His strategy isn't dangerous because of his "special plays." It's dangerous because it's an "up your bet as you lose" strategy.
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I apologize for not reading this thread sooner, as the PMs would have cleared everything up. I was convinced girlfriday was a sockpuppet, however, and didn't bother reading it.
Mr. Mendelson, as a former journalist, should recognize that what doesn't get said is usually more telling than what does. Mr. Mendelson continually asked about Rob "writing" the posts and PMs, as opposed to coaching someone else or being responsible for them. Mr. Mendelson doesn't like to lie in print, even on a forum, so one just has to connect the dots of what Mr. Mendelson doesn't say to figure out what's happening. Not that hard.
There were many tipoffs. Girlfriday's name, for example -- LOL. It tells you she's doing someone else's work for them. At least Rob has a sense of humor. Then you have the hyperbolic summary describing the PMs to and from me in the original post in this thread. I'm still trying to figure out how mentioning that MickeyCrimm is using his last name puts me in the category of idolizing him. And while I can be as narcissistic as Tony Stark, my PMs to girlfriday were strictly Dragnet in tone. So I'd say girlfriday's mischaracterization of the PMs, while of course not actually posting the PMs, was a big tipoff. Then we have the posing as a math-reliant advantage player who can't quite put her finger on what's wrong with Rob's voodoo. Then we have her showing up to simply take down kewlJ with some mortgage expertise and agree with Mr. Mendelson.
I mean, c'mon. It's not even in the debatable category as to what was going on.
The thing is, it doesn't get propped up without Mr. Mendelson, who's probably having a hearty guffaw at this point. He massaged this thing along.
The disturbing angle to me is that, since I was likely to respond when girlfriday asked if anyone else was using their real name, this was clearly aimed at me. So I have to assume Mr. Mendelson is part of my problem.
Mr. Mendelson, be careful. You may get one of those Fs from Ms. Stumhoffer I mentioned in a previous post. And this isn't English class.
I have posted here 8 years and am no "sockpuppet" for anyone. I was disdained when Rob stooped to the lowest level by acting just like his accusers. I actually enjoyed it more when he had his website and I could converse like a sane person. I had no qualms with anyone and actually gained some insight from Arci. Perhaps this is just a mirror of the dark side of our society- as I still see daily others helping one another and not holding their differences up as a display of their superiority.
Kind of reminds me of Andrews place Vegasboads,com with a touch of beachbabs over at w.o.v. ????
Unlike some, I am hesitant to call people names unless they call me names first.
So far when I got here MC and KJ welcomed me with name calling.
Maxpen and RS derailed a survey thread with name calling
And some socks have joined in and got banned.
I am trying to add to this site with commentary, but when met with name calling...I have no problem responding in kind.
I do it well. and THATS what annoys people. When insulted, I have the ability to reduce the flamer to a pile of cinders. And that seems unfair.
Maxpen and Rs try to flame me by childishly calling me TARD...and they end up getting what they deserve. It may not seem fair, like a person with a capgun gong againt a stealth bomber....but thats the lesson they learn. And it appears that I am the bad guy because I have the intellectual dexterity to destroy them.
However as people accept that I am just posting opinions, and stop attacking we all get along.
KJ accepted me, and we have had normal exchanges since. Yet MC recently decided out of the blue in a hijacking manner on a thread about off the strip restaurants....to call me an alcoholic after I made my recommendation of a place to eat. I flicked him away like a flea because at that time I didnt want the persons thread hijacked. However on my own thread of the "survey" I had no problem addressing the name calling of sewer rat and maxpaperboy toward me
Our sad little British troll finally got through after about 70 tries.
He used his home IP instead of proxies. 2.97.230.38.
What an idiot. Not too hard to trace that down if I want.
I blocked that, and have also changed the registration system to block him in some other ways.
This morning Rob's 89 year old Uncle died from pancreatic cancer. Rob was his only family and was at the hospital for two days straight. I'm sure he had plenty of time to write, coach others, and send PMs while he dealt with the final hours of his uncle.
Mendleson YOU need to stop this shit! You are complicit and/or enabling Singer. Either he is playing you or you are complicit, and just as guilty as he is. :mad:
I received a PM today from a member here (one of the good guys) that opened my eyes to see something I should have seen before but didn't.
Let me tell you what this whole fridaygirl sockpuppet was really about. Singer was trying to draw information out of me about my past mortgages, in the hopes of finding out something that he can use to identify and find me. He knew that posing as a banker and saying that I couldn't have gotten a mortgage, would draw me to respond and maybe give him something he could use. And I fell for it.
He likely has friends/relatives in the banking/mortgage industry that he will use to illegally obtain private information. Alan this isn't a game. This is a sick dude that is crossing over from internet to real world criminality. You are aiding him and being a part of it.
Not to mention, every time I have had to wait around in a hospital there is PLENTY of time to read and write things on the internet.
it does seem coincidental .....girlfriday shows up knowing alot about the postings here, claiming she has read thos board for years...just just now registered.
she is outed to post from an area where Singer lives/lived, and all of a sudden an "uncle" dies in a hospital.
Did he ever talk about how close he was to his uncle? How they would hang out and go on VP trips together.? I dont know I havent read anything by singer on these sites.
So since hospitals have visiting hours....he cant be there 24/7. So you are saying that he is so distraught that he couldnt post here after hospital hours? That would be an impossibility.
And thats if the death of an "uncle" is true
I dont know..girlfriday may or may not be singer....but this "uncle" death all of a sudden in the middle of it seems like a red herring.
When my father had his heart attack we remained in the hospital for his final 24 hours. When my father in law was dying we sat in the hallway outside his room around the clock. When I had my kidney/pancreas surgery which started about 11pm and lasted about six hours, my wife and son and sister in law were all there waiting. Do you honestly think they ring a visiting time is over bell for everyone?
I'll say it again. Girlfriday was banned because of guilt by association. She called no one a retard, she made no racist remarks, she didn't even say anything objectionable unless you are against criticism.
No one with a dissenting opinion will ever post here again. By banning girlfriday before even one violation of any rule -- written or unwritten -- and even without an IP address that was used before, she was cut off.
This should be renamed the "We're Afraid of Rob Singer Forum."
Congratulations. Your forum is safe. You have quashed dissent. Your opinions will go unchallenged. Your might is right and you killed your forum.
In a few days this incident will be forgotten just like all the others have but what will make it different is that no one with a dissenting opinion will post again. Why would they bother. The game is rigged against them.
Congratulations.
Its not about singer. Its about the improbability of a poster declaring in a very first post that "she" views this boad for years and just now needed to respond to a banking question. Then she later posts on a thread about bombs sniffing dogs in Ceasars.....that she likes dogs. Oh so innocent. Then less than 24 hours later she has a lengthy post about how disgusted she is about activity on this board.
She obviously had an agenda....ya think?
She was being dishonest from the begnning. OH yeah plus she was an AP. WOW WHAT A COINCIDENCE.
A female expert in banking AP that felt the need in the first 24 hours to scold us on our behavior.
she covered all bases....she gave us reason to believe that she would know everything that as been said over the years since she declares she has read this board for years. So that point is covered.
Plus she has an ax to grind revolving around the AP discussion...so she declares she is an AP
Women are almost extinct on gambling message boards, and female APs even rarer , and female banker APs that have read a board for years without posting are more rare than 18 yos in a row.
But she was found guilty for what violation in what post? Because Dan thought it might be Singer? Because Dan asked for a phone call?
Kewlj if Dan asked you to call him on the phone to verify your identity would you? You are so protective of your identity would you risk it?
Girlfriday joined an anonymous forum and within 24 hours is asked to prove her identity with a phone call. Meanwhile girlfriday is working in the very sensitive financial services industry where gambling is shunned. Don't deny it --it's true. Call your bank and ask them if their computers block any websites related to casinos. Heck the computers at KCAL and even the public computers in my apartment building block anything casino related. Even my own website is blocked.
Most suspect of all is Alan’s intense interest in defending “her”.
A believe differing opinions are always welcome, assuming they stand up to common sense review. Saying the sky is lime green because you saw it happen isn’t going to fly without ridicule. No different than anywhere else in the world.
I’ll say it again because it makes so much sense, you have to be playing a game Alan, you are not as gullible as you come off here.
Oh yea, f Rob Singer. Can you pass that on with my condolences on his loss when you talk to him today.
Okay Boz. So what did girlfriday write that was so offensive? Did she make any kind of "the sky is lime green" comments.
As I write this there are NINE forum members on the site but 183 viewing. Is it really that unvelievable for people to view this site for years and then one day decide to post?
you seem rather gullible and that is the basis for most of the back and forth.
A new female poster who claims to be an AP and has read thos board for years, within 24 hours of joining assuring us that her intent was to set a banking question straight, starts to bash KJ, reidietz, MC and the admin/owner Dan. What a change from the docile diminutive person who posted the day before. Meaning the day before was a set-up for the next days tirade.
why the heck would a female banker AP who read this board for years, yet never posted till now, care if the owner threatened to prosecute some trolls . What standing does she have after less than 24 hours of postings to question the owner.
All she seemed to want to do is rehash the 2 tables thing with KJ(a topic that seems to have passed)......and start over with reidietz, and bash MC while pretending to be the AP that knows reality. Already within 24 hours of coming here just to comment on a banking issue....she has an ax to grind with a bunch of people.
what rule did she break? She broke the rule of dont fuck with the owner on your very first day. Rule 327a part ix, subsection p
she broke the rule of lying without credibility. Geez...if you are going to lie...at least put some serous thought into it so its believeable
why not just come here and say you are an astronaut AP and are posting from space....and then bash a bunch of posters.
alan, you are easily duped. My advice is to stay away from timeshare pitches..even if they give you a free meal or hotel stay. Dont watch info-mercials, dont take the leaflets from people on LVB, hang up on telemarketers, stay away from ebay, stay away from places that contain animal names, like rhino, bunny, chicken.
I was talking about YOU Alan and your ridiculous claims on Yo’s and loss rebates taking away any credibility you had to present a differing opinion and expect to be taken seriously.
I don’t know Dan but he seems very reasonable and didn’t make the decision on a whim. I’m a gambler like you and I would bet you are playing a game and know exactly what this jackass Singer is up to. Only question is why you play the games like him.
I wasn’t around when he played the same games at WoV but it’s obvious he has done the same thing for years and is a POS. Reading what others have posted about his life over the years I honestly don’t get why you would associate with someone like him. Educate me, I’m all ears.
Compared to what others have written here? I'd say she was bland.
I'll also say (again) that if Rob was responsible for those posts he's a brilliant writer. The character he created was flawless.
I'm still interested in knowing if Kewlj would telephone Dan to prove his identity? Would anyone here do that? And how would you react?
There is no smoking gun guys. Make all the excuses you want, create all the justifications you want, but there's no smoking gun. There is a deep seated fear of Rob Singer, right kewlj? You think he's out to get your financial information. And then on WOV they were out to get your identity. It's a tough life you have.
Alan, why don't you just ask Rob if it was him or not? I have a feeling he lies to you as well. He has been lying about his VP system for years.
There was another guy who I thought it could be as well. But unless they are somehow using a VPN and misdirecting their IP in hopes of incriminating Rob, the evidence is overwhelming that its him.
I'll also say (again) that if Rob was responsible for those posts he's a brilliant writer. The character he created was flawless.
guiilble.....also stay away from the flawless Rowlecks watches sold on the street corner.
Boz if you and everyone else are going to harp on me seeing a random shooter throw 18 yos in a row and if that's how you're going to judge me, please block my posts.
If you don't like that I said it's better to win than to collect a loss rebate, please block me.
If you don't like that I interviewed Rob Singer please block me.
I'm not here to kiss ass. I interviewed four presidents, the Queen of England, the King of Spain and I was among the first TV reporters to cover the famine in Ethiopia. Whether or not you or anyone else can convert $200 of a loss rebate into cash is a pimple on my ass.
I have two kids, I'm a grandfather and God gave me a second chance at life.
You and everyone else can use all the math you want to and dispute everything I say about everything but you're not going to tell me what's important and 18 yos, loss rebates and stop losses don't control my life. There's a big world out there and I've seen it and the rest of you can keep doing your coin flips.
I'm done.
I find that the "girl" was odd that she bashed the improbability of KJ;s 2 tables thing, the improbability of him getting a mortgage, the improbability that redtiez is real in his claims.... but never discussed the improbability of 18 yos in a row.
why would you think this is so
Outside of this forum and the WOV forum no one gives a damn about 18 yos in a row. At the time even I didn't think much about it or I would have gotten the tape.
Frankly I'm more concerned when I played at Caesars and all eight players at the table had point-seven. That meant more to me because it cost me a bundle.
But still answer the question....wht would the "girl" be so concerned with probabilities of something being true or doable
like Kjs 2 table comment which had lost board interest....but she needed to beat a dead horse
like reidietz.....real or not real?
like the probability of the owner being able to prosecute trolls
but she would not dig up stuff like a 100 billion to one probability of 18 yos in a row.
I think he...i mean she has a crush on allan
Like I said who cares about 18 yos in a row? If you have a minute call a local radio, tv station or news paper and ask if they have a gaming reporter? Outside of only a few cities I'm sure the answer is no. Then ask anyone on the assignment desk if they'd be interested in a story about a craps player who threw the number eleven 18 times a row? Then let me know how much longer they talk to you.
But it bugs people who want their Kool-Aid to cure you.
who cares about counting 2 tables.....but she did care
who cares about the accuracy of reditz claims.....but she did care
who cares about Dans ability to successfully sue trolls.....but she did care
so why wouldnt she care about something equally insignificant but at the same time much less probable than the above occurring.
see alan,,,,,you refuse toanswer th question because it brings chatty girl friday closer to being a friend of yours. It seems no one was spared in her tirade......except alan. Even the board owner who stays out of these long back and forth arguments was ridiculed
yes a guy that witnesses a one in a hundred billion occurrence, was not questioned.
why do you suppose
did u promise him/her sex?
why did u get a pass on the improbable insignificant things in life.
Larry now you're trolling.
He wants you to cry to Dan and then motorboat his new rack. ;)
Notice he became quite the chatterbox once Biloxi was banned and is now working over time to convince someone that I’m Biloxi? I’d recommend he just pull his pantyhose up, tighten that girdle, shoulders back and tits up and do what most girls do- go to the owner and use his feminine charms to find out if I’m Biloxi herself.
*with apologies to Eli's*
You can always tell an innumerate, but you can't tell him much.
Alan, your statement is astounding in its ... what's the word? ... cupidity, or stupidity?
Whatever, the idea that nobody else in the world would bat an eye at 18 yo's in a row is beyond absurd.
True, it may mean little to Ma and Pa Kettle, but to those who understand the math of gambling it is a stunning claim.
Pure bullshit, of course: I call it stunning bullshit.
Of course its stunning BS.....yet of all the improbable things she questioned....the most improbable thing she left out. And on top of that Alan bemoans that she was banned for no reason.
The main offender of declaring the improbable was not held under the microscope by girlfriday
I am not even arguing if it happened. There is one fact on this board and that is.....The claim by alan has the highest improbability of any other claim here by pure math.
So why didnt she question that along with all the other complaints she had.There is alot she didnt believe and questioned.
Answer is obvious.....as alan sticks up for her and provides alibis
the thing about girlfriday ...the big mistake....is that he went and shot his load prematurely. He should have pretended for a month or so first, gain some trust, and then rip into people. But he has no staying power.
Rob thanks you for the condolences. He's been at St Josephs Hospital in Tucson.
The posts from girlfriday were from a cell phone in the greater Phoenix area, sometimes showing as Mesa.
Cell phone IPs only give a very general location. Tucson is possible to show that way.
Alan, girlfriday was banned for threatening me.
Why do you keep ignoring that?
Dan what was the threat? You told me she and her husband said they were going to investigate you. What kind of a threat is that?
It's your forum so do what you want. But I think you chased away a legitimate new poster by asking them to call you and prove their identity. Would you ask kewlj to prove his identity? Would you ask anyone else?
It's often tough to tell if the stuff flowing from Alan's keyboard is ever filtered through his noggin; seems like a stream of unconsciousness.
Makes you wonder how the board's own cub reporter could have interviewed four presidents, the Queen of England, the King of Spain and be among the first TV reporters to cover the famine in Ethiopia.
I do not know if this was mentioned in other threads, but a friend of mine informed me that Rob was outed on the Las Vegas Advisor forum as a sockpuppet posing as a mortgage broker.
Now there's a coincidence rivaling 18 yo's (or is it yos?).
Let's talk a bit about Barney. I still believe it is Singer. Probably posting through a friend (imagine being a friend to Singer...eww...oh that's right Alan. :rolleyes:). Anyway, even on the off chance that it is not Singer, as I believe, can we agree this person (see post below) is NOT seriously wanting to contribute positively to this site? If THIS isn't games and trolling, then I don't know what is. I really don't think Singer or whichever sockpuppet of a previous member, should be "rewarded" by being allowed to continue. At some point, you gotta use common sense. Again...just look at this post. :rolleyes: He is selling "skunkhats" and "goat coats" to supplement his AP "monies". Come on.
The above post is just a silly parody of AP posts. Even if not meant in fun, it's harmless and I don't see the need to ban Barney.
I do think there's a good chance it's a fake account, though. I'll be watching closely.
Kewlj seems to think that anyone and everyone who questions his play or the claims of any players must be either Singer or a confederate of Singer's.
Is it so impossible that there might be just a few other people on the world who doubt the claims and question them?
Granted, this forum is so hostile to anyone who doubts the holy grail it is unlikely any of the "doubters" will post. But there are still hundreds of people who come to this forum every day and their silence is deafening.
Eventually all dissenters will leave and I'm sure kewlj is drooling over the prospects.
What would he have to gain Alan, since we dont know his name, and he doesnt sell his services(APservices). If after over a year of reading his posts, and I give him the benefit of the doubt and believe him because to me a novice NON AP, the posts ring true with both the ups and downs provided. If I am wrong and find out, its not like I need to live in shame the rest of my life...I just smile and move on. Or I can without proof call him a liar and go through the angst of back and forth bullshit arguments with no proof being provided on either side.
I think dan was right. If you envy his situation, you dont want it to be true. I dont envy his situation. I made 6 figures doing what I liked and he makes 6 ffigures doing what he likes. I dont envy chefs that make 6 figures, because I just dont want to do that job. I dont envy accountants like my wife...because its not a job I covet. I think alan, you covet the job KJ has. And thats the rub.
Its obvious the people who are jealous of anothers job. People who secretly wish they could make 150k as a pharmacist, would say..."all pharmacists do is put pills in bottles" or "its a nothing profession". But in the end they are showing their hand...like ALAN is.Its obvious Alan wishes he could be what KJ claims to be. A person that never wins consistently at casinos as er his own words....desperatelt wants what Kj CLAIMS HE HAS.
Meanwhile, I believe him, but I wold not trade places with him....nor would I with my wife for that matter.
His job and my wifes job doesnt interest me as far as wanting to do it myself
Gosh, one would think that seeing eighteen yo's rolled in a row, coupled to the opportunity to bet on them and parlay winnings to the house limit would be the holy grail.
"I dont believe KJ" says the man who claims to have seen 18 yos in a row
At this point you're trolling, aren't you? You're trying to get a rise out of me, aren't you? Your comments have nothing to do with the discussion. Kewlj likes to raise the same issue. So do the rest of you. I am not responding to the 18 yos again. It's ancient history. Frankly I don't now and never did bet on horn numbers except on the come-out roll to insure my passline bet. The yos did not start on the come out roll -- to make them would have been NEGATIVE EXPECTATION. Deal with it.
Uh, no.
Just making a point, using your stupid "18 yo's in a row" claim to buttress it.
No comment from you was expected or desired; your claim speaks for itself.
In mentioning it in this thread I used it as an example of what would be the holy grail at craps, had it in fact happened (it didn't, of course).
Sorry, I was never an investigative reporter. I was a business and consumer reporter. I was a producer at CBS News, as well as an assignment editor and reporter. I was a writer for various print publications. I even did weekend sports at WTVH in Syracuse. I was a reporter at CNN and an anchor with Fox News. But I was never an investigative reporter.
But you've been trolling me since rec.gambling.craps.
I dont jay walk, but If i saw danger ahead I would.
I dont play roulette, but if I saw a board that showed 26 coming in 10 times in a row......as i walked by, if there was room at the table...I would take a flyer and put a lousey 5 dollar chip on 26.
you werent being asked to molest a young girl. I mean you can have hard and fast rules to live by in that regard.
this was just as a bystander at a near empty table....putting a red chip on 11 after seieng it come in 10 times in a row.
the "i dont " excuse is total nonsense. You are not a programed robot. You are a human being that acted in a way no human being with your knowledge would act.
I dont drive on the wrong side of the road, but I would to avoid an accident
there are always exceptions to rules., especially rules that dont hurt anyone if u break them.
Looks like you found your Stanton, boys. Merry Christmas !
Larry, next time you see even THREE yos in a row (and this happens frequently) please, bet $5 on the yo. Let us know what happened.
I'm not too surprised Alan left.
He was comfortable when Singer posted, as he had his back.
Once Singer got bounced Alan found out he was pretty much alone and had no support for many of his claims.
This is Barney,
I would like to contribute the LID's secret AP Riverboats plays whenever he gets desperate at River Boat Casino. The move which shown in picture I took, occurred last summer and resulted in trade for $300 of free buffet foods at no cost to his bankroll. This happened at one of the River Boat casino that was shown in recent Road Pic threads. I took the picture of the LID as he landed this nice Ohio River trout.
Thank you very much
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