Mdawg exposed. The fantasy crumbles.

As I said, I had PM'ed Mdawg on several forums during the last year, requesting that he stop the winner/winner chicken dinner narrative and just report his high roller stories, which are probably more interesting to more people without the editing out of losses. KewlJ had made the same points publicly that I did in the PMs.

Dawg and I had what I thought were some reasonable back-and-forths, including when I went to bat for him regarding GamblingForums not allowing him a TruePassage link. I suggested they just share links -- TruePassage linking GamblingForums and vice versa, which is common practice. But GamblingForums wouldn't go for it. Now understand that TruePassage had a thread devoted to and criticizing me specifically. But I went to bat for MDawg because I thought he was more right than wrong in that case. So yeah, I went with what I thought was correct even though it meant linking to a site with threads devoted to criticizing me. I stick to what I think is correct, regardless of personal consequences.

I tried to bash his psycho story-telling and not him as a person. The whole convoluted rule nonsense at WoV regarding, "Don't call anyone a liar," serves nobody but liars.

MDawg's four-forum push to sell this fake storyline was one of the worst things I've seen since that "Money Talks" sports gambling "reality show" I linked previously. It's all selling false narratives, and God knows, television and movie producers buy into and promote this garbage on a regular basis.

My only point is one I still stand behind: no one that thought MDawg was legit before now thinks he is not legit based on KJ’s threat and MDawg later posting about losses.

That’s just facts.

People that were already convinced MDawg was a fraud have become more convinced.

Full stop.

Find one person that flipped based on this and I’ll happily withdrawal the statement.

Otherwise, it’s textbook confirmation bias. On both sides.

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My only point is one I still stand behind: no one that thought MDawg was legit before now thinks he is not legit based on KJ’s threat and MDawg later posting about losses.

That’s just facts.

People that were already convinced MDawg was a fraud have become more convinced.

Full stop.

Find one person that flipped based on this and I’ll happily withdrawal the statement.

Otherwise, it’s textbook confirmation bias. On both sides.

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Other than the handful of people that speak up and that includes some that are surely afraid to on WoV, where members are suspended for 'mildly' expressing doubts, how do we know what people think?

I asked to do a poll so we would know but was denied. The hope being that a lopsided poll would show one MDawg that no one is buying his crap so he should quit.

However the same strategy didn't work here as after a poll showed no one believed Singer by a 22-1 margin, Singer just doubled and tripled down. So who the fuck knows with these guys.

Upjon, I just went back and spent a few minutes reading through you posts at WoV. You seem to be one of those people that wants to argue about the process rather than the position. One of those guys that enjoys engaging in the practice of debate. That's not what this is about for me. For me it is about the disinformation and intentionally misleading of other members and players.

This guy's intent was obvious before he even posted day 1 results of this trip. Just from the title, it was or should have been obvious to most where this was going. If he was playing it straight, reporting wins AND losses, overall losing a little or close to break even, while being comped handsomely for his high level of play it is not much of an "adventure" is it? That is the way gambling and Las Vegas works. Even if he was playing to a small advantage somehow, and he reported wins AND losses, but finished slightly ahead, still not much of an adventure is it? That is the way advantage play works and we have many advantage players at different levels on that forum. It only becomes this great adventure with all this winning, winning, winning and that just defies the math and the way Las Vegas works.

Now Mdawg is only about the attention, so his game plan is just to repeat, repeat, repeat these claims, knowing there will be push back from the math and real player sections of the forum and community. The theory from these guys is that if they repeats the claims or similar claims often enough, they become accepted as truth, and the pushback begins to wane as people get tired of doing so.

I am often very critical of Shackleford and I believe rightfully so, but one of the very good and correct decisions he made was to remove the "adventure" thread from the main board, minimizing those that could be mislead. But that only forced Mdawg to expand to other forums peddling his "story" seeking new audience while he worked to get the "adventure threat" back on the main section. And he has been working that and working Shackleford on almost a daily basis, behind the scenes since the day it was originally moved.

Remember about 2 months ago when Shackleford made the "mistake" of posting exactly what he thought about Mdawgs play, but had to retract it because it violated a NDA that he inexplicably signed? Mdawg used that as leverage to get unsuspended from a suspension he was on, plus attempted to use that to get the "adventure threat" reinstated onto the main board. Shackleford held his ground at the time. Again, kudos to Mike. He has done some things right.

A short time later, when I left the forum, Mdawg tried to use THAT to get the adventure thread reinstated, arguing that since I was no longer a member, it should be moved back to the main board. Again, kudos to Mike for not budging. But eventually this guy Mdawg just wears you down with his bullying and Mike appears to be the kind of guy that eventually just tires of it and gives in. I can't say I blame him based on the amount of nagging, bullying and manipulating that I am told Mdawg does.

So maybe as Mike gave in, in recent days, he made the agreement that he would allow the thread back IF Mdawg came clean. A couple of people close to the situation have suggested that to me. If so kudos to Mike for that. (geez, I feel like the Shackleford fan club here :rolleyes:).

I find it hard to believe that just weeks after I announced that I would at some point have access to Mdawgs records that would likely contradict his claims, this great confession came about unrelated to that. But I really don't care either way. As I said at the start for me it is about the position not the process and the position being that Mdawg admitted his reports of winning, winning, winning were fabricated is a big deal as part of this story.

Now of course he is now going to continue on, ignoring the obvious, the big confession and take us to new heights with this James Bond-ish adventure, repeating, repeating, repeating. And the numbers of those that have pushed back in the past are dwindling and some don't know what they are allowed to say or not say, so that is not good. Well I will continue to push back. I don't have to be afraid of Shackleford's rules that protect someone like Mdawg. Here and at other forums I am on with the great Mdawg, I will continue to remind members that he admitted the whole thing was a lie. THAT is my play. :cool:

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My only point is one I still stand behind: no one that thought MDawg was legit before now thinks he is not legit based on KJ’s threat and MDawg later posting about losses.

That’s just facts.

People that were already convinced MDawg was a fraud have become more convinced.

Full stop.

Find one person that flipped based on this and I’ll happily withdrawal the statement.

Otherwise, it’s textbook confirmation bias. On both sides.

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Other than the handful of people that speak up and that includes some that are surely afraid to on WoV, where members are suspended for 'mildly' expressing doubts, how do we know what people think?

I asked to do a poll so we would know but was denied. The hope being that a lopsided poll would show one MDawg that no one is buying his crap so he should quit.

However the same strategy didn't work here as after a poll showed no one believed Singer by a 22-1 margin, Singer just doubled and tripled down. So who the fuck knows with these guys.

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I was wondering why unJon was inserting "confirmation bias" into this. I had no idea where he was coming from. I don't see much relevance for confirmation bias here -- people can always retreat to echo chambers and believe what they want. The goal isn't to claim you can penetrate echo chambers. The goal is to hammer home some sense of what is objectively possible for a reasonable audience beyond any WoV population.

There's no way to measure who believes what at WoV, but at GamblingForums or TruePassage, it's pretty clear MDawg has followers who seem naive or gambling unsavvy enough to buy the narratives. There are surely posters on those sites who, if they read MDawg's confession, would see him in a completely different light.

What I was interested in doing was cutting MDawg off before he wrangled some book or script deal based on "verified by Wizard" claims.

One dude at Wov who I suspect had his mind changed -- darkOz. Or maybe darkOz will retreat to the idea that it's all a ploy to keep the super baccarat angles secret. I don't care one way or the other. I'm not big on debate teams. I'm big on journalism that debunks fraud and reports reality.

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What I was interested in doing was cutting MDawg off before he wrangled some book or script deal based on "verified by Wizard" claims.

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See I never thought Mdawgs adventure was about a book deal. There is no real money in that and it should have no appeal to a wealthy guy. But you never know, with this guys fascination with movies and stuff maybe in his alternative reality, he thought he had the making of the man who took Vegas or something.

The fact is there is very little money to be made in gambling books. It is a very limited target audience. When I had my book deal with the gambling publisher here in Vegas that I pulled out of, one of our major points of conflict was over the money. I wanted to make nothing off of telling my story and wanted a kindle or online version to be downloadable for free or $1 or $2 tops and a paper version at minimal cost, like $4.99.

He explained to me this just was not possible due to the very slim margins he was working with with such a limited target audience. There were other issues as well, but that was one of the reasons I pulled out and returned the small advance money.

You had a book deal?

What were you going to write about?

I assume it was about blackjack, but was it a strategy book, or an autobiography, or something in between?

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You had a book deal?

What were you going to write about?

I assume it was about blackjack, but was it a strategy book, or an autobiography, or something in between?

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It was going to be the adventures of a weed smoking attorney. :cool:


It was going to be my blackjack journey, quitting a crap job at age 20, playing with a starting BR of $4300, through to present day.

2 problems. 1.) I have told most of the story, at least what I can tell and share while still playing in bits and pieces along the way.

and 2.) In the past few years while GWAE has had many blackjack guests, I have come to realize my basic story is not that different from a dozen or so other players, who all started just about the same time (early 2000's), all underfunded, that have all basically had similar financial success. Maybe employing some different approaches, with some different antidotes, but same basic story. While I am proud of my journey and accomplishments, it isn't all that special among the blackjack circles. :(

As a matter of fact, when I pulled out, my spot was filled by another blackjack card counter's book. :D

That’s fine, KJ. Now that you’ve pegged “what I seem to be” you can put my posts into whatever box where you don’t pay attention to them. I made my point in my last post, and it was substantive not process related:

1) You either made a great bluff or a suboptimal non-bluff
2) What you did swayed no one not already inclined to think MDawg a fraud.

But RE Dietz is right that there’s no sense for me trying to penetrate the echo chamber you two have created here regarding MDawg. And like Mission, I don’t really care about any of it. Carry on.

ETA: RE Dietz, interesting re DarkOz. Maybe right. Let’s see how he posts about it.

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Got it. You bluffed the whole thing. Cool. Good bluff.

Why else would you suddenly panic and scramble for excuses to not take out your nemesis. ��

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I don't know that I would use the word "nemesis". But if you want to, fine.

This is a person that I (and others) found his claims so disturbing and harmful that I wanted to expose him and the truth. I HAVE DONE THAT. Are you not paying attention? The guy confessed and Shackleford revealed, that his claims over the past 7 months were a lie. What more do you want from me?

If you were to post a poll at WoV asking who believes Mdawg now, of course Shackleford would shut it down and suspend you, but if allowed to stand, such a poll would reveal that 95% do not believe this guy now. And the only reason it would not be 100% is because of Mdawg, his sock puppets and a few trolls like coach belly that will always take the contrarian position.

My work is done.

If you want to call it a bluff, call it a bluff, but the truth is I had a source that would have provided me the information needed. At this point I haven't seen the information, but suspect what it would have shown. I would have revealed what the data said and then I would have had to decide, if I wanted to publicly show any of it. But I didn't have to make that decision. Mdawg panicked and confessed and Shackleford revealed (and oddly praised) that confession.

Case over! Nothing left to reveal. If a defendant confesses to the crime there is nothing left for a prosecutor to do.

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You never realize just how full of shit you really are.....

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That’s fine, KJ. Now that you’ve pegged “what I seem to be” you can put my posts into whatever box where you don’t pay attention to them. I made my point in my last post, and it was substantive not process related:

1) You either made a great bluff or a suboptimal non-bluff
2) What you did swayed no one not already inclined to think MDawg a fraud.

But RE Dietz is right that there’s no sense for me trying to penetrate the echo chamber you two have created here regarding MDawg. And like Mission, I don’t really care about any of it. Carry on.

ETA: RE Dietz, interesting re DarkOz. Maybe right. Let’s see how he posts about it.

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Okay, unJon, I'll bite. Since, to paraphrase Captain Kirk to Picard, I was reading confirmation bias studies when you were in diapers. What exactly do you think I have wrong about the inimitable MDawg, leading me down the trail of wrong conclusions and rejection of meaningful information? I'm curious to hear this, since I've had interactions with him on four different forums and a handful of PMs with him, starting from the beginning. Seems to me I have considerably more data than you, and more experience dealing with these gambling narratives than you.

So I'm always ready to hear about what I got wrong from someone in an inferior position, unless you're not in an inferior position, which would be interesting on its own merits.

Now this is some Hilarious Slant Eyed Humor!
You stop make Bing-Bong.
Every Bing-Bong 2 Cent!
Listen Here Washee Washee!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6HE2kdj6Zc

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So before anyone gives me any shit about posting, last week I said I was going to "reduce my online presence and that allowing Moses back, as requested will help insure that I stay away". While I still intend to reduce my online presence, Moses has not been reinstated and this is toooo big to let pass. It very quietly confirmed everything about the Mdawg chronicles that us doubters had been saying for years.

So last week, Mdawg rather quietly announced 3 consecutive massive losing days playing baccarat. In contradiction to all his winning posts, he gave no specific amount other than to say 3 days of very big losses.

So yesterday, Mdawg revealed that he had recently met with Shackleford and they went over his baccarat play results for this now 7 month trip and guess what....the conclusion was that "Mdawg is about even, maybe slightly ahead or slightly behind." Those are his words!

Just to be clear, at the 60 day mark of this "story", I added up Mdawgs wins and losses as per his claims and he was I believe $324,000 ahead. Again that was at the 60 day mark. We are now well past the 100 day mark and with his wins having escalated before this big collapse, I conservatively put his win claim at half a million.

So these 3 big losing days wiped away those 100's of days of winning, some half a million dollars. Wait! That is just the way a progression system always works! The math guarantees it! Sadly those of us that have been saying that for 7 months were made to look the bad guys and driven from the forum.


Now isn't it a coincidence and a mighty big one, that two weeks ago after Cosmo was sold, I announced that I would soon be able to get a hold of this Mdawg persons records and we would just see if reality matched the Mdawg fantasy claims (what I call scam) and presto, all of the sudden, 3 days of massive losses magically put the fantasy claims back in line with reality. Well I don't believe in Magic or co-incidences THAT big and I sure as hell don't believe in this fantasy.

And that reality is and always was, Mdawg is a high end player, someone I would refer to as a whale, although not sure the official money/play requirements of that. He plays a negative expectation game and loses. Maybe loss rebates and special promotion chips afforded such a high end player, enabled his play to be close to even, but overall he loses, just as expected and he is comped accordingly for his losses. Just as I have said a million times. That friends is the way Las Vegas works. Not all this win, win, win, high end comps, "Mdawg is the greatest player ever", "Las Vegas doesn't care about players winning millions" complete bullshit that we have been fed for 7 months.

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I'm a little confused about what's going on here, I guess there are multiple forums you have to read in order to put all the puzzle pieces together. I guess my first question would be: Why did The Wizard meet up with him and go over all of his wins and losses? Find that just strange of why that would happen in the first place. I'm wondering if that Meetup was scheduled to happen before a sudden influx of big losses.

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Cheers to AlexWolf for his milestone 20k post at his old pal Rusty's house. It's very thoughtful of you to dedicate your unique achievement to your high integrity/ high moral buddy who's doing a wonderful job over their. Here's to another 20k Alex !..............If it survives that long.

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Talk about a 180. AlexWolf might be setting a record, for the least amount of posts in 46 months, for a high profile/well known forum veteran, over at PFA. He has an astonishing 2 POSTS SINCE JAN/2018 ROFLMFAO !!. It can't be because of the abuse you got from Sah 24 and a few others, for your first post. You have thicker skin then that. What gives Alex ? 20k posts at Rusty's, 2k here and 2 whoppers at PFA.....Hilarious !

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“Let me clarify that the word "confession" may have given the wrong idea. I do not mean to imply Mdawg was being dishonest before.”

Sounds like the old legal threats came out from MDawg again. Naturally using the signed agreement as perfectly legal cover. Now if anyone could just explain to me why he would sign such a thing.

Other than a decent amount of money or someone having compromising pictures, it doesn’t make sense to a layman like myself.

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“Let me clarify that the word "confession" may have given the wrong idea. I do not mean to imply Mdawg was being dishonest before.”

Sounds like the old legal threats came out from MDawg again. Naturally using the signed agreement as perfectly legal cover. Now if anyone could just explain to me why he would sign such a thing.

Other than a decent amount of money or someone having compromising pictures, it doesn’t make sense to a layman like myself.

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Who knows and who cares? What is known is that MDog owns the Wizard. Why continue to even read that nonsense? Dog doesn't post here because Druff isn't playing like that and he knows no one here buys his bullshit.

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“Let me clarify that the word "confession" may have given the wrong idea. I do not mean to imply Mdawg was being dishonest before.”

Sounds like the old legal threats came out from MDawg again. Naturally using the signed agreement as perfectly legal cover. Now if anyone could just explain to me why he would sign such a thing.

Other than a decent amount of money or someone having compromising pictures, it doesn’t make sense to a layman like myself.

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Who knows and who cares? What is known is that MDog owns the Wizard. Why continue to even read that nonsense? Dog doesn't post here because Druff isn't playing like that and he knows no one here buys his bullshit.

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Kewlj does, Kewlj cares quite a bit, we know that

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YES, I do. BUT I recognize that most of you here don't. So out of respect for that, I will try to tone it down a bit.

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So Mdawg posts for 7 months that he won 102 of 107 days/sessions, totaling over $500,000. Under Shackleford's supervision, Mdawg and Shackleford go over Mdawgs records and announce that Mdawg is not $500k ahead, but about even, maybe slightly ahead or slightly behind. Shackleford first praises this "confession". And then Today, Shackleford wants to clarify that at no time Mdawg was being dishonest. Claim: $500,000. Actual ZERO. Nothing dishonest about that.

I wonder how much Shackleford got paid for this "interpretation"?

Ok that's all for today as I try to give you guys a break. Heading out for a beautiful day on the Boulder City/Lake Mead bike trails.

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Kewlj does, Kewlj cares quite a bit, we know that

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YES, I do. BUT I recognize that most of you here don't. So out of respect for that, I will try to tone it down a bit.

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“Let me clarify that the word "confession" may have given the wrong idea. I do not mean to imply Mdawg was being dishonest before.”

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So Mdawg posts for 7 months that he won 102 of 107 days/sessions, totaling over $500,000. Under Shackleford's supervision, Mdawg and Shackleford go over Mdawgs records and announce that Mdawg is not $500k ahead, but about even, maybe slightly ahead or slightly behind. Shackleford first praises this "confession". And then Today, Shackleford wants to clarify that at no time Mdawg was being dishonest. Claim: $500,000. Actual ZERO. Nothing dishonest about that.

I wonder how much Shackleford got paid for this "interpretation"?

Ok that's all for today as I try to give you guys a break. Heading out for a beautiful day on the Boulder City/Lake Mead bike trails.

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What an idiot. As your entire life again gets shaken like a tumbling house of cards by none other than Shack and the dawg, you take your pussified self, in the heat of the moment, out of the picture supposedly on some fairy bicycle ride that could be better stated as a suicide run at this point.

Then there's that phony story of some MGM big shot who would gladly hand over MDawg's gaming diary and results to you....which is YOUR reason for forcing dawg to finally "fess up to lying about winning". He must've been quaking in his boots, while Shack had anxiety attacks. :) None of what you ever say is true. Remember your faked death? Do you recall big-mouthing about being able to count 2 tables simultaneously then when Alan asks to meet up and film you doing it, you run away scared to death? And who can forget all your lying about my Newell and how you'd come over to see and verify it at a moment's notice....that is, until I give you an address to meet up and you instantly hide away like the loser you truly are.

Bbbbut....you've got redietz who tries so hard to believe all your bs, likely because he's light in the loafers himself.

You are blessed.

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What an idiot. As your entire life again gets shaken like a tumbling house of cards by none other than Shack and the dawg, you take your pussified self, in the heat of the moment, out of the picture supposedly on some fairy bicycle ride that could be better stated as a suicide run at this point.

Then there's that phony story of some MGM big shot who would gladly hand over MDawg's gaming diary and results to you....which is YOUR reason for forcing dawg to finally "fess up to lying about winning". He must've been quaking in his boots, while Shack had anxiety attacks. :) None of what you ever say is true. Remember your faked death? Do you recall big-mouthing about being able to count 2 tables simultaneously then when Alan asks to meet up and film you doing it, you run away scared to death? And who can forget all your lying about my Newell and how you'd come over to see and verify it at a moment's notice....that is, until I give you an address to meet up and you instantly hide away like the loser you truly are.

Bbbbut....you've got redietz who tries so hard to believe all your bs, likely because he's light in the loafers himself.

You are blessed.

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“Let me clarify that the word "confession" may have given the wrong idea. I do not mean to imply Mdawg was being dishonest before.”

Sounds like the old legal threats came out from MDawg again. Naturally using the signed agreement as perfectly legal cover. Now if anyone could just explain to me why he would sign such a thing.

Other than a decent amount of money or someone having compromising pictures, it doesn’t make sense to a layman like myself.

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Actually I think there is a reason to care about the damage done to WoV by douchedawg.

The site had seen better days before he started braying like a jackass with his schlong caught in barbed wire, but it has tumbled inexorably toward the pit of despond since then.

Valuable posters have left in disgust; few new posters join; and worst of all douchedawg has made the wiz look like an open-mouthed rube who just got conned at three card monte.

Shack doesnt care. He got his payday and is happy.

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That’s fine, KJ. Now that you’ve pegged “what I seem to be” you can put my posts into whatever box where you don’t pay attention to them. I made my point in my last post, and it was substantive not process related:

1) You either made a great bluff or a suboptimal non-bluff
2) What you did swayed no one not already inclined to think MDawg a fraud.

But RE Dietz is right that there’s no sense for me trying to penetrate the echo chamber you two have created here regarding MDawg. And like Mission, I don’t really care about any of it. Carry on.

ETA: RE Dietz, interesting re DarkOz. Maybe right. Let’s see how he posts about it.

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Okay, unJon, I'll bite. Since, to paraphrase Captain Kirk to Picard, I was reading confirmation bias studies when you were in diapers. What exactly do you think I have wrong about the inimitable MDawg, leading me down the trail of wrong conclusions and rejection of meaningful information? I'm curious to hear this, since I've had interactions with him on four different forums and a handful of PMs with him, starting from the beginning. Seems to me I have considerably more data than you, and more experience dealing with these gambling narratives than you.

So I'm always ready to hear about what I got wrong from someone in an inferior position, unless you're not in an inferior position, which would be interesting on its own merits.

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Nice baiting! Not gonna bite. My conclusions are in 1) and 2) above. And my assertion is your disagreement with those conclusions is a result of confirmation bias.

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My friends, do not fear that WOV (or is it WOO?) will die!

When these forums fall - Dan Druff will raise them from the dead and operate them at a loss.

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LOL. Depending on your generation, some people had posters of Farah Fawcett on their wall, or Cindy Crawford, or Megan Fox. I suspect account had a big poster of Ferengi.

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Not sure what a Ferengi is but pretty sure it is a Star Trek reference. I was going to let this slide, but it is funny that you see a big time antisocial troll to be the same kid as the one who had Star Trek posters. I don't believe thats how the world works, but we all develop our own models, eh. Your takes are very hot and cold.

I did have a Xena Warrior Princess poster at one point but I was in my 20s by then.

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That’s fine, KJ. Now that you’ve pegged “what I seem to be” you can put my posts into whatever box where you don’t pay attention to them. I made my point in my last post, and it was substantive not process related:

1) You either made a great bluff or a suboptimal non-bluff
2) What you did swayed no one not already inclined to think MDawg a fraud.

But RE Dietz is right that there’s no sense for me trying to penetrate the echo chamber you two have created here regarding MDawg. And like Mission, I don’t really care about any of it. Carry on.

ETA: RE Dietz, interesting re DarkOz. Maybe right. Let’s see how he posts about it.

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Okay, unJon, I'll bite. Since, to paraphrase Captain Kirk to Picard, I was reading confirmation bias studies when you were in diapers. What exactly do you think I have wrong about the inimitable MDawg, leading me down the trail of wrong conclusions and rejection of meaningful information? I'm curious to hear this, since I've had interactions with him on four different forums and a handful of PMs with him, starting from the beginning. Seems to me I have considerably more data than you, and more experience dealing with these gambling narratives than you.

So I'm always ready to hear about what I got wrong from someone in an inferior position, unless you're not in an inferior position, which would be interesting on its own merits.

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Nice baiting! Not gonna bite. My conclusions are in 1) and 2) above. And my assertion is your disagreement with those conclusions is a result of confirmation bias.

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I have doubts if you understand what confirmation bias is. There's a decent old essay called, "Scientists, Gamblers, and Magicians: Allies Against the Irrational" that was published in The Humanist in 1982 or thereabouts. You should probably check it out.

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LOL. Depending on your generation, some people had posters of Farah Fawcett on their wall, or Cindy Crawford, or Megan Fox. I suspect account had a big poster of Ferengi.

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Not sure what a Ferengi is but pretty sure it is a Star Trek reference. I was going to let this slide, but it is funny that you see a big time antisocial troll to be the same kid as the one who had Star Trek posters. I don't believe thats how the world works, but we all develop our own models, eh. Your takes are very hot and cold.

I did have a Xena Warrior Princess poster at one point but I was in my 20s by then.

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The Ferengi, according to wikipedia, were depicted as hyper-capitalistic, focused on the acquisition of profit as the highest goal. They also loved to have their ears rubbed.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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LOL. Depending on your generation, some people had posters of Farah Fawcett on their wall, or Cindy Crawford, or Megan Fox. I suspect account had a big poster of Ferengi.

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Not sure what a Ferengi is but pretty sure it is a Star Trek reference. I was going to let this slide, but it is funny that you see a big time antisocial troll to be the same kid as the one who had Star Trek posters. I don't believe thats how the world works, but we all develop our own models, eh. Your takes are very hot and cold.

I did have a Xena Warrior Princess poster at one point but I was in my 20s by then.

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The Ferengi, according to wikipedia, were depicted as hyper-capitalistic, focused on the acquisition of profit as the highest goal. They also loved to have their ears rubbed.

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Ears?

Pshaw.

I can think of another body part I'd rather have rubbed, but I suppose that would have been too racy for TV.

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Okay, unJon, I'll bite. Since, to paraphrase Captain Kirk to Picard, I was reading confirmation bias studies when you were in diapers. What exactly do you think I have wrong about the inimitable MDawg, leading me down the trail of wrong conclusions and rejection of meaningful information? I'm curious to hear this, since I've had interactions with him on four different forums and a handful of PMs with him, starting from the beginning. Seems to me I have considerably more data than you, and more experience dealing with these gambling narratives than you.

So I'm always ready to hear about what I got wrong from someone in an inferior position, unless you're not in an inferior position, which would be interesting on its own merits.

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Nice baiting! Not gonna bite. My conclusions are in 1) and 2) above. And my assertion is your disagreement with those conclusions is a result of confirmation bias.

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I have doubts if you understand what confirmation bias is. There's a decent old essay called, "Scientists, Gamblers, and Magicians: Allies Against the Irrational" that was published in The Humanist in 1982 or thereabouts. You should probably check it out.

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Lol. Now you are just being childish. Don’t let your insecurities drive you so much.

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LOL. Depending on your generation, some people had posters of Farah Fawcett on their wall, or Cindy Crawford, or Megan Fox. I suspect account had a big poster of Ferengi.

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Not sure what a Ferengi is but pretty sure it is a Star Trek reference. I was going to let this slide, but it is funny that you see a big time antisocial troll to be the same kid as the one who had Star Trek posters. I don't believe thats how the world works, but we all develop our own models, eh. Your takes are very hot and cold.

I did have a Xena Warrior Princess poster at one point but I was in my 20s by then.

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The Ferengi, according to wikipedia, were depicted as hyper-capitalistic, focused on the acquisition of profit as the highest goal. They also loved to have their ears rubbed.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

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lol

I wish I had been pursuing money most of my life and had been disciplined so I could be actually rich instead of just redneck rich. Which is fine in this country ...

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So yesterday, Mdawg revealed that he had recently met with Shackleford and they went over his baccarat play results for this now 7 month trip and guess what....the conclusion was that "Mdawg is about even, maybe slightly ahead or slightly behind." Those are his words!

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Can you please provide a link to where MDawg said this?

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Not sure what a Ferengi is but pretty sure it is a Star Trek reference. I was going to let this slide, but it is funny that you see a big time antisocial troll to be the same kid as the one who had Star Trek posters. I don't believe thats how the world works, but we all develop our own models, eh. Your takes are very hot and cold.

I did have a Xena Warrior Princess poster at one point but I was in my 20s by then.

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Hey...fuck you. JK

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Ears?

Pshaw.

I can think of another body part I'd rather have rubbed, but I suppose that would have been too racy for TV.

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The Ferengi had huge ears which were an erogenous zone for them as first made canon in a Next Generation episode in which a Ferengi kidnaps Counselor Dianna Troi's mother, Lwaxana Troi, with an intent to essentially force her to marry him. I forget the name of the episode and don't feel like looking it up.

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So yesterday, Mdawg revealed that he had recently met with Shackleford and they went over his baccarat play results for this now 7 month trip and guess what....the conclusion was that "Mdawg is about even, maybe slightly ahead or slightly behind." Those are his words!

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Mdawg adventure thread, Oct 24, 10:39am, just below the "unleash the Wizard picture".

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...-of-mdawg/624/

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So yesterday, Mdawg revealed that he had recently met with Shackleford and they went over his baccarat play results for this now 7 month trip and guess what....the conclusion was that "Mdawg is about even, maybe slightly ahead or slightly behind." Those are his words!

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Mdawg adventure thread, Oct 24, 10:39am, just below the "unleash the Wizard picture".

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...-of-mdawg/624/

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Can you or someone else post this here, for those of us that refuse to visit that trash heap. Tks

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Can you please provide a link to where MDawg said this?

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https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...-of-mdawg/624/

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Can you or someone else post this here, for those of us that refuse to visit that trash heap. Tks

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I have done that. Why can't you just click on the link and see the actual post? :confused:

But the exact by Mdawg post is: Wizard and I got together recently and had a grand old time as he showed me a number of magic tricks he’s been working on. I was impressed. Yes, the inner wizard was definitely unleashed. Additionally we went over my Baccarat wins and losses this trip and I’d say that I might be about even, or slightly up or down at Bacc.

Are you sure that the term "this trip" covers the time period you claim?

I don't read douchedawg's threads so I am in the dark as to whether or not he ever leaves sin city, e.g. to return to California to attend to his job as an attorney.

Also, wouldn't a normal rich guy get tired of the phony bullishit in Las Vegas and want to go somewhere else for a break?

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The following day, page 625 of the Mdawg adventure, Wizard posted the following "Mdawg's confession about his baccarat play over the entirety of his trip I found to be very honest and commendable."

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gamb...-of-mdawg/625/

We’re STILL talking about mdawg!’!!!

UN-COOL, J.

Fuck man, why don’t you go fag it up and make some female friends so we can have sex with them. It KEWL. Or at least just go play some Black Jack in LAS VEGAS casinos.

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Or at least just go play some Black Jack in LAS VEGAS casinos.

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Unfortunately, I am on a bit of a "forced Hiatus" from blackjack at the moment due to a recent out of town incident that followed me home to Vegas (if you know what I mean). Sometimes you gotta take a little break and allow the heat to cool down. That is part of the "game within the game" of blackjack advantage play. :(

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I've no clue what you mean; can you fill in the blanks on your crypitic, quasi-teasing post?

If no specifics then some broad brush strokes?

I have to assume it is gambling related, as opposed to something plebian such as getting bitten by a scorpion that hitched a ride in your trunk from out of state.

An old friend of the UnKool1 has been stalking him of late. He's sleeping with 1 eye open holding his pillow tight.

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I've no clue what you mean; can you fill in the blanks on your crypitic, quasi-teasing post?

If no specifics then some broad brush strokes?

I have to assume it is gambling related, as opposed to something plebian such as getting bitten by a scorpion that hitched a ride in your trunk from out of state.

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He was backed off on some level. Maybe they IDed him.

My question is what mechanism is it that he expects info to go around about him that transcends internal memo stuff. Sure avoid whatever X brand.. but all blackjack. They wouldn't even have a good pic with masks

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I've no clue what you mean; can you fill in the blanks on your crypitic, quasi-teasing post?

If no specifics then some broad brush strokes?

I have to assume it is gambling related, as opposed to something plebian such as getting bitten by a scorpion that hitched a ride in your trunk from out of state.

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Ok, here is the way it works MisterV. Backoffs and barrings are no big deal if it involves only the casino involved. You just stay away from that casino for a few months until things cool off and the incident forgotten. And if it happens to be an out of town property, even better. No real consequences at all. Next time you hit that place, you are probably good, assuming you don't rush back.

The BIG danger is the databases, like OSN, BioM, and a couple others. Griffin is still alive in parts of the country but doesn't have too much of a presence in Vegas. So if you have an incident at a property whether in your home rotation (Vegas for me) or out of town and it is a property that contributes to one or more of the databases, that incident and entry in the database follows you everywhere. That is why it is important for a player like me to know which casinos contribute regularly, like Cosmo, Aria, Palace station to name a couple big contributors and which don't contribute and not play or play lightly those that do. Of course knowing which casinos do or don't is more difficult when you are out of town and not as familiar.

So if a player where to get an entry into a database, that almost always includes a picture and usually several. So let's say someone gets backed off somewhere :rolleyes: and gets a new entry into one of the databases. That entry and picture is right there front and center on page 1 for all to see, until newer entries are added and you eventually get bumped back. It is those first couple weeks that are the problem. Better just to take a break until your entry is no longer "fresh". The database is digital of course, but most pit people only look at the first page of newer, "fresher" entries. Once you are off that front page you are good to go.

So I am in the waiting period, just waiting for other fellow card counters and AP's to get busted and get entries, so I am old news. ;)

OK, got it, thanks for the explanation...but I have a question.

Let's say you are playing BJ in a casino that subscribes to OSN or some such service, and you for whatever reason are on their radar.

Playing without a card they don't know your name, so all they'd have to go on is a pic of your face taken from their Eye in the sky.

Question: Can they check your pic against those in a database (e.g., OSN's) and via facial recognition software find out that you were backed off elsewhere?

If so, that would be a chilling, powerful tool in the cat and mouse casino game.

First, there are better picture opportunities than the eye in the sky at the table. Cashier's cage for example is often where a real good head shot is taken. Some places even make you pull down your mask while cashing out chips. :eek:

I don't know all the capabilities of all the facial recognition and other technology. Initially facial recognition wasn't that good. Missed players and claimed a match to players that very obviously weren't. In the last couple year, I hear facial recognition has improved as you would expect. But then you get into most casinos don't have that top technology and some of those that do are only as good as the technician operating the technology.

That is why I don't heavily play the bigger strip casinos that have the latest technology and better technicians. And when I do, it is during busier times, so as to blend in and hopefully there are bigger fish for them to worry about.

WoV has MDawg; VCT has kew....

Ok, an update to the Mdawg situation. I had a little Halloween gathering of some friends over the weekend. One friend came with a gift in the form of some documentation from Cosmo about a certain M-pooch. Seems it wasn't necessary to wait for the sale to go through. All that was necessary was a phone call between friends of each other in the industry.

As many of us thought, it seems Mpooch hasn't been honest about posting his results over the last 7 months. He has had some winning days that match or are very close to some wins reported. He also has had many losing days, some of pretty significant amounts that seem to have been left out of his reporting. All told, he is down $118k at that property, not about even as he stated last week. It seems like he has received some pretty good comps for the amount he is down.

Now this was ONLY at the one property mentioned. Included in Mpooch's adventure is play at a second property in Las Vegas. It was suggested that that information could be had with a couple phone calls as well. I said "please don't. This is more than enough for me".

Now I know coach belly and maybe a few others will be calling for me to post said documents. I am not going to do so. I have no interest in placing anyone in jeopardy. Anyone finding my comments above less credible because of that...so be it. I am fine with that. I am just reporting what I now know. :cool:

Now I do want to move into the blackjack area of Mdawgs claims, which has been most or all of his play in the last month or so. When he posts these daily reports or claims, he always mentions a spread. $100-$20,000 or $200-$25,000 have been some of the bigger ones of late. What he has never answered is just what that means? And I have asked multiple times. To most of us that play blackjack at an advantage, the spread is the difference in amounts placed when the player is not playing at an advantage, either a neutral or slightly -EV situation and the much higher amount when the player is playing at an advantage or +EV situation.

NO casino is going to let him spread these amounts spreading to advantage. So I suspect his reference to "spread" is talking about the low end of his progression betting vs the high end of his progression wagering. Of course this is NOT a winning system. Progression wagering simply can not over come negative expectation play. Period!

So some interesting comments today from Mpooch about a "really high level person at the casino came up while I was playing and shook hands with me saying how much they appreciated my patronage."

That tells me and should tell anyone else that he is NOT playing with any kind of advantage. They are well aware what he is doing (progression wagering) and are fine with it because it is not a winning strategy or play despite his recent reports. So yeah, of course they welcome and appreciate his high end -EV play.

I am not going to search for real results of his blackjack play, or ask any friends to look for anything. There is no need. This story is OVER except for those that either want to believe in the fantasy....the Easter Bunny conquering Vegas, or for those trolling. And I am not interested in dealing with either group any longer. :cool:

Dude just send a pm to redeitz next time. No one else gives a fuck

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I will address this also, Ozzy. Yes, Mdawg using a new member sockpuppet, posted my name and address last week on another forum. I am not denying, nor confirming that information accurate. There are some AP's that know where I lived. I don't think that info, accurate or not, being posted briefly is going to effect anything despite what M-pooch was hoping.

Now I know some will say turnabout is fair play as I posted some identifying info on this Mdawg person a couple weeks ago. It is not the same thing! I posted a first name that hinted as to his identity. And he is a non-AP, player, a losing degenerate gambler, that plays rated, and wants the casinos to know who he is. The only reason he is not posting under his real name is because then everyone would be able to look into his claims. And I never posted anything like an address or other info that I have. Compare that to posting the name and address of an advantage player. No comparison. Shitty thing to do by a jealous person, a person jealous of players that actually win and make a living. All the family money in the world that he was born into can't make him a winning player.

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Then stay out of this thread and don't read. I don't give a fuck about all the tasha/nathan "shit" that has dominated this forum, supposedly about Vegas, Casino's for the past week.

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Mcap, I don't know that this story is even about Mdawg anymore. I think the Mdawg fraud has been proven and it falls in line what most have thought for quite a while now.

This bigger story right now is the guy that has self-anointed himself "wizard". He has allowed, and protected these claims that he had to know where BS, because they defy math and Las Vegas and Shackleford know about both. And given the chance to come clean and do the right thing numerous times, each time this Shackleford doubles down against the math, the way Las Vegas works and reality in the name of god knows what...a little "payoff"?

Last week, it appears to me, that Shackleford maybe orchestrated, at the very least participated in yet another cover-up, attempting to sweep the finally admission of lying under the rug. At the end of a post about meeting up with Shackleford, buried beneath the Wizard pictures, was the statement by Mdawg "Additionally we went over my Baccarat wins and losses this trip and I’d say that I might be about even, or slightly up or down at Bacc". Complete attempt to bury and minimize that the claims of the last 7 months that he was not only allowed to make, but protected from anyone that challenged.

When that didn't go unnoticed as hoped, and several people spoke up, Shackleford then came out and praised Mdawg for his honesty. Really!!! The guy lied on YOUR forum for 7 months, and when finally caught admitted he had lied and all you can say is the "confession about his baccarat play over the entirety of his trip I found to be very honest and commendable".

Give me a fucking break!!!

And now of course, this M-pooch just continues on as if nothing happened, with the continued blessing and protection of the so called "Wizard".

Actually I think that part is over as well. Either he is an idiot and signed a ND agreement for next to nothing, or he has been paid a lot more to be a shill for the guy. Flip a coin, either way MDawg owns him in regards to the entire MD fantasy.

It doesn’t really matter, anyone that originally found his opinion credible has long realized the truth in regards to this situation.

Now if you could irrefutably prove MD was the one behind doxxing you last week, you would have something to put the Wizard on the spot.

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Mcap, I don't know that this story is even about Mdawg anymore. I think the Mdawg fraud has been proven and it falls in line what most have thought for quite a while now.

This bigger story right now is the guy that has self-anointed himself "wizard". He has allowed, and protected these claims that he had to know where BS, because they defy math and Las Vegas and Shackleford know about both. And given the chance to come clean and do the right thing numerous times, each time this Shackleford doubles down against the math, the way Las Vegas works and reality in the name of god knows what...a little "payoff"?

Last week, it appears to me, that Shackleford maybe orchestrated, at the very least participated in yet another cover-up, attempting to sweep the finally admission of lying under the rug. At the end of a post about meeting up with Shackleford, buried beneath the Wizard pictures, was the statement by Mdawg "Additionally we went over my Baccarat wins and losses this trip and I’d say that I might be about even, or slightly up or down at Bacc". Complete attempt to bury and minimize that the claims of the last 7 months that he was not only allowed to make, but protected from anyone that challenged.

When that didn't go unnoticed as hoped, and several people spoke up, Shackleford then came out and praised Mdawg for his honesty. Really!!! The guy lied on YOUR forum for 7 months, and when finally caught admitted he had lied and all you can say is the "confession about his baccarat play over the entirety of his trip I found to be very honest and commendable".

Give me a fucking break!!!

And now of course, this M-pooch just continues on as if nothing happened, with the continued blessing and protection of the so called "Wizard".

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You’re right, the story isn’t about Mdawg (or the wizard for that matter), it’s about YOU, always about someone once upon a time wronged you for something petty as fuck you’re seemingly incapable of moving past, it’s ALWAYS been primarily about you.

I don't know how the guy doesn't get tired of bouncing from suite to suite in Vegas. Dude is a degen's degens I guess. If he has executives coming up to thank him then he is definitely not playing with an advantage.... RIP

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Was shocked to see that. Even MD has to understand casinos love suckers and ban AP’s and share information on them.

Any upper management welcoming a customer knows they are talking to a sucker.

In honor of MD and his nod to old movies, here is him 100% if he was a gook.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltURKC_V8Hg

The great thing about reporting a 118K loss as "losing a little, breaking even, or winning a little," is that you can get away with it by saying after the fact that, hell, 118K is so trivial that it falls into that "breakeven" gray area if you're as wealthy as I am.

The problem is that MDawg was so picayune in his reports that the "hell, what's 118K?" attitude doesn't really fly.

Obviously, the Dawg was probably reporting his winning sessions fairly closely and just skipping the ones where he lost. Like a six-year-old telling his mom he lost his report card but got an A in gym.

What's disturbing, of course, is that an expert on minute mathematical advantages in games allows -118K to pass muster as "winning a little, losing a little, or breaking even." That undermines his credibility as an expert on advantage math like the Centralia mine fire. (Boz, I thought you might appreciate a little anthracite metaphor there)

Thanks for reporting, kewlJ. Puts the MDawg in clear perspective.

I suspect the 118 k loss is better than expectation (less loss than expected) for his play and action, IF he is being anywhere close to true about what action he gives. probably due to loss rebates, or free play chips or whatever other concessions a higher end player gets. I really wish he would have posted more honestly about that as it is something I and others that aren't familiar with that level of play (and comps) would be interested in.

At any rate, it has been apparent that he is most interested in the comps (and that is because he is not really winning like he claims). So he is trying to manipulate the comps to his advantage. That is why he questions what his average bet is and tries to manipulate pit or host to recording a higher average. And that is ok. Maybe he is doing a good job at playing the comp game, I don't know. But what I do know is all the winning was complete BS and he shouldn't have been allowed to claim that on a math based gambling forum.

About People thinking that "Mdawg is the Golden Boy of WOV, keep in mind that Mdawg was actually treated like trash by WOV Admins. A Poster insulted Mdawg, Mdawg lightly stood up for himself, and Mdawg got a Suspension, and not the Poster who insulted him. Mdawg was also thrown out like yesterday's trash when some IDIOT pretended to be him and WOV Posters actually rallied for his unbanning and pointed out they didn't think that Mdawg was this IDIOT Impersonating him.

They also pointed out that Mdawg was actually driving to another State at the time the IDIOT Impersonated him. I think what REALLY got to the Admins was the question, something like,"So, does this mean someone can impersonate Axelwolf and get you guys to blindly ban Axelwolf?" The investigation happened VERY soon after that question was asked . The Admins Reinstated him when they found out some random IDIOT had been impostering him on random Websites. The IDIOT was banned and Mdawg's Ban was reversed. So keep that in mind that Mdawg was actually thrown out like yesterday's trash over an Impersonator and Suspended when he made a slight comeback to someone who insulted him. So, Mdawg is REALLY not WOV's Golden Child.

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I suspect the 118 k loss is better than expectation (less loss than expected) for his play and action, IF he is being anywhere close to true about what action he gives. probably due to loss rebates, or free play chips or whatever other concessions a higher end player gets. I really wish he would have posted more honestly about that as it is something I and others that aren't familiar with that level of play (and comps) would be interested in.

At any rate, it has been apparent that he is most interested in the comps (and that is because he is not really winning like he claims). So he is trying to manipulate the comps to his advantage. That is why he questions what his average bet is and tries to manipulate pit or host to recording a higher average. And that is ok. Maybe he is doing a good job at playing the comp game, I don't know. But what I do know is all the winning was complete BS and he shouldn't have been allowed to claim that on a math based gambling forum.

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Or that's a loss leader on a double up tie bug play...c'mon man

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Ok, an update to the Mdawg situation. I had a little Halloween gathering of some friends over the weekend. One friend came with a gift in the form of some documentation from Cosmo about a certain M-pooch. Seems it wasn't necessary to wait for the sale to go through. All that was necessary was a phone call between friends of each other in the industry.

As many of us thought, it seems Mpooch hasn't been honest about posting his results over the last 7 months. He has had some winning days that match or are very close to some wins reported. He also has had many losing days, some of pretty significant amounts that seem to have been left out of his reporting. All told, he is down $118k at that property, not about even as he stated last week. It seems like he has received some pretty good comps for the amount he is down.

Now this was ONLY at the one property mentioned. Included in Mpooch's adventure is play at a second property in Las Vegas. It was suggested that that information could be had with a couple phone calls as well. I said "please don't. This is more than enough for me".

Now I know coach belly and maybe a few others will be calling for me to post said documents. I am not going to do so. I have no interest in placing anyone in jeopardy. Anyone finding my comments above less credible because of that...so be it. I am fine with that. I am just reporting what I now know. :cool:

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Your so-called "credibility" on info about others is already well known. That's why you don't ever post any proof, even after you've been made a fool of dozens of times.

I see redietz is off and running with your made-up $118k number. What a surprise an idiot like that would accept the word of a jealous fairy.

And didn't you claim you were done with this MDawg fantasy of yours? Now we see how much everything about him tortures you. You haven't the bankroll to lose even a FRACTION of that manufactured $118k.

Wise up.

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Your so-called "credibility" on info about others is already well known. That's why you don't ever post any proof, even after you've been made a fool of dozens of times.

I see redietz is off and running with your made-up $118k number. What a surprise an idiot like that would accept the word of a jealous fairy.

And didn't you claim you were done with this MDawg fantasy of yours? Now we see how much everything about him tortures you. You haven't the bankroll to lose even a FRACTION of that manufactured $118k.

Wise up.

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Really!?! A guy who marched into an RV dealership, posing in an RV on the showroom floor, pretending it was his is going to even question anyone else's credibility?

What a washed up nut job you are. ;)

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Your so-called "credibility" on info about others is already well known. That's why you don't ever post any proof, even after you've been made a fool of dozens of times.

I see redietz is off and running with your made-up $118k number. What a surprise an idiot like that would accept the word of a jealous fairy.

And didn't you claim you were done with this MDawg fantasy of yours? Now we see how much everything about him tortures you. You haven't the bankroll to lose even a FRACTION of that manufactured $118k.

Wise up.

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Really!?! A guy who marched into an RV dealership, posing in an RV on the showroom floor, pretending it was his is going to even question anyone else's credibility?

What a washed up nut job you are. ;)

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You should have stayed in school. I just exposed another of your lies and you do what losers always do: deflect and hope no one notices.

I then mocked you for not doing what you said you were gonna do regarding your nemesis MDawg, and all you could do is look like the big fool he's been making out of you for a long, long time.

Smart money says you cry yourself to sleep every night. That's called Music To Everyone's Ears! :)

You know, speaking of hokum, how about somebody offer Singer a free roll? Just pay him to provide an old photo of him and the missus in his Newell. Or Rob and other family members in his Newell. I mean, surely there have to be a couple of family pics in the Newell. Not at a dealership, mind you. How much do I need to pitch in? I'm always up for donating to Rob.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

We all saw the pathetic sadness that made Alan utilize AndrewG to continue to get noticed. This wynnP fool is following in his footsteps as he posts moronic nonsense in the name of that idiot MDawg.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

I wouldn't believe anything he says fab even if you need to. The only reason this attention-seeking fool posts about "going to the gym" is because that's what he wants every reader to believe he does. Have you looked at his sissified hands? Does it look like this clown actually touches anything with the word "weights" included within?

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Tipping is definitely okay in Europe. Once when my brother and I were traveling in France as teenagers we paid for a meal with my AMEX (my name on the card, but under my father's account), and the waiter added a zero to the tip and made the total 10X higher than what it should have been! My Dad had to dispute that one.

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That's because you've never been there. Tipping is different depending on where you go. No one expects tips across much of Europe, but if they get them the servers are confused at more than 5%.

You've already been caught in multiple lies just because you want to keep thinking you've hoodwinked people. The gig is over.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

While I don't much care what mdawg keeps claiming that bothers others, it's very clear and obvious he cares a TON what other people think of him--as displayed by his non-stop, lengthy denials and name-calling followed by his endless tooting horn. His wordy diatribes are created in the hope that he'll convert axel first, then others to his way of thinking. And sorry, but that's what every self-confidence-lacking weak loser does.

My belief is mdawg has a small dick. There is no other explanation for some California flake who goes from forum to forum with long drawn out postings begging people to believe all that he says.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

I don't believe he's anything more than YET ANOTHER attention-seeking gambling storyteller who needs as many people as possible to read his pretend tales in order to be able to sleep at night. The #1 tell is his craving to post pictures of cash. Big whoop. And I've seen thousands of perfect Rolex knockoffs across Asia, S. America, and in parts of Africa plus in Eastern Europe.

These story concocters never agree to meet up with anyone who calls them on their BS. Says tons. He's basically harmless and he tells a good tale along with great pictures. The ball's in his court if he can't figure that out.

I'm betting that he has a small penis, and he thinks his loud car makes up for it.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

If mdawg were the success at gambling as he wants everybody on forums to believe he is for obvious reasons, he wouldn't care one bit about what part of town axel may or may not live in.

The more this guy posts, the more chickenshit he becomes.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

What a bunch of BS. Pictures of a measly $40k in cash or chips is supposed to impress whom? A chump like you would have melted away if you ever saw the cash piles I built for the 10-12 years I played hi limits. And I have a diamond white gold rolex that I purposely DON'T wear because I'm not the faker you are.

No wonder the mensas at WoV shoved you away. All talk & stupid pictures that anybody could post/no action. Just another foolish California flake running his "look at me! look at me" mouth.

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The above quotes show just what an asshole Rob Singer is. He posted the truth about what he thought many times, until he realized I was questioning Mdawgs claims, and now old Lying Rob Singer ha done an about face and supports Mdawg just so he doesn't have to admit I am right. You just couldn't stand to be right could ya Rob. :D

Also from the above quotes, Singer seems strangely concerned and obsessed with the size of the M-poodles dick. Not sure what that is about? :confused:

Having trouble scratching that itch you just can't seem to reach, kew? :)

KJ, so basically you are all but confirming to people in the know that MDawg is in fact the person people believe him to be or closely related to that person somehow. I mean what are the odds there's a person with that name playing in the LV casinos at the locations he has claimed.