I just got an Amber Alert urging Residents to stay in their homes except for Essential business. This is getting really concerning and scary. :/
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I just got an Amber Alert urging Residents to stay in their homes except for Essential business. This is getting really concerning and scary. :/
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Originally Posted by dannyj
You're right I'm not very familar with your views. I see you post on here some.
Trump can readily choose to release his tax forms. It is his choice to go back on his word. What you point out for Obama is something that is largely out of his control, but yes he lied. Yes, Presidents have lied in the past. Yes, that is all true. Hell look at Hitler. By that standard Trump is just Jim Dandy, no?
I think the healthcare system is a joke in this country relative to what it should be. Like I said, go look at Valient and see some really huge issues. Oh our system was so great ! Free Market is the greatest!!! Fucking idiots. Insurance for the healthy and the middle finger to the sick !
When the CoronaVirus is said and done with and we give it a 10 on the "healthcare system upheaval" scale then whatever the fuck Obama did will be a 1 or 2 at very most. There are core fucking issues with healthcare in this country.
Dude your post is pretty helter skelter.
It is out of Obama's control now, but he had 5-6 years after obamacare was forced on the country and I don't remember him ever saying he fucked up about people keeping their doctors.
Classic comparing Trump to Hitler, but yeah, by that standard he is Jim fuckin Dandy.
Everything being relative, you say our healthcare system is a joke relative to what it should be... I think we should always strive for perfection, relative to that yeah it's a joke, but there is miles between where we are and perfection.
You say, "Insurance for the healthy and the middle finger to the sick ! I don't know I'm not on obamacare, but I thought the sick couldn't be left out. Pre-existing conditions and all. "Fucking idiots."
You say, "There are core fucking issues with healthcare in this country." I say, WELL NO SHIT!
Wasn't comparing Trump to Hitler. Was comparing your analogy to Trump and this Obama thing. I'm kinda beyond taking it seriously.
So if you are so against whatever it is that Obama did, then how should healthcare be fixed? What is it that he did that was so awful versus what you believe should be done? Just keep it simple, you have me curious how you see this.
Are you familiar with Valient and their business practices ?
Mostly against gigantic legislation that doesn’t have bipartisan support. Remember not a single republican voted for Obamacare. The public was against it as well. Didn’t matter, the Dems rammed it through anyhow. They had to pass the bill to find out what was in it (pelosi). Millions were thrown off of their old insurance and made to pay for things they didn’t need or want. Many more went without insurance AND were made to pay a fine as well.
Like I said earlier, they didn’t have to blow up the whole system just to get more poor and or people with pre existing conditions covered. They could have set up a different program for them. But again, they wanted single payer all along.
I fyou like your doctor you can keep your doctor is not the only lie Obama told about Affordable Care Act. Hell, the name of the frickin' bill, "Affordable Care Act" is a lie itself. Obama and the Dems pushed the narrative that under Obamacare healthcare premiums would be cut. They actually at least doubled. So that was an egregrious lie that really hurt the American people. I remember Boz, a small business owner, complaining that healthcare premiums for him and his wife went from $400 a month pre-Obamacare to $1600 a month under Obamacare.
Now, Trump and his tax returns. What Trump said was he would release his tax returns when his audit was over. In hindsight that's pretty funny. Someone of his wealth, that owns as much as he does, is under perpetual audit. It never ends. Hahahaha! So he will release his tax returns when the audit is over. LOL! I personally don't give a damn about his tax situation.
Rachel Maddow got her hands on a couple of years of his tax returns and the dude had paid a couple hundred million in taxes. Rachel Madcow had mud all over her face.
So your main problem with it was that Republicans didn't agree with it?
If you don't have single-payer, it never works. "A different system for them" is the same problem we already had. Insurance doesn't work so well when privatized because guess what, insurers don't want to cover the sick because that is not in their interest. Real fucking simple economics. Yes costs went up for some, including myself. The younger people had to start subsidizing the older. These are problems or symptoms of something being fixed.
You can also find many people who were previously sick and the thing helped. I was annoyed too I had to subsidize old and sick, but thats sorta what you want insurance for. In America though insurance is a tool for profit and seen as a good thing for business just as much as the insured.
You guys turn this stuff Trump says into a joke, but on the other hand you are so pissed the media attacks him and people don't take him seriously. This shit has been going on since day 1. Which is it? Laugh and don't take him seriously, or be respectful and listen to it? You guys want both, depending on the specifics. I'd say THIS observation is funny, but it is really just pathetic.
So how did this Rachel thing go down? Was it like Geraldo Rivera opening up Alcatraz's tomb then she was like "oh I fucked up". Then there was mud on her face? She was too dumb to go over the documents before she aired them?
You forget about the other tax return that was released where he had like the biggest loss in the country for that period? Something like that. Who had mud on their face then, Mickey?
I don't care about his returns directly, I just want a President who is as he presents himself. THis guy can't even keep his own cabinet. If he worked for me, he'd had a few talkings to by now and then I'd have fired him. When you can't get the buyin of management under you, then you're really really not a good leader. He'd had heard "you're fired" fo sho'.
With establishment presidents the underlings in the cabinet are meant to keep the president in line. They control him for the establishment. Trump don't take that shit. He's the boss and if you don't start acting like it you're out of here. A lot of them bozos thought they were going to control the president and got fired. Good riddance!
The media is just fucking horrible. They drove Trump to quit having press briefings. They complained out the ass about it. He started having them again over coronavirus. When the American people got to see what he was saying without it being filtered thru the media his popularity started climbing. So now CNN and MSDNC say they are going to quit covering the press briefings. You have to understand the media isn't interested in the truth. The one and only thing they are concerned with is destroying Trump. Nothing positive is ever said about him only negative. But we see thru the bullshit media and will re-elect Trump. You don't like it I dont give a fuck.
Trump is too dumb and legitimately needs cabinet experts. We as a country don't need yes-men. Him being the man-child he is, 100% needs every yes-man he can find.
It is interesting how you ignore every question of mine when you don't have the typical propaganda bullshit answer that has been pre-pumped into your head as a response.
My main problem with it is I didn't agree with it. That the majority of the general public agreed with me is irrelevant. Dems had a super majority and steam rolled the public. In 2010 the repubs picked up 63 seats in the House to take control of that chamber. For dems it was the most losses by a party in a House midterm election since 1938. So yeah, the general public was against obamacare.
Thanks for admitting what most already know, "(If you don't have single-payer, it never works)". That has always been the end game. It's just that dems lie, they never have an open , honest conversation with the public. They give the free shit army what they want and bullshit the rest to come along.
I don't have an answer to what it should be. I'm for safety nets and helping people that is why it seemed to me that they should create a separate program for the two under served groups, the poor and those with pre-existing conditions.
Lets be honest. Insurance is risk pooling, where people pay into a pot and be compensated when the risk event occurs. Putting people with pre existing conditions into that pool is not insurance anymore. The risk event has already happened. Under obamacare you would have to pay for everyone's issues. No more a la carte where my wife and I pick out what WE need and can fit into our budget. No, we have to pay for things we don't want, could never use, and may be against. Oh, and don't forget about the cost. Mickey touched on it above. The biggest lie was that it was supposed to lower costs. Quite the opposite. People lost choice, quality, and the cost skyrocketed.
Someone once said Obamacare only works for those who don't. I think that is pretty right.
I think ObamaCare has nothing to do with healthcare, helping the poor or fixing the system it has to do with controlling human beings.
So basically after it came out, you hated it because you and others had to pay for other's problems. It was already like that with existing insurance, but this made it worse.
It is very nice for insurance companies to be able to pick and choose who they insure. You call that insurance, I call it something else.
The last sentence of your post shows you are a wingnut and while I didn't know that much about your views, it shows your a wingnut thoughts.
Yes obamacare made it much, much worse.
Dude I'm done being civil to you. You and I are never going to see eye to eye on this. You're like most liberals...it's your way and everyone else is wrong.
You are the one that did not vote for Obama in 2012 after this abortion of a bill was passed. You are the one that stated, "I've never voted for a Democrat President in my life."
So I guess you're not a complete idiot, just someone who has to think he is right while making bullshit arguments.
I'm done with you.
"abortion of a bill" Really?? :rolleyes: What kind of talk is that? WE - TAR - DEAD !!! Seriously, very lame.
Now I personally just have no opinion on the topic of abortion. Just never have. Something I just don't seem to care about. You can call me whatever name you want because of that. But I just don't care.
But for those that do, on your side, I do have a question. The right doesn't like blacks and Latinos. You might argue that is not true, but it is. They do everything in their power to stop Blacks and Latinos from advancing, even voting. :confused:
So who do you think gets the most abortions? ;) It is the Blacks and Latinos. By restricting abortions you are inadvertently bringing more blacks and Latinos into the country. And models show the majority is about to flip from whites to non-whites. Restricting or eliminating abortions only quickens that. Kind of a weird strategy. :rolleyes:
I don`t think I`ve ever seen dannyj have a cross word or an uncivil discussion on this board before today....so congratulations Cunt? (shortened your name for simplicity, hope you don`t mind)...well done
For the most part I've been Pro Trump.
Regardless if he's actually doing a good job or not I really felt like he was downplaying the Coronavirus and he is/was way too optimistic. In my opinion, he should pass off any and all questions/talk about a virus to The Experts.
Danny, he says untrue, stoopid things like that because he's a queer. They all think they can get away with doing stuff like that because if you do, they can then call you "racist!", "homophobic!", etc. and think they've offended those with higher intelligence levels than them. You're also supposed to be intimidated by that twisted behavior.
Crossed wires never win.
accountinquestion, you must really have your head up your ass. According to you anyone who is not willing to relinquish more and more of their free rights and just let the government run everything, while turning the country further, and closer into socialism is a wingnut, well I am glad we have millions of wingnuts.
KewlJ wrote in reply to dannyj
""abortion of a bill" Really?? What kind of talk is that? WE - TAR - DEAD !!! Seriously, very lame."
Bullshit KJ! Anyone who read dannyj complete post knew full well that when he used the words "abortion of a bill" was in fact talking about the shitty fucken bill itself. Not something underhanded as implied by you.
You are flat wrong that conservatives don't like blacks and latinos. This is one sick argument. Conservatives are well aware which race gets the most abortions in this country. They stand on principle not on whether the policy will bring more minorities into the country. Anti-abortion is a moral position and damn whether minorities get more abortions or not. This really shows that conservatives are not the racists they are made out to be by leftists who are the real racists in this country. Dems need a permanent underclass to keep power so they keep minorities on government handouts instead of teaching them to fend for themselves.
Here's some conservatives that you just know hate black people:
Well in reference to what this thread was originally supposed to be about, some idiot drank Fish Tank Cleaner because one of the ingredients was Chloroquine...O.O what the fuck? O.O
Excellent post Mickey! Another reason the right is not racist is because they see blacks and minorities as equal to whites. They want the same rules and standards for everyone...they don’t want people seperated out by race, with different rules and standards for each race.
Liberals (Democrats), on the other hand, see minorities as being lesser human beings; thus, liberals always want to lower the standards and requirements for minorities. This leads minorities to becoming dependent on handouts from liberals, and gives liberals the power they crave. Liberals then keep the poor and minorities down through failed government programs. Btw, liberals only help minorities and poor through taxpayer money...rarely do they do this voluntarily with their own money.
Since Democrats teach the poor and minorities they are lesser human beings and will never be able to survive without their help, the liberals (Democrats) are the real racist.
KewlJ wrote:
"But for those that do, on your side, I do have a question. The right doesn't like blacks and Latinos. You might argue that is not true, but it is. They do everything in their power to stop Blacks and Latinos from advancing, even voting."
Going back all the way to the Lyndon B Johnson presidency just what incentivization has the Democratic Party given to the blacks in America to advance and succeed? Speaking from my perspective all that I have seen the left-wing do is spoon feed an almost entire segment of our society into becoming a party loyal dependancy for many decades.
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/367/6485/1412Quote:
Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine have received intense attention because of positive results from small studies and an endorsement from President Donald Trump, who said, “I feel good about it.” The drugs decrease acidity in endosomes, compartments that cells use to ingest outside material and that some viruses co-opt during infection. But SARS-CoV- 2's main entryway is different: It uses its so-called spike protein to attach to a receptor on the surface of human cells. Studies in cell culture have suggested chloroquine can cripple the virus, but the doses needed are usually high and could cause severe toxicity. “Researchers have tried this drug on virus after virus, and it never works out in humans,” says Susanne Herold, an expert on pulmonary infections at the University of Giessen.
Results from COVID-19 patients are murky. Chinese researchers who treated more than 100 patients touted chloroquine's benefits in a letter in BioScience, but they did not publish data. And WHO says “no data has been shared” from more than 20 other COVID-19 studies in China using chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine. French microbiologist Didier Raoult and colleagues published a study of hydroxychloroquine in 20 COVID-19 patients that concluded the drug had reduced viral load in nasal swabs. (It seemed to work even better with the antibiotic azithromycin.) But the trial, reported in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents, was not randomized, and it didn't report clinical outcomes such as deaths.
Hydroxychloroquine might actually do more harm than good. It has many side effects and can, in rare cases, harm the heart—and people with heart conditions are at higher risk of severe COVID-19, says David Smith, an infectious disease physician at the University of California, San Diego. “This is a warning signal, but we still need to do the trial,” he says. There have also been reports of chloroquine poisoning in people who self-medicated.
dannyj, maybe you chose your words poorly, but you were spot on. Obomacare has abortion in it and this is one reason ZERO Republicans supported it. Some people don’t like they tax money going to killing babies. I know Democrats don’t care about this, because they have little regard for human life. All they care about is power and trying to control our lives.
The Republicans party isn't particularly racist, although very arguable with the laws that make voting harder. However, it is clearly true that racists tend to be "conservative". If you disagree, you must not have left the house in 10 years.
Now if you want to make the argument that liberals are racist because they believe in affirmative action to level the playing field for blacks due to historical considerations, then yes those liberals are racist in that regard. However, thats not really what the problem is when EVERYONE ELSE COMPLAINS ABOUT RACISM. Thats only a problem for low talent whites who get pushed out.
I used to drink in a bar and all the guys who loved Trump also used the word nigger. Well I started adopting it to, but to describe certain types of white people. 'just cuz they're not black don't mean they're not a nigger'. Needless to say, those guys didn't like me so much after that. ;) I wasn't one of them. :)
I would agree with your point if affirmative action was used as it was intended. It was put in place in the 60s (60 years ago) as a temporary fix for past transgressions. It was only supposed to last a couple years until the “playing field” was leveled.
Well now it’s 60 years later and it’s more ingrained in our society than ever before. Today it’s used more as a political device to keep the ruling Democrats in power. Minorities are told they can’t survive without handouts and lowering of standards.
We’ve spent more money on our war on poverty and affirmative action programs than anything else in our society (including our military) and all we’ve done is developed a permanently dependent under class, and this includes whites too. Our inner cities are a total mess thanks to all the Democrats government poverty programs.
Thanks Democrats and liberals! Hope it was worth it to you to ruin a whole class of people.
Bob, please tell me if I'm wrong but regarding you saying that zero Republicans supported it, if I am not mistaken I believe that the Republicans were not even present when the signing occurred? I thought that it was signed in the middle of the night behind closed doors with only one party present at the time.
Bosox, you might be right about that. I haven’t looked into it in that much detail. There was so much wrong with Obomacare I don’t know where to start. But the biggest killer to this bill was Obama and his groupies wanting to use taxpayer money for their abortions.
Yes, there are many Republicans that believe in the rights of a mother to “choose”, basically kill their unborn baby. But you won’t find any worth their salt that would ever support using government money (basically public money) to pay for this.
Abortion (killing an unborn child) is NOT a health issue. But sadly, that is the way Oboma and his groupies saw it. They believed an “unwanted” child should be put to death with public funds, since they viewed this as health problem to the mother.
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time to take a break from the world's problems and enjoy some comic relief
my 2 favorite skits from SNL when it was great back in the day:
Gilda Radner and other female cast members take security precautions against a neighborhood threat, and
Eddie Murphy does a take on Mister Rogers neighborhood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_NS2H55dxI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-3ckX-zSHw
Accountingquestion, if you want to know why the Republican Party wants to make it harder to vote it’s because they are tired of all the dead people, multiple voters and illegal aliens stuffing the balllet box for Democrats. These are three big voting blocks for the Democratic Party. If you think I’m joking search dead people voting in Chicago. This is a big problem there and they almost always vote for Democrats...surprise, surprise. I guess the liberal message resonates with dead people. Lol
The reason the Democrats want to make it easier and easier to vote is so there will be more voter fraud. More voter fraud gives Democrats a better chance of winning. Democrats have a hard time playing by the rules.
Destination: New Jonestown.
Our Leader: Donald Trump, Chloroquine scam-doctor.
Slogan: "The cure is worse than the disease."
Your driver: RV Singer.
Tour guide: Crazy Crimm.
Ticket puncher: AR-45 Monet.
Bartender: Bozo.
Cost of Admission: Your brains.
Come join us, get that "I have a good feeling about this," feeling for yourself.
Not bad for a liberal. I can tell you have a sense of humor. That’s rare for a liberal.
Anybody can criticize and play Monday morning qb. What do you recommend? Everybody get in a bunker for the next two years, and come up every so often to fire off a doomsday prediction like Kj?
Hey Bob, you really cannot blame KJ for having doomsday predictions considering him having other possible probabilities that you yourself do not have. Like for instance, KJ hitting on some foreign college student from a third world country who ends up throwing him off a 20 story building, while thinking that's how it is done in his country.
Half Smoke, I think that I recognize you from the norm's site as Wave am I right?
It's patronizing to claim that voter registration laws suppress minority votes. Is requiring that information on a voter registration application match a driver’s license, state ID card or Social Security record minority suppression? Is this a real or a straw man argument? Sure there is a minuscule fractional percentage of eligible Americans who don't have a DL, ID card or SS record and didn't vote in the last cycle and suddenly want to and cannot. Okay. I'd be all for using public funds to pick them up, get them properly registered, and take them so they can vote. No problem as long as they're eligible Americans. That seems like more of an elderly issue than a minority one.
It should be easy to vote but HARD to cheat.
I believe that large percentages of miniorities do not vote because of many lifetime gererational familys being on the public dole. They know no other way and it is now and forever an expectation that is taken for granted regardless of the political party victory.
dannyj, don't worry about the elderly voters they always find a way to vote.
Good point, but if wasn’t easy to cheat Democrats wouldn’t win many elections. That was a joke. Democrats don’t need to worry because they always have the mainstream press pulling for them.
I read where one year 60,000 dead people in Chicago voted, and they almost all voted for Democrats. Are Democrats holding rallies in cemeteries I’m not aware of? Lol. Maybe Republicans need to start going after this voting block.
Wait! The short circuit in kew's noggin only allows his type to preachT-O-L-E-R-A-N-C-E, D-I-V-E-R-S-I-T-Y and I-N-C-L-U-S-I-O-N, because they definitely don't practice it. If you don't agree with his lifestyle, politics, gambling approach or internet forum charade, he has a zero tolerance policy.
If somebody's gonna throw him off a building where do I get tickets? I wanna watch as he converts his dress into a parachute and sticks the landing like Tinkerbell.
This virus disproportionately kills males and older people. Basically the demographics of Fox News viewers.
Is it really any surprise God has created a virus to rid us of these bitter, old hateful people? Good riddance BoSox and Singer....drop us a line from hell, you bitter, ancient fossils.
Liberals are funny, they want to take away the guns but they will fight tooth and nail so a Rap Group can sing a song about Fuck Tha Police.
(Personally, I don't like the Police or Government Control either which is why the populace should be allowed to arm themselves.)
They even decided to make a movie about it and praise how great it/they were.
You know the guy who decided to say Fuck Tha Police and after that became a Television Cop.
Ice Cube and his boys N.W.A which stands for Niggas With Attitude.
Ice Cube will swarm
On any motherfucker in a blue uniform
Just 'cause I'm from the CPT
Punk police are afraid of me!
Huh, a young nigga on the warpath
And when I'm finished, it's gonna be a bloodbath
Of cops, dyin' in L.A.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADdpLv3RDhA
Of course he would not get hurt he would use his magic umbrella like Mary Poppins.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?v...electedIndex=9
Well, I thought, a bit later on, that I should have included,
Your investigative reporter: Andrew G., aka Alan Mendelson, experience with dead bodies.
Ride-along: Pesky Redietz.
Theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8WMGBuNaus
Not a single thing said is true. My partner didn't die of aids, No one has infected blood. I don't have a bad heart. You a just a complete liar, and not just about these statements but nearly everything you say and claim. And that is why polls on this forum show that no one and I mean no one believes a word that you utter. You are a joke and you are viewed by everyone as a joke. How pathetic.
And here is something else: you repeatedly bring up aids because you are so damn dumb, you think aids is some kind of gay disease or plague. The huge majority of people who died of aids were your people....the black Africans that you are descended from. You are such a friggin idiot and low life.
KewlJ, you have not figured it out yet that every time when Rob gets to you and then you get all worked up and emotional results in Rob's penis to function properly for days to which he and his wife thank you for.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0l3d...&start_radio=1
The second biggest issue with a serial liar is denial. That is the person who calls himself kew.
And YES, I get all lathered up watching him lose it, time & time again :)
I just read that hydroxychloroquine is being rationed by wholesalers. I also read that 250 million doses will be manufactured in April. I think April 15 is projected to be the peak of the epidemic in the U.S.
I still haven't read that it works.
BTW, how to know who hit which jackpots, going from just the pictures? Just curious.
https://pos.org/whos-watching-a-look...nnel-watchers/
Looks like the viewers at msnbc are just as old, in fact older....
Well, apparently, this whole Chloroquine bit is based on the fact that Africans have fewer cases of the virus. The governor of New York, and others "think" that this has to do with the amount of Chloroquine they take, over there in Africa.
No, it has to do with a study the french made of 80 people with the coronavirus. 79 lived 1 died after taking the drug. And a doctor in New York claims he has treated 700 people with it with no deaths. People are also giving testimony that they were near death, given the drug, and quickly recovered.
Doctors and nurses everywhere are taking it as a propylactic which has caused some shortages.
Well, but, I was just wondering where they got the idea to use Chloroquine.
I guess, like Redietz, I find the overly optimistic stuff startling. I'm beginning to think that there will never be a vaccine for this. Yesterday, I saw a doctor talking how hard it is to put out any decent flu-shot, each year.
I really doubt that, "Doctors and nurses everywhere are taking it as a prophylactic, which has caused some shortages." Will be interesting to see what everyone says if Chloroquine doesn't pan out here, either.
Say, give me your Chloroquine, or give me your life. Ha, the new hold-up line.
A couple of governors banned the prescription of the drug unless it were in a hospital. They did it to protect the supply from doctors prescribing it to themselves, family and friends when they arent't even sick.
Who cares what people say if it doesn't pan out. Under Trump you have the right to try it. If you felt you were slowly drowning from your lungs filling up with fluid and knew the end was pretty near would you ask the docs to give it to you?
One of the things that chloroquine does is it raises the PH levels. This kills the parasites that carry malaria. It may be that this is what provides any benefit against the covid-19 coronavirus. It may be that the virus can't reproduce as well (or at all) in higher PH levels. If that is the case a cheap and easily available alternative is alkaline water and/or drops that increase PH levels.
I only drink alkaline water anyway, enhanced by PH drops, as my doctor recommended it to lessen my acid reflux.
The people who genuinely need this drug for malaria, bad arthritis, etc, won't be so able to get it.
But........ I don't want to get into the hem-haw business. I mean, the truth is the truth. It doesn't matter what you say to the dead, and dying. It's how we treat each other in life that matters.
There are some doctors talking about these drugs, at the end of this article.
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipelin...roquine-trials
Well, reading now about there not yet being a vaccine for the original SARS virus. That a vaccine could be years away for this one, SARS-2. And, that the deadly to some, but unknowing effects to most, of this virus is what makes it so prolific, so hard to ultimately get ahead of.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/sars/
http://www.emro.who.int/health-topic...d-answers.html
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...accine/607000/
Lamestream media now singing different tune:
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrU...XTG0bJbPlWUD0-