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It's a shame that "Singer" fills these pages with disgusting lies and stupidly hurtful comments.

For example, what he posted above made me think of my late wife's brother, who served in the Navy aboard a nuclear sub. Tough assignments -- nobody in your family can know where you are. Everything has to be completely, utterly secret, and your assignments last months.

Of course, when I think of Patrick's assignments, I also remember that "Singer" claims Patrick's sister killed herself. Publicly posted that his sister killed herself, which is not only not true, it's absolutely disgusting. Real people affected by "Singer's" lies, whether it's Patrick's sister or Jean and Brad Scott.

When you go on record with despicable comments, it's hard to disavow yourself from them.

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I don't choose to think the worst about them. I've written many times about how much I respect what Brad told me about his naval career and talked to him about my father's WWII 4 years' service in a submarine. I've also said how impressed I was with how Jean--as an English teacher--was able to succeed as she has as a gambling industry marketeer.

Jean can say anything she wants about selling multiple properties in LV and nobody is going to fact check any of it. Why not? Because she has never been a polarizing or controversial individual in order to protect her reputation and brand. I simply don't believe that take, because of her having to sell that Indiana home a year after telling me she never would.

Here's something I am aware of but you couldn't be. Yes, people like to be nearby their family. I agree. But....when you get old, the LAST thing you want to do if at all possible, is burden or ask to burden your children and/or grandchildren with home care responsibilities IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO MOVE INTO A NEARBY NURSING HOME where they are easily accessible, or a nursing home anywhere!

This is all pretty simple to me. How do you explain 20+ years of constantly beating and raping the slot clubs of the same casinos over andover andover again, while ALWAYS being welcome. Especially at their favorite place: Gold Coast? Her story might be one of a feel-good nature when tossing the softball questions, but I take a few issues and analyze them from the inside out. As much as I respect Brad and firmly believe Jean to be a truly good person, It just doesn't pass the sniff test.

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Over the past several years Jean wrote a lot about the constant erosion of slot club benefits and vp edges. I think it got to the point it just wasn't worth it to them anymore. I know from my own experience that big edges weren't always constantly there, they popped up from time to time and I pounced. A lot of casinos in southern Nevada. Which one is going to put on the juicy promotion this time? That's what the mail box was for. The competition between the casinos was advantageous to some players.

But video poker has been fading away for years. It finally reached a point where, between that and their old age, the finally bailed out. But you don't have to go broke to bail out. You just quit when the edge is not there anymore. Admittedly, they worked smaller edges than I would have.

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Originally Posted by redietz

It's a shame that "Singer" fills these pages with disgusting lies and stupidly hurtful comments.

For example, what he posted above made me think of my late wife's brother, who served in the Navy aboard a nuclear sub. Tough assignments -- nobody in your family can know where you are. Everything has to be completely, utterly secret, and your assignments last months.

Of course, when I think of Patrick's assignments, I also remember that "Singer" claims Patrick's sister killed herself. Publicly posted that his sister killed herself, which is not only not true, it's absolutely disgusting. Real people affected by "Singer's" lies, whether it's Patrick's sister or Jean and Brad Scott.

When you go on record with despicable comments, it's hard to disavow yourself from them.

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What a pansyass. If you're so "hurt" by what I say, grow a pair. Anyone affected by what anybody else says on a forum about someone completely unknown and unimportant to them, is more than weird. Tough love. Nobody cares!

In response to me redeitz wrote:

"Are you suggesting that I'm selling something?

So BoSox, if you were implying that I was selling something"

In my first reply I said:

"redeitz, NO I am not suggesting or implying that you are selling anything."

However, I re-thought this through and changed my opinion on the matter. Mr. Wise Guy, I think that you are in fact advertising and selling yourself for free, in hope of possibly having big name recognition down the road. Apparently, you wont be happy until one day when you will be recognized by everyone when you are walking down the street.

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Originally Posted by redietz

It's a shame that "Singer" fills these pages with disgusting lies and stupidly hurtful comments.

For example, what he posted above made me think of my late wife's brother, who served in the Navy aboard a nuclear sub. Tough assignments -- nobody in your family can know where you are. Everything has to be completely, utterly secret, and your assignments last months.

Of course, when I think of Patrick's assignments, I also remember that "Singer" claims Patrick's sister killed herself. Publicly posted that his sister killed herself, which is not only not true, it's absolutely disgusting. Real people affected by "Singer's" lies, whether it's Patrick's sister or Jean and Brad Scott.

When you go on record with despicable comments, it's hard to disavow yourself from them.

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What a pansyass. If you're so "hurt" by what I say, grow a pair. Anyone affected by what anybody else says on a forum about someone completely unknown and unimportant to them, is more than weird. Tough love. Nobody cares!

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Not true what you are saying. In fact, a mother and father who JUST lost their daughter to suicide and were expressing grief over their tragic loss was coldly told by an online Troll,"I'm glad your Daughter is dead by suicide. You guys should also off yourselves as well!" Luckily the Troll was found out, jailed, and then banned from internet devices for a long while IIRC. You don't write stuff like that to griecing parents.

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Here's something I am aware of but you couldn't be. Yes, people like to be nearby their family. I agree. But....when you get old, the LAST thing you want to do if at all possible, is burden or ask to burden your children and/or grandchildren with home care responsibilities IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO MOVE INTO A NEARBY NURSING HOME where they are easily accessible, or a nursing home anywhere!.

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I couldn't be aware of what? It's not a matter of whether you can afford nursing home care or not. An elderly person who has SS as their only income qualifies for nursing home care. I dont' know if SS or the state or the feds pay for it but all elderly low income people in need of it get nursing home care.

You've jumped to a lot of conclusions. They rented an apartment near her kids and grandkids. Jean is still in good shape. It's Brad thats down. But still not disabled enough for a nursing home. But when the times comes I'm sure we will be seeing him enter a nursing home. Rob, they are not there to burden her kids, they are there to be near their kids. I just dont' know where you come up with this stuff.

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Here's something I am aware of but you couldn't be. Yes, people like to be nearby their family. I agree. But....when you get old, the LAST thing you want to do if at all possible, is burden or ask to burden your children and/or grandchildren with home care responsibilities IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO MOVE INTO A NEARBY NURSING HOME where they are easily accessible, or a nursing home anywhere!.

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I couldn't be aware of what? It's not a matter of whether you can afford nursing home care or not. An elderly person who has SS as their only income qualifies for nursing home care. I dont' know if SS or the state or the feds pay for it but all elderly low income people in need of it get nursing home care.

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Mickey, now you just went and ruined Rob's fantasy life's dream. Deep down he knows the truth that he was never a real avantage player in gaming like you are, but Rob consoled his secret jealosy of you with the thought that at least in his mind he is rich compared to you. One day he would get his revenge by living in a fancy assisted living facility while thinking that you would be living in some abandoned boxcar somewhere.

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Here's something I am aware of but you couldn't be. Yes, people like to be nearby their family. I agree. But....when you get old, the LAST thing you want to do if at all possible, is burden or ask to burden your children and/or grandchildren with home care responsibilities IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO MOVE INTO A NEARBY NURSING HOME where they are easily accessible, or a nursing home anywhere!.

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I couldn't be aware of what? It's not a matter of whether you can afford nursing home care or not. An elderly person who has SS as their only income qualifies for nursing home care. I dont' know if SS or the state or the feds pay for it but all elderly low income people in need of it get nursing home care.

You've jumped to a lot of conclusions. They rented an apartment near her kids and grandkids. Jean is still in good shape. It's Brad thats down. But still not disabled enough for a nursing home. But when the times comes I'm sure we will be seeing him enter a nursing home. Rob, they are not there to burden her kids, they are there to be near their kids. I just dont' know where you come up with this stuff.

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I wasn't talking about whether anyone can afford nursing home care or not. It was wholly about why an elderly couple or person would NEVER choose to become a burden (in care, not money) such as that upon their children or grandchildren. People without children could never truly, clearly see that.

Yes, some old people sometimes move near their families as they decline, esp. when more help and assistance is needed. Whether Jean is in poor health or not is something neither you nor I know. What's curious is why they waited this long to make such a move if it wasn't for various assistance reasons. I'm not buying the slowly diminishing edges theory either. I've watched them gamble, feverishly, and they can't even stop when they want to talk to you.

Either way, it's all opinion and no one's gonna track any of it down. I simply believe that I understand them better than you, for multiple reasons.

Nice Jean Scott tribute piece redietz. I think people still underestimate how much others learned from her.















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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Here's something I am aware of but you couldn't be. Yes, people like to be nearby their family. I agree. But....when you get old, the LAST thing you want to do if at all possible, is burden or ask to burden your children and/or grandchildren with home care responsibilities IF YOU CAN AFFORD TO MOVE INTO A NEARBY NURSING HOME where they are easily accessible, or a nursing home anywhere!.

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I couldn't be aware of what? It's not a matter of whether you can afford nursing home care or not. An elderly person who has SS as their only income qualifies for nursing home care. I dont' know if SS or the state or the feds pay for it but all elderly low income people in need of it get nursing home care.

You've jumped to a lot of conclusions. They rented an apartment near her kids and grandkids. Jean is still in good shape. It's Brad thats down. But still not disabled enough for a nursing home. But when the times comes I'm sure we will be seeing him enter a nursing home. Rob, they are not there to burden her kids, they are there to be near their kids. I just dont' know where you come up with this stuff.

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I wasn't talking about whether anyone can afford nursing home care or not. It was wholly about why an elderly couple or person would NEVER choose to become a burden (in care, not money) such as that upon their children or grandchildren. People without children could never truly, clearly see that.

Yes, some old people sometimes move near their families as they decline, esp. when more help and assistance is needed. Whether Jean is in poor health or not is something neither you nor I know. What's curious is why they waited this long to make such a move if it wasn't for various assistance reasons. I'm not buying the slowly diminishing edges theory either. I've watched them gamble, feverishly, and they can't even stop when they want to talk to you.

Either way, it's all opinion and no one's gonna track any of it down. I simply believe that I understand them better than you, for multiple reasons.

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Through the years they progressed from single line quarter play all the way up to 100 line quarter plays. And if you believe they did it with pension money and book sales then I have some property east of Miami you are surely interested in. Ask anyon ewith experience, including yourself. There's no money in video poker products. No real money anyway.

Didn't you say you got your place back east to be near your daughter. Why do you want to burden your daughter like that? See. That's how stupid it is. I know you aren't burdening your daughter. But it's just how easy it is to make an unfounded accusation.

All that help and assistance you think they need so badly. It's all covered by medicare. Ever heard of Personal Care Assistants that go to the homes of the elderly disabled? Who do you think pays them?

You just like to think the worst of some people. You don't understand Jean and Brad better than I do. And no you don't have multiple reasons. You are just continuing your old habit of talking trash about people without any proof. You are obsessed with them. You've been trashing them for years. Why? Why is that so important to you. Don't you have anything more constructive to do.

Rob, you must live somewhere close to family or will in the future. Should we assume that you are or will be a burden on them?

Pension and gambling products money so they could progress to higher limits? C'mon man. Think about it. An old couple with some serious health problems RENTING AN APT. nearby relatives? After "selling multipleLV properties"?? Here's a flash mickey: old people--ESPECIALLY those with cash--DO NOT WANT TO AND WILL NOT LIVE IN AN APT. IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER PURCHASE OPTION. Nuff said.

Yes, we got a place in eastern SD for part of the summer and fall....hundreds of miles from where my family is in St. Paul.

It may seem that I'm thinking the worst for Jean but I'm not. You're far off base because you're not able to see anything from a parent/grandparent perspective and I am. Obviously. That's why I can see this much clearer than you. You automatically think that anyone who moves to LV and claims they're advantage players while knowing the slick sides of slot club benefits, is set forlife. Well they blew it all there and they're now doing whatever they can to survive. They're lucky they have family to help them as they slip into old age. You want them to have somehow inexplicably constantly beaten casinos for cash and benefits. You should know that doesn't make sense, especially for a public figure who writes about the conquests non-stop.

Jean and Brad are EXACTLY what I've always written about them: decent people who lose most years while she publicly explains being a yearly winner. How? By self-overvaluating all the comps and benefits obtained from playing machines. Do you really believe she didn't do everything in her power to be able to stay there and keep playing?

They had a good run. But Vegas caught up with them.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Pension and gambling products money so they could progress to higher limits? C'mon man. Think about it. An old couple with some serious health problems RENTING AN APT. nearby relatives? After "selling multipleLV properties"?? Here's a flash mickey: old people--ESPECIALLY those with cash--DO NOT WANT TO AND WILL NOT LIVE IN AN APT. IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER PURCHASE OPTION. Nuff said.

Yes, we got a place in eastern SD for part of the summer and fall....hundreds of miles from where my family is in St. Paul.

It may seem that I'm thinking the worst for Jean but I'm not. You're far off base because you're not able to see anything from a parent/grandparent perspective and I am. Obviously. That's why I can see this much clearer than you. You automatically think that anyone who moves to LV and claims they're advantage players while knowing the slick sides of slot club benefits, is set forlife. Well they blew it all there and they're now doing whatever they can to survive. They're lucky they have family to help them as they slip into old age. You want them to have somehow inexplicably constantly beaten casinos for cash and benefits. You should know that doesn't make sense, especially for a public figure who writes about the conquests non-stop.

Jean and Brad are EXACTLY what I've always written about them: decent people who lose most years while she publicly explains being a yearly winner. How? By self-overvaluating all the comps and benefits obtained from playing machines. Do you really believe she didn't do everything in her power to be able to stay there and keep playing?

They had a good run. But Vegas caught up with them.

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I know very little about Jean and her husband. I never noticed her giving out too much sensitive information. I could be wrong, but it seems to me they were mostly playing VP with a low percentage very high volume. Her information was about basic video poker AP stuff that was great for beginners. I know books aren't normally worth a lot, however, didn't have a best-selling book? What type of income did that(is there a way to find that out?) and her website generate? I know they got $100,000 dealt Royal and shared a $500,000 slot tournament win. I occasionally still use her free frugal VP program(actually the free version of Wolf VP) , it's the only one I own. At the time it came out it had a shitload of great tools compared to what I was using at the time(VP TUTOR) , it even generated a color coded strategy chart you could print out, that was simply amazing to me at the time since I was making my own color coded strategy cards from scratch plugging in hand after hand, on games I needed to. I was able to condense them down significantly sine I don't need a strategy card to tell me the obvious hands. That program is certainly out of date at this point, but, I refuse to buy a program and support the people that spread VP AP information.

Whatever the case, good on them, they seem to have done well, they were doing what they loved while making money and enjoying the good life. Isn't the entire goal no matter what you're doing... just to be happy and enjoy life?

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Pension and gambling products money so they could progress to higher limits? C'mon man. Think about it. An old couple with some serious health problems RENTING AN APT. nearby relatives? After "selling multipleLV properties"?? Here's a flash mickey: old people--ESPECIALLY those with cash--DO NOT WANT TO AND WILL NOT LIVE IN AN APT. IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER PURCHASE OPTION. Nuff said.

Yes, we got a place in eastern SD for part of the summer and fall....hundreds of miles from where my family is in St. Paul.

It may seem that I'm thinking the worst for Jean but I'm not. You're far off base because you're not able to see anything from a parent/grandparent perspective and I am. Obviously. That's why I can see this much clearer than you. You automatically think that anyone who moves to LV and claims they're advantage players while knowing the slick sides of slot club benefits, is set forlife. Well they blew it all there and they're now doing whatever they can to survive. They're lucky they have family to help them as they slip into old age. You want them to have somehow inexplicably constantly beaten casinos for cash and benefits. You should know that doesn't make sense, especially for a public figure who writes about the conquests non-stop.

Jean and Brad are EXACTLY what I've always written about them: decent people who lose most years while she publicly explains being a yearly winner. How? By self-overvaluating all the comps and benefits obtained from playing machines. Do you really believe she didn't do everything in her power to be able to stay there and keep playing?

They had a good run. But Vegas caught up with them.

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I will continue to combat your campaign of disinformation on them. Your claims are unfounded and totally outrageous. I challenge you to provide proof of any of your claims. You can't. All you have is speculation and innuendo. The real shame here is you spending your final days bashing these people. It's really sad and says more about you than them.

Thousands of people know who Jean and Brad are. You are the only one making scurrilous claims about them.

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Pension and gambling products money so they could progress to higher limits? C'mon man. Think about it. An old couple with some serious health problems RENTING AN APT. nearby relatives? After "selling multipleLV properties"?? Here's a flash mickey: old people--ESPECIALLY those with cash--DO NOT WANT TO AND WILL NOT LIVE IN AN APT. IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER PURCHASE OPTION. Nuff said.

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Right here. You took a piece of 2nd hand information and turned it into what you wanted to turned it into. I said they rented an apartment. Do I know they rented an apartment. No. She actually wrote something like they "live close to her kids and grand kids." For all I know they bought a house or condo. But you took this piece of 2nd hand information and blew it into Jean and Brad are broke. You are the one that is off base.

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Pension and gambling products money so they could progress to higher limits? C'mon man. Think about it. An old couple with some serious health problems RENTING AN APT. nearby relatives? After "selling multipleLV properties"?? Here's a flash mickey: old people--ESPECIALLY those with cash--DO NOT WANT TO AND WILL NOT LIVE IN AN APT. IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER PURCHASE OPTION. Nuff said.

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Right here. You took a piece of 2nd hand information and turned it into what you wanted to turned it into. I said they rented an apartment. Do I know they rented an apartment. No. She actually wrote something like they "live close to her kids and grand kids." For all I know they bought a house or condo. But you took this piece of 2nd hand information and blew it into Jean and Brad are broke. You are the one that is off base.

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But even if it is an apartment so what? Your speculation about what they can and can't afford is weak. You know nothing. You just bash. The big question is why? Why is it so important to you that they have to be broke. What would happen if you found out different? Would your whole world would fall apart.

You must have missed the memo: speculation and innuendo, disagreement and arguing, name-calling and bad-mouthing, lies and disinformation, and disingenuous denials....these things make up the baseline of a gambling forum. And nobody proves anything on forums even if they could. You should know that. Comments are all opinion-based and derived from common sense interpretations based on reading and conversational experiences...aka, life experience. What makes easy sense to one person may seem very unlikely to another. It's what makes us who we are. Why do you think the very reasonable and caring platform President Trump lays out almost unanimously hits dense layers when it gets to the democrats?

Finally, I'd never snoop into Jean's life to find out what's really going on. I'm happy and sure about my assessment and how I arrived at it, and I wish them nothing but a comfortable remainder of their days.

MY final days?? Yikes!

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Pension and gambling products money so they could progress to higher limits? C'mon man. Think about it. An old couple with some serious health problems RENTING AN APT. nearby relatives? After "selling multipleLV properties"?? Here's a flash mickey: old people--ESPECIALLY those with cash--DO NOT WANT TO AND WILL NOT LIVE IN AN APT. IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER PURCHASE OPTION. Nuff said.

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Right here. You took a piece of 2nd hand information and turned it into what you wanted to turned it into. I said they rented an apartment. Do I know they rented an apartment. No. She actually wrote something like they "live close to her kids and grand kids." For all I know they bought a house or condo. But you took this piece of 2nd hand information and blew it into Jean and Brad are broke. You are the one that is off base.

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But even if it is an apartment so what? Your speculation about what they can and can't afford is weak. You know nothing. You just bash. The big question is why? Why is it so important to you that they have to be broke. What would happen if you found out different? Would your whole world would fall apart.

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Don't care about that stuff. My point was, old folks--esp. if one or both has health issues--BY AND LARGE want nothing to do with the noise and busy nature of being around so many others at that time in their lives. And I don't even know where or how they live. I'm just going by what YOU said.

Again, simple common sense.

Rob, are you seriously claiming it is unusual for people to want to move closer to their kids later in life?

It's practically a cliche you hear from people contemplating their lives after retirement: "I want to move to X to be closer to my children and grandchildren".

I wonder if you're projecting some peculiarity of your own nature on to others.

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You must have missed the memo: speculation and innuendo, disagreement and arguing, name-calling and bad-mouthing, lies and disinformation, and disingenuous denials....these things make up the baseline of a gambling forum. And nobody proves anything on forums even if they could. You should know that. Comments are all opinion-based and derived from common sense interpretations based on reading and conversational experiences...aka, life experience. What makes easy sense to one person may seem very unlikely to another. It's what makes us who we are. Why do you think the very reasonable and caring platform President Trump lays out almost unanimously hits dense layers when it gets to the democrats?

Finally, I'd never snoop into Jean's life to find out what's really going on. I'm happy and sure about my assessment and how I arrived at it, and I wish them nothing but a comfortable remainder of their days.

MY final days?? Yikes!

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No, I didn't miss the memo. You've made it plain and clear for years here that you will write any derogatory remark about anyone and you don't let the truth get in the way. You are the only one that writes the stuff about Jean that you do.

Brad is 87 years old and now has difficulty getting around but quit going to the casinos and playing video poker because he went broke? If he hadn't went broke he'd still be there banging away until he's a 100 years old? Being wheeled into the casino in a hospital bed? Yep, it has to be according to Rob. IT CERTAINLY COULDN'T BE BECAUSE HE'S TO OLD TO GET AROUND ANYMORE, right, Rob? Is that what "common sense" tells you?

BTW, I got a call from my Nurse Practitioner's office today. They wanted me to update them on any issues I may be having two days before my appointment. And they also asked me "Do you need any assistance around the house?" I've never brought this up to them. SS is paying my medical bills. So they were offering me a Personal Care Assistant free of charge, at least to me. I'm sure SS pays for it.

Hey, Rob. I told them no! I dont' need a PCA. I'm gonna make my family do it!! HAHAHAHA! Yeah, right. Instead of using a PCA, which Jean and Brad clearly qualify for, they make their family do it. That makes some damn good common sense there, right?