The WoV Thread

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

At no time was I ever handed a copy of the CTR. Many times you don't even know (or care) that they're filling one out. It's between the casino or financial institution and the feds.

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So if Axel asked a forum member to post a copy of his CTR as proof of a big table game win, then his question indicates that Axel doesn't know too much about CTRs...correct?

And since Axel implied that a big table game winner would be presented with a CTR, then that indicates that Axel hasn't had a big table game win...right?

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I don't know everything that axel said or implied because of the amount of reading that would take. But based on my many experiences being paid, withdrawing, depositing, and wiring cash amounts of $10k and higher, axel would never knowingly claim bogus info regarding copies of CTR's. I don't know about his experience with table games regarding this issue, but I have no question about him having lots of experience with cash transactions of $10k and higher. And that alone would tell me he knows they don't copy you.

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Originally Posted by blackhole

Paying dearly to be treated like royalty is fun when you could afford it. It’s even more fun on the occasions you’re paid to be treated like royalty. Something I’m sure you never were able to experience. Just keep going with your guessing narratives that help feed your phycological needs. You’re like a mini-me Mickycrimm.

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It takes a really stupid person to pay five times the price for something and an even stupider person to brag about it. That's what you don't get, braindeadblackhole. Paying for it costs a fraction of what you are losing in the casinos to get it.

They have a formula where they are willing to spend about 20% of what their theoretical win is against you.l

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by Bob21

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Originally Posted by MDawg

mickeycrimm constantly posting comments I will never read in threads that he claims he is ignoring,

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MDawg, it looks like you’re close to reaching the highest level of forum hierarchy. What is that? When someone actually puts you on “ignore”. Someone putting you on “ignore” is basically a poster “tapping out”, to put it in UFC jargon. These posters are basically telling you, you’re making too much sense, but it doesn’t agree with their world view, so they no longer want to even see your posts.

Btw, “ignore” is something they can activate so they can’t see your post. I don’t even know how to do it, or where it is, since I will never “tap out”, I mean put someone on “ignore”.

The other thing you’ll find when they put you on “ignore” is they will tell you this again and again, basically letting you know they are obsessed with you.

Being on someone’s “ignore” list is like being at the zen level on forums. I’ve reached this level several times on two different forums. It’ll be interesting to see if you can get there...I think you might be close with a couple posters. Lol

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MDawg announced with great fanfare that he was putting me on ignore. Then in a subsequent post he said with great fanfare again that he had both tableplay and me on ignore. This morning in the MDawg thread at 8 AM I said I would be ignoring MDawg in the future. At 11 AM MDawg makes a post saying I claimed I'm ignoring him. How could he possibly know that if he was really ignoring me. He fell right into my trap and exposed himself. He's never had me on ignore. He's been reading me all along. He's obsessed with me.

But he has to act like he's not reading me so he can ignore what I've been saying because he can't win the argument that negative games are good for making money. If you want to know how to not beat gambling then follow MDawg's advice. It's pure rubbish.

I do ignore MDawg to a certain extent. I never did like reading his trip reports. Who gives a fuck? I don't. The reason they lavish all those comps on a person is because they think that person is a sucker, compulsive gambler, loser. So the loser has a trip or two where he wins. So what? It's a cost of doing business. He's still a sucker to them.

I mostly glance over his posts and avoid reading the whole thing. Its all bullshit and a waste of time anyway. It's all the same thing regurgitated over and over again. The guy rarely has a cogent thought.

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Okay Mickey, I stand corrected on who is ignoring who. I have only been spot reading some of these threads off and on, so I haven’t been keeping up.

My main point is I’ve always found this whole “ignore” thing funny. It was a big deal over at BJTF a while ago. Members were encouraging others to ignore this or that person. They spent more time posting about who they were ignoring than posting anything relevant.

I will say this though, I’m very proud of Kj. I’ve noticed he hasn’t responded to one of my posts lately, so I can tell he’s doing a good job in the ignore department. People should take some lessons from Kj on how to ignore someone with class. He’s ignoring me without telling the world about it every other post.

Who knows, there is probably a bunch of pm going around about who to ignore. I don’t participate in the below ground stuff, but I’ve heard that’s a whole nother subculture within the forum world. For now I’m staying above ground with my postings.

The only way I can see Mickey's posts is when someone quotes them, as Bob just did. What is funny is that weeks ago Mickey declared that he was going to ignore me, but he keeps posting in my thread, and from what I can see from Bob21's quote of the Crimm's most recent post, Crimm is talking about me nonstop. Hey Mickey! You said you would stop posting about me a long time ago and yet you apparently still are! Keep it up. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Bob21

I don’t participate in the below ground stuff, but I’ve heard that’s a whole nother subculture within the forum world. For now I’m staying above ground with my postings.

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Note the number of guests. There's your underground. It doesn't exist.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

No where did I ever say a big winner would be presented with a CTR here.

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No where did you ever?...or just not here?

When you asked to see the CTR, who did you think had it to show you?

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I already conceded to the fact that I may have made a mistake. But I guess you want me to go over it again: It was so long ago I don't remember why I asked what I did, it could have been that I wanted him to respond to see if he actually knew that. Perhaps it was already past that point and he was already figure how it was considered to be a fraud. I could have easily just made a mistake and wasn't actually thinking. I know I have actually seen you CTR forms being filled out at the cage and I have copies of them in regards to court cases. Back in the day when I worked at a casino I seen ctr's being filled out all the time. I myself had to fill out various different paperwork. So there's a chance that I just imagine for a moment there is actually a physical CTR that is given out. Perhaps I was thinking about a physical win loss statement and said CTR's. I stated on here they don't give you physical CTR and I had no clue what Mdawg was even referring to. Back in the day you could actually get daily handwritten win loss statements upon request the amounts would be marked down each time the player bought in. I've already stated I'm not an advanced table games AP compared to some of these guys. I normally would only play table games when there's something super juicy such as 2-1 blackjack, a new exploitable table game, match plays, Los rebates, Or some other rare opportunity. The last time I played a +EV table game was that the Rio when they came out with that new Twisted 21 game were they made a mistake in the calculations(it didn't last very long before they fix it). Last time I play Baccarat for any significant amount was when the Lucky Dragon was open. I'm not some degenerate chasing high limit -EV Baccarat. I'm pretty sure I can count the number of times I've played Baccarat on my fingers and toes. I don't need to have a s*** ton of experience on a particular game to realize -EV IS -EV. I don't need to be a master electrician to realize if I touch some live bare wires I'm probably going to get the s*** shocked out of me.

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/352542b...1-82d6fcb240bb

Axel's whole story is unraveling.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

At no time was I ever handed a copy of the CTR. Many times you don't even know (or care) that they're filling one out. It's between the casino or financial institution and the feds.

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So if Axel asked a forum member to post a copy of his CTR as proof of a big table game win, then his question indicates that Axel doesn't know too much about CTRs...correct?

And since Axel implied that a big table game winner would be presented with a CTR, then that indicates that Axel hasn't had a big table game win...right?

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I don't know everything that axel said or implied because of the amount of reading that would take. But based on my many experiences being paid, withdrawing, depositing, and wiring cash amounts of $10k and higher, axel would never knowingly claim bogus info regarding copies of CTR's. I don't know about his experience with table games regarding this issue, but I have no question about him having lots of experience with cash transactions of $10k and higher. And that alone would tell me he knows they don't copy you.

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Yeah you would have to go back and read how it all went down. I never claimed you have ever had a physical copy of a CTR(on here I claim just the opposite). There's a chance I asked about someone else showing a physical copy of a CTR to see how they would respond.

There's a chance whenever I made that inquiry I just wasn't thinking properly and I was thinking about W2 geez or something.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/352542b...1-82d6fcb240bb

Axel's whole story is unraveling.

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What part of my story is unraveling? Please show me claims that I have made that whatever I said can now be proven untrue. Don't speculate, don't make up nonsense, just come up with facts. Then once you do all that please come up with someone known enough for that has a reputation of a real life person who has met other real life people that can back up any of your claims.

I can't find my post anymore and I didn't see a response, but I ask you a question in regards to the videos you keep posting and how they seem to be of an older nature. From what I can remember you claim to be young, personally I think you're old as f*** and that's why you keep up posting up old ass videos. I think you're lying about being young. May I just ask approximately how old you are I think you mentioned it before but I can't remember.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

I guess you want me to go over it again:

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The lady doth protest too much.

Exactly.

Plus he's much older than I am and he keeps acting like he doesn't recognize the stuff I post.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Exactly.

Plus he's much older than I am and he keeps acting like he doesn't recognize the stuff I post.

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I don't know what you're talking about, of course I recognized some of the stuff you're posting about. I've already said in public that I'm in my forties, but I keep up with the times. You seem to be avoiding my question, is there a reason for that?

Yes I don't want a con man or any of the other potential weirdos and robbers you alluded to to know too much about me. You tried to con me too, with that stupid "bankroll me and pay my losses" offer.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

I don't want a con man or any of the other potential weirdos and robbers you alluded to to know too much about me.

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What's the point?

No matter what you answer, he'll claim that you're lying, even if he can't remember your answer.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

I think you're old as f*** ...I think you're lying about being young. May I just ask approximately how old you are I think you mentioned it before but I can't remember.

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Right. :)

But in order to question someone and pass the straight face test, you have to first know what you are talking about, and we've established that Axel does not. Among others.

Another thing is, if someone claims to have such a poor memory, how does he get away with claiming to have ever won anything at say, card counting? But in Axel's complicated remonstrances there I think he was admitting that he hasn't done much table play at all anyway. Still, so you don't need to have a good memory to win at slot cheating either?

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by blackhole

Paying dearly to be treated like royalty is fun when you could afford it. It’s even more fun on the occasions you’re paid to be treated like royalty. Something I’m sure you never were able to experience. Just keep going with your guessing narratives that help feed your phycological needs. You’re like a mini-me Mickycrimm.

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It takes a really stupid person to pay five times the price for something and an even stupider person to brag about it. That's what you don't get, braindeadblackhole. Paying for it costs a fraction of what you are losing in the casinos to get it.

They have a formula where they are willing to spend about 20% of what their theoretical win is against you.l

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Broken-down two-bit hustlers like you could never get it. Me only paying five times the price for what they give me would be a bargain.

You could never enjoy this level of entertainment since there is light years between us. I’m sleeping in suites with 5 star room service, while you’re sleeping on bar stools in a two-bit casino next to the OK Corral.

Do you get it now?

I don't think he's here at the moment. MickeyCrimm followed me to GF, where I do not yet have him on Ignore, and has been posting about me at the rate of one post per minute, so far. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

I don't know everything that axel said or implied because of the amount of reading that would take. But based on my many experiences being paid, withdrawing, depositing, and wiring cash amounts of $10k and higher, axel would never knowingly claim bogus info regarding copies of CTR's. I don't know about his experience with table games regarding this issue, but I have no question about him having lots of experience with cash transactions of $10k and higher. And that alone would tell me he knows they don't copy you.

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You only need to be concerned about CTR’s and STR’s if you’re doing something wrong. Money laundering, tax evasion, other crimes etc. That’s all they’re looking for. Regardless how many CTR's the bank transaction triggers. No one is going to bother anyone if it’s obviously legit. Even if it involves gambling.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by MDawg

I don't want a con man or any of the other potential weirdos and robbers you alluded to to know too much about me.

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What's the point?

No matter what you answer, he'll claim that you're lying, even if he can't remember your answer.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

I think you're old as f*** ...I think you're lying about being young. May I just ask approximately how old you are I think you mentioned it before but I can't remember.

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What's your point. No matter what axel says MDawg will claim he's lying.

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Originally Posted by blackhole

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by blackhole

Paying dearly to be treated like royalty is fun when you could afford it. It’s even more fun on the occasions you’re paid to be treated like royalty. Something I’m sure you never were able to experience. Just keep going with your guessing narratives that help feed your phycological needs. You’re like a mini-me Mickycrimm.

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It takes a really stupid person to pay five times the price for something and an even stupider person to brag about it. That's what you don't get, braindeadblackhole. Paying for it costs a fraction of what you are losing in the casinos to get it.

They have a formula where they are willing to spend about 20% of what their theoretical win is against you.l

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Broken-down two-bit hustlers like you could never get it. Me only paying five times the price for what they give me would be a bargain.

You could never enjoy this level of entertainment since there is light years between us. I’m sleeping in suites with 5 star room service, while you’re sleeping on bar stools in a two-bit casino next to the OK Corral.

Do you get it now?

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I've gotten it all along. You're a sucker that the casinos love. You have a tatoo of a big S on your forehead that stands for sucker. Show me a happy loser and I'll show you a loser. Brokeassblackhole is a happy loser.