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Yes it makes sense to me. I am not going to count a $40 comp to the coffeeshop to get a burger and fries as $40 income. It IS worth something. Especially if you get that "perk" several hundred days a year. But that is all I counted it as....a perk of being an AP.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
You haven't named any APs that you claim to have met.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I hesitated whether to answer this. If you pay $50 for a burger it isn't $50 income but it also clearly isn't 0. If that burger replaced a $5 meal then I'd count it as $5 in income.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYes it makes sense to me. I am not going to count a $40 comp to the coffeeshop to get a burger and fries as $40 income. It IS worth something. Especially if you get that "perk" several hundred days a year. But that is all I counted it as....a perk of being an AP.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
Same with housing. Comped rooms are basically to be considered income at the rate of which they replace your living expenses. So for Tony BigCharles.. if it would cost him 1k at the airbnb near where he wanted to be then the rooms would be worth that much.
Anyway, I don't think this is a conversation worth having but whatevers...
How about $40 won that you use to get a burger and fries...does that count as income?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Ok, I am done with you for today. I can only take so much CB stupid game-playing each day.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyHow about $40 won that you use to get a burger and fries...does that count as income?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
It must have been quite a battle between the devil & angel on your shoulders...3 whole minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
My god, you are a gaping asshole.
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Originally Posted by coach belly
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I haven't spent much time around sports bettors in particular but I have spent my time around tons of gamblers in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmIf you were kelly betting your contest picks on the side, with the win record you claim, 57%, then over the decades you should have easily built an 8 figure net worth. And if you did you wouldn't be sweating $500 tax bills, paying $9 a month interest to avoid paying a $900 tax bill, trying to freeload people for coffee and doughnuts, and worrying about your credit score.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Right. That's why everything I do is public and everything you do isn't public. Because I like to demonstrate how I can't do things in print every week for 40 years. Makes perfect sense.
Meanwhile, the KewlJ(s) seem to have missed the point of the model. Now these "APs" count cashback, free play, and some even count comps like cruises as "income." Thus, when they are playing a negative game, they can turn it positive.
But God forbid a winning public handicapper charge after-you-win fees, which (A) means he's padded, let's say, a 55% win rate with client fees, making it more like a 60% win rate in terms of income while (B) helping clients actually win money.
Yeah, that's a real rip-off. Let me put my name on that rip-off. You can call it the "Bob Dietz Rip-Off." Has a nice ring to it, eh?
P.S. For those not getting the inside joke, the client fees can pad a marginally losing handicapper into profitability in exactly the same way cashback, free play, and comps flip losing "AP" propositions into the realm of profitability.
P.S.S. For those not getting the second inside joke and who are ready to hang marginally losing handicappers for losing money for their clients, note that this is what monitors do -- they help establish who actually wins for their clients. Unlike, say, scumbag "APs" who don't help those poor bastards padding the tills of "advantage slots," which are then exploited by the brilliant, ethical "APs" in the name of...what? Being exploitative scumbags?
LOL. The KewlJ(s) never figured out that they were pots calling kettles black? What fucking idiots. If you spend two minutes thinking about this stuff, all of this is obvious. Do these kewlJ dudes even live in Las Vegas? How can you not realize all of this? Do they actually gamble?
Walters built a real estate empire with the money. How about you? You should be wiping your ass with million dollar bills. What happened?
I can smell degenerates spewing forth bullshit.
Thats what I smell here.
The need to get free coffee and donuts but framing it in such a weird way is just epic.
However worrying about your credit score may be the most telling of all. Need someone to put you in action ....
I lub me some Redietz.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzAxelwolf, if you lived in LV for 20 years and don't know how this stuff worked, I can't help you. You must be an idiot, to put it bluntly. You criticize me and have literally no fucking idea about anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfCan you explain how this all worked, from start to finish?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
You made picks and they were published where?
then those places did what exactly?
What/whose line was used?
During the interview can you have a few clients go on record?
LOL. What an arrogant, brain dead prick. You think because you wander around playing slot machines, you're God's gift to gambling? WTF? I'm not sure which blows my mind more -- that you don't know this stuff or that you have the gall to comment about it when you know nothing.
Here's a hint -- since I don't comment on blackjack or slots or poker or even hockey betting or NBA betting (well, once, 30 years ago) -- before shooting off your mouth, know something about the subject. Don't assume you're God's gift. That's my tip to you.
What a fucking idiot. Seriously.
Here's what's mind-blowing to me. The sports gambling subculture in which I have lived for 40 years is gigantic compared to the "AP" subculture. Both in number and quality of experts, the importation of expertise from fields to apply to sports gambling, and in terms of people who have tried to conquer it. Yet the "APs" are oblivious. Now that sports gambling is legal, the "APs" just presume they can import some fifth grade math and and their mighty wits and conquer it all. It's truly comical.
I have no problems with him or his posting in general.
I agree with him that Axel Wolf is a scumbag.
Everyone in Vegas is a scumbag.
99.9% of the humans in the world are scumbags.
Redietz charges money for his picks.
He can't give us any freebies unless they are hidden inside of some Fucking Riddle.
That's Fine.
Whatever, but you can't preach how moral you are when you charge people for Sports Picks.
That's some Evil Predatory Bullshit and he knows it.
Redietz is by far the smartest Sports Player on VCT.
No question about that.
But he also preaches that Hedging and Teasers are winning plays.
While preaching against Parlay Betting.
Makes no sense really.
If you're going to play a two teamer and you can get an early game with a late game, you are actually better to double up with straight bettting.
3 or 4 Teamers could work if you can spread them out over multiple days and keep pushing all in with your straight bets.
Example: You bet 100 to win 150 and win.
Now you bet the 150 on the next game.
etc. etc.
It requires a lot more leg work, but it pays better than putting the two teams on a parlay.
Whatever.
Do what the Fuck you all want.
What is it like being so miserable? I feel there is a story to be told inside you and that is how to be the most miserable person ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyIt must have been quite a battle between the devil & angel on your shoulders...3 whole minutes.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
My god, you are a gaping asshole.
You're so gung-ho to be miserable you find some post where I don't even begin to take a shot at anyone and decide in your head that it is an example of me being an asshole. I'm not saying I'm not an asshole, I'm saying you have shitforbrains to quote that post as an example. However, I'm just repeating the obvious.
I mean Coach ain't wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJOk, I am done with you for today. I can only take so much CB stupid game-playing each day.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyHow about $40 won that you use to get a burger and fries...does that count as income?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Comp is worth something in monetary value.
I get over 100 comp a day at one Casino.
You got to eat.
Plus, you don't have to cook or do any dishes.
I get to go orders all the time.
Easy Peasy.
Especially when you're playing a game that has over 100% return + points and mail.
Comp = Cash
Maybe not dollar for dollar but certainly 2 or 3 to 1 depending.
I said it is worth something. Even before he brought it up. 2 to1, 3 to 1. I am not doing that. And then I would have to subtract for all the antacids and peptobismol needed when eating all that casino crap. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by monetI mean Coach ain't wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJOk, I am done with you for today. I can only take so much CB stupid game-playing each day.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
Comp is worth something in monetary value.
I get over 100 comp a day at one Casino.
You got to eat.
Plus, you don't have to cook or do any dishes.
I get to go orders all the time.
Easy Peasy.
Especially when you're playing a game that has over 100% return + points and mail.
Comp = Cash
Maybe not dollar for dollar but certainly 2 or 3 to 1 depending.
Now right there is the voice of reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Of course I'm not wrong...I'm never wrong.
If the restaurant tab is covered by cash, gained from gambling, in the left pocket...it's income.
If the tab is covered by a comp, gained from gambling, in the right pocket...it's not.
That's tewlj's version of pocket pool...he's jerking himself off.
tewlj is a blabbermouth idiot.
It counts as income to the extent that it puts money in your pocket. So whatever it replaces as an expense can be considered income from an APs perspective.
ALthough that isn't true when it pays for things as expenses.
Try eating a salad once in awhile, dumbass.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Over time eating that rich food isn’t good. But there are some Vegan and Farm to Table restaurants popping up at the Majors.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetI mean Coach ain't wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJOk, I am done with you for today. I can only take so much CB stupid game-playing each day.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
Comp is worth something in monetary value.
I get over 100 comp a day at one Casino.
You got to eat.
Plus, you don't have to cook or do any dishes.
I get to go orders all the time.
Easy Peasy.
Especially when you're playing a game that has over 100% return + points and mail.
Comp = Cash
Maybe not dollar for dollar but certainly 2 or 3 to 1 depending.
And CoachBelly is right - adding a salad to each meal as long as the dressing isn’t too rich is mandatory. UNKewlJ doesn’t rate for more than a greasy hot dog with his red chipper play so no wonder he’s going on about indigestion.
Another option is preparing your own food in the suites. There are some suites with full or partial kitchens, refrigerators, or you may bring your own hot plate and request refrigerators. If you don’t want to cook at least stock up on fruit and vegetables. Or just avoid the resorts entirely and stay in your own home.
Fuck You Smashville.
2-0 at the end of one.
Whatever.
I didn't bet on the Blues but I don't like this Bullshit.
Buffalo up 7-1 against the Pens after two.
I didn't bet on Buffalo either cause I'm lazy.
I did get down on a substantial Two Teamer with the Leafs and Lightning.
Tampa Locked in at 6-0 after the second period.
Leafs better play hard or I'm gonna be pissed.
Yeah, I don't account like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJI said it is worth something. Even before he brought it up. 2 to1, 3 to 1. I am not doing that. And then I would have to subtract for all the antacids and peptobismol needed when eating all that casino crap. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by monetI mean Coach ain't wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Comp is worth something in monetary value.
I get over 100 comp a day at one Casino.
You got to eat.
Plus, you don't have to cook or do any dishes.
I get to go orders all the time.
Easy Peasy.
Especially when you're playing a game that has over 100% return + points and mail.
Comp = Cash
Maybe not dollar for dollar but certainly 2 or 3 to 1 depending.
At the end of the day, I count up all my cash.
That's how we see who's winning.
This game isn't like football; you don't get paid for yardage.
My point is that Comp is huge, if you're banging out machines.
I guess baccarat too as MDawg has proven.
Rooms are nice if you plan to be at one casino for an extended amount of time.
Cruises are great but I've passed on over 25 of them in the last 6 years.
They should give you 50% Free Play if you pass on a cruise or comp or something.
FUCK, that pisses me off.
After my last cruise, I got cabin fever pretty bad and don't really want to go on anymore.
Although, I am thinking of taking the next one to Hawaii but that requires effort.
I hate effort.
I have asked a simple question you don't want to answer for whatever reason?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzAxelwolf, if you lived in LV for 20 years and don't know how this stuff worked, I can't help you. You must be an idiot, to put it bluntly. You criticize me and have literally no fucking idea about anything?Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfCan you explain how this all worked, from start to finish?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
You made picks and they were published where?
then those places did what exactly?
What/whose line was used?
During the interview can you have a few clients go on record?
LOL. What an arrogant, brain dead prick. You think because you wander around playing slot machines, you're God's gift to gambling? WTF? I'm not sure which blows my mind more -- that you don't know this stuff or that you have the gall to comment about it when you know nothing.
Here's a hint -- since I don't comment on blackjack or slots or poker or even hockey betting or NBA betting (well, once, 30 years ago) -- before shooting off your mouth, know something about the subject. Don't assume you're God's gift. That's my tip to you.
What a fucking idiot. Seriously.
Here's what's mind-blowing to me. The sports gambling subculture in which I have lived for 40 years is gigantic compared to the "AP" subculture. Both in number and quality of experts, the importation of expertise from fields to apply to sports gambling, and in terms of people who have tried to conquer it. Yet the "APs" are oblivious. Now that sports gambling is legal, the "APs" just presume they can import some fifth grade math and and their mighty wits and conquer it all. It's truly comical.
I lived in Vegas since 1990 and started full-time AP in about 1993-1994, my main focus was not AP NFL Sports Betting. I was able to watch or listen to almost all the games at that time. I did do very well in the NFL, even winning 1st and 2nd back to back (should have been first but the tie-breaker was entered wrong)in my first and second sports contests I ever entered(vs thousands of entries). My main focus was not on Sports it was on casino promotions, which included anything and everything such as BlackJack, Keno, overpayers, coupon hustling, drawings, Slot/VP progressives, rebates, sports, horses linked/shared bonus machines, casino machine mistakes, and much more. I never paid attention to any sports mumbo jumbo publications or followed the sports news. Sports was a side gig for me and I only bet when I was confident I had the best of it. I wasn't betting more than $300 to 1k per game. I did book some small action with people I knew for a short period of time.
Over time I stopped watching NFL and betting because I didn't have the time given that there was much more value and guaranteed money in other things (Some plays were thousands per hour with little risk, I.E double jackpot promos) Also, I knew I didn't know enough to be confident I wasn't just getting lucky.
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Originally Posted by monet