big one that SHOULD make you think of calling it a day. The scoffers want to make you think you go home after 5 minutes of play with a$5 profit! And it DOES make a difference if you play the next hand today or tomorrow! Boz, or Bozo would say I'm an idiot without any common sense, but anyone who can't fathom hands and programs continuing to cycle while they're absent well....Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
How long does it take for the session and cycle to reset? If its daylight savings time that weekend do you adjust how long until you can start a new session by an hour?Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshotActually, quit while ahead doesn't mean you can't start again the same day on another machine or session. Some sessions may end with a medium profit, others you may have to play reservedly just to win $10! Then there's the big one that SHOULD make you think of calling it a day. The scoffers want to make you think you go home after 5 minutes of play with a$5 profit! And it DOES make a difference if you play the next hand today or tomorrow! Boz, or Bozo would say I'm an idiot without any common sense, but anyone who can't fathom hands and programs continuing to cycle while they're absent well....Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
It doesn't make one fucking iota of a difference if the next hand is played now, tomorrow or next century. The odds are EXACTLY the fucking same.
Ben was looking to play slingshot, but he fooled you first....Mommy's basement boy.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
EXACLTY!Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
I don't know why I bother. I don't know why any of us bother. These guys are freaking retarded.
I mean Coach belly wants to play his "gootch ya" games by saying every winning day that I quit while ahead qualifies. Bullshit. I quit when I have accumulated my play for the day. I never quit because I have won or lost some sort of artificial, made up target or goal.
So today, I won my first bet. I only remember this because I had a $25 matchplay that I played on my very first hand played of the day. So after 1 hand I am up $50. Should I have quit while I was ahead as per Alan's new signature? It so happens I had a pretty decent day in the mid 4 figure range. Had I quit when I was ahead I would have missed out on all but that first $50.
But on the other hand, suppose I had ended the day down 3 or 4 thousand. Then would the smart thing to do have been to quit after that first hand?
This is an idiot discussion and an idiotic signature line by Alan. Again, it is based on gambler's fallacy. I would say it is one of the stupider discussions, but on this site, there are so many idiotic things just like this that I don't know where this one ranks.
The sessions helps protect the monies from the Maths.
The Maths is the enemy of the monies because the longer the monies are exposed to the Maths then eventually the Maths will win and take the monies.
When you quit while you are ahead the Maths doesn't have enough time to take the monies because the Lucks and the Hot Cycles can beat the Maths in the short term.
Why isn't this the same as pausing a long session? Because you "Lock in" the monies so now the Maths can never get them. Thats what "Locking in" means. You go home, you hide the monies, or you put them in your other pocket and they are forever safe from the Maths.
If you just paused a session you skipped the critical step of "Locking in" the win so now the Maths have time to beat the Lucks and the Hot Cycles and they will take the monies since the monies were not "Locked in" and were therefore not safe from the Maths
Oh mickey....of all those who find themselves squirming over this, it is you who's trying the hardest to convince yourself it just has to be a nightmare....only you are never going to "wake up and it'll all be over". It's beginning to appear as if all that cash I deposited into my bank is not the prettiest part of the win.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou're right. It's funny as hell. Robocchio keeps trying to convince everyone he hit a 200K jackpot....and no one will believe him. Hilarious!!!! hahahahahahaha!!!! No one believes you because you are a proven liar, bet welsher, sockpuppeteer, and psychobabbler. Poor little Robocchio.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
In the meantime, look at all it took to get this forum back into it's "all insults, all the time" format once again. Start off with one dose of another Singer vp jackpot, add in half a dozen parts of AP-envy, toss in a couple ounces of said AP frustration leading to attacking Alan, and finish it off with "Kew the Concocter" getting quickly but hilariously perturbed over him again not being the center of attention.
If I thought I was this powerful I'd have been playing a lot more hi-limit vp. Or....we could wait for axel's puny team of 25c FPDW squirts to hit a couple $1k royals and he'd finally have something to post a picture of.
I outdid myself.
Because, KJ, they ARE retarded.
I't's not about why you quit...you can quit for whatever reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
But the only way to win is to quit when ahead.
This applies to any period of time...what other way could it be?
Everybody will eventually quit playing, the only way to have won is to quit when ahead.
Consider your friend who passed...did he quit when ahead?
On the days when you won...did you quit when ahead?
Just curios, if this is the only way to win, why aren’t there teams of professionals hitting casinos and quitting while they are ahead?Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyI't's not about why you quit...you can quit for whatever reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
But the only way to win is to quit when ahead.
This applies to any period of time...what other way could it be?
Everybody will eventually quit playing, the only way to have won is to quit when ahead.
Consider your friend who passed...did he quit when ahead?
On the days when you won...did you quit when ahead?
If it can beat the casinos why aren’t casinos worried about people who quit while they are ahead?
Why aren’t there Millionaires everywhere that hit the casinos, bet big, and quit while they were ahead?
Why aren't there more winners?...it's because they didn't quit when ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
Why didn't they quit when ahead?...is that your question?
If there are winners...teams, pros, people, millionaires, etc who have won...there is no way they could have won without quitting when ahead.
How else could they have been considered to have won?
Once you win and you quit do have you to quit forever or can you go back and try to win again as long as you quit while you are ahead the next time?Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyWhy aren't there more winners?...it's because they didn't quit when ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
Why didn't they quit when ahead?...is that your question?
If there are winners...teams, pros, people, millionaires, etc who have won...there is no way they could have won without quitting when ahead.
How else could they have been considered to have won?
Sheesh! This is a loony bin! Going to play tomorrow and next week. Enough of the talk.
That depends on your goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
If your goal is to win $X, and have quit when ahead $X, then you have accomplished your goal.
Having accomplished that goal, if you set another goal (X+N) then you will need to play until you win N to accomplish that goal.
Is there another way to win X (or X+N), besides quitting after winning X (or X+N) ?
Thank you for the answer.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyThat depends on your goal.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
If your goal is to win $X, and have quit when ahead $X, then you have accomplished your goal.
Having accomplished that goal, if you set another goal (X+N) then you will need to play until you win N to accomplish that goal.
Is there another way to win X (or X+N), besides quitting after winning X (or X+N) ?
Just as any gambling style has downswings how does the quit while you are ahead strategy deal with the sessions where you lose your initial wager and then continue to run bad so you are never ahead in a particular session?
If you are never ahead in a particular session then you cannot quit when ahead for that session.Quote:
Originally Posted by DGenBen
Some players expect to overcome session losses with previous or subsequent session wins, such that they will win overall...but they will still need to quit when ahead at some point to have won overall.
Isn't this what you meant when you wrote this?...
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Originally Posted by DGenBen