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And mickey, you blab a lot but never once do you offer proof of anything. It's one thing snapping pics of every parking lot and mountain you come upon. Yet for some reason you forego pictures of your supposed winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
This ain't the 80's any more.
Pictures of jackpots doesn't prove that you won. Rob, this is going to go over your head when you first read it but think about it for awhile and see if you can finally get it. Winning is not an event, it's a process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Looks like the point shot straight THRU that hole in your head.
If you think pictures of roadsides and parking lots makes you look like you're anything but an overall bum, then some pictures of you hitting these little jackpots that occur "in this process" :) would apply some credibility that you actually play anything instead of gathering information on Indian casinos to impress the old ladies on vpfree with.
Everyone already knows you have lots of time on your hands because you've always been too lazy to get a productive job. And scamming the govt handouts is nothing new within the slug population. So let's have some proof of something, mickey. To date, the only thing you've ever proven on the forums, by total agreement, is that you're a mean alcoholic.
Wise up.
Robbie, my boy, you talk a lot about PROOF. Yes, PROOF, is a very interesting word. You should look up PROOF in the dictionary. Because PROOF is something you have never put up in your hundreds of thousands of posts on the various internet forums. You have never put up any PROOF on anything, Rob. You promised to put up PROOF, if arci would put up PROOF. Arci put up PROOF, but then you dishonored yourself so badly by not putting put the PROOF you promised to put up. But PROOF has been put up in these forums that you filed for bankruptcy. PROOF has been put up in these forums that you have two judgements against you for non-payment of rent. The landlords just love you, right? You claimed to live in a big house in those days but the PROOF showed you lived in a tiny apartment. PROOF has been shown that you live in your daughter's house. The kids have to take care of the poor old man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
So when you talk about PROOF, robbie, why don't you lead by example and start putting up some PROOF that you ever made in money in gambling instead of living off your wife and government handouts.
Hey, robbie. Riverwind!! Whoopee!
They say they have 2800 machines, but I can't find them on vpfree2. Do they have video poker?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Sorry, I forgot to look at video poker dot com. Riverwind has 15 Super Star Poker machines.
Their best game for dollars is 8/5 bonus. Their best game for quarters is 8/5 jacks.Quote:
Originally Posted by bocce ball
Canceling my plans to move to Norman, Oklahoma. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Shawnee, Oklahoma
From video poker dot com:Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Super Times Pay, 2 machines
Ultimate X, 2 machines
Total machine count according to World Casino Directory is 2000.
Tulsa
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With a few exceptions video poker is dismal in Oklahoma. Few machines and bad paytables.Quote:
Originally Posted by bocce ballFrom video poker dot com:Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Super Times Pay, 2 machines
Ultimate X, 2 machines
Total machine count according to World Casino Directory is 2000.
Entrance to Harrah's North Kansas City.
How far is this journey going? If you get to Indiana/Illinois you won't find many good games. There may be a few at Horseshoe in Hammond, Indiana but I haven't really looked in quite a while. Anything in Illinois will be bad.
What's the point with all these pictures of mostly Indian casinos? Is this your first road trip in 25 years or something? This will save you time: just go to Connecticut and do your drive-bys of Foxwoods & Mohegan Sun (and you can even claim you "won big" as usual without posting pictures of your supposed "wins"). We'll all say "!WOW!" and you'll feel great about yourself! Then even you will forever ignore all those other stupid Indian joints that litter our highways.
Actually Mickey should create his own website with photos and reviews, then ad Google Adsense and make some money.
If you don't like the thread then dont read it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I've been to your neck of the woods twice in the past six months and found some very exploitable games there. But dont ask because I wont tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by regnis
I like this "new" mickeycrimm. Traded in alcoholism for workaholism. :cool: Hopefully building a nice retirement fund!
Yeah right; more nonsensical ramble from the kew. Aside from your obvious flirting with him (YUK!) his only retirement fund will be the same as yours--food stamps, govt assisted living space, and welfare.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Regnis, did you expect anything else from the world's biggest tall tale-teller? If you asked when he's gonna check out the casinos in Macau and Singapore, the hobo would claim he's been there recently and "vultured" games all around Asia :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmI've been to your neck of the woods twice in the past six months and found some very exploitable games there. But dont ask because I wont tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by regnis
Just a laugh a minute.....
Bad idea in mickey's mind. That would mean filing something called a TAX RETURN and as such, the government handouts might take a hit or even come to an end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I very much enjoyed my trip through Oklahoma and New Mexico exploring out the casinos and advantage opportunities in those areas. I'm back at home doing some R & R. But I'm already planning my next road trip out of state. I will be interviewed by Bob Dancer and possibly Richard Munchkin on the radio show Gambling With An Edge sometime in the next few weeks. I will be releasing information on where to find good video poker along with comp in Oklahoma and New Mexico during the interview. We're not talking super duper advantage plays but plays that are just right for casino vacationers looking for a good bargain for their gambling dollars. These kind of plays are not on my agenda so I don't mind releasing the information.
Mickey. Were all the casinos you visited class3. I'm curious if some places have VLT's.
mickey, figure it out. Nobody's going on vacation to see Indian casinos in Oklahoma, and people who travel to New Mexico either visit Albuquerque, Santa Fe, Taos, or go to the Hatch Chili Festival. And they most certainly aren't destitute enough to have to stay in all those cheap roadside motels you have to flop in. And you know why? Because they have something called a SPOUSE and a FAMILY. You know--people whom they share their lives with? As in "they are not losers!"Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
But going on a show with a nobody midget and a creep who chose vp machines over his ill wife oughta fit right in with your agenda....whatever that is.
Northern Idaho
Mickeycrimm you're missing your chance: a website with photos and reviews of all these casinos. When the ad money starts coming it's a true advantage play
Sorry Q, I missed this question earlier. In Oklahoma you will find class II and class III. A casino will have both types.Quote:
Originally Posted by quahaug
It would take time away from AP'ing. And once I take money that I didn't win gambling I can no longer say my gambling earn is my only income.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Just another AP claim that is never supported. It's far more likely that he wouldn't take Alan's sage advice because it would throw a monkey wrench into his food stamps, welfare, SSDI, and Medicaid entitlements. And if he were truly a "professional gambler" he'd be crowing about how he's deducting 100% of his trip expenses from his schedule C. After all, someone who publicly claims to make six figures a year from gambling surely would want to reduce his tax liability, correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmIt would take time away from AP'ing. And once I take money that I didn't win gambling I can no longer say my gambling earn is my only income.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Good try mickey, but you'll never come close to the level of BS delivered to us by kew.
Mickey,Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Was there anything worth playing at Coeur D'Alene? We made it up there last year, checking out CDA/Sandpoint area but didn't get to the casino. Beautiful country.
The video poker was all very bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by dannyjMickey,Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Was there anything worth playing at Coeur D'Alene? We made it up there last year, checking out CDA/Sandpoint area but didn't get to the casino. Beautiful country.
Spokane
We did make it to Northern Quest last year. By far the longest craps table I have ever played on. There is a significant difference in gaming laws between Washington and Idaho.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Why does gambling income have to be your only income? Is that supposed to be some badge of honor?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmIt would take time away from AP'ing. And once I take money that I didn't win gambling I can no longer say my gambling earn is my only income.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Wealthy people have several streams of income which can be from jobs and investments and businesses.
Besides, when you're too old to spend time in casinos you could have a Web business you could SELL for a profit. Do you know any other casino players who sold their websites for a profit? Think hard.
I agree with Alan on this one, although I see Mickey's point too (I think). To me, it seems like Mickey is just fine with what he's doing and isn't after making a bunch of money....and at Mickey's age (late 50's I'm guessing?), that seems reasonable and what many people around that age likely do. Something like that would take quite a bit of work and new things would likely need to be learned for Mickey to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan MendelsonWhy does gambling income have to be your only income? Is that supposed to be some badge of honor?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmIt would take time away from AP'ing. And once I take money that I didn't win gambling I can no longer say my gambling earn is my only income.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Wealthy people have several streams of income which can be from jobs and investments and businesses.
Besides, when you're too old to spend time in casinos you could have a Web business you could SELL for a profit. Do you know any other casino players who sold their websites for a profit? Think hard.
On the other hand, I'm fine with investing my money wherever I can to make money, whether that be in casinos by APing, real estate, sports betting, stock market (which I'm a bit leery about), or building a company that makes customized dog sweaters or kitten mittens (if there's huge demand, which I doubt). I don't give a damn where or how I make my income.
I think gambling is too much of a niche market AND there already exists WOO/WOV, LVA, GWAE, and others.
But does anyone report on these casinos? There are perhaps millions of people who live in these states who probably check the Internet for nearby casinos and Mickey could lock that business up.
What is the problem with actually putting in some effort in order to realize an income? Sure you can invest here and there and hope for a return. But generally, middle class success in this country takes motivation, determination, and a bit of elbow grease. Mickey could follow Alan's advice, but does mickey sound like someone who's driven to succeed? He's mid-60's, and after a life of hoboing, casino-hopping, drinking, smoking, and without an education or family, instead of tackling something new like is being suggested, I'd expect he's well set in his ways.
All we can say is good luck Charlie.
I think the target audience is way too small, since I imagine most people don't do any research about gambling, casinos, or anything of the like. Now if it was for LV, that might be a different story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Absolutely disagree. the first thing consumers do today is go to the web to check out EVERYTHING. think of all the locals who go to the web to find out info about holiday events, New Year's Eve parties, etc. the fourth quarter is the biggest time of the year for casino restaurants.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS__I think the target audience is way too small, since I imagine most people don't do any research about gambling, casinos, or anything of the like. Now if it was for LV, that might be a different story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
And audience sizes are relative. A casino in one of these markets will gladly pay to advertise for 1,000 visitors, while a Vegas casino wouldn't.
Who actually goes to these casinos? I would guess locals for the most part and maybe some truckers and some strays just passing through. If that's the case the regulars would be on the casinos web site and the rest wouldn't care.
Some people aren't for sale and care how they make their money as much or more than how much they make. I'm not glorifying AP, I'm putting down simply being for sale to the highest bidder.
There's tens of thousands of "mickeycrimms" out there who drive around different states checking out the Indian casinos, only they don't bother with or care about anything to do with internet forums. We travel a lot, and the number of these places that have and keep popping up dotting our nation's highways are amazing. And they aren't subsidized by the poor locals & truckers and firewater-guzzling injuns who moved in from Gallop only.Quote:
Originally Posted by quahaug
All of the Indian casinos I've been in this year are very modern, clean, have excellent hotel rooms, and state of the art machines. The video poker is abysmal in most of them so I'm relegated to vulturing certain line games. I hibernated in Montana for over nine years and had no idea what current casinos floors looked like. But I do now. There is a whole new generation of vulturable line games out there. They are worth fairly good money if you know how to work it right. That means hanging around the casino in the busy hours picking off plays left by the ploppies.Quote:
Originally Posted by quahaug
The Riverwind in Norman, Oklahoma had abysmal video poker but had several vulturable line games. I stayed over night there so I worked the machines that night and the next morning before pulling out. I made a few hundred dollars. I only ran a $4200 wager on the card. This is what the sent me in the mail. My next trip though will be cheaper costwise. I won't make those dates but I'm sure they will send me another offer when this one expires.
Is it an average looking clientele at these places? The only Indian casinos I've been to are in Connecticut so that is a little different animal I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmAll of the Indian casinos I've been in this year are very modern, clean, have excellent hotel rooms, and state of the art machines. The video poker is abysmal in most of them so I'm relegated to vulturing certain line games. I hibernated in Montana for over nine years and had no idea what current casinos floors looked like. But I do now. There is a whole new generation of vulturable line games out there. They are worth fairly good money if you know how to work it right. That means hanging around the casino in the busy hours picking off plays left by the ploppies.Quote:
Originally Posted by quahaug
The Riverwind in Norman, Oklahoma had abysmal video poker but had several vulturable line games. I stayed over night there so I worked the machines that night and the next morning before pulling out. I made a few hundred dollars. I only ran a $4200 wager on the card. This is what the sent me in the mail. My next trip though will be cheaper costwise. I won't make those dates but I'm sure they will send me another offer when this one expires.
Again, a claim of winning after supposedly playing "$4200" on an unidentified game, with no pictures, other than something any tourist would get for signing up for a slot club card. You DO realize that mickey as an ultra-experienced casino rat, do you not? And BTW, you do also know that a simple call into that casino with one or two of those numbers shown on those HUGE comps you "earned", will easily result in them giving out your real name. Correct?
You continue to defeat yourself. Please stay off the sauce.
Singer has been inside casinos more than 1000 times in the past 15 years. If anyone fits the definition of a casino rat it's Robert Harry Argentino, aka Rob Singer. He blew his inheritance, filed bankruptcy, and couldn't even pay rent on a small fleabag apartment, hence court judgements for non-payment of rent. Low life Rob wants to bring everyone down to his sewer rat level.
They dress like normal people and they gamble it up mostly on the video line games which are the big hit these days. I think Vegas execs would be jealous of the average daily earn of the machines in the Indian casinos. The Indian casinos I've been in this year are world class and the clientele blows lots of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by quahaugIs it an average looking clientele at these places? The only Indian casinos I've been to are in Connecticut so that is a little different animal I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmAll of the Indian casinos I've been in this year are very modern, clean, have excellent hotel rooms, and state of the art machines. The video poker is abysmal in most of them so I'm relegated to vulturing certain line games. I hibernated in Montana for over nine years and had no idea what current casinos floors looked like. But I do now. There is a whole new generation of vulturable line games out there. They are worth fairly good money if you know how to work it right. That means hanging around the casino in the busy hours picking off plays left by the ploppies.Quote:
Originally Posted by quahaug
The Riverwind in Norman, Oklahoma had abysmal video poker but had several vulturable line games. I stayed over night there so I worked the machines that night and the next morning before pulling out. I made a few hundred dollars. I only ran a $4200 wager on the card. This is what the sent me in the mail. My next trip though will be cheaper costwise. I won't make those dates but I'm sure they will send me another offer when this one expires.
The Riverwind Casino where I put up the comp shot is located on the interstate at norman, just south of Oklahoma City. The target market is the Oklahoma City metropolitan area. They don't have a monopoly on the business but they get most of it.
Winstar is on the Oklahoma border 80 miles north of the target market, Dallas/Fort Worth. It a very modern casino with all the amenities and it's the largest casino in the world. They have 7400 machines and it's a mile and a half under the roof from one end of the casino to the other.
This is where Rob's ignorance really shows through although he tries to come off like he knows what he is talking about.. When you vulture games you don't sit on one machine. The $4200 in action represented somewhere around 35 to 40 plays on several different machines. Rob doesn't know how to work these short term advantages created by the ploppies but he represents himself as an expert in gaming. He's a laughing stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Explain to everyone what a short term advantage is, Rob. LOLOLOLOL! He can't do it because he is to ignorant.
Rob's ignorance shows through in just about everything he says. I am not talking about his obnoxiousness, which obviously also clearly comes through, I am speaking specifically of his ignorance on most subjects. For me, his comments on EV in the other thread, clearly demonstrates a guy that has no clue.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
"It doesn't take much to figure out who knows what they are talking about and who is just talking". :rolleyes:
You're just showing how you do nothing but make it up on the go. No casino AND ESPECIALLY NO INDIAN CASINO, cares if you put in $4200 worth of action on machine A, B, C, or any combination of all three....as long as you do it. And any walk-in from out of state would get that "exciting special" deal you showed simply for signing up for a card. Fess up--that's all you did, and you inserted that typical nonsense about "$4200 worth of vulturing, and I won a couple hundred for good measure and perception" just to sound important.
What you did in your response is dance around your BS because you realized ANYBODY would get that offer who's nothing more than a new sign-up.
Try harder next time.
Rob, name the casinos that will give you a room comp just for signing up for the card. I will certainly stop at them and get my free hotel stay. Wise up, dummass.
In my experience that's not the kind of offer everyone gets.
I've done a few one time local type casino visits with my husband when we've been traveling together. He plays very little himself. I play more, probably a few thousand in coin in, and left either up a lot or out no more than a hundred or two.
He's never gotten free hotel rooms in the subsequent offers. One time he got a discount offer for a weeknight stay but that was it.
Whereas I routinely get offers like Mickey's or even better - free weekend stays with free play, concert tickets, free gifts aka junk, etc..
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Originally Posted by pkspins
That is how it is with my wife and I. I play more coin in than she does, but my play is strictly VP. She plays 80 percent slots to 20 VP, and gets better free play and hotel offers.
Unless you're a Seven Stars you might have a problem getting any room at Rincon. My friends who are Diamond and Seven Stars say the place is sold out just about every weekend.
Rob, if you will tell us a casino where we get a comped room for getting the card we could have a Vegas Casino Talk convention by all staying the same night for free. Which one should we go to?
My understanding from online reading is that Cherokee is similar - the TR properties in North Carolina - but I have never been or tried myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Then again I've read similar things about AC in the summer months, since they sell so many rooms to weekenders, yet there's been posters here who seem to live in TR rooms.
Cherokee is sold out most weekends, and the pricing is exorbitant for weekends, considering the rooms themselves. It's a lovely property and reminds me of Pechanga, but the rooms are pretty ordinary. I don't know how they handle their Seven Stars requests, but it is an interesting question. They may designate "sold out" as their standard response to weekend requests.Quote:
Originally Posted by pkspinsMy understanding from online reading is that Cherokee is similar - the TR properties in North Carolina - but I have never been or tried myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Then again I've read similar things about AC in the summer months, since they sell so many rooms to weekenders, yet there's been posters here who seem to live in TR rooms.
I heard Cherokee is the "home property" of more Seven Stars players than any other TR casino. It being similar to pechanga is an accurate description, as the casino is massive. I think they built a new hotel tower a little while ago, but I remember them also using nearby motels for overflow. They gotta stop building these damn casinos way out in the middle of nowhere.
RS, I have lived in Tennessee for almost 20 years and have made it to Cherokee, which is about two hours away, maybe four times. I joke that if there were a helicopter shuttle, I'd go all the time. The roads winding down the Appalachian mountains into Cherokee are a real tester, especially in winter. You have to concentrate like a NASCAR driver, and no guardrails for stretches! For years, Cherokee was dry, but when it finally got alcohol, I thought those roads would be death traps. It is one pain in the ass drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS__
But it is a spacious, lovely property in what amounts to a huge beautiful forested area. They have built a new tower, again in concordance almost with Pechanga's growth. Cherokee has a real nice music venue. I saw Billy Idol there a couple of years ago and wondered, "middle of nowhere in North Carolina; how many Billy Idol tickets will they sell?" Well, it was completely jam packed, top to bottom.
We took a drive out there this summer from S. Dakota. My wife's parents live in Ashville and we stayed with them except for a night at Cherokee. We've been there 3 times in the past 10 years, and they keep improving the place--inside and out. But I've only played there once and for less than five minutes. Never trust Indian casinos.
Yeah the roads are twisty-turny but it's the Appalachia-feel of the area that's refreshing. Plus if you bring the right car then the roads can be fun.
My first trip to Cherokee I came in through Greensville (or something like that). I saw a sign that had a moose or some such animal on it, then saw a big life like statue of a moose nearby which I thought was cool and kinda funny. Then I realized it wasn't a statue of a moose but an actual moose (or antelope or whatever the hell). Bunch'a cars pulled over to snap some pics of it. Then noticed there wasn't just 1, but another 2 or 3 of them. It was really cool to see. Doubt I can find the pics of the mooses but if I do I'll upload some.
Edit: Could'a been Asheville or Greensboro now looking at a map. But I'm pretty sure I flew into South Carolina then drove to North Carolina.
La Center, Washington
Grand Ronde, Oregon
Hey Norma how bout them LEAFS:)Quote:
Originally Posted by NormaSmith
Oregon coast
Mt. Washingon in Oregon
Pendleton, Oregon
The Kootenai River, northwest Montana
You forgot to show the casino parking lot on this one :) And you better get home quick--food stamps get loaded on the 1st and ssdi checks come out on the 4th!
As a slot player, I enjoy reading MC's posts.
As an occasional flamer / internet troll, I enjoy reading Singer's posts.
"It don't mean nothin'," gents: keep 'em coming.
You just gave yourself away, Rob. I didn't know those dates but you certainly do. What's up with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
A picture on the wall at the Silver Spur in Troy, Montana
Casino rules for the Silver Spur clientele
I get ss. Those of us that do get told we have to wait at least a week after slugs like you to get your ssdi the 1st Wed. of each mo. And records show that you DO know those dates.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou just gave yourself away, Rob. I didn't know those dates but you certainly do. What's up with that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
BTW, there's only one reason you put that pic. up of the broad at the poker table. Since you never had a gf or wife, it gives you something to discuss with Rosey Palmer, since she's the closest thing you've ever gotten to you know what :)
Your last sentence implies that you are in some kind of know. That you've seen evidence I'm drawing some kind of government assistance. The sentence was not meant for me because I know 100% that no such evidence exists so you could not possibly have any evidence. The sentence was meant for the other members and readers of this forum....to put thoughts in their heads that maybe, just maybe, Crimm is a fraud after all. Very sly, Rob.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I'm going to make you a promise. I swear on the graves of my two grandmothers, two women I loved dearly, that if you can produce any proof that I'm on any kind of government assistance or check I will pay you $10,000.
In reality, there are only two people who know you are 1000% lying on this issue. That's you and me. It goes to show the lengths your disgusting ass will go to in order to smear someone.
Haha nice. How bout those grizzlies mick?
I think we'll be having a shitty year. They haven't put out a real good team in a few years now. But the young starting quarterback is looking pretty good. I hate it when they play an FBS team like Washington at the start of the season. Those teams want to showcase their talent by playing an FCS team early in the season, some team they can trash. But they pay big bucks to get an FCS team to come in and get their asses kicked.Quote:
Originally Posted by mcap
Then the Griz got their asses kicked by Eastern Washington last week. Yep, gonna be a shitty year. The years where they are on top in the polls are great. Missoula gets a big shot in the arm when the Griz hold home field advantage throughout the playoffs as the town packs in with the out-of-state teams and their fans. And their is nothing funnier than watching the opposing teams shiver their asses off from the cold of December.
The Griz are like the superstar athletes of Montana to the Montanans. In the bars on Saturdays everyone is like "F--k Alabama, we're gonna watch the Griz." And what is funny is they actually have somewhat of a national following.