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08-03-2017, 07:46 AM
regnis

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Originally Posted by RS__

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Originally Posted by regnis

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Originally Posted by RS__

Like I said before, yes. The bet would be based on the theoretical return of the game, not the variance, like Alan says.

What does that mean? The bet would be based on the theoretical return of the game. Would it not be a bet on the actual results?? WTF???

Yes, it would be based on the theoretical return of the machine. That's the bet I'm offering, since that's the bet Alan thought Mickey was offering coach belly originally.

In case you guys haven't figured it out yet -- I'm showing how silly of a stance Alan had that the bet was based on the return of the game, since that would be an automatic win for Mickey. Remember when Alan was saying it doesn't matter if coach played a single line game or a multi line game, because (to Alan) the bet "wasn't based on variance"?

So whatever you were trying to show, Coach and I saw through it. I thought you were just being sneaky but you were attempting to show up Alan. So now, is there a proposed REAL bet out there?
08-03-2017, 09:11 AM
coach belly

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Originally Posted by RS__

it would be based on the theoretical return of the machine. That's the bet I'm offering

I still don't know what this means.

Can you give a more straightforward explanation of the terms/rules of the bet that you are offering?
08-03-2017, 09:17 AM
regnis

Coach--my interpretation is that he is saying he will bet you that the theoretical on a 98% game is 98%. In other words, he is not offering you a legitimate bet.

So as usual, no one is putting up. And I think Coach was in on a legitimate bet. Too bad.Coach tried.
08-03-2017, 09:40 AM
coach belly

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Originally Posted by regnis

Coach--my interpretation is that he is saying he will bet you that the theoretical on a 98% game is 98%. In other words, he is not offering you a legitimate bet.

Oh...then what was all this about?

It seemed pretty straightforward at the time, didn't occur to me that we needed an interpreter.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

Are you offering to take this bet...any amount and any odds...no strings attached?

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

I would have no problem laying someone 100 to 1 that they won't be ahead on a 98% game after 1 million hands.

Like I said before, yes. The bet would be based on the theoretical return of the game, not the variance, like Alan says. I'll cut you a break, you don't even have to play 1 million hands. You can play any amount of hands.

1. It has to be worth my time.
2. No weasel clause. Nothing other than the actual game can be used (ie: no freeplay, comps, promos, etc.).
08-03-2017, 11:44 AM
blackhole

18 Pages and still counting of endless nonsense. I keep coming back just to make certain all my previous posts containing my own assumptions and opinions are holding up. This is even worse than the fake news media, which I also assume this same group of bullshitters can't get enough off either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVSRm80WzZk
08-03-2017, 11:55 AM
RS__

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

So... suppose it is all about variance? Do you guys want to have the bet/contest or not?

Variance can go either way, as we know. And according to Dancer, Wizard and Grochowski and everybody else, the EV does not change whether played on 1 hand or 100,000 hands which doesn't do much for this "variance" issue, does it?

Is the bet on or not because I want to be there to record it.

There's not going to be a bet.

Yes (the original bet from Mickey) was all about variance. How else do you suppose someone would win on a 98% game without variance?

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Originally Posted by regnis

Coach--my interpretation is that he is saying he will bet you that the theoretical on a 98% game is 98%. In other words, he is not offering you a legitimate bet.

Pretty much, yeah.
08-03-2017, 12:05 PM
Alan Mendelson

It would really destroy the APs if Coach had a bet and won the bet because he had a profit on a 98% game. If it happened the APs wouldn't know what to say or do.
08-03-2017, 12:15 PM
Biloxi Bill

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by RS__

it would be based on the theoretical return of the machine. That's the bet I'm offering

I still don't know what this means.

Can you give a more straightforward explanation of the terms/rules of the bet that you are offering?

Belly you`re a fucking moron, can`t you see that....you`re not betting anyone you friggin bullshitter
08-03-2017, 12:35 PM
Alan Mendelson

I'm scratching my head over this Biloxi character. Has he ever submitted any comment of substance or is it all more of his spam (because the rest of us have more class than he does)?
08-03-2017, 12:43 PM
Biloxi Bill

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I'm scratching my head over this Biloxi character. Has he ever submitted any comment of substance or is it all more of his spam (because the rest of us have more class than he does)?

Don`t scratch, it`s bad for you and makes you appear to either have a disease or be a canine....instead you should wonder why as a man, you let Singer punk you out continuously and still follow him around with a short skirt and pom-poms
08-03-2017, 01:39 PM
quahaug

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

It would really destroy the APs if Coach had a bet and won the bet because he had a profit on a 98% game. If it happened the APs wouldn't know what to say or do.

They would say a very rare event happened, like seventeen yo's in a row. After all someone wins Powerball occasionally too.
08-03-2017, 02:21 PM
Alan Mendelson

It was 18 and they said it never happened. And in their world of long term math they can't believe anyone winning on a 98% game. They'd say the world must be flat in that case.

I've heard it all.
08-03-2017, 02:27 PM
coach belly

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Originally Posted by quahaug

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

It would really destroy the APs if Coach had a bet and won the bet because he had a profit on a 98% game. If it happened the APs wouldn't know what to say or do.

They would say a very rare event happened, like seventeen yo's in a row.

Then I'll give them a rematch and win again.

I'll quit while ahead after the first million hands...one cent is my win goal...then start another session.

This all circles back to the OP, and my first reply.

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Originally Posted by blackhole

I think the AP’s at least on these bullshit sites are either 2 bit gamblers, homeless, and are just plain full of shit.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

Could be any or all of the above, but one characteristic these keyboard clowns share...they have the courage of a groundhog.
08-03-2017, 02:30 PM
coach belly

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Originally Posted by regnis

I estimate another 100 posts without an agreement.

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Originally Posted by RS__

There's not going to be a bet.

RS must have taken the under.
08-03-2017, 02:36 PM
coach belly

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I'm scratching my head over this Biloxi character.

He's mentally ill.

He hasn't changed since his meltdowns as LoneStarHorse, OneArmedBandit, HesNotMyPres, and all the other screen names he's used over the years.

This is his last refuge, he's run out of forums to post on too.
08-03-2017, 02:45 PM
quahaug

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

It was 18 and they said it never happened. And in their world of long term math they can't believe anyone winning on a 98% game. They'd say the world must be flat in that case.

I've heard it all.

Sorry. Eighteen yo's in a row is many times more improbable than being ahead after one million hands on a 98% game.
08-03-2017, 02:53 PM
Biloxi Bill

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I'm scratching my head over this Biloxi character.

He's mentally ill.

He hasn't changed since his meltdowns as LoneStarHorse, OneArmedBandit, HesNotMyPres, and all the other screen names he's used over the years.

This is his last refuge, he's run out of forums to post on too.

Don`t you have a forum to pay off that you just robbed of entry fees and disappeared?. Careful scumbag, or else I`ll post the link so everyone can see for themselves. You`re writing styles are eerily similar. *wink wink*
08-03-2017, 04:17 PM
RS__

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Originally Posted by quahaug

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

It would really destroy the APs if Coach had a bet and won the bet because he had a profit on a 98% game. If it happened the APs wouldn't know what to say or do.

They would say a very rare event happened, like seventeen yo's in a row. After all someone wins Powerball occasionally too.

The odds of winning tomorrow's powerball are (is?) approx. 1 in 292 million (1 in 292,201,338 to be exact). The odds of the next sequence of rolls being 18 yo's in a row is 1 in 3.9346408e+22 (or 1 in ~39,346,408,000,000,000,000,000). Actually, it's less likely than that, since that doesn't include the 17/18 chance of not seeing a yo on the 19'th roll.

You are 460,829 times more likely to win the powerball two times in a row than you are to see the 18 yo's in a row.

Next we're going to hear Alan flipped a fair coin and it landed on heads 100 times in a row.
08-03-2017, 04:55 PM
coach belly

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Originally Posted by Biloxi Bill

Don`t you have a forum to pay off that you just robbed of entry fees and disappeared?. Careful scumbag, or else I`ll post the link so everyone can see for themselves.

Go ahead and post the link, let everyone see for themselves.
08-03-2017, 05:06 PM
quahaug

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Originally Posted by RS__

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Originally Posted by quahaug

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

It would really destroy the APs if Coach had a bet and won the bet because he had a profit on a 98% game. If it happened the APs wouldn't know what to say or do.

They would say a very rare event happened, like seventeen yo's in a row. After all someone wins Powerball occasionally too.

The odds of winning tomorrow's powerball are (is?) approx. 1 in 292 million (1 in 292,201,338 to be exact). The odds of the next sequence of rolls being 18 yo's in a row is 1 in 3.9346408e+22 (or 1 in ~39,346,408,000,000,000,000,000). Actually, it's less likely than that, since that doesn't include the 17/18 chance of not seeing a yo on the 19'th roll.

You are 460,829 times more likely to win the powerball two times in a row than you are to see the 18 yo's in a row.

Next we're going to hear Alan flipped a fair coin and it landed on heads 100 times in a row.

The problem is the odds are not zero which is why Alan can be... well... Alan.

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