Singer at the Bat

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Originally Posted by Vegas_lover

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by redietz

My apologies if I overestimated your gambling volume.

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Is a player with a large gambling volume presumed to have accumulated large W2Gs?

I've read of players whose average winnings are nearly $100K each year, without generating any W2Gs.

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And as always another deflection: no answers only questions. Not one critical note about Singer's claims. You're as transparent as a jellyfish. A real tough guy behind the keyboard who impresses nobody…..

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LOL

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Originally Posted by Vegas_lover

And as always another deflection: no answers only questions.

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What question did the ditz ask that I was to answer?

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by Vegas_lover

And as always another deflection: no answers only questions.

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What question did the ditz ask that I was to answer?

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Thank you for proving my point.....again! Nobody on this forum is that slow. Everybody sees exactly what you've been doing for years. Bullshit artist, that's what you are!

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Originally Posted by Vegas_lover

Everybody sees exactly what you've been doing for years.

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If I'm expected to provide answers, then somebody needs to ask the questions.

The ditz didn't ask any questions after he wrote this...

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Originally Posted by redietz

I'm going to open the floor to blackhole, coach belly, and Mr. Mendelson

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There's not even a question mark in the entire post (#75).

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Originally Posted by Vegas_lover

Nobody on this forum is that slow.

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You seem pretty slow. You took almost 4 years between posts.

When did they let you out?

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Originally Posted by coach belly

If I'm expected to provide answers, then somebody needs to ask the questions.

The ditz didn't ask any questions after he wrote this...



There's not even a question mark in the entire post (#75).

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Originally Posted by Vegas_lover

Nobody on this forum is that slow.

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You seem pretty slow. You took almost 4 years between posts.

When did they let you out?

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You confuse patient with slow. I've watched your stupid shit for all those years and it's time to call a spade a spade. You, Blackhole and Singer are a complete waste of oxygen and as far as this forum is concerned you're a complete waste of bandwith. How's that for an answer for you big boy?

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Originally Posted by redietz

Before commenting further, I'm going to open the floor to blackhole, coach belly, and Mr. Mendelson, all of whom have presumably had to zero out large W2Gs. Mr. Mendelson appears to follow the letter of the law, so I'm assuming he does what Jean Scott, Bob Dancer, and the IRS guidelines suggest when it comes to gambling and federal taxes.

I'll give these folks a crack at theorizing why Rob studiously avoids any mention of proof of losses.

Meanwhile, mickeycrimm pointed out another major issue with the myth. Rob, after years of losing, basically took a 60% pay cut or thereabouts to pursue his "professional video poker" career. Right out of the shoot, more or less. After years of losing. Very ballsy. Or insane. Or a myth. You know, my late wife took a 30% pay cut from the military to teach at a university, and 30% ain't no small thing. I honestly do not know anyone else who took that kind of pay cut, except Rob, who evidently took a much larger pay cut "on spec."

While that may be hard to understand, let's get back to the zeroing out of the W2Gs and the IRS protocols for doing that. I'm sure blackhole, coach belly, and Mr. Mendelson understand some of the problems with Rob's stories.

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It'll be my pleasure to help redietz and mickey look like dumb & dumber. :)

First, mickey has no concept of what it means to earn money working, and he's a million miles away from understanding executive wage packages. And that's precisely why he automatically thinks someone like me losing about $45k/yr. for 6 years is a "really big amount". Again, the "little people" point personified.

Now the supposed "pay cut" stab by redietz. To him, I took a "cut" to play vp professionally. What a ditz! Even though I've written a thousand times that I had already set up our retirement prior to quitting work, it doesn't fit his agenda because he's jealous (first of all, because my wife didn't kill herself like his apparently did). Anyone who takes on professional gambling without first securing their future is an idiot. In other words, if I had lost my $171,600 gambling bankroll instead of winning, we'd still be living exactly the same as we are today. I know these are big numbers to AP's, but that only goes to prove why my recent $200k win has been such an arrow thru your broken hearts.

Finally, I'll address redietz and his continuing nonsense about getting "university math professors" to comment on the viability of my claim of winning $984k over 10 years on mostly 99% games. Again, what a dunce. Any educated person with a math background would tell everyone, without hesitation, that playing slightly -EV games over ANY amount of time can indeed, mathematically, produce a winner, just as anyone playing slightly +EV games can produce a loser. And why you don't understand that beyond not wanting it to be factual, is because you don't understand mathematical distribution. The only part that would be true is if you added "it's more probable to lose playing slightly negative games" or "it's more probable to win playing slightly positive games". But because you don't want that to be true, you stick with your more convenient lie. And you advertise yourself as someone who comprehends gambling math?

Wise up.

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Originally Posted by Vegas_lover

I've watched your stupid shit for all those years

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...but the straight jacket prevented you from posting for all those years?

Did they force you to watch?

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by Vegas_lover

I've watched your stupid shit for all those years

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...but the straight jacket prevented you from posting for all those years?

Did they force you to watch?

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Nice try but rather lame…..jellyfish

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Originally Posted by Vegas_lover

You confuse patient with slow. I've watched your stupid shit for all those years and it's time to call a spade a spade. You, Blackhole and Singer are a complete waste of oxygen and as far as this forum is concerned you're a complete waste of bandwith. How's that for an answer for you big boy?

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Why don'y you just crawl back into the closet you've been hiding in for the last four years. It's well known by most that you're a cock-sucking queer. What made you come back out of the closet after so much time.

Do you feel it's time to come to the defense of the other cock-sucker Kewlj?

Take a walk you fucking ass licking queer. No one here respects your queer bullshit.

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Originally Posted by blackhole

It's well known by most that you're a cock-sucking queer. What made you come back out of the closet after so much time.

Do you feel it's time to come to the defense of the other cock-sucker Kewlj?

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Whahaha funny old fuck. I'm not gay and unlike you I'm not a sad prejudice useless has been. Did the jellyfish pm you to please come and help him because he was about ready to start crying? Bunch of clowns.

Kewlj, Redietz, Mickey, Keytone, RS and a number of others could suffer severe strokes and still make more sense than you on your brightest day.

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Originally Posted by Vegas_lover

I'm not gay

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It's 2019 meat packer. That closet crap is oh so over. It's okay to fly your colors proudly today.

I heard you could suck a cock, with one or two of your fingers in your ass while AP'ing off shore online casino bonuses all at the same time. Talk about advantage play....

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by redietz

Before commenting further, I'm going to open the floor to blackhole, coach belly, and Mr. Mendelson, all of whom have presumably had to zero out large W2Gs. Mr. Mendelson appears to follow the letter of the law, so I'm assuming he does what Jean Scott, Bob Dancer, and the IRS guidelines suggest when it comes to gambling and federal taxes.

I'll give these folks a crack at theorizing why Rob studiously avoids any mention of proof of losses.

Meanwhile, mickeycrimm pointed out another major issue with the myth. Rob, after years of losing, basically took a 60% pay cut or thereabouts to pursue his "professional video poker" career. Right out of the shoot, more or less. After years of losing. Very ballsy. Or insane. Or a myth. You know, my late wife took a 30% pay cut from the military to teach at a university, and 30% ain't no small thing. I honestly do not know anyone else who took that kind of pay cut, except Rob, who evidently took a much larger pay cut "on spec."

While that may be hard to understand, let's get back to the zeroing out of the W2Gs and the IRS protocols for doing that. I'm sure blackhole, coach belly, and Mr. Mendelson understand some of the problems with Rob's stories.

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Now the supposed "pay cut" stab by redietz. To him, I took a "cut" to play vp professionally. What a ditz! Even though I've written a thousand times that I had already set up our retirement prior to quitting work, it doesn't fit his agenda because he's jealous (first of all, because my wife didn't kill herself like his apparently did).

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Rob, that is not funny, please stop.

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Originally Posted by blackhole

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Originally Posted by Vegas_lover

I'm not gay

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It's 2019 meat packer. That closet crap is oh so over. It's okay to fly your colors proudly today.

I heard you could suck a cock, with one or two of your fingers in your ass while AP'ing off shore online casino bonuses all at the same time.

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Rather popular subject for you isn't it? Are you regretting the choices you made in life? There would be no reason for me to be a "closet case". I have nothing against people who are gay, lesbian or whatever. Another person's sexual preference does not affect me in any way. What is funny is this: you bring up the subject and continue to try and use it as some sort of insult towards me. You're failing miserable you fossil. The explicit way you talk about gay sex illustrates how much gay porn you probably watch every day. But hey, if that's what makes you happy...….Now to get things back on track. You've been acting like a complete sack of shit from the first moment you joined this forum and have contributed not one useful piece of info. The stupid gay bashing is just another example of that. To quote Nate Diaz: "I'm not surprised motherfuckers".....

When will you disappear again for another hopefully at least 4 more years?

Where have you been?

What made you start posting again after 4 years?

It's obvious I don't like guys who enjoy sucking cocks and getting fucked in the ass, but at least I tell the truth. Call me what you want, but I'm no phony and don't give one shit about being politically correct.

By the way tell us what your WOV handle is. They all know your gay there.

I hope when I’m that age and if I’m as bitter and miserable as this fuck, my family will just put me out of my misery

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Originally Posted by blackhole

When will you disappear again for another hopefully at least 4 more years?

Where have you been?

What made you start posting again after 4 years?

It's obvious I don't like guys who enjoy sucking cocks and getting fucked in the ass, but at least I tell the truth. Call me what you want, but I'm no phony and don't give one shit about being politically correct.

By the way tell us what your WOV handle is. They all know your gay there.

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You tell the truth? You wouldn't recognize the truth if it hit you in the face dipshit. I'm not a member at WOV nor have I ever been. "They all know I am gay over there"? They don't even know who I am dufus. Where have I been? I've been enjoying life and regularly reading here while enjoying some popcorn. The amount of stupid shit that gets posted here by you and a couple of others is priceless entertainment. You don't give a shit about being politically correct? Obviously, you don't give a shit about being a worthless human being either. You wear being a complete and utter asshole as a batch of honor. Be proud of yourself. Better make sure your relatives cremate you as soon as you die, I bet there would be a long line of people waiting to piss on your grave.

Funny how all you nitwits can't come up with anything authentic. It's always the same recycled comments. Just like the main stream media, the same prepared script for everyone to pound away on with a few different words thrown in for good measure.

At least you admit reading our posts enjoying the priceless entertainment. Not so good on this side reading the same recycled AP bullshit. Read nitwit Keystone's post above. He must have said the same exact thing 100 times over and over again. I'm suppose to believe that this drop out is some kind of mathematical Einstein beating casino games for decades?

You can't make this shit up.

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Originally Posted by blackhole

Funny how all you nitwits can't come up with anything authentic. It's always the same recycled comments. Just like the main stream media, the same prepared script for everyone to pound away on with a few different words thrown in for good measure.

At least you admit reading our posts enjoying the priceless entertainment. Not so good on this side reading the same recycled AP bullshit. Read nitwit Keystone's post above. He must have said the same exact thing 100 times over and over again. I'm suppose to believe that this drop out is some kind of mathematical Einstein beating casino games for decades?

You can't make this shit up.

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Find one post where I`ve claimed Im a mathematical genius or have beaten casino games for years...you can`t can you shitforbrains?....In actuality, I go to Vegas about 5-6 times a year..sometimes get lucky, most of the time I do not, but I`m willing to pay for that entertainment because I like and can afford it and I make my primary living other than gambling.....you on the other hand really need to admit you`ve sucked a few dicks in your day, maybe had a bad experience like a chipped tooth or gagging or something....c`mon just level with me and admit it....you might feel better without that albatross around your neck lol

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Originally Posted by Keystone

Find one post where I`ve claimed Im a mathematical genius or have beaten casino games for years...you can`t can you shitforbrains?....In actuality, I go to Vegas about 5-6 times a year..sometimes get lucky, most of the time I do not, but I`m willing to pay for that entertainment because I like and can afford it and I make my primary living other than gambling.....you on the other hand really need to admit you`ve sucked a few dicks in your day, maybe had a bad experience like a chipped tooth or gagging or something....c`mon just level with me and admit it....you might feel better without that albatross around your neck lol

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LOL I'm starting to appreciate what Rob means when he says how much he enjoys dealing with these bunch of fools.

You're also correct when saying you never claimed you were smart or beat casino games for decades. I apologize for not remembering you said that before. Sadly, it shows how much attention I pay to your nitwit posts.

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Originally Posted by blackhole

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Originally Posted by Keystone

Find one post where I`ve claimed Im a mathematical genius or have beaten casino games for years...you can`t can you shitforbrains?....In actuality, I go to Vegas about 5-6 times a year..sometimes get lucky, most of the time I do not, but I`m willing to pay for that entertainment because I like and can afford it and I make my primary living other than gambling.....you on the other hand really need to admit you`ve sucked a few dicks in your day, maybe had a bad experience like a chipped tooth or gagging or something....c`mon just level with me and admit it....you might feel better without that albatross around your neck lol

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LOL I'm starting to appreciate what Rob means when he says how much he enjoys dealing with these bunch of fools.

You're also correct when saying you never claimed you were smart or beat casino games for decades. I apologize for not remembering you said that before. Sadly, it shows how much attention I pay to your nitwit posts.

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C`mon dude, just level with me man, I won`t hold it against you....My problem with you is that you`re an idiot, not what you put in your mouth lol

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Originally Posted by redietz

Before commenting further, I'm going to open the floor to blackhole, coach belly, and Mr. Mendelson, all of whom have presumably had to zero out large W2Gs. Mr. Mendelson appears to follow the letter of the law, so I'm assuming he does what Jean Scott, Bob Dancer, and the IRS guidelines suggest when it comes to gambling and federal taxes.

I'll give these folks a crack at theorizing why Rob studiously avoids any mention of proof of losses.

Meanwhile, mickeycrimm pointed out another major issue with the myth. Rob, after years of losing, basically took a 60% pay cut or thereabouts to pursue his "professional video poker" career. Right out of the shoot, more or less. After years of losing. Very ballsy. Or insane. Or a myth. You know, my late wife took a 30% pay cut from the military to teach at a university, and 30% ain't no small thing. I honestly do not know anyone else who took that kind of pay cut, except Rob, who evidently took a much larger pay cut "on spec."

While that may be hard to understand, let's get back to the zeroing out of the W2Gs and the IRS protocols for doing that. I'm sure blackhole, coach belly, and Mr. Mendelson understand some of the problems with Rob's stories.

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It'll be my pleasure to help redietz and mickey look like dumb & dumber. :)


I'll briefly address Rob's misdirection and general idiocy here.

Whatever he's claiming I said in the post above, I never said. I frame things probabilistically. Even a blind squirrel and all that. It's a probabilistic world. Originally, I believed "Singer" regarding his claims of winning. What I took issue with was his insistence that his "systems" would work going forward. I have no idea if he won what he claims or not, and it's not terribly important to me. People win the lottery every day. I have no issues with lottery winners unless they claim they have systems that will win going forward.

Now here is why probability comes into play. Let's presume that "Singer" has followers and trainees, as he claims. Well, if he has a handful, or dozens, or hundreds, then very quickly we get into the realm of probability theory holding up that the aggregate of the people playing his "systems" are going to lose. There is no way to sidestep that. One can argue that this individual or that, playing a limited number of hands, can tiptoe through the raindrops of probability and wind up having won lifetime. There is no way an aggregate of trainees and fans can do the same. It defies probability. So if one lumps Jerry Logan and pahrump and slingshot and Argentino and presumably all of his trainees together, the systems are a loser in the aggregate. That is reality.

Now let's move on to the whole tax credibility issue. "Singer" still seems at a loss to address his proof of losses, which he'd need to have both for his "non-professional" filing years (to zero out his W2Gs) and his allegedly "professional" filing years, so as to claim expenses. He needs to have kept a daily log of his gambling. Probably a good idea to hang onto those casino win/loss statements also. Now the problem with those logs, if he actually kept them, is that they would reveal a different player profile than what he presents as his myth. Those logs would show number of hands played, hours played, and so on. He (and we, if he shared them) would know how many four of a kinds he hit in how many hands and other revealing details.

As to the casino win/loss statements. I don't know how all casinos work, but I can tell you that most offshores keep those records in perpetuity, both so they can profile and data-mine you. I see no reason the brick-and-mortars wouldn't hang onto those statements, also. Be that as it may, you can probably see where I'm going with this. In lieu of tax returns, "Singer" could have simply shared his amazing personal gambling logs and casino win/loss statements with Alan versus arci's tax returns. I can't see "Singer" tossing his personal logs into the fire after x number of years had passed, can you?

Anyway, as time has passed, I have become less convinced "Singer" was ahead what he has claimed. It doesn't much matter. What matters is that his systems' followers, as an aggregate, cannot win going forward as a group. That's all that matters. Do I really think he has a $1.5 million RV sitting in South Dakota that can never be driven anywhere? No, I don't, but that's not a big deal, and it's just my opinion. Do I think he hangs out in Laughlin because it's cheap? Yeah, but that's just my opinion.

What matters is the math.

As to "Singer's" psychotic viciousness -- I'd laugh about the crack regarding my wife "killing herself," but that would be inappropriate. My wife fought long and hard and bravely, and we tried to do the right thing by going both to NIH and UAB and participating in experimental treatments so as to pave a path. I realized that "Singer" saying something like that was in character, but still very odd. Why would someone even go there? And then I realized -- arci had always emphasized "Singer's" projecting.

Of course it hit me -- Rob's wife might have had some issues, probably with his gambling. Very deep, upsetting issues. And I'll leave it at that. There's probably a reason "Singer's" wife doesn't post here or anywhere. Probably a reason she looks so unhappy in the various photos he's posted.

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Originally Posted by redietz

Those logs would show number of hands played, hours played, and so on. He (and we, if he shared them) would know how many four of a kinds he hit in how many hands and other revealing details.

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Are those VP logs expected to show that much detail?...how many quads he hit?

LOL...I've never heard that before.

Are you sure you're not confusing our IRS rules with the tax rules on your home planet?

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Originally Posted by redietz

Those logs would show number of hands played, hours played, and so on. He (and we, if he shared them) would know how many four of a kinds he hit in how many hands and other revealing details.

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Are those VP logs expected to show that much detail?...how many quads he hit?

LOL...I've never heard that before.

Are you sure you're not confusing our IRS rules with the tax rules on your home planet?

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Dearest coach, any pithy questions for Rob? I'm sure you're frothing at the proverbial bit to quiz him. I mean, really, that's the best you could do with my post above? That's the best, most insightful, most meaningful question you came up with? Cmon, man, you can do better. I'll coach you, if that helps. I'll even "coach belly" you.

For example, here's a gotcha. Yes, since "Singer's" systems rely on particular hands, most of which are quads, to close a "session," I'd actually expect some notation regarding the reaching of session "win goals."

Now, not everyone keeps those kinds of notes. But not everyone is using a "Singer system" where particular hands at particular stakes close a "session" and end all playing for a day.

Now let's see, coach, are you capable of asking "Singer" a hard question? You know, a gotcha question? Or no, can't you do that?

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Originally Posted by redietz

That's the best, most insightful, most meaningful question you came up with?

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I'm asking them one at a time, ditz.

You typically answer zero at a time, so I never move on to the next question.

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Originally Posted by redietz

not everyone keeps those kinds of notes.

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Does anyone keep those kind of notes?

Number of hands played, hours played, how many four of a kinds he hit in how many hands and other revealing details?

Where did you come up with all that?

Other revealing details? Such as what?

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

playing slightly -EV games over ANY amount of time can indeed, mathematically, produce a winner, just as anyone playing slightly +EV games can produce a loser.
Wise up.

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So how do casinos make money then ?

redietz, A thoughtful post, here are a few thoughts back your way for what their worth.

"Originally, I believed "Singer" regarding his claims of winning".
This is a good place to start. You've been here a long time, you have a lot of history with "Singer" and his systems. I've just dropped in. I'm new. Am I allowed right here, right now to be where you once were? Doesn't seem like it.

" I have no idea if he won what he claims or not, and it's not terribly important to me."
Yours and my sentiment.

What I took issue with was his insistence that his "systems" would work going forward.
Excellent distinction. This is the debate.

"Let's presume that "Singer" has followers and trainees, as he claims"
I am certainly not a trainee, and I don't care for the word follower but I'm more than interested in what he has been saying. That's for sure. I don't use his system.
I think legitimate card counters in BJ are tops, but lets expand the pool of card counters to trainee's and wannabes who bungle the job, lose the count, get flustered and get tossed. The reality now is the system is a loser too. That is reality also.

[B]"Now let's move on to the whole tax credibility issue"
I get it.

"Anyway, as time has passed, I have become less convinced "Singer" was ahead what he has claimed. It doesn't much matter. What matters is that his systems' followers, as an aggregate, cannot win going forward as a group. That's all that matters"
Maybe he won it, but not ahead by it. Ok. Maybe the "followers" only really wants to improve their game. Stem the losses. Have better days. But that's not encouraged around here on a gambling forum. Strange.
"What matters is the math"
I followed a 3 digit daily number on paper. Interesting. Odds are 1 in a thousand. Every 1000 days, 2.7 years (in theory of course). It took over 9000 days to hit. Over 24 years. That's the bad side of the math. That's a long time to wait for justice. Someone on the board said wait till you watch a royal miss for 10 cycles. Yikes! That's a big hole to fall into.
""Singer's" psychotic viciousness"
This board has a tough crew. No doubt. If you're cruel he will be unnecessarily cruel.

I'll skip the actual arguments I've read kicking through the archives. Singer Verses the World.
You've read them also. You go your way I'll go mine. He makes so much sense to me.
I'm sorry if you've had real personal pain in your life. I've experience it. So many of us have. So many people have no knowledge of real pain.

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redietz, A thoughtful post, here are a few thoughts back your way for what their worth.

"Originally, I believed "Singer" regarding his claims of winning".
This is a good place to start. You've been here a long time, you have a lot of history with "Singer" and his systems. I've just dropped in. I'm new. Am I allowed right here, right now to be where you once were? Doesn't seem like it.

" I have no idea if he won what he claims or not, and it's not terribly important to me."
Yours and my sentiment.

What I took issue with was his insistence that his "systems" would work going forward.
Excellent distinction. This is the debate.

"Let's presume that "Singer" has followers and trainees, as he claims"
I am certainly not a trainee, and I don't care for the word follower but I'm more than interested in what he has been saying. That's for sure. I don't use his system.
I think legitimate card counters in BJ are tops, but lets expand the pool of card counters to trainee's and wannabes who bungle the job, lose the count, get flustered and get tossed. The reality now is the system is a loser too. That is reality also.

[B]"Now let's move on to the whole tax credibility issue"
I get it.

"Anyway, as time has passed, I have become less convinced "Singer" was ahead what he has claimed. It doesn't much matter. What matters is that his systems' followers, as an aggregate, cannot win going forward as a group. That's all that matters"
Maybe he won it, but not ahead by it. Ok. Maybe the "followers" only really wants to improve their game. Stem the losses. Have better days. But that's not encouraged around here on a gambling forum. Strange.
"What matters is the math"
I followed a 3 digit daily number on paper. Interesting. Odds are 1 in a thousand. Every 1000 days, 2.7 years (in theory of course). It took over 9000 days to hit. Over 24 years. That's the bad side of the math. That's a long time to wait for justice. Someone on the board said wait till you watch a royal miss for 10 cycles. Yikes! That's a big hole to fall into.
""Singer's" psychotic viciousness"
This board has a tough crew. No doubt. If you're cruel he will be unnecessarily cruel.

I'll skip the actual arguments I've read kicking through the archives. Singer Verses the World.
You've read them also. You go your way I'll go mine. He makes so much sense to me.
I'm sorry if you've had real personal pain in your life. I've experience it. So many of us have. So many people have no knowledge of real pain.

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NO one cares to try the strategies
When the machines don't follow the math- usually on multiplier or days needed to earn tier credits for giveaways- everyone calls it "variance". Certainly NO casino would have programming!! Ha!
The " idiot" has spoken.

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redietz, A thoughtful post, here are a few thoughts back your way for what their worth.

"Originally, I believed "Singer" regarding his claims of winning".
This is a good place to start. You've been here a long time, you have a lot of history with "Singer" and his systems. I've just dropped in. I'm new. Am I allowed right here, right now to be where you once were? Doesn't seem like it.

" I have no idea if he won what he claims or not, and it's not terribly important to me."
Yours and my sentiment.

What I took issue with was his insistence that his "systems" would work going forward.
Excellent distinction. This is the debate.

"Let's presume that "Singer" has followers and trainees, as he claims"
I am certainly not a trainee, and I don't care for the word follower but I'm more than interested in what he has been saying. That's for sure. I don't use his system.
I think legitimate card counters in BJ are tops, but lets expand the pool of card counters to trainee's and wannabes who bungle the job, lose the count, get flustered and get tossed. The reality now is the system is a loser too. That is reality also.

[B]"Now let's move on to the whole tax credibility issue"
I get it.

"Anyway, as time has passed, I have become less convinced "Singer" was ahead what he has claimed. It doesn't much matter. What matters is that his systems' followers, as an aggregate, cannot win going forward as a group. That's all that matters"
Maybe he won it, but not ahead by it. Ok. Maybe the "followers" only really wants to improve their game. Stem the losses. Have better days. But that's not encouraged around here on a gambling forum. Strange.
"What matters is the math"
I followed a 3 digit daily number on paper. Interesting. Odds are 1 in a thousand. Every 1000 days, 2.7 years (in theory of course). It took over 9000 days to hit. Over 24 years. That's the bad side of the math. That's a long time to wait for justice. Someone on the board said wait till you watch a royal miss for 10 cycles. Yikes! That's a big hole to fall into.
""Singer's" psychotic viciousness"
This board has a tough crew. No doubt. If you're cruel he will be unnecessarily cruel.

I'll skip the actual arguments I've read kicking through the archives. Singer Verses the World.
You've read them also. You go your way I'll go mine. He makes so much sense to me.
I'm sorry if you've had real personal pain in your life. I've experience it. So many of us have. So many people have no knowledge of real pain.

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Only two things I might add:
NO one cares to try the strategies
When the machines don't follow the math- usually on multiplier or days needed to earn tier credits for giveaways- everyone calls it "variance". Certainly NO casino would have programming!! Ha!
The " idiot" has spoken.

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You supply the money and I'll learn and play it. If you're that confident in his BS, this should be a no brainer.

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You supply the money and I'll learn and play it. If you're that confident in his BS, this should be a no brainer.

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Done. Where should I bring the money?

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You supply the money and I'll learn and play it. If you're that confident in his BS, this should be a no brainer.

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Done. Where should I bring the money?

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Yellow Belly, the wimp that thinks he's tough.

Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

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The outlook wasn't brilliant for the Martingales that day,
No evidence presented with but one forum left to play.
When Jerry Logan died at first, and Belly did the same
A sickly silence fell; AP's were all to blame.

A straggling few got up to go in deep despair; the rest
Clung to the luck which springs eternal in the Martingale breast.
They thought, if only Singer could send his tax returns,
That's all the proof they'd need to watch the AP's burn.

But logic preceded Singer, as did also a little thing called math.
The former irrefutable; the latter, well, it's math.
So upon the stricken Martingales grim melancholy sat.
There seemed no way Singer could overcome all that.

But Alan liked the concept, of quitting when ahead,
And math, the much despised, was put aside for dead.
When the forum dust had settled, and they saw what had occurred,
The rep of Martingales lay with tax returns interred.

From five thousand keyboards and more there rose a lusty yell.
It rumbled through Best Buys; it sent WOV to hell.
It sped across the globe and recoiled in every flat,
For Singer, mighty Singer, would get a whack at that.

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Oldie but goodie

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Ten thousand screens were on him as he waxed so eloquent,
Ten thousand ears listened to his Martingale fervent.
Then while the writhing arci clenched his taxes to his hip
Defiance gleaned in Singer's eye, a sneering "get a grip."

And now the tax-filled envelopes came hurtling through the mail,
Singer stood watching them, hoping for a fail.
Photos of the envelopes the audience had been fed.
"That ain't the deal," said Singer. "Strike One," the umpire said.

With a smile of Christian charity, great Singer's visage shone.
He fueled the rising tumult, but bade the game go on.
He signaled thus to arci that the taxes were askew.
Ignoring all his backers' pleas, and the umpire said, "Strike two."

"Fraud" cried the maddened thousands, but Alan told them to hush.
No claims of illegality, even if deductions were all mush.
Singer's face grew stern and cold, they saw his cred begin to strain,
And they knew that Singer's taxes would clearly all explain.

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The sneer is gone from Singer's lip; his fingers typing hate,
He insults recently departed, and says it's all just fate.
And now arci sends more taxes, and Alan opens them so slow.
And now the air is shattered by Rob's claims of being pro.

Oh, somewhere in another forum, the sun is shining bright.
Jerry Logan's playing somewhere, and Belly's feeling quite alright.
And somewhere Martingales are laughing, and somewhere Rob has clout.
But there is no joy at Best Buys -- mighty Singer has struck out.

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Dietz takes bow.

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You know, when I read the next quote, earlier today, and, then, looked at your post count, my first thought was, well, this guy seems to be plateauing at 6,666 posts. No, I'm not a numerologist - they scoffed at me, and my "numbers" over there - but I do work with numbers, and ideas. Such are always floating around in my head. Anyway, well, I thought this was hardly worth mentioning, at the time, until I got home, and, then, tried it out.

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Sorry, man. Consider it a guest appearance. I post only to point out egregious stupid. I was actually hoping Rob would have put together something more convincing. It's disappointing.

As I mentioned, I could do a better job "selling my Lamborghini with my man-whoring money" than Rob did with his "Newell via double-up bug."

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Feast your eyes on this baby. I mean, I don't know how I do it, usually, on the first try, but, damn.


Shut it down, Redietz, at post six thousand, six hundred sixty-six. --->

Auto industry in the united states
Prostitution in the United States

... in the first two lines.

https://anagram-solver.net/shut%20it...x?partial=true


What the fuck are the odds? Couldn't do this if I tried.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRwn2DeXhLs

It's amazing how much Singer is permanently embedded in some people's heads on this forum.

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It's amazing how much Singer is permanently embedded in some people's heads on this forum.

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Not surprising.

Try gazing at a woman with a flaming red boil on the tip of her nose without your eye returning to that marring defect.

Same thing here.

On a gambling forum, Singer barely registers. Too many other warts and boils. Hehehe.

Here's, once again, the answer to "Singer's" comment regarding arci sending in taxes. Arci figured "Singer" had no profits to show and would never send in his own taxes. There was no mystery as to why arci sent in his tax forms to Alan.

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Here's, once again, the answer to "Singer's" comment regarding arci sending in taxes. Arci figured "Singer" had no profits to show and would never send in his own taxes. There was no mystery as to why arci sent in his tax forms to Alan.

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Great bump Comrade, Arci is the only guy to date to send in his tax forms. Tribute to Ol Archie Bunker hopefully he's still kicking and doing ok.

Came across this thread looking for something. Not bad redietz, Not bad. Putting your degree to use. Good stuff.

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Not bad redietz, Not bad. Putting your degree to use. Good stuff.

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This fucking asshole must be dreaming about you. Maybe that 200K hit bothered him so bad he dug up what he must think is some of his best work from 2016. I never saw this thread before, but, I'm convinced beyond any doubt, he is one fucked up dude.

Then just look at all the fucking morons that gave him a kudos, and you could see who the real losing pathetic fools are here.

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Not bad redietz, Not bad. Putting your degree to use. Good stuff.

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This fucking asshole must be dreaming about you. Maybe that 200K hit bothered him so bad he dug up what he must think is some of his best work from 2016. I never saw this thread before, but, I'm convinced beyond any doubt, he is one fucked up dude.

Then just look at all the fucking morons that gave him a kudos, and you could see who the real losing pathetic fools are here.

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Buddy, if you read past first post then the jokes on you.