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Apparently too many of the people here have launched into their usual side fights. So to summarize the issue surrounds this post:
Now, to sum it up, mickeycrimm says he posted this in error but does not deny that his statements are true, and AxelWolf and mickeycrimm seem to have made peace over Mickey's post.
Let bygones be bygones and if the two of them are at peace why should anyone else stoke a fire of discontent. It may be true what Mickey posted and Axel says he did nothing illegal and that should be the end of it.
A skipper is a malfunctioning machine that when you inert a coin(s), it thinks you have put in more than you actually have. Usually, the faster you feed in the coins the more confused the machine became(its known as fast-feeding) it was possible to feed in just 2 coins to get a 5 coin hand. Sometimes a 3rd coin would actually confuse the machine into thinking you put in many extra coins and it would kick out what it thought you put in extra. No, they didnt just fall through to the coin tray... if you did it fast enough.
Again, this was a fairly rare event. I cant even count the many thousand of machines over many years I and my partners played while hand feeding, and in that time, over many years I only came across 3. They wouldn't last long, perhaps a week at the most. Even then, you were limited to only a few hopper fills per shift. A fill was normally between $200 and $500. Interesting note: El Cortez only filled their quarter machines with $50 in fear of over payers and other problems.
Fills were logged on a fill sheet/book inside the machine. Each casino had their own fill rules (ussully 3 per shift) before they would do a fill check. Obviously, a skipper wouldn't show up on a fill test, however, an unusual amount of fills would eventually get someones attention before they shut it down and called a tech. If you got lucky enough to find a machine with a high enough denomination you would never need to take a fill and you could just free-roll hand-pays. Eventually someone would take notice and shut it down.
Skipper is an unusual word to use for getting extra credits. I think a skipper might better describe a machine that failed to register coins -- skipping the coins fed in.
The term skipper probably originated because when you dropped in 4 coins the coin counter would skip all the way to 5 instead of stopping on 4. The original video pokers were coin feeders with no credit meters. You had to feed in the coins and when you hit a pay the coins would drop to the tray. There were still some of these machines left, 9/6 Jacks, at the Pioneer/Laughlin in the late nineties. And yes, some of them skipped.
It’s amazing how Mickey and his click so far threw five pages of shit against the wall waiting to see what sticks.
“Fuck off candy ass bitch. Kj is right. I've seen you're punk shrimp ass. Five nothin'. A hundred nothin'. Just the right height to suck Shack's dick. Your hero is putting out misleading information on the AGS 5K's too. Now let's talk about how all you do is run multiple cards on freeplay to make a living. Scumbag bullshit. You're not a gambler. You're a fucking cheater. You work skippers too. That is, until you got your punk asses busted. You're a disgrace to the profession.”
After mistaking Axel and printing the above quote Mickey says:
“I said some things I shouldn't have. I have no clue if Axel runs multiple cards. I just threw it in there for effect. Just like I did the skippers.”
This is what a lying sCumbag does when without facts just makes shit up with no concern of anyone’s reputation that disagrees with him. Just read his posts about anyone that challenges or calls him out. It obvious is all for effect. Guys like him and Boz do a lot of this. Whatever they think sounds good and fits their narrative, they'll throw it in a post for effect.
Now the click threw 5 pages of deflection shit at everyone and the main purpose of this thread will all be thrown in the washer removing the actual dirty scum Micky left behind. What he said and did reads big on the bullshitter meter. Twist it all you want; the actual facts will always remain. Micky pins the meter.
Now we have his renewed pal Axel joining in explaining the 30-year-old skipper play. You just can’t make this shit up. This is just another display of deflection of the facts and how through thick and thin this group will do anything to keep their has-been AP myth alive.
I’m thinking Monet could point out much more. That’s why guys like Boz will jump on him every chance he gets trying to discredit his comments.
FACT: Mick is willing to say and make up anything be it the truth or not about anyone for personal gain. Randomly making up lies against one of his own click members confirms he has no limits on what or who he will lie about. I would take whatever he says in the future with the weight of a grain of salt. (without actual proof.)
P.S. I had the balls to confront the Shack head to head. I lasted two posts. I’m shocked I made it to the second post. So, stop with just another one of your LIES that I could possibly be upset for being nuked. Not one of you WOV reject cowards here or still there would ever call out that lucky bailed out fraud, phony AP with all the alleged math answers.
While all this has been fun.....is axel really a pipsqueak?
Blackhole you did a good job exposing what you did. Yes there are posters here who have their usual methods and posts. V is a troll. Keystone is here to blast me, so is Boz. Anything Rob says is met with a challenge about his honesty and math. This forum is a piece of shit. And Dan let it get that way. He allowed the personal attacks under the guise of "free speech" which is total bullshit. He will deny it right and left but he allows the bullshit because bullshit = traffic. He even posts his own bullshit such as talking about going to the NGC about a casino but refuses to name the casino or even truthfully tell what happened.
The real question is why do any of us continue to bother with this bullshit? There is very little useful info posted here, but just a lot of fighting.
It's really sad.
So getting back to what you did blackhole. Yes you proved a point, and so what?
The shit continues. We're all wasting our time.
Not me monet. I won't be in the grave very soon. I've got a good 30 or 40 years left with all of my replacement parts.
Hard to disagree with any of that.
I will add though, that by and large--and aside from the occasional sideshows facilitated mostly by expat WoVers--this forum has really become the outside-world comms outlet for mickeycrimm. He is the most prolific poster, and he comments/bloviates in every thread that comes down the pike.
It's therefore elementary to conclude that his life, as simple as it may be, would be totally shattered and even more indescribably lonely were it not for the release he gets here. I don't mind reading his tall tales and claims to know all the great things about any AP who gets mocked for whatever reason. I know what mickey is, and I need a little dopey in my life. He provides that during my spare time, which surprisingly is not all that often in my retirement years.
I will also add however, that a poster like MrV has crumbled into moronic oblivion once his blind babbling partner LarryS gave up. His only purpose is to troll, only he has never had the ability to do it effectively.
V is gentle in his trolling. But then there are the assholes like keystone/elaine/keystone who only have one purpose. Even Boz has on occasion contributed positive content.
Frankly I miss kewlj. While we disagreed at least he provided content worthy of discussion.
Mickeycrimm actually does provide a lot of worthy cobtent, but he gets sidetracked.
Rob you used to give good content but you have been criticized so many times that I know you've given up. It's too bad. But you just couldn't stop your attacks and now any post only generates attacks against you. As I said all along you are your worst enemy.
If the attacks stopped, if real discussion returned, if the total assholes lIke keystone/elaine/keystone were removed as Dan said he would, and if kewlj stopped trying to ban everyone, the forum might have a chance.
But it won't happen.
Keystone/elaine/keystone you're an asshole. For years I ran this forum and I created hundreds of pages of content and made thousands of posts in an effort to build a forum that you and some others destroyed.
I know your case well. After you were banned as keystone and then you were banned as elaine you promised Dan that you would tone down your attacks. You didn't. You resumed being the fucking piece of shit that you are.
You don't bother me. But I'm disappointed that Dan didn't keep his promise to manage the forum. You Keystone exposed Dan as the wimp he really is.
Nothing about Singer saying KJ's husband probably died of AIDS? If Dan goes on this banning spree like you suggest to prove he is not a wimp, shouldn't that and any anti-Semitic post be used as the number one place to start? What insults are worse than others?
Or should he just close down the forum in your opinion? Honest question Alan.
A Non Restrictive Forum.
Jews are Welcome.
No Mexicans though!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJAETpUpei4
Believe me Rob has gone too far in so many threads that I've given up counting or mentioning. Even when he attacked Arc about his wife I told him to stop it and it was wrong. He's 1000000% worse now-- he knows it, you know it, I know it.
DAN SHOULD HAVE STOPPED THE PENIS THREAD AND HE DIDN'T AND THAT IS WHEN I CALLED DAN A PUSSY FOR JUST TRYING TO BOOST TRAFFIC.
This place needs a damn good housecleaning. He won't close it down because I'm sure he bought it with a plan to sell it. But what idiot would buy this now with its eight active posters?
I don't post much anymore because grown men calling each other names really isn't my thing. Rather than ban everyone, maybe a few of us sitting back and looking at what idiots we are posting this crap would be better.
Just saying.
No one should be banned. Everyone should grow up.
I am not smart enough to figure out what you want.
You ask for a housecleaning.
You say nobody should be banned.
You ask Dan to close down the Site.
You are pissed off how he runs his site.
Do you do the same thing when you sell a car or house?
Do you go visit the new owner and tell them that you don't like the furniture or new paint job?
Just post up the list of who you would of already banned so we can see who should stay or go.
Alan please...I’m not one of those 22 blue haired hags that you try and sell carpet cleaner to every Saturday...not buying what you’re selling at all. You cry when anyone says something you don’t like and don’t say a word to your buddy, who has said far worse shit than anyone I’ve seen here....Funny thing is, I never recall seeing Dan ever tell you how to run this place when you were the owner, so maybe you should give him the same consideration...until then, take your pacifier and STFU
I don't give a fuck anymore. I've got better things to do. Jacquie wants me to move back to LA and that seems like the thing to do.
Not reading all this but what the hell’s a skipper?
Just another dumb "AP" claiming something without caring about the facts.
Count up mickey's post in the late year compared to Alan's or mine. Then wise up.
arci got everything he deserved and he's still getting it with his slug son having died of an overdose. His poor wife was ill and instead of giving her the opportunity to have a decent final years, he greedily chose to satisfy his own insatiable "AP-craving" for ap-vp degenerate action.
What goes around certainly does come around, and in such a righteous way.
I came to Vegas for retirement. I'm almost 67, collecting two pensions, and doing a small amount of TV work. Frankly I'm bored here. I never met any lady here I wanted to date more than once, and there's nothing keeping me here. The downside of moving back to California is the cost of living and a huge state tax bite. Ten percent state tax coming out of my pension payments is real money.
Keystone never claimed to be an AP and has never contributed even one positive bit of info to this forum. He's a jackass troll who loves how Dan runs this forum because he wouldn't be allowed to post his vomit on the WOV. In simple terms he's an asshole.
Have you considered moving to Portland or Seattle?
Both are interesting, progressive, hopping cities with casinos nearby.
Oregon has an income tax but no sales tax, and Washingtion has a sales tax but no income tax.
I can see how living in Las Vegas could be boring: I'm climbing the walls after only a few days there.
I never have posted or tried to join WOV numbnuts....and I don`t really have any opinion on how Dan runs this forum....see, it`s his...and being his, he can do whatever the fuck he wants with it...I don`t have any opinion either on how often he does or doesn`t wash his car, that`s his too....get it dummy?
Yup, we're all dummies and Keystone and his socks are not self-proclaimed "AP's"...:)
Never posted on WoV? Go over and punch the anonymous coward handle in and see what you get.
Now state your purpose here. You're not as good looking as Alan, as well-endowed as me, and you are too stupid to ever be hired by either of us.
I see another MrV.
[QUOTE=Rob.Singer;81045]Yup, we're all dummies and Keystone and his socks are not self-proclaimed "AP's"...:)
Never posted on WoV? Go over and punch the anonymous coward handle in and see what you get.
Now state your purpose here. You're not as good looking as Alan, as well-endowed as me, and you are too stupid to ever be hired by either of us.
No, pretty much just you and Alan lol
Yesterday afternoon I get a PM from the Martian Reditz. After reading it I assumed I wasn’t supposed to get it. Here’s what it said Quote: My suspicion is that blackhole and the other anti-APs get particularly active after they peruse their year-end casino summaries. LOL. I just ignored it.
Today Mickeys first post is Quote:
Just like the Martian Reditz while a member here was always working the back door soliciting buyers for his picks, it appears he also is still working the back door to get his (what he thinks is clever) comments posted for the AP click. Looks like to me Reditz is also proving to be a sneaky lying jerk.
You can't make this shit up.
Are you fucking kidding with this post Axel?
Do you mean the bankrupt broke bum living in his broken-down camper (we’ve all seen the pictures) parking in his kid’s driveways stealing electric and cable?
Private investigators cost a lot of money. You think he could afford this? Please explain why you think he or anyone else would want to do this? Sounds like when you posted on WOV that ever since I joined WOV all of a sudden you started getting weird phone calls.
Get over yourself Axel. You might mean something to the click you’re hooked up with, but to everyone else you’re a big zero. None of us give a shit about you or the horse you rode in on. You’re no different than having an extra channel on our cable TV package. More entertainment.
Got another post from the Martian. I must mention that was one hell of a quick response to my post above. Looks like the Martian is ready to go to blows. I better be careful.
Quote:
You were definitely supposed to get it. Nothing sneaky about it.
We're going to mix it up in the real world, you and I.
Yes, I received the PM from redietz. I also seen that it was addressed to "blackhole, mickeycrimm." I'm sure you seen the same thing. He had to type in your name so it was no mistake. You are lying about redietz trying to be deceptive. That makes you a lying two-bit scumbag.
Keystone just tell me why you read and post this forum? Is it just to attack and troll me? Or do you have another purpose?
Listen moron, I'm done with your lies and bullshit. You just don't know where else to go and bullshit trying to save face from being a two-faced liar. Believe me, no one fell for it and recognize the facts.
Everyone here has your number by now, especially after reading all the nonsense you posted along with the AP click after you were exposed for what you really are about.
As far as me seeing your name with my PM is just another lie you dreamed up. Dan will confirm your lie. Below is exactly what my PM notification and text looks like. Please locate your name asshole.
(notification)
Yesterday
redietz
01-06-2019 01:10 PM
Year End Casino Summaries
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redietz
Senior Member
Join Date
Jul 2011
Posts
4,979
My suspicion is that blackhole and the other anti-APs get particularly active after they peruse their year-end casino summaries. LOL.
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The truth of the matter is, you're nothing but a dumb idiot. Sorry if I gave you a permanent black eye in your own virtual home. Actually, your only home. Just like getting caught cheating on your wife. She might forgive and stay with you, but she'll never forget what you did to her till her death. From here on in, everyone including your AP click should know how far to trust you, and realize they could never be sure when you might decide to unload on them. AP's especially alleged AP's don't like that. Especially when it's obvious you lost control of your alcohol destroyed mind.
Of course I'll be looking forward to your twist on the wife thing, but what I said is a fact.
Thanks.
And yeah, I think I would totally play that, assuming it was worth enough per hour and whatnot. I can’t imagine it wouldn’t be really strong, though. Even on 25c, you’re probably doing 500 HPH and even if you’re only getting 1 extra on a 4-coin feed or whatever, that’s about $125/hr, less the house edge?
I question 500 hph. It's been a long, long time since I fed quarters into a slot machine. I really doubt you could play that quickly. I also wonder about the speed of such machines.
But to be honest I've never seen a coin fed video poker machine.
Yeah, thinking about it now, I really have no idea how fast you could play such a machine. Regardless of the speed, you're making really good money for the amount of effort and risk involved. You're looking at a 20% or 25% edge (less the HE) depending on how you calculate it.
Damn, you make it easy. Here's a screenshot of the PM sent to me by Redietz. It's addressed to blackhole, mickeycrimm. Please, locate your name, asshole. It's right next to mine. Get Dan to verify that! You keep trying to make others out to be liars but it's you that is the lying two-bit scumbag and this screenshot proves it:
Your screenshot only proves what's on your screen, blackhole may not see the same thing on his screen.
I have been getting PMs from the ditz too, some messages have multiple recipients listed, other messages have no recipients listed.
I don't know what other members' screens show, and neither do you.
Redietz also sent me a PM, suggesting another forum.
And neither does blackhole. Yet he called me a scumbag liar over it.
But let's see if we can figure it out for you. If redietz sends a PM just to you then only your name will appear. If he sends it to multiple people, including you, then their names will also appear. Do you think that might be it, Inspector Clouseau?
But your original point is understood...the ditz put a thought in the wormm's head, which the wormm used to antagonize you.
Maybe it's good that the ditz is feeding the wormm some clever lines, because without ditz playing ventriloquist the dummy would continue to blurt out his tired old corny barfly one-liners.
Mickey, you're pretty much a known quantity here on the boards.
Quick to rise, slow to recede, but basically a decent, dare I say "caring" human being at heart.
Why else would you post helpful info when most of us just hurl shit bombs at one another?