Tiffany's gift cards

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Then you don't know Bob Dancer, Jean Scott, Elliott Fromm, Frank Kneeland and a few more AP's. All of them use the full value of gift cards every time they're part of the equation, in their claims of turning -EV plays into positive ones. But not the higher-up folks here. Selling them at discounts just because someone needs the money destroys the going-in position. It's like Dancer claiming to have made $150,000 in a calendar year, then getting thrown out of the house in a nasty divorce, thereby being scalped of a quick quarter mil. Anybody think he ever went back and adjusted any of his numbers claims because his ex is the one who hit "his" $400k jackpot?

Sense says these are excuses. We keep getting lectured by the self-proclaimed ap's here that "no AP would ever go into a play without knowing the exact value of the play." Now we can easily discount max's usual stupid reply because of his envy. And I strongly suspect that if the cast of characters above say they use gift cards in their calculations, all ap's do. What is unclear is why I can't get another SD implement answer without a world of contradiction from other ap-gurus.

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Per the usual you are ass backwards. No one calculates the full value of gift cards into the play if they plan on selling them at a discount. It's the discounted price thats calculated into the play, dumass. You are clutching at straws and looking stupid as ever.

And Bob kept the house. Shirley moved to California, idiot. Remember? Bonnie helped her pack. No way that fact escaped you. You are just straight up lying about it, Robocchio.

And on the 400K royal they were playing as a team on his bankroll. No way that escaped you either.

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You're like the apologist who never gives up.

Instead of reading whatever your idol Dancer writes you should be reading the divorce decree....or even talk to Shirley's family as I have. You act like he got everything and gave her nothing, which is just the opposite of what occurred, only because you want it to be your way and not the actual way. You want it to be that the woman got screwed, because of your bad/inactive life with women. He does not have the house you moron. Look it up--it's all old news.

Shirley's family says she hit the royal and the W2G was issued in her name because she was sitting at the machine playing it while he "instructed". It was played on money just won from a $25 royal where the W2G was issued to him because he was the player and she sat at the machine next to him watching. That's clear evidence that she won the $400k. Again, old news. Get your facts right next time. You'd have learned that trait if you weren't a high school dropout driving a junker with over 100,000 miles on it. :)

Now it's time to put your thinking cap on. All the apologist "AP's" are running on to defend "sure thing/good guy/AP-extraordinaire" Axel, who supposedly is well-known and has a plethora of contacts in the gambling community. Yet for some reason, because neither he nor his wife don't know how to appreciate the artistic and overall value of Tiffany products--and I agree, for a street gambler that's not at all unusual--with ALL these "highly bankrolled" and "highly respected" friends and associates he's said to have, HE NEEDS TO COME ON A FORUM WITH EIGHT POSTERS AND BEG TO SELL THEM?

mickey, if that doesn't smack of needing cash FAST....what does??

But I know this is not something the anonymous bunch here can fathom, so just push it under the rug.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I have banned blackhole from this thread, and deleted some messages.

Please do not clutter this thread with garbage or trolling.

Axel asked me if he could post this Tiffany gift card thread here, and I said it was fine. From what I know, Axel has been around the AP community for decades and never screwed anyone, so I don't see this being much of a risk.

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Depends on what side of the fence you are on.
The Casino side may say Axel has screwed them out of millions of dollars.
They may say he screwed them out of a bunch of Tiffany Gift Cards.
It is a known fact that Axel has been escorted out of Casinos by security more than once.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Then you don't know Bob Dancer, Jean Scott, Elliott Fromm, Frank Kneeland and a few more AP's. All of them use the full value of gift cards every time they're part of the equation, in their claims of turning -EV plays into positive ones. But not the higher-up folks here. Selling them at discounts just because someone needs the money destroys the going-in position. It's like Dancer claiming to have made $150,000 in a calendar year, then getting thrown out of the house in a nasty divorce, thereby being scalped of a quick quarter mil. Anybody think he ever went back and adjusted any of his numbers claims because his ex is the one who hit "his" $400k jackpot?

Sense says these are excuses. We keep getting lectured by the self-proclaimed ap's here that "no AP would ever go into a play without knowing the exact value of the play." Now we can easily discount max's usual stupid reply because of his envy. And I strongly suspect that if the cast of characters above say they use gift cards in their calculations, all ap's do. What is unclear is why I can't get another SD implement answer without a world of contradiction from other ap-gurus.

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Per the usual you are ass backwards. No one calculates the full value of gift cards into the play if they plan on selling them at a discount. It's the discounted price thats calculated into the play, dumass. You are clutching at straws and looking stupid as ever.

And Bob kept the house. Shirley moved to California, idiot. Remember? Bonnie helped her pack. No way that fact escaped you. You are just straight up lying about it, Robocchio.

And on the 400K royal they were playing as a team on his bankroll. No way that escaped you either.

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You're like the apologist who never gives up.

Instead of reading whatever your idol Dancer writes you should be reading the divorce decree....or even talk to Shirley's family as I have. You act like he got everything and gave her nothing, which is just the opposite of what occurred, only because you want it to be your way and not the actual way. You want it to be that the woman got screwed, because of your bad/inactive life with women. He does not have the house you moron. Look it up--it's all old news.

Shirley's family says she hit the royal and the W2G was issued in her name because she was sitting at the machine playing it while he "instructed". It was played on money just won from a $25 royal where the W2G was issued to him because he was the player and she sat at the machine next to him watching. That's clear evidence that she won the $400k. Again, old news. Get your facts right next time.

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You just can't help yourself, can you. More lies and tall tales from Robocchio. So after years of you trashing Bob AND Shirley in the forums her family just sat right down with you and had a nice chat....giving you all the juicy details of the divorce....and even showing you the divorce decree. Yeah, you betcha, Robocchio. Shirley hates you just as much as Bob does. That nose is getting longer and longer.

I never said she didn't hit the 400K royal, dumbo. I said they were playing as a team and on his bankroll. According to the book, which I can go back to and easily dig it out, after he hit the 100K royal he gave her a certain amount of money to potshot the $100 machine. Who the W2-G's were issued to are irrelevant. He taught her how to play. He bankrolled her. Your harping on "She hit the royal! She hit the royal!" is a red herring and totally irrelevant.

And I never said that in the divorce he got the goldmine and she got the shaft. What is public knowledge is the financial end of the divorce went smoothly. The communal property was divided equally and she moved to California.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Now it's time to put your thinking cap on. All the apologist "AP's" are running on to defend "sure thing/good guy/AP-extraordinaire" Axel, who supposedly is well-known and has a plethora of contacts in the gambling community. Yet for some reason, because neither he nor his wife don't know how to appreciate the artistic and overall value of Tiffany products--and I agree, for a street gambler that's not at all unusual--with ALL these "highly bankrolled" and "highly respected" friends and associates he's said to have, HE NEEDS TO COME ON A FORUM WITH EIGHT POSTERS AND BEG TO SELL THEM? mickey, if that doesn't smack of needing cash FAST....what does?? But I know this is not something the anonymous bunch here can fathom, so just push it under the rug.

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So if someone is selling something they are hard up for cash? You must have been hard up so you sold that camper, right? He could easily sell the stuff on eBay. And I didn't see any begging going on. That's just your phony embellishment. What you don't know and won't learn is how these kind of advantage plays work.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Speaking of gift cards, I ran a play at Cosmo in 2012 which netted me $6k in Zappos gift cards. I've been slowly using them, as has my son and girlfriend.

Laughably, Zappos made an incredibly boneheaded mistake regarding the gift card numbers.

They were 16 digits, which is fine, but the first 10 digits are all the same, making them incredibly easy to hack (only a million different combos) for anyone who realized this.

How easy would this be to hack? If just 10,000 cards were made, you could guess a card number correctly once out of every hundred tries, on average!

Not surprisingly, by now, most of my gift cards have been hacked. Zappos knows about this idiotic mistake and honors them, but it requires me to call in and explain the whole thing each time, which blows.

I considered selling these at like 75%-80%, but I ended up saying fuck it, and just kept them, knowing that the family will eventually need enough shoes to use them all up.

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This is the same with all credit cards.

This is why you need to verify the date and ccv (3 or 4 digit number).

Many gift cards also have a pin that needs to be scratched off.

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Originally Posted by monet

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I have banned blackhole from this thread, and deleted some messages.

Please do not clutter this thread with garbage or trolling.

Axel asked me if he could post this Tiffany gift card thread here, and I said it was fine. From what I know, Axel has been around the AP community for decades and never screwed anyone, so I don't see this being much of a risk.

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Depends on what side of the fence you are on.
The Casino side may say Axel has screwed them out of millions of dollars.
They may say he screwed them out of a bunch of Tiffany Gift Cards.
It is a known fact that Axel has been escorted out of Casinos by security more than once.

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A "known fact"...or just another AP wishful thinking, unverified/unverifiable feel-good claim?

That's what I like about you anonymous armchair gamblers.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by monet

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I have banned blackhole from this thread, and deleted some messages.

Please do not clutter this thread with garbage or trolling.

Axel asked me if he could post this Tiffany gift card thread here, and I said it was fine. From what I know, Axel has been around the AP community for decades and never screwed anyone, so I don't see this being much of a risk.

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Depends on what side of the fence you are on.
The Casino side may say Axel has screwed them out of millions of dollars.
They may say he screwed them out of a bunch of Tiffany Gift Cards.
It is a known fact that Axel has been escorted out of Casinos by security more than once.

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A "known fact"...or just another AP wishful thinking, unverified/unverifiable feel-good claim?

That's what I like about you anonymous armchair gamblers.

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The Detroit Lions play Amped-Up on Thanksgiving!
They also enjoy grilling burgers and walks on the beach every year on this Holiday.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Now it's time to put your thinking cap on. All the apologist "AP's" are running on to defend "sure thing/good guy/AP-extraordinaire" Axel, who supposedly is well-known and has a plethora of contacts in the gambling community. Yet for some reason, because neither he nor his wife don't know how to appreciate the artistic and overall value of Tiffany products--and I agree, for a street gambler that's not at all unusual--with ALL these "highly bankrolled" and "highly respected" friends and associates he's said to have, HE NEEDS TO COME ON A FORUM WITH EIGHT POSTERS AND BEG TO SELL THEM? mickey, if that doesn't smack of needing cash FAST....what does?? But I know this is not something the anonymous bunch here can fathom, so just push it under the rug.

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So if someone is selling something they are hard up for cash? You must have been hard up so you sold that camper, right? He could easily sell the stuff on eBay. And I didn't see any begging going on. That's just your phony embellishment. What you don't know and won't learn is how these kind of advantage plays work.

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You just keep on proving that an education is needed before anyone, esp. bums, should be allowed to post anything on the internet.

I bumped into Shirley's family at the Edgewater twice in the not-too-distant past. She had not moved to Calif. as of less than a year ago. You blindly believe all the stories Dancer writes, simply because you spew the same type of lies in all of your by-gone tales. The divorce info? All available online. Give it a try.Or maybe you wont--imagine mickey finally having to suck in the facts.

As I said, a moron like you would never want to understand how and why an addicted problem gambler like axel would ever possibly need to peddle gift cards for a discount on a forum with so few participants. Wake up bozo! He knows he could never unload them at face value, and by golly gee....a gambler actually buying something decent for his wife, who he defaced here as unworthy of Tiffany by blaming her?

All those supposed "highly bankrolled/highly knowlegeable" contacts he and others paint him as having, don't exist in any format other than being nothing but degenerate gamblers like him, and obviously they're all like you and have zero knowledge of Tiffany products.

Wise up.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Speaking of gift cards, I ran a play at Cosmo in 2012 which netted me $6k in Zappos gift cards. I've been slowly using them, as has my son and girlfriend.

Laughably, Zappos made an incredibly boneheaded mistake regarding the gift card numbers.

They were 16 digits, which is fine, but the first 10 digits are all the same, making them incredibly easy to hack (only a million different combos) for anyone who realized this.

How easy would this be to hack? If just 10,000 cards were made, you could guess a card number correctly once out of every hundred tries, on average!

Not surprisingly, by now, most of my gift cards have been hacked. Zappos knows about this idiotic mistake and honors them, but it requires me to call in and explain the whole thing each time, which blows.

I considered selling these at like 75%-80%, but I ended up saying fuck it, and just kept them, knowing that the family will eventually need enough shoes to use them all up.

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This is odd stuff. Who in their right mind would EVER play for thousands of dollars in Zappo shoe cards....and who is desperate enough to even BOTHER trying to hack into someone else's shoe card?

Is this even real? Dan playing for shoes at the Cosmo? How many millions in play was required for that? And where was the post about playing at the Cosmo back in 2012? I remember the complaint about not playing enuf at Caesar's to get a free bottle of Gatorade. What's going on here anyway--one upmanship of axel's claim? C'mon man!

Are you applying for your "AP Badge of Honor" Dan??

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Now it's time to put your thinking cap on. All the apologist "AP's" are running on to defend "sure thing/good guy/AP-extraordinaire" Axel, who supposedly is well-known and has a plethora of contacts in the gambling community. Yet for some reason, because neither he nor his wife don't know how to appreciate the artistic and overall value of Tiffany products--and I agree, for a street gambler that's not at all unusual--with ALL these "highly bankrolled" and "highly respected" friends and associates he's said to have, HE NEEDS TO COME ON A FORUM WITH EIGHT POSTERS AND BEG TO SELL THEM? mickey, if that doesn't smack of needing cash FAST....what does?? But I know this is not something the anonymous bunch here can fathom, so just push it under the rug.

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So if someone is selling something they are hard up for cash? You must have been hard up so you sold that camper, right? He could easily sell the stuff on eBay. And I didn't see any begging going on. That's just your phony embellishment. What you don't know and won't learn is how these kind of advantage plays work.

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You just keep on proving that an education is needed before anyone, esp. bums, should be allowed to post anything on the internet.

I bumped into Shirley's family at the Edgewater twice in the not-too-distant past. She had not moved to Calif. as of less than a year ago. You blindly believe all the stories Dancer writes, simply because you spew the same type of lies in all of your by-gone tales. The divorce info? All available online. Give it a try.Or maybe you wont--imagine mickey finally having to suck in the facts.

As I said, a moron like you would never want to understand how and why an addicted problem gambler like axel would ever possibly need to peddle gift cards for a discount on a forum with so few participants. Wake up bozo! He knows he could never unload them at face value, and by golly gee....a gambler actually buying something decent for his wife, who he defaced here as unworthy of Tiffany by blaming her?

All those supposed "highly bankrolled/highly knowlegeable" contacts he and others paint him as having, don't exist in any format other than being nothing but degenerate gamblers like him, and obviously they're all like you and have zero knowledge of Tiffany products.

Wise up.

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Yep, and after all the trash talking for years you did to them Shirley's family rolled out the red carpet for you? Told you everything? You betcha, Robocchio. And you were snooping around online looking for their divorce papers? Proves your sick obsession with Bob Dancer. It just makes you sick that he continues to ignore you and your sick bullshit. What a psychotically sick SOB. What a baby. Grow up.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Now it's time to put your thinking cap on. All the apologist "AP's" are running on to defend "sure thing/good guy/AP-extraordinaire" Axel, who supposedly is well-known and has a plethora of contacts in the gambling community. Yet for some reason, because neither he nor his wife don't know how to appreciate the artistic and overall value of Tiffany products--and I agree, for a street gambler that's not at all unusual--with ALL these "highly bankrolled" and "highly respected" friends and associates he's said to have, HE NEEDS TO COME ON A FORUM WITH EIGHT POSTERS AND BEG TO SELL THEM? mickey, if that doesn't smack of needing cash FAST....what does?? But I know this is not something the anonymous bunch here can fathom, so just push it under the rug.

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So if someone is selling something they are hard up for cash? You must have been hard up so you sold that camper, right? He could easily sell the stuff on eBay. And I didn't see any begging going on. That's just your phony embellishment. What you don't know and won't learn is how these kind of advantage plays work.

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You just keep on proving that an education is needed before anyone, esp. bums, should be allowed to post anything on the internet.

I bumped into Shirley's family at the Edgewater twice in the not-too-distant past. She had not moved to Calif. as of less than a year ago. You blindly believe all the stories Dancer writes, simply because you spew the same type of lies in all of your by-gone tales. The divorce info? All available online. Give it a try.Or maybe you wont--imagine mickey finally having to suck in the facts.

As I said, a moron like you would never want to understand how and why an addicted problem gambler like axel would ever possibly need to peddle gift cards for a discount on a forum with so few participants. Wake up bozo! He knows he could never unload them at face value, and by golly gee....a gambler actually buying something decent for his wife, who he defaced here as unworthy of Tiffany by blaming her?

All those supposed "highly bankrolled/highly knowlegeable" contacts he and others paint him as having, don't exist in any format other than being nothing but degenerate gamblers like him, and obviously they're all like you and have zero knowledge of Tiffany products.

Wise up.

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Actually, Tiffany products are highly overrated. They are comprised of a lot of Chinese junk marked up +1000%. If you know a Tiffany employee you can already get 50% off anything they sell thru them. If they give you access to the discontinued product list for employees you can get stuff that sold for 100's for as little as $5. Don't let facts get in the way of your BS though Robocchio.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

So if someone is selling something they are hard up for cash? You must have been hard up so you sold that camper, right? He could easily sell the stuff on eBay. And I didn't see any begging going on. That's just your phony embellishment. What you don't know and won't learn is how these kind of advantage plays work.

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You just keep on proving that an education is needed before anyone, esp. bums, should be allowed to post anything on the internet.

I bumped into Shirley's family at the Edgewater twice in the not-too-distant past. She had not moved to Calif. as of less than a year ago. You blindly believe all the stories Dancer writes, simply because you spew the same type of lies in all of your by-gone tales. The divorce info? All available online. Give it a try.Or maybe you wont--imagine mickey finally having to suck in the facts.

As I said, a moron like you would never want to understand how and why an addicted problem gambler like axel would ever possibly need to peddle gift cards for a discount on a forum with so few participants. Wake up bozo! He knows he could never unload them at face value, and by golly gee....a gambler actually buying something decent for his wife, who he defaced here as unworthy of Tiffany by blaming her?

All those supposed "highly bankrolled/highly knowlegeable" contacts he and others paint him as having, don't exist in any format other than being nothing but degenerate gamblers like him, and obviously they're all like you and have zero knowledge of Tiffany products.

Wise up.

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Yep, and after all the trash talking for years you did to them Shirley's family rolled out the red carpet for you? Told you everything? You betcha, Robocchio. And you were snooping around online looking for their divorce papers? Proves your sick obsession with Bob Dancer. It just makes you sick that he continues to ignore you and your sick bullshit. What a psychotically sick SOB. What a baby. Grow up.

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What a dummy. You might as well scream out loud about how you know nothing about marriage, relationships, or break-ups.

We all know the despicable way Dancer abused Shirley. So obviously, her family took HER side and can't stand him since the divorce. And guess how they talk about him ever since. Make sense yet mickey, or don't your "street smarts" get that?

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So if someone is selling something they are hard up for cash? You must have been hard up so you sold that camper, right? He could easily sell the stuff on eBay. And I didn't see any begging going on. That's just your phony embellishment. What you don't know and won't learn is how these kind of advantage plays work.

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You just keep on proving that an education is needed before anyone, esp. bums, should be allowed to post anything on the internet.

I bumped into Shirley's family at the Edgewater twice in the not-too-distant past. She had not moved to Calif. as of less than a year ago. You blindly believe all the stories Dancer writes, simply because you spew the same type of lies in all of your by-gone tales. The divorce info? All available online. Give it a try.Or maybe you wont--imagine mickey finally having to suck in the facts.

As I said, a moron like you would never want to understand how and why an addicted problem gambler like axel would ever possibly need to peddle gift cards for a discount on a forum with so few participants. Wake up bozo! He knows he could never unload them at face value, and by golly gee....a gambler actually buying something decent for his wife, who he defaced here as unworthy of Tiffany by blaming her?

All those supposed "highly bankrolled/highly knowlegeable" contacts he and others paint him as having, don't exist in any format other than being nothing but degenerate gamblers like him, and obviously they're all like you and have zero knowledge of Tiffany products.

Wise up.

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Actually, Tiffany products are highly overrated. They are comprised of a lot of Chinese junk marked up +1000%. If you know a Tiffany employee you can already get 50% off anything they sell thru them. If they give you access to the discontinued product list for employees you can get stuff that sold for 100's for as little as $5. Don't let facts get in the way of your BS though Robocchio.

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All nonsense max. The #1 product line they have is special stones and jewelry. Look it up. That debunks your "Chinese junk" theory right there. I don't know any Tiffany employees, but even a cave man can smell you stepping up to the plate to try and save axel-face.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

You just keep on proving that an education is needed before anyone, esp. bums, should be allowed to post anything on the internet.

I bumped into Shirley's family at the Edgewater twice in the not-too-distant past. She had not moved to Calif. as of less than a year ago. You blindly believe all the stories Dancer writes, simply because you spew the same type of lies in all of your by-gone tales. The divorce info? All available online. Give it a try.Or maybe you wont--imagine mickey finally having to suck in the facts.

As I said, a moron like you would never want to understand how and why an addicted problem gambler like axel would ever possibly need to peddle gift cards for a discount on a forum with so few participants. Wake up bozo! He knows he could never unload them at face value, and by golly gee....a gambler actually buying something decent for his wife, who he defaced here as unworthy of Tiffany by blaming her?

All those supposed "highly bankrolled/highly knowlegeable" contacts he and others paint him as having, don't exist in any format other than being nothing but degenerate gamblers like him, and obviously they're all like you and have zero knowledge of Tiffany products.

Wise up.

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Yep, and after all the trash talking for years you did to them Shirley's family rolled out the red carpet for you? Told you everything? You betcha, Robocchio. And you were snooping around online looking for their divorce papers? Proves your sick obsession with Bob Dancer. It just makes you sick that he continues to ignore you and your sick bullshit. What a psychotically sick SOB. What a baby. Grow up.

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What a dummy. You might as well scream out loud about how you know nothing about marriage, relationships, or break-ups.

We all know the despicable way Dancer abused Shirley. So obviously, her family took HER side and can't stand him since the divorce. And guess how they talk about him ever since. Make sense yet mickey, or don't your "street smarts" get that?

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We all know the despicable way you treated Bob and Shirley. But they forgave you and invited you in after all your years of publicly trashing them? You betcha, Robocchio. That nose is getting longer and longer.

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You just keep on proving that an education is needed before anyone, esp. bums, should be allowed to post anything on the internet.

I bumped into Shirley's family at the Edgewater twice in the not-too-distant past. She had not moved to Calif. as of less than a year ago. You blindly believe all the stories Dancer writes, simply because you spew the same type of lies in all of your by-gone tales. The divorce info? All available online. Give it a try.Or maybe you wont--imagine mickey finally having to suck in the facts.

As I said, a moron like you would never want to understand how and why an addicted problem gambler like axel would ever possibly need to peddle gift cards for a discount on a forum with so few participants. Wake up bozo! He knows he could never unload them at face value, and by golly gee....a gambler actually buying something decent for his wife, who he defaced here as unworthy of Tiffany by blaming her?

All those supposed "highly bankrolled/highly knowlegeable" contacts he and others paint him as having, don't exist in any format other than being nothing but degenerate gamblers like him, and obviously they're all like you and have zero knowledge of Tiffany products.

Wise up.

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Actually, Tiffany products are highly overrated. They are comprised of a lot of Chinese junk marked up +1000%. If you know a Tiffany employee you can already get 50% off anything they sell thru them. If they give you access to the discontinued product list for employees you can get stuff that sold for 100's for as little as $5. Don't let facts get in the way of your BS though Robocchio.

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All nonsense max. The #1 product line they have is special stones and jewelry. Look it up. That debunks your "Chinese junk" theory right there. I don't know any Tiffany employees, but even a cave man can smell you stepping up to the plate to try and save axel-face.

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Okay, let me try to translate Argentino's thought processes as a service for the poor sane saps who follow what he says.

Argentino is arguing that MaxPen is trying to "save axel-face" by saying that Tiffany products are "highly overrated" and "comprised of a lot of Chinese junk." Yes, it is true that axel is trying to sell gift cards for Tiffany products. So for the uninitiated, it may be real hard to fathom how denigrating Tiffany products is in service of someone trying to sell gift cards to buy those products. I had a hard time understanding it myself.

Then I realized that (1) the roads are jammed for the holidays, so RV driving is a bitch, and (2) perhaps logic has taken a back seat to imbibing.


Carry on.

You need to translate your own stuff first.

We aren't leaving the house until next Wed. Don't you have any leftovers? (or are you using Denny's Gift Cards?)

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Okay, let me try to translate Argentino's thought processes as a service for the poor sane saps who follow what he says.

Argentino is arguing that MaxPen is trying to "save axel-face" by saying that Tiffany products are "highly overrated" and "comprised of a lot of Chinese junk." Yes, it is true that axel is trying to sell gift cards for Tiffany products. So for the uninitiated, it may be real hard to fathom how denigrating Tiffany products is in service of someone trying to sell gift cards to buy those products. I had a hard time understanding it myself.

Then I realized that (1) the roads are jammed for the holidays, so RV driving is a bitch, and (2) perhaps logic has taken a back seat to imbibing.


Carry on.

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If AW has to come in here and post a thread in the Las Vegas Forum to sell Tiffany Gift Cards at a discount they must have nothing but Chinese Junk at a 95% markup.
I mean this AxelWolf, is the best! He gets all the free creams and lotions.
If those cards were worth anything he would of already sold them like hot cakes.
This Super Advantage Player is on this Forum selling these cards at a 40% discount which tells you that you should be buying them at an 80% discount.
AW doesn't just give things away and especially to the members on this forum which are mostly against him.
What is amazing is that Dan Druff approves AxelWolf selling his gift cards right here in the Las Vegas Forum.
He didn't even have to move it to some other topic or forum thread since it neatly fits in with the Las Vegas information.

If you sell a Tiffany Gift Card do you have to show the profit on your taxes at the end of the year?
What if you sold it for less than the value on the Gift Card?

I must of missed it where he was on WoV and DT selling Tiffany Gift Cards.
Since Christmas is rolling around the corner and AxelWolf is some highly respected AP with a multitude of friends you would think he would just give them away as gifts but of course Mammon rules the Heart.
Worst case scenario he can trade them for bottles of Captain Morgan.

Next Singer will be selling the Singer Five information at a discount as well but I am not buying till he at least ups it to the Singer Ten.

Whether Tiffany is quality or overpriced junk is immaterial here.

Some people may be planning upon shopping there anyway because their wife/gf/whatever wants Tiffany stuff.

In such a case, it's much better to buy these gift cards at a big discount.

I believe that's what Axel is going for here.

And yes, it's quite common to end up with gift cards as part of a casino promotion, and then try to unload them for cash if you don't have much use for them.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Whether Tiffany is quality or overpriced junk is immaterial here.

Some people may be planning upon shopping there anyway because their wife/gf/whatever wants Tiffany stuff.

In such a case, it's much better to buy these gift cards at a big discount.

I believe that's what Axel is going for here.

And yes, it's quite common to end up with gift cards as part of a casino promotion, and then try to unload them for cash if you don't have much use for them.

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+1

About 12 years ago when I was a news reporter I did a story about shopping at Tiffany for one of my Best Buys news specials. I reported on some FOUR HUNDRED Tiffany items priced at $50 or less.

Inflation has taken its toll. Tiffany no longer has a listing of items priced $50 or less but they do list items at $250 or less.

https://m.tiffany.com/gifts/gifts-250-under?tfr=1

Now to be honest you're still paying for the name. You can buy similar products for half the price.

Any reputable jeweler can sell you top tier jewelry for far less than what Tiffany charges. And that's reality.

You're paying for the name and in the case of diamonds you're paying for the guarantee. And for diamonds you are paying dearly for that guarantee.

I don't know about AxelWolf's gift cards. There are too many warnings on the web about the risks. Basic risk: what if they get lost in the mail? What if the PIN has been revealed? Who knows how they were handled by the casino.

Several years ago Total Rewards had one hell of a problem with Shell gas cards from the Great Gift Wrap Up. Caesars forgot to activate the cards and replacement cards had to be sent out. If there's a problem with AxelWolf's cards where are the replacement cards going to be sent? If I bought them from AxelWolf, Tiffany certainly wouldn't send replacement cards to me.

By the way, with those Shell cards I gave them out as gifts and Shell sent me the replacement cards and then I had to give them out all over again.

On another subject, WTF is Dan Druff playing a promotion for SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS of Zappos Shoes gift cards? Was he dating Imelda Marcos at the time?

Dan that is so out of character for you, Mr. Cheap. You're the guy who times out his Seven Stars play over two years to maximize your Seven Stars benefits. You stop dead in your tracks at 150,000 points yet you played how many dollars for Zappos cards?

For a guy who can't get a casino host because he doesn't play enough, and for a guy who had trouble booking rooms because he doesn't play enough, and for a guy who gets ignored by the casino and couldn't get Gatorade sent up to his room because he doesn't play enough (and the casino made him sick), you played how much for SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS of Zappos cards?

We've all gotten gift card offers and the basic show up gift card amount is around $300.

Please tell me your figure of SIX THOUSAND DOLLARS was a mistake or that's the day you wanted to blow off the winnings from a Megabucks jackpot.