44. Waste your time arguing with systems players.
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44. Waste your time arguing with systems players.
45. Risking $302 to win 1 extra dollar waiting for a progressive to flip from $2301.99 to 2302.01
And, here's one for manic old Monet. It came up in another of my random, anagram solutions, over at the numerology forum. As crazy as that bunch is, well, it's like the beginning of the gambling forums all over, again. Lots of fresh "blood", and ideas. Now I wonder that it, too, over the years, will devolve into something sub-human.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVx8...30934&index=24
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46. You play the -EV Machine after the Casino takes your Players Card away.
47. You play past your Free Play when you are not supposed to.
48. You leave the 105% Return VP Machine to go play Dice!
You post about your 1.5 million dollar Newell RV when it is really a 10k Winnie pull behind sitting in your...make that your daughter's driveway.
Your vacation is camping in a Winnebago Minnie in the casino parking lot.
You write a weekly column (for free) for a gambling newspaper and self-publish books on video poker play, at the same time you are fighting off bankruptcies and evictions.
You have difficulty deciding whether to watch your child perform in her first school play or take advantage of "double points day" at the casino.
You move to Las Vegas because "that's where the action is."
An attractive woman flirts with you and, although you are single and available you ignore her as you'd rather not stop gambling to talk to her.
You keep thinking over and over and over that "I'll hit the jackpot this next spin, just watch ..."
Yes, very good catch by the both of you.
I purposely put the Z, in the name, this time because I was talking about something specific that happened years ago with that Famous Bastard you all know.
You know, the guy who likes to go to Harrah's for all those free appetizers lol.
That is no excuse for not staying consistent though.
By the way some of these things, AP's do as well.
I moved to Vegas because that is where my job or work is. Many other AP's do as well, especially the machine guys who play frequently. It is pretty normal to move fairly close to where you work. You did say "action" so maybe that differentiates.
Also, it is not like you daughter is going to be the next Meryl Streep, so if it is frying pan giveaway day....too bad kid.
And in defense of Alan, there are about 120,000 weddings performed in Vegas each year, not necessarily at a craps table, but you know. Hey I was married by Elvis and I maintain it was the real Elvis. Also good that Alan recalls his marriage. So many Vegas weddings the people have no recollection the next day. Shades of Hangover movie.
You guys are mean.
You have Weaponized this thread to jab at your rivals instead of making fun of your own personal degenerative behavior.
I'm disappointed.
On the upside, it does appear that everyone can come together to post without constant name calling.
49). You are looking at this thread and not the Super Bowl.
50. You spend FOUR days Gambling in the Casino without going home even once. You use baby wipes to wash up in the Casinos bathroom and use baby wipes on your teeth and tongue. You fall asleep at the Table Games. Even the Casino Staff seems to feel sorry for you and beg you to go home for your own good. You steal money from your Clients to go Gamble and lose your once very bright Lawyering Career and sue the Casinos and lose.
You piss your pants while sitting in front of your favorite slot machine rather than go to the bathroom and run the risk that someone will take your place at your machine.
Guy standing next to you keels over at a craps table and you continue to play rather than stop to help him.
No wonder that you guys missed Red so much.
Any good Super Bowl predictions?
No, he meant for next year.
I predict it will be the Washington Venal Crooks vs. the Kansas City Cow Killers (love those new, descriptive PC team names now that references to Indians are taboo).
As was I, Monet: I discussed "next year" i.e. 2022.Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Reading comprehension is obviously not your forte.
I suggest you reach to your night table and pick up and reread "The Cat In The Hat" to sharpen that dull mind of yours.
53. You actually watch the Super Bowl Commercials, Pre-Game Show and Half Time Show.
Lord, you two are a couple of dumb bunnies, LOL.
The only thing he clarified was the depth of his stupidity.
I'll lay it out for you since you two birds rival the dodo bird.
Tableplay predicted TODAY, after the SB occurred, that TB will beat KC.
Now either he has a time machine, or is an idiot, or is talking about the coming SB in 2022.
I assumed he was rational and not a clueless dolt and was talking about the game a year from now, which is what I said.
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54. Starting a flame war on a gambling forum when you're clearly over-matched by your opponent.
Running on to the field during the superbowl. I don't know if it makes you a degenerate gambler, but you have some issue. Monet, was this you?
But really....listen to the announcers call of this. "Pull up your pants, take off the bra and be a man!" ;)
https://twitter.com/i/status/1358611559229124610
"Pull up your pants, take off the bra and be a man!"
I suspect half the bettors were muttering those same words in the direction of Mahomes yesterday.
Stank ... on ... ice ...
When you jack-off to a picture of your latest jackpot.
56- When a former " famous" journalist, interviews a former " famous" vp comedian and post a half dozen LOL YouTube videos.
57. You masturbate to other peoples jackpot pictures because you don't have any.
58.
Your retirement hobby is harassing AP’s on gambling forums.
59. You read Redietz's Blog
60. You pay Redietz for Sports Picks
61. You went to all the Seminars and Boot Camps
999. You're a degenerate anything, if you can't laugh at yourself, and, well, leave and let the world a bit sillier than you found it. On the other hand, as well, if you find any of this particular subject matter truly funny.
#62 You wake up in the morning hoping to find and read any new post on the site even if it was made by Garnabby.
63. You make a post in this thread after this one I post here.
#64 You decide to tackle a small home plumbing job that turns into an all-day affair, where a plumber would have finished the job in 20% of the time for a cost between $400 and $500. The next day you head to the casino and in about two hours lose $5k. Later when you're back at home you call your best friend and tell him about the two-day story. His reply is why did you not hire the plumber in the first place? And you respond with do you think that money grows on trees? Of course, he says how can you say that with the following casino loss. You quickly respond with oh that is a small negative blip in the road, not to be taken seriously. The math will take care of itself.
You lie, cheat, con, and steal to feed your fat gf and fat kids.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLatD3RDJ7U
You wonder which one Mickey Crim is.
Nope. I stopped posting a lot on here when the Forum became Mdawg, Darkoz, Kewlj, and Axelwolf all brawling with each other within like 7 THREADS. I wasn't really having fun when those four started having straight up Wars with each other. I found it sad, off putting, and pathetic. This also coincided around the time I decided to stop being Trollish so there's that too.
It's awfully telling when the only two regular posters who seem to get along are, supposedly, the two that everyone else ignores.
#65 You take a bunch of matches and other swag from casinos to "prove" to yourself that you aren't "really" a loser.
#66 You name your dog "Lucky."
#67 You sit down to play at a ten dollar table at 6 AM, three hours later the table goes up to $15 minimum but you are grandfathered in at ten dollars. Moving it along you lose all track of time and are still locked in at ten dollars at 1 AM only now the table minimum is $50. Time continues to jump by and all of a sudden you say to yourself that you better keep this seat or I will have to leave. Surprisingly you take a look around and astonishingly see all of the tables are now ten dollars minimums and you finally notice it is 6 AM again.
This is much bigger, or maybe smaller would be more accurate than being about a degenerate gambler and or so called "loser". I have no problem with degenerate gamblers. Obviously the thinking in the AP community is their existence is good for us. If you enjoy gambling, are realistic about it and know that what you are doing is -EV and a long term losing deal, but enjoy winning from time to time, maybe even a "big jackpot type" win from time to time, nothing wrong with that. Well unless it lead you to an place that you can't control. I myself am a bit of a degenerate gambler when it comes to sports betting. I know it is a losing proposition (in the longrun) and my results bare that out. To me it is my entertainment, no different and less than the cost of seeing a movie every week or so.
But what we have here isn't really about degenerate gambling. It is something else entirely. This is a gambling related forum, as is WoV. And you have people that come to share their gambling related experiences. Some are losing -EV players that enjoy that. Some are +EV advantage players playing recreationally. A few are +EV, advantage players playing professionally, supporting themselves from their play. Nobody is asked to prove anything. No one should care. We all can decide for ourselves who is credible and who isn't.
The really weird thing to me is we have not one but two people who have shared their "claims" and been thoroughly rejected by the community and members on both forums as not credible. I am speaking of the people that post as Rob Singer and MDawg. For these two people it goes far beyond anything we are talking about. It is some sort of insecurity that we haven't seen since Napoleon's day. These two are so unhappy with their place in the world, their choices and how thing turned out, that they continually scream that their 3 inch penis, is 9 inches. It is unbelievable! And what is even more stunning is the "lengths" (<- pun intended) they go to to try to gain that admiration that they so desperately seek.
One guy created phony pictures in RV's that he did not own, phony receipts and phony ad of said RV for sale (and then having been sold before anyone could see for themselves). The other posts pictures of high end suites, piles of cash and chips, watches that there is no reason to believe they own. All to build themselves up on a message board forum to seek admiration from strangers. I mean really...how sick is this? Most of us say what we have to say. You can believe or not believe as you see fit. It's not going to change our lives.
One final remarkable thing about these two: They have each called each other out as a phony at one point or another. How precious is that? :cool:
Another long post that only an idiot could write, and, an even bigger idiot could read.
On a side note to the above quote, when you finally head to the cage the mystery is solved on why the table had to have the pink chip rack filled three or four times. The cage person does say yes I do have an empty chip tray just how many of those do you have? About $250 while saying to myself I am not giving you one either.
I am talking about the early to mid-1980s lone experience.
Sure, these meat puppets could be insecure and use forums to build themselves up psychologically, but I suspect the reality is a bit ... darker.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I think they're both dyed in the wool masochists with delusions of grandeur, and their posts satisfy two whacko needs at once.
Of course the brags and lies make them feel important and successful, yet simultaneously with this comes the scorn and abuse hurled their way by the swinging dicks that see through their bullshit.
These two fools are probably blissfully unaware that the excitement they experience when reading the harsh criticism leveled against them is caused by deeply rooted masochistic tendencies.
Oh, the pain, the sweet pain, it hurts so good ...
Then again, they could just be a couple of jerkwads playing the rest of us for fools.
Ah, but I'm not some idiot trying to be some serious narcissistic or other know-it-all on a gambling forum full of knuckleheads.
The joy of having fun with silly posts is that the worst they can do is, well, call 'em silly. Ha.
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319 ----> Hey, I think that I, just, "predicted" the Super Bowl score.
68. You think about betting one of Monet's puck line parlay picks when walking by the sports book.
Who cares? What does matter is that, I guess, neither could you win a single point, against me, without your trying to thus garble something.
The Herr Dictator of the numerology site banned me because I made a jackass of him there. He claimed that he predicted the exact score of the Super Bowl. In a removed sense, well, he did. In actuality, the "prediction" was based on a childishly stupid error in his very own calculations. I mean, he's been at it for five years, almost every day, with blogs and you-tube appearances about his "famous" numerological numerals. Like gamblers, and atheists, I guess, numerologists instinctively think that they are scientists, too.
Problem is that his "prediction" went by integers to do with calendar date-distance calculations. But, as with such common-year calculations, too, those aren't meant to, ever, be anything more than, at the integer level, quite rough or approximate calculations.
Calendars, which and whose -ever, are just man-made convenient constructs of time, for the masses (of dimwits) to chart time in an approximate sense. Believe it, or not, to claim that someone is so many years (and zero months & zero days) old on a birthday is next to never the case. Note that a year is about 365.242189 days long.
So, the guy's big "reveal", about the Super Bowl, turned out to be only of his very own epic long-term stupidity.
69. After laughing about the thought of betting one of Monet's puck line picks. You turn around and make the bet because you get a better price than Monet posted.
70. The voices in your head told you to bet 1,088 dollars on Toronto and Tampa and you listened to them.
All different types of gamblers have different levels of affordability. What 100.00 dollars is to one person is what 1,000.00 dollars is to someone else, and on and on.
When people like me talk about losing money I could afford and having a good time doing it, the alleged AP’s are all over me for playing negative games. I’m a fucking idiot for not moving close to casinos and spending my life in them. It’s hard to believe anyone would think my wife and I would actually wait for special bonus days or promotions to pound coin in.
But when members like Kewlj post losing money I assume they could afford for entertainment, all is well.
Even Dan Druff posting years of losing money with his picks. It’s okay I guess because he owns the site.
The hypocrisy on this site is second to none. Only AP’s could lose money for fun. Can’t make this shit up.
Kewlj, you're not fooling anyone. We know you read this post and all the other alleged people you claim to ignore. Keep pretending your hiding like the yellow bitch you really are.
You may try to ignore the fact all you want, but, like alcohol, weed, and so on, well, no matter the dosage, the person, etc, there just is no (general or casual) up-side. Specifically, there is no right amount to bet at a casino.
Funny people come to the internet to argue and ignore because they can no longer convince even themselves of such things.
Someone who is content and satisfied with themselves would not even waste time thinking about what others have to say about them. I believe kewlJ, does not care in the least, why do you? Both of you pay your own bills so why be bothered with internet bullshit "that it does seem obvious that this bothers you in your case"?
Here I am pointing out AP hypocrisy on a gambling forum that I read and post on often. Sure enough with the same certainty the sun will rise tomorrow morning, one of the forum clever fools will step to the plate and post some type of nonsense why anyone should care what others say about them.
Well BO BO the answer is simple. When it’s full-blown bullshit about and concerning me a member of this forum, or the stupid bullshit point you tried to make I fucking care idiot.
I don’t take shit from anyone especially clowns like you BO BO.
In a sense, kewlJ and blackhole are agreeing with each other here. For kewlJ, his sports betting is a negative expectation break from what he does for a living. For blackhole, all of his gambling is a negative expectation break from what he does or did for a living. He's earned retirement. They both do the negative expectation stuff as a break, an entertainment, a recharge, from the mental and/or social grind that earned them daily bread.
I would criticize blackhole for doing non-optimal gambling when he gambles, but I won't criticize him for the gambling itself. He might say being optimal would make it less fun, less spontaneous, more of a chore. My answer would be something like, "C'mon, man, you're blowing mucho bucks here; it wouldn't take much to be precise and at least closer to optimal." For kewlJ, if he plays parlays or parlay cards or doesn't shop for numbers, I'd say, c'mon, man, you can put in a little more effort and brains than that. I'd criticize his slovenliness, but not the fact he's betting sports as a break from the grind.
I argue this attitude in the "Defending the Army" section of this blog entry: https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...adventure.html
Recreational gamblers, at least those of us with discipline, gamble for fun, for stimulation, for escape from our daily existence and our day jobs (or retirement, whichever the case may be).
AP's gamble to earn their daily bread.
This is a big difference and understandably colors the way each looks at gambling.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but where is the "fun" in being an AP?
While certainly not an expert on different methods of AP, those I have read about do not seem to be fun: hole carding, shuffle tracking, card counting, playing with other's cards: no joy there, just a lot of hard work.
Recreational gamblers (we who are not degenerate, anyway) have already made our money and are looking for ways to spend it: gambling is one way.
To each his or her own.
It's just a waste of time, hardly enjoyable in the sense of learning something exciting and new, or, some other such activity. Basically, another bastardization of the word, recreation.
Persons who, truly, possess the skills pontificated, by the likes of Ozzy, aren't doing anything that resembles the so-called AP stuff.
This surely is great entertainment. Maybe even, recreation.
There's a heck of a lot more academic articles written about such gambling/gaming than even the idiotic stuff found on any of these forums. The recreation of being able to outstrip that of addiction, however.
Let me explain 2 things to you Blackhole. First, of course I can see some of your posts. People quote them and I see them, or sometimes I view the site on my phone, where I am not logged in, which means I see the posts from people on my ignore list. When I say I am putting someone on ignore. it just means, I can no longer be bothered with them, because they refuse to grow up and stop being a jackass. Case in point: the interaction you just had with BoSox. He didn't insult you in any way. Showed respect and treated you like an adult. You respond with name calling, proving yet again, what a small and insecure person you are.
You called me a yellow bitch. I am not running from anyone. I take far more abuse than most, and come back to fight, but there comes a point when you say "why bother". That's where I am with you and others on my ignore. You are just not worth my time. I get nothing beneficial from interacting with you...EVER.
Second thing is your so intent on trolling me, again proving your insecurity, that you don't even realize what 2 other people have tried to point out to you. You are arguing the same point. There is nothing wrong with recreational gambling, -EV gambling, as long as you are in control and it doesn't effect your life. I certainly don't think you are in that category, but I think someone on this forum, or used to be on this forum, was. That is why I made that special caveat.
Now where I do have a problem is when someone is a losing, -EV player, and wants to mislead everyone into thinking they are a winning player, making millions, or having every trip, every session, be a winning session. That I will argue, especially if I think there is anyone, even 1 single person that might be buying that crap. You will notice, I didn't say a word about EvenBobs claims at WoV. There is no one, and I mean, not a single person that is buying that and being mislead.
Blackhole, you desperately seem to want to engage with me. When I ignore you, you cry and literally beg me to respond to you as you did here. If you want me to treat you like an adult, you have got to stop with all the name calling. You are not in freaking 3rd grade. You don't have to like me or anyone else, you don't have to believe me or anyone else. You can disagree with me and others. But if all you have is to call someone names, then there is no reason for anyone to give you the time of day. Everyone will ignore you like garnaby or whatever his handle is.
The above is only two things? Well, I did read the first sentence. Couldn't help it, it had a number in it.
You cannot get away with this bullshit implication of yours that says:
AP's gamble to earn their daily bread.
Is it not possible that a successful person in life cannot also be a part-time real AP in a casino for entertainment purposes? You can't have both? Those of you who imply the highlighted above quote says this as a fact are only trying to insult someone in a disrespectful manner out of jealousy because they themselves are not AP's. Please do not lump all AP's into the same category out of hate.
This depends on the individual AP's motivations period. Once again you try to put every AP into the same boat, which could not be further from the truth.
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In real life, they are most likely toasting with a glass of prune juice.
I don't play blackjack, baccarat or any card games so a large portion of the AP menu is closed to me.
I only play certain higher limit slots and craps.
Of course there are some recreational, non-professional players who want to play with an edge: good luck figuring it out and pulling it off, but given the fact that there are no AP avenues available to me with my chosen games (slots and craps) I'll just have to pass on AP.
Well, that's not true. Mickey Crimm and others have spoken about advantage play on different slot machines. It is out of my wheel house as far as knowledge and probably math abilities, but it is definitely doable if you have an interest.
Advantage play is a mindset. Part of it, is just beating the casino at it's own game(s). Don't get me wrong....I am in it for the money. AP is how I support myself. But I do get an extra little kick of enjoyment out of beating the casinos. :)
Not to pick on you MrV, but I don't get those that say, learning to play with an advantage takes the fun out. I guess it is just me, but I don't see where it is fun to sit at a slot machine pushing a button and expecting (expectation) to lose. Same with rolling dice, or watching a little ball spin (roulette). I guess that is why I don't play those games. :cool:
Now I do AP some video poker. And along the same lines, I don't find it much fun to sit THERE and push a button over and over. I do it only because of the expectation to long-term winning.
Blackjack, I sort of like and enjoy blackjack, even after all the rounds I have played. I know a lot of people don't, even AP's say it is the most boring game. I can see that. I still enjoy it. But take the ability for me to count cards and play with an advantage, and I will never sit down at a blackjack table again.
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