Yes, but that may not be his biggest problem, gambling-wise: Alan seems to lack the discipline to play moderately and within his means.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
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Yes, but that may not be his biggest problem, gambling-wise: Alan seems to lack the discipline to play moderately and within his means.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Damn V... I certainly hope that using the $20 of free play I get is within my means.Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVYes, but that may not be his biggest problem, gambling-wise: Alan seems to lack the discipline to play moderately and within his means.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Keep smoking papa.
Let's be quite clear here, Alan.
I'm not saying you have a gambling problem, as you enjoy it and are able to keep doing it plus keep a roof over your head.
But you can no longer play at the level you once did at craps or VP.
Part of that must be related to your divorces: those divorce attorneys can be devils.
But, and this is my opinion based on years of reading your posts, you seem unable to rat hole wins and keep them off of the felt and out of the machnes.
You hit a hundred grand at VP: how long did those winnings last?
Not to brag, but to compare: unlike you, I have "upped my game" since retiring and am betting more than before.
You claim you were barred from Caesars and MGM due to being a supposed DI; I wonder if that is just smoke and mirrors from you, a convenient way of explaining away why you can no longer afford to play at casinos with higher minimums.
I could be wrong, in fact I hope I am because through it all I think you're a good person: a bit stymied by life perhaps, but with a good heart.
It's probably been 15 or more years ago on the video poker forum, vpFREE, there was a discussion about what recreational/unknowledgeable video poker players should be called. Someone suggested "ploppy" and it stuck. Since then the term has spread around the gambling world as a humorous/sarcastic description of sucker gamblers.
I was not barred from Caesars. I haven't been there in four years because I don't go to the strip.
My play level is based on my current income as a retiree. Only an addict and degenerate gambler would gamble in excess of their current income, especially a retiree.
Only a Rat like Boz would create a thread titled like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Alright, kewlJ would and has done similar titles.
I'm against censorship but this title is unnecessary and it really showcases what a Rat Fink Boz really is.
Monet... I've come to ignore Boz. Especially after talking to others who know.
dershowitz?
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
There’s one other category that you left out. The category you belong in. The casino life Hustler
The casino life hustler is not an advantage player or plop. He has acquired enough knowledge to win just enough money to stay in the game. The casino life hustler often takes advantage of people who work at casinos or even other gamblers to earn his living. In your case the casino is how you troll for vulnerable gay men. Strutting around pool side in a red Nixie One Shoulder Sleeveless Top trying to attract down and out middle aged gay men so you can suck your next BJ buy in out of them.
The fact that kewl wears a red Nixie One Shoulder Sleeveless Top should be enough to end this argument right here.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
There’s one other category that you left out. The category you belong in. The casino life Hustler
The casino life hustler is not an advantage player or plop. He has acquired enough knowledge to win just enough money to stay in the game. The casino life hustler often takes advantage of people who work at casinos or even other gamblers to earn his living. In your case the casino is how you troll for vulnerable gay men. Strutting around pool side in a red Nixie One Shoulder Sleeveless Top trying to attract down and out middle aged gay men so you can suck your next BJ buy in out of them.
I read a story in Amazing Fantasy last week where I had to look up a new word every page. I don't mind that too much. But now I have to look up fashion details while reading posts. Lot of work.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionThe fact that kewl wears a red Nixie One Shoulder Sleeveless Top should be enough to end this argument right here.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
There’s one other category that you left out. The category you belong in. The casino life Hustler
The casino life hustler is not an advantage player or plop. He has acquired enough knowledge to win just enough money to stay in the game. The casino life hustler often takes advantage of people who work at casinos or even other gamblers to earn his living. In your case the casino is how you troll for vulnerable gay men. Strutting around pool side in a red Nixie One Shoulder Sleeveless Top trying to attract down and out middle aged gay men so you can suck your next BJ buy in out of them.
Geez, it's a little casual for my tastes. I think I'd prefer something more spandex-y. I'd suggest committing to an all-out toga look if you're doing this Nixie One Shoulder thing.
Hey Alan, if you're reading this, let me know if you'd like a copy of the book that includes my short non-fiction story, "The Car Makes the Man." From a couple of things you posted in the past, there is an overlap between that story and your late teenage experiences. A little commonality and resonance, I'd say. Anyway, if you'd like a copy, PM me a physical address. The book is a collection of coming-of-age true car stories and essays.
And in a Jewish vein for Alan and Todd, I signed a couple of forms yesterday so my smiling face will be in two films that I guess will be making various film festivals at some point. I play "Saul the Jew." In the first one, I think I have about two minutes of screen time. I make a fine Saul the Jew. The films are a little bit experimental, and they feature some hilarious characters. The trick is to figure out who is acting and who is playing themselves.
I'm waiting for the new thread dedicated to Seedvalue giving kewl fashion advice. Straight eye for a queer guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzI read a story in Amazing Fantasy last week where I had to look up a new word every page. I don't mind that too much. But now I have to look up fashion details while reading posts. Lot of work.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionThe fact that kewl wears a red Nixie One Shoulder Sleeveless Top should be enough to end this argument right here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
Geez, it's a little casual for my tastes. I think I'd prefer something more spandex-y. I'd suggest committing to an all-out toga look if you're doing this Nixie One Shoulder thing.
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Originally Posted by accountinquestionI'm waiting for the new thread dedicated to Seedvalue giving kewl fashion advice. Straight eye for a queer guy?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzI read a story in Amazing Fantasy last week where I had to look up a new word every page. I don't mind that too much. But now I have to look up fashion details while reading posts. Lot of work.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Geez, it's a little casual for my tastes. I think I'd prefer something more spandex-y. I'd suggest committing to an all-out toga look if you're doing this Nixie One Shoulder thing.
That was a good one, account.
I have to look all these things up; I don't know what they are. I'm not totally ignorant regarding fashion -- I watch the Gentleman's Gazette videos all the time, but Seed's off-the-cuff knowledge is intimidating.
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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Idk what level of income you have now, but if you played any real volume at the $25 level of video poker or higher then you obviously had a significant bankroll at one point in time. I just hope you didn’t lose it all back.
Video poker has a way to really fuck with the strongest minds. I’ve seen it and experienced it myself. It’s a game that you constantly lose at waiting to hit one big pay day. There’s nothing worse then going long stretch’s not hitting a royal. Going down a few hundred K playing VP is no fun regardless of how much money you have. Personally I hate the game, but reluctantly put in the time when there are promotions that put the game over 100%.
I always have said casino gambling should be entertainment only. This really got me in "trouble" with the advocates of "advantage play."
Despite everything claimed on these anonymous forums I reject these claims of advantage play -- even claims that dice influencing can be taught. It can only be taught to a tiny few... maybe.
In short, I'm probably the most hated casino forum participant because when a so-called AP says "I win" I say "prove it."
Yeah some people win, otherwise the casinos would be empty. But I know too many APs living in their cars and with their mothers in their 50s.
So yes. I'm called a fucktard. But I use my real name because I'm proud of where I stand.
I'll call BS when I need to.
Dipshits who claim to have seen 18 yos don't get to call BS on fucking anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
You are the most hated casino forum participant Alan? Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Have you had someone hire a PI to find you and then post where you live and send that info to the casinos hoping to cause you financial harm? (Well you are not an AP, so that really wouldn't cause you financial harm)
Have you had another person from the forums show up at your home, I guess to carry out physical threats made on the forum?
You recently had an ex-spouse pass away, Alan. Did anyone attack her repeatedly as has happened to me and several others?
People make fun of the 18 y.o.'s in a row, but are you attacked on a daily basis about something not even related to gambling?
Do people repeatedly claim you are a male prostitute?
Do people attack you based on health issues you have had in the past and wish new issues like monkeypox on you almost daily?
Do people repeatedly claim you have had sex with family members?
Do people attack your family members who don't even post on the forums?
When you can answer yes to even some of these questions, get back to me about being hated. :rolleyes:
Now moving on, why do you think anyone need "prove" anything to you? Alan, you have never understood what it means to be an AP. We are anonymous, not because we don't want to prove anything claimed to you, but because we have the very industry, we are talking about trying to stop us from playing.
The second thing you have never understood is the relationship between math and gambling. If a player can find a way to return over 100%, whether it is something small like card counting at about 101% return or video poker with over 100% return (with or without promotions), or something much larger, like hole carding or things not talked about, or machine plays above my understanding, and that player puts in enough trials to insure that regular negative variance doesn't come in to play, that player will win. That is what advantage play is.
Anyone who understands the math, really doesn't question anyone where the math adds up and makes sense to what is being claimed. The only time I question anyone's claim is when the math doesn't add up or work. And even then, I don't think I have ever demanded proof. No one is on trial. But if someone can't explain their claim that the math doesn't work, I am not going to believe them. That is my and every person's right. And as an AP, I actually believe it is a responsibility to call out claims that the math doesn't work.
To the extent that sports betting is an "AP play," what Alan said about wanting to see people "proving" it is not precisely correct. Unlike other forms of AP, a third-party monitored sports betting record either shows that you won or shows that you lost. I sent a boatload of those third-party verifications to Alan, but he never examined them.
Now it's true that someone who is tracked by third parties and has convincingly won could also be a degenerate in other gambling or could be doing stupid things on the side, like betting parlays. In that way, they could actually be losers while posting winning straight play records. But not everyone is going to have solved one aspect of gambling and yet blown their winnings via degeneracy.
I take pride in being a degenerate in many ways, but degenerate gambling isn't one of them. Seed, feel free to borrow that line.
You got my attention on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I heard that there is a formula for writing 36 short stories and making passive income from it.
Of course the formula is a ton of work as you have to write, edit, proof, promote, fund and sell your E Book.
And supposedly there are a few ways to steal ebooks but from my understanding Amazon is about to implement a no return policy after you read 10% of the written material.
I have what I think is an interesting concept for a short story/novel/screenplay but I'm probably way too lazy to finish or follow through with it.
I have the hook and ending but I'm unwilling to share it with anyone at this time.
I've wrote and rewrote a few chapters to it but I'd rather just play video games so it just sits there laughing at me.
Clarify something here, Alan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
As to blackjack, are you claiming that it is / was impossible or nearly so to get an advantage at that game now, or ever?
As crafted by you, it seems to me that your post is limited to opining that claims of successful AP by people on these forums are "BS" and untrue / impossible, correct?
What then about experts off the forum, luminaries such as Thorp and Wong: were they full of "BS" as well?
You think Thorp was lying / full of "BS" as well?
If not, if counting worked back in the day for Thorp, why can't it work today?
Do you think Don Johnson merely had happy variance when he cleaned the casino's clock in AC, or was he successfully demonstrating AP?
I even showed him one of our flashing dealers which we still destroy to this day!Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVClarify something here, Alan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
As to blackjack, are you claiming that it is / was impossible or nearly so to get an advantage at that game now, or ever?
As crafted by you, it seems to me that your post is limited to opining that claims of successful AP by people on these forums are "BS" and untrue / impossible, correct?
What then about experts off the forum, luminaries such as Thorp and Wong: were they full of "BS" as well?
You think Thorp was lying / full of "BS" as well?
If not, if counting worked back in the day for Thorp, why can't it work today?
Do you think Don Johnson merely had happy variance when he cleaned the casino's clock in AC, or was he successfully demonstrating AP?
Of course you did.
But hey,you know what they say: you can lead a horse's ass to water but you can't make him think.
Wait...what? You gave Alan info on a flashing dealer? Can I ask why? What game....blackjack?Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
I guess I am surprised because I have never even heard Alan mention blackjack play. Taking blurry pictures of empty blackjack tables at 3 in the morning, yes, but playing the game, no.
Would Alan even have ant idea what to do with the information from a flashed dealer card?
Next time you have some strange urge to give away such info about a Vegas dealer, don't forget your buddy KJ.
Since, YOU brought up hole carding and flashing dealers, and playing against the same flashing dealers over and over. I have a question for you JBJB.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
My experience with HCing is very limited. I did it one summer 2-3 years after I moved to Vegas. Even set my alarm for 3am so I could play one guys 4am-noon shift. Eventually decided I didn't care for that part of it. So anyway, I feel like certain plays are really going to make you stand out.
For example: Dealer is showing a 10, but you know there is a 6 underneath. So you will stand on your bust hand, something that almost no other player, AP, basic strategy player, even most complete ploppys would do. So of course dealer turns over his 6 and busts. After 2 or 3 times of this I feel like it would be very obvious to dealer, pit and surveillance, hell maybe even the cook in the nearby restaurant, what is going on.
Now something like hitting your break hand against the dealer 5 because you know there is a 4 under, that would be less obvious. Players make that kind of wrong play more frequently. But you just rarely see any player, regardless of skill level stand on a 13, 14 vs dealer 10. Doing this AND winning the hand multiple times just seems like a huge attention grabber.
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Originally Posted by monetYou got my attention on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I heard that there is a formula for writing 36 short stories and making passive income from it.
Of course the formula is a ton of work as you have to write, edit, proof, promote, fund and sell your E Book.
And supposedly there are a few ways to steal ebooks but from my understanding Amazon is about to implement a no return policy after you read 10% of the written material.
I have what I think is an interesting concept for a short story/novel/screenplay but I'm probably way too lazy to finish or follow through with it.
I have the hook and ending but I'm unwilling to share it with anyone at this time.
I've wrote and rewrote a few chapters to it but I'd rather just play video games so it just sits there laughing at me.
Sometimes letting it sit works. One of my good friends here, who also has a story in Driving Southern and who has published some non-fiction books on histories of herbal remedies and folk medicine, has been working on a novel for years now. But he let it sit and came back to it and was able to revamp key early chapters to make it work much, much better. I think your experience is somewhat common in that people usually do the opening and closing chapters and often sell the book based on those. Then they have to grind through the hard work of everything in between. I don't write fiction, but it seems like intense hard work.
I think the only way anyone makes significant money on short stories these days is if somebody buys it for a potential TV or movie idea. I did take screenwriting back in my youth, but I had no idea what I was doing. I was the worst at writing dialogue. Terrible. Truly terrible. But I did the framing of scenes and proper directions and all that okay.
For once I agree with UNKOOL1, he is definitely the most hated on ANY forum ! Alan your just a laughing stock, not even in the same hemisphere as Kew !Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I haven't been around long enough to know all the Alan stories but the guy is a putz of the first order. Arguing with him about gambing is a pointless endeavor. Ok, he insults APs. WGAF !?Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterVClarify something here, Alan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
As to blackjack, are you claiming that it is / was impossible or nearly so to get an advantage at that game now, or ever?
As crafted by you, it seems to me that your post is limited to opining that claims of successful AP by people on these forums are "BS" and untrue / impossible, correct?
What then about experts off the forum, luminaries such as Thorp and Wong: were they full of "BS" as well?
You think Thorp was lying / full of "BS" as well?
If not, if counting worked back in the day for Thorp, why can't it work today?
Do you think Don Johnson merely had happy variance when he cleaned the casino's clock in AC, or was he successfully demonstrating AP?
I degen the Orgy scene but since I don’t drink or do drugs I don’t think it’s that much of a problem. Doesn’t cost me anything other then travel expensesQuote:
Originally Posted by redietz
So I see my questions to jbjb about hole-carding went unanswered. :confused: Very strange that hole-carding is this "taboo" subject not to be discussed on open forums in any manner. I mean the guy that is the known hole-carder can chime in, that he and his team play to a much bigger advantage, or drop a line like he did today about sharing hole-card info with Alan, but ask a question and it is like you have broken some unspoken law. :rolleyes:
KJ, it's like asking someone if their wife is a good fuck: some things are taboo.
You have to learn to use discretion. Obvious example would be hitting 18 vs 9 up.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJSince, YOU brought up hole carding and flashing dealers, and playing against the same flashing dealers over and over. I have a question for you JBJB.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
My experience with HCing is very limited. I did it one summer 2-3 years after I moved to Vegas. Even set my alarm for 3am so I could play one guys 4am-noon shift. Eventually decided I didn't care for that part of it. So anyway, I feel like certain plays are really going to make you stand out.
For example: Dealer is showing a 10, but you know there is a 6 underneath. So you will stand on your bust hand, something that almost no other player, AP, basic strategy player, even most complete ploppys would do. So of course dealer turns over his 6 and busts. After 2 or 3 times of this I feel like it would be very obvious to dealer, pit and surveillance, hell maybe even the cook in the nearby restaurant, what is going on.
Now something like hitting your break hand against the dealer 5 because you know there is a 4 under, that would be less obvious. Players make that kind of wrong play more frequently. But you just rarely see any player, regardless of skill level stand on a 13, 14 vs dealer 10. Doing this AND winning the hand multiple times just seems like a huge attention grabber.
It is more than that he just insults AP's, he despises them and at time denies their existence.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Alan is actually the second person on these forums that I encountered that did this. LarryS was the first. And Rob Singer was the third, roughly the same time as Alan, but my encounter with Alan, just nosed out all my encounters with Singer. It isn't hard to figure out why these guys despise players that actually win and win by the math. :rolleyes:
These guys, that despise players that play with an advantage and win, are so adamant about insulting and attacking AP, that I have labeled them, anti-AP.
Now don't get me wrong, every player that doesn't play with an advantage or win longterm is not anti-AP. Most are recreational players that recognize and fully accept that they are playing -EV. They are happy to go to the casino on a Saturday afternoon or night, play a 99%, or 98%, or even 95% return game and hope for positive variance that makes them a winner for that day (short-term). MrV is the perfect example of this.
The one point Alan makes that I agree with is that AP's probably don't enjoy their gambling experience as much as a recreational player. I have evolved on this a bit because I love(d) blackjack and making a living playing blackjack, but it gets to a point, and next spring will be 20 years for me, that if some magic wand was waved and there was no more countable blackjack games, maybe CSM or 6:5 or even money games replaced all countable games rendering card counting useless, I don't think I would ever sit at a blackjack table again. I wouldn't have the desire to spend some Saturday afternoon or evening playing 99% or 98% return blackjack hoping to hit some positive variance for those few hours.
I mean these guys like Alan that hit up the casinos regularly, playing a negative expectation game, winning once in a while but losing much more often, reminds me of all the old horse players (my Grandfather was one) that went to the track every day or multiple times a week doing the same thing and thinking they were going to win. Isn't that the literal definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome? :confused:
Anyway, I honestly don't wish anything bad for Alan. I just wish he would recognize and acknowledge that gambling is about the math.
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Originally Posted by MisterV
Damn, I've had no couth for 50 years and didn't know it.
The anti-AP phenomenon is very real. I had never encountered it until I started reading this forum. It never occurred to me that some people have a deeply felt need to deny that is possible to make money at gambling.
Anyway regarding the other topic, I know someone that surrendered 19 vs 9 up. That actually didn't go well.
Exactly. Just eat the lossQuote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
Slow down guys. Yes, I said this and I own it:
But I was not including proven ways to play with an advantage such as card counting or even edge sorting or even hole carding (see that jbjb?) and wheel clocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I was talking about the "far out claims" that get a pass... like counting two or three tables (sorry kewlj) and using a team with other people's cards and milking the casinos $20,000 a week without having to play more than that to keep the free play streaming in.
So yes there are legitimate methods to win.
I've never doubted traditional card counting. I was even at a casino for a demonstration of how a roulette dealer could target a group of four slots.
I personally have the illegal skill of dice sliding but I've used it only for demonstration purposes.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mdawg can edge sort.
I know hole carding happens.
But what I object to is every Tom, Dick and Harry who joins a forum and starts his first post with "I'm an advantage player..." and then asks a question typical of a first time gambler.
And I will always be suspect of those who claim to be money making APs who say how they win is a secret.
Yeah. Big secret.
That includes Double Up Bugs.
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Originally Posted by Alan MendelsonSlow down guys. Yes, I said this and I own it:
But I was not including proven ways to play with an advantage such as card counting or even edge sorting or even hole carding (see that jbjb?) and wheel clocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I was talking about the "far out claims" that get a pass... like counting two or three tables (sorry kewlj) and using a team with other people's cards and milking the casinos $20,000 a week without having to play more than that to keep the free play streaming in.
So yes there are legitimate methods to win.
I've never doubted traditional card counting. I was even at a casino for a demonstration of how a roulette dealer could target a group of four slots.
I personally have the illegal skill of dice sliding but I've used it only for demonstration purposes.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mdawg can edge sort.
I know hole carding happens.
But what I object to is every Tom, Dick and Harry who joins a forum and starts his first post with "I'm an advantage player..." and then asks a question typical of a first time gambler.
And I will always be suspect of those who claim to be money making APs who say how they win is a secret.
Yeah. Big secret.
That includes Double Up Bugs.
21k a week 6 cards getting 700 5 times a week
Yawn
very easy to create offers that’s not even the AP part of that type of play.
The free play streets are full of bodies. Guys who thought they knew what was up. Now just broke
Every game is beatable under the right circumstances. Including craps without dice influence
Math will show you the way in most instances. Another is the willingness to try a different approach to a play.
20k a week is nothing but people are lazy.
What advantage players are claiming how they win is a secret? And yet, the one guy (MDawg) who definitely isn't an advantage player, is the one pretending he's got a secret.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan MendelsonSlow down guys. Yes, I said this and I own it:
But I was not including proven ways to play with an advantage such as card counting or even edge sorting or even hole carding (see that jbjb?) and wheel clocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I was talking about the "far out claims" that get a pass... like counting two or three tables (sorry kewlj) and using a team with other people's cards and milking the casinos $20,000 a week without having to play more than that to keep the free play streaming in.
So yes there are legitimate methods to win.
I've never doubted traditional card counting. I was even at a casino for a demonstration of how a roulette dealer could target a group of four slots.
I personally have the illegal skill of dice sliding but I've used it only for demonstration purposes.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mdawg can edge sort.
I know hole carding happens.
But what I object to is every Tom, Dick and Harry who joins a forum and starts his first post with "I'm an advantage player..." and then asks a question typical of a first time gambler.
And I will always be suspect of those who claim to be money making APs who say how they win is a secret.
Yeah. Big secret.
That includes Double Up Bugs.
Perhaps you're confusing the how with the when and where. Yeah, sorry, people are not going to give you all the intricate details, but there's been more than enough explanations and examples. You just seem to want more and more... all while looking for ways to debate and debunk everything.
Alan, you absolutely have a negative bias towards anyone who's an advantage player. You seem to have some type of soft spot for gamblers who play without an advantage. It's been apparent throughout the years over hundreds of posts. You probably can't see it yourself but there's a good reason multiple people think the same thing.
I think you're affinity for and the defending of the non-AP gamblers is due to the fact that they are more like you. When it comes down to it, you're really just defending yourself and you're -EV choices. It must really suck having years of experience and serious love for -EV gambling without ever being able to figure out how to make some consistent serious +EV money. Meanwhile, guys are out there making some serious coin.
You live life by aQuote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueQuote:
Originally Posted by Alan MendelsonSlow down guys. Yes, I said this and I own it:
But I was not including proven ways to play with an advantage such as card counting or even edge sorting or even hole carding (see that jbjb?) and wheel clocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I was talking about the "far out claims" that get a pass... like counting two or three tables (sorry kewlj) and using a team with other people's cards and milking the casinos $20,000 a week without having to play more than that to keep the free play streaming in.
So yes there are legitimate methods to win.
I've never doubted traditional card counting. I was even at a casino for a demonstration of how a roulette dealer could target a group of four slots.
I personally have the illegal skill of dice sliding but I've used it only for demonstration purposes.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mdawg can edge sort.
I know hole carding happens.
But what I object to is every Tom, Dick and Harry who joins a forum and starts his first post with "I'm an advantage player..." and then asks a question typical of a first time gambler.
And I will always be suspect of those who claim to be money making APs who say how they win is a secret.
Yeah. Big secret.
That includes Double Up Bugs.
21k a week 6 cards getting 700 5 times a week
Yawn
very easy to create offers that’s not even the AP part of that type of play.
The free play streets are full of bodies. Guys who thought they knew what was up. Now just broke
Every game is beatable under the right circumstances. Including craps without dice influence
Math will show you the way in most instances. Another is the willingness to try a different approach to a play.
20k a week is nothing but people are lazy.
Set of arbitrary rules taught to you by slave creators. It’s obvious you lack the ability to think for yourself. It’s absurd you cant figure out some of this shit. I mean you were getting 2500 a week in free play at one point. You could have very easily scaled that up to 20k A week every week for as long as they let you play in that casino. Then when they barred you teach someone to do it for you. Now you have a team of two.
Alan was playing at a location during a time that was fantastic and getting hit hard by advantage players right under his nose. He was literally too busy singing... halleluja, halleluja, halleluja, halleluja got a Royal, got a Royal. It was actually kinda catchy.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueYou live life by aQuote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueQuote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
21k a week 6 cards getting 700 5 times a week
Yawn
very easy to create offers that’s not even the AP part of that type of play.
The free play streets are full of bodies. Guys who thought they knew what was up. Now just broke
Every game is beatable under the right circumstances. Including craps without dice influence
Math will show you the way in most instances. Another is the willingness to try a different approach to a play.
20k a week is nothing but people are lazy.
Set of arbitrary rules taught to you by slave creators. It’s obvious you lack the ability to think for yourself. It’s absurd you cant figure out some of this shit. I mean you were getting 2500 a week in free play at one point. You could have very easily scaled that up to 20k A week every week for as long as they let you play in that casino. Then when they barred you teach someone to do it for you. Now you have a team of two.
It wasn't catchy, it was lame as fuck ! One of the cheesiest videos ever produced. Alan should stick to interviewing jokers like Singer, that's his schtick.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfAlan was playing at a location during a time that was fantastic and getting hit hard by advantage players right under his nose. He was literally too busy singing... halleluja, halleluja, halleluja, halleluja got a Royal, got a Royal. It was actually kinda catchy.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueYou live life by aQuote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
Set of arbitrary rules taught to you by slave creators. It’s obvious you lack the ability to think for yourself. It’s absurd you cant figure out some of this shit. I mean you were getting 2500 a week in free play at one point. You could have very easily scaled that up to 20k A week every week for as long as they let you play in that casino. Then when they barred you teach someone to do it for you. Now you have a team of two.
Cringe-worthy and embarrassing, yes, but catchy non-the-less.Quote:
Originally Posted by OzzyIt wasn't catchy, it was lame as fuck ! One of the cheesiest videos ever produced. Alan should stick to interviewing jokers like Singer, that's his schtick.Quote:
Originally Posted by AxelWolfAlan was playing at a location during a time that was fantastic and getting hit hard by advantage players right under his nose. He was literally too busy singing... halleluja, halleluja, halleluja, halleluja got a Royal, got a Royal. It was actually kinda catchy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
I'm not letting it "sit" lol... I'm just too comfortable, well funded, have no debt and lazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I have the complete outline and concept but like you say the hard part is actually writing all the details and dialogue out is the real work.
Probably just better to pitch the story and sell it for peanuts.
This is not the norm but I found it interesting as one could try to garner a loyal fan base and rape them through kickstarter.
"Fantasy Author Brandon Sanderson Makes Kickstarter History with Record-Breaking $41 Million Campaign."
Let's not forget that James Cameron was a Full Time Truck Driver while he was writing Terminator.
He got that idea from a nightmare.
I can relate as most of my story ideas have come from dreams/nightmares as well.
No need to be sorry Alan. You can believe whatever you like. I have come to realize that sometimes I can be too sensitive with people challenging me and what I do, especially those that aren't blackjack players. I never really had this occur until I left WoV the first time and came to forums like this and GF. THAT was the first time I encountered it all these anti-AP types challenging everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
So whether you believe it or not, counting a second table was a very real and profitable thing, when conditions were right to do it. Again, conditions had to be just right, so it wasn't like a daily thing.
The funny thing about that discussion to me, is I had never seen discussion of this before I mentioned it. Well there was one exchange between myself and a long-time player that played Atlantic City back when I did, and we discovered we both did some of the same things back then, including tracking a second table. But after this discussion on this forum, I heard from 3 other players, 2 blackjack hall of fame members and one long-time 30 year member of Tommy Hylands team that all confirmed they had employed this at times when conditions were right. So that is 4 longtime players of many years, that all gravitated towards the same technique. I am quite sure there were many more.
Doesn't really matter anymore as I have no real desire to argue this or any other thing I do that anyone may have the need to challenge. Just doesn't benefit me in any way. As a matter of fact, I am better off people thinking whatever they want to think. AND specific to this particular technique, counting a second table, when conditions are right, this has all but dried up in the post covid era. Covid really didn't have anything to do with it, it was just the timing that conditions changed like number of tables dwindling ect. Station casinos for example all put in stadium blackjack reducing the number of real blackjack tables at almost every location. New table games with higher house advantage push BJ to the side more and more every day. This year, I think I have been able to employ tracking a second table one time, and last year it was a very small handful of times, so I see no sense in discussing it any longer, it is a moot point.
Happy day to you Alan.
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Originally Posted by monetI'm not letting it "sit" lol... I'm just too comfortable, well funded, have no debt and lazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I have the complete outline and concept but like you say the hard part is actually writing all the details and dialogue out is the real work.
Probably just better to pitch the story and sell it for peanuts.
This is not the norm but I found it interesting as one could try to garner a loyal fan base and rape them through kickstarter.
"Fantasy Author Brandon Sanderson Makes Kickstarter History with Record-Breaking $41 Million Campaign."
Let's not forget that James Cameron was a Full Time Truck Driver while he was writing Terminator.
He got that idea from a nightmare.
I can relate as most of my story ideas have come from dreams/nightmares as well.
Jesus, that's some kickstarter. It's a shame there was no kickstarting when Stallone sold his Rocky script. He was living on the street and sold his dog for fifty bucks because he couldn't afford to feed him. After he sold the script, he bought his dog back.
How the hell do you make 40 Million with a kickstarter campaign?
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Originally Posted by kewlJNo need to be sorry Alan. You can believe whatever you like. I have come to realize that sometimes I can be too sensitive with people challenging me and what I do, especially those that aren't blackjack players. I never really had this occur until I left WoV the first time and came to forums like this and GF. THAT was the first time I encountered it all these anti-AP types challenging everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
So whether you believe it or not, counting a second table was a very real and profitable thing, when conditions were right to do it. Again, conditions had to be just right, so it wasn't like a daily thing.
The funny thing about that discussion to me, is I had never seen discussion of this before I mentioned it. Well there was one exchange between myself and a long-time player that played Atlantic City back when I did, and we discovered we both did some of the same things back then, including tracking a second table. But after this discussion on this forum, I heard from 3 other players, 2 blackjack hall of fame members and one long-time 30 year member of Tommy Hylands team that all confirmed they had employed this at times when conditions were right. So that is 4 longtime players of many years, that all gravitated towards the same technique. I am quite sure there were many more.
Doesn't really matter anymore as I have no real desire to argue this or any other thing I do that anyone may have the need to challenge. Just doesn't benefit me in any way. As a matter of fact, I am better off people thinking whatever they want to think. AND specific to this particular technique, counting a second table, when conditions are right, this has all but dried up in the post covid era. Covid really didn't have anything to do with it, it was just the timing that conditions changed like number of tables dwindling ect. Station casinos for example all put in stadium blackjack reducing the number of real blackjack tables at almost every location. New table games with higher house advantage push BJ to the side more and more every day. This year, I think I have been able to employ tracking a second table one time, and last year it was a very small handful of times, so I see no sense in discussing it any longer, it is a moot point.
Happy day to you Alan.
One of the bizarro aspects of this "challenging APs" stuff is the inconsistency with which the anti-APs apply their microscopes depending on who is doing the claiming. For example, coach belly will ask for details regarding where I am in various current contests but says not one word challenging Singer's two years of 68% ATS in the NFL claim. Alan knows as much about counting two tables as he does about sports handicapping, but he'll challenge the counting of multiple tables and not comment on the Singer 68% ATS five-games-a-week-for-two-years bullshit. And unlike the counting of two tables, the 68% bullshit can be researched -- nobody has done it for two years of NFL handicapping. Considering there are Las Vegas contests with hundreds and thousands of entrants going back decades, and published handicapper records in "Tipsters or Gypsters," The Sports Monitor, Handicapper's Report Card, and on various television shows, the lack of precedent puts Singer's claim in its proper ridiculous context.
Supposedly he has a million of fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Many of them gave him 20 to 100 dollars.
Obviously it is a very loyal (scam) fan base as they love his multiverse concept.
In 24 hours he raised over 15 million with the premise of giving his fans 4 secret novels within a certain amount of time.
Oddly enough he only has 400k in subs on his YouTube Channel but he is one of these authors who is very transparent in what he is doing and he usually delivers.
It makes one think about APing the shit out of writing, eh?
Trilogies are very hot these days so if you have an idea perhaps you should stretch it out into three very long epic parts.
Wait, is that redundant?
Very Long Epic... seems like it.
Just another example of what can be done when everyone says the math is against you.
One idea is to either get all woke or anti-woke and garner a following from your base and exploit the shit out of it through all forms of media.
Woke probably works much better with todays generation and climate if you can stomach the ideology.
Cosmere seems to be all the rage at the moment.
You've manufactured those details for years, without anyone ever asking for them, the same as any other tout would.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Rob's not an AP, so this "challenging AP's" stuff wouldn't apply to him.
He's just a civilian, who happens to be better at picking NFL games than you are.
From what I've read, he's always been willing to challenge you head-to-head in picking NFL games, but you want no part of that.
The only thing Rob is better than anyone at is lying and running his ugly mouth!
You should google Star Citizen.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by monetI'm not letting it "sit" lol... I'm just too comfortable, well funded, have no debt and lazy.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I have the complete outline and concept but like you say the hard part is actually writing all the details and dialogue out is the real work.
Probably just better to pitch the story and sell it for peanuts.
This is not the norm but I found it interesting as one could try to garner a loyal fan base and rape them through kickstarter.
"Fantasy Author Brandon Sanderson Makes Kickstarter History with Record-Breaking $41 Million Campaign."
Let's not forget that James Cameron was a Full Time Truck Driver while he was writing Terminator.
He got that idea from a nightmare.
I can relate as most of my story ideas have come from dreams/nightmares as well.
Jesus, that's some kickstarter. It's a shame there was no kickstarting when Stallone sold his Rocky script. He was living on the street and sold his dog for fifty bucks because he couldn't afford to feed him. After he sold the script, he bought his dog back.
How the hell do you make 40 Million with a kickstarter campaign?
In fact I'll do it for you:
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+...e-gws-wiz-serp
LOL...Queer eye for the straight guy right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
lol... wow and thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
For the future, when redietz gets serious about writing a book and wants to crowdfund it...
https://www.bookbaby.com/learn/kicks...ook-publishing
- Contribute $25 — Receive one book copy.
- Contribute $50 — Receive one book copy + special 11" x 17" poster.
- Contribute $100 — Receive two book copies + two special 11" x17" posters.
- Contribute $500 — Receive two book copies + two special 11" x17" posters + special thank you in the book credits.
Once your book project is fully funded, you would collect your funds from Kickstarter and hire BookBaby to print and ship your books and posters to your contributors.
You can play small ball too...
- Contribute $25 — Receive a signed book copy.
- Contribute $50 or more — Receive a signed book copy + a personal note from you thanking them for their generosity.
Fantastic film. I'm surprised that Michael Biehn didn't go on to have an A-list career afterwards. Nonetheless, he has had a career any actor would be proud of and obviously has a cult following since he is an excellent actor (also who's to say that even now his career could skyrocket though very unlikely).Quote:
Originally Posted by monet
Good Point(s)!Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Let's really piss Keystone off and change the subject.
How anyone can trust the Federal Government, Big Pharma, Insurance Companies and the so called Corona Virus Vaccines after this podcast is mind boggling.
The latest booster shot is a prime example of how they piggyback off the original medicine (vaccine) so they do not have to conduct human trials.
Eight (Mice) is Enough.
One of the comments, I just read, really hit home.
"Funny how the military pulled out of Afghanistan the minute they could'nt sell oxys longer."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnL7XWH8uoA
Amazing. So basically people are only eligible to be hired for jobs if they have proof of vaccination and can be fired from jobs they already have if they don't get a vaccination with something that had been so poorly tested. I guess it's totally unreasonable if someone is nervous about taking something that is basically untested and that has now been shown to have a huge risk of heart inflammation when taken by a population of people who have a very low covid-19 mortality rate (i.e. young men and teenagers) as a result of rolling out something so poorly tested.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetGood Point(s)!Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Let's really piss Keystone off and change the subject.
How anyone can trust the Federal Government, Big Pharma, Insurance Companies and the so called Corona Virus Vaccines after this podcast is mind boggling.
The latest booster shot is a prime example of how they piggyback off the original medicine (vaccine) so they do not have to conduct human trials.
Eight (Mice) is Enough.
One of the comments, I just read, really hit home.
"Funny how the military pulled out of Afghanistan the minute they could'nt sell oxys longer."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnL7XWH8uoA
We know for a fact that if you had the virus you are protected the same or more as the individual who got the shot(s).Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
According to Fauci, he is emphatic that if you had the Flu you are better protected against the Flu compared to someone who just got a Flu Shot.
Seems odd that employers would discriminate in this manner and most individuals have already caught Corona once or twice already.
Everyone knows the virus spreads without any symptoms lol.
Anyways, my wife now has carpal tunnel in both hands and trigger finger in two fingers.
Oddly enough this problem started after shot number 2.
She also had Tinnitus and Hypertension occur after shot number 2 as well.
Coincidence?
Funny how things changed from 2004...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_MeeYbYtWc
It sounds like in 2004 that Fauci had not been on Big Pharma's payroll like he is now. I'm sorry to hear about your wife's health issues. Of course, if she didn't get vaccinated she would not have been allowed to work since they all require it now and people who are already employed get fired from their jobs if they don't get vaccinated.Quote:
Originally Posted by monetWe know for a fact that if you had the virus you are protected the same or more as the individual who got the shot(s).Quote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
According to Fauci, he is emphatic that if you had the Flu you are better protected against the Flu compared to someone who just got a Flu Shot.
Seems odd that employers would discriminate in this manner and most individuals have already caught Corona once or twice already.
Everyone knows the virus spreads without any symptoms lol.
Anyways, my wife now has carpal tunnel in both hands and trigger finger in two fingers.
Oddly enough this problem started after shot number 2.
She also had Tinnitus and Hypertension occur after shot number 2 as well.
Coincidence?
Funny how things changed from 2004...
Fair points, but have you considered this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan MendelsonSlow down guys. Yes, I said this and I own it:
But I was not including proven ways to play with an advantage such as card counting or even edge sorting or even hole carding (see that jbjb?) and wheel clocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I was talking about the "far out claims" that get a pass... like counting two or three tables (sorry kewlj) and using a team with other people's cards and milking the casinos $20,000 a week without having to play more than that to keep the free play streaming in.
So yes there are legitimate methods to win.
I've never doubted traditional card counting. I was even at a casino for a demonstration of how a roulette dealer could target a group of four slots.
I personally have the illegal skill of dice sliding but I've used it only for demonstration purposes.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mdawg can edge sort.
I know hole carding happens.
But what I object to is every Tom, Dick and Harry who joins a forum and starts his first post with "I'm an advantage player..." and then asks a question typical of a first time gambler.
And I will always be suspect of those who claim to be money making APs who say how they win is a secret.
Yeah. Big secret.
That includes Double Up Bugs.
Everyone that shows up on an anonymous gambling forum is not necessarily a profitable AP even if they claim to be.
In every business or career there are below average performers, average performers, and top performers.
Take car sales as an example. A very high turnover job. Most people washout after a few months. The average performers probably make around what any average job pays. Then you have a small number of top performers who are very skilled and talented and willing to work very hard and can earn an excellent income.
If you see a Car sales job or any commission only sales job ad the ad will be written like anyone could come in & earn those high incomes. Can they? No. Only a small number of people who are skilled, talented & have the work ethic will be able to do that.
Does it mean its not possible for anyone to do? No, most people won’t be able too but the rare people with the talent, skills, & work ethic can.
I see AP or any business, career as no different.
Just for the record & some context at one point I was doing the freeplay system & it was very lucrative so I don’t doubt that some of the high numbers I’ve on forums seen are possible.
But you have to remember it is an insane amount of work. Figuring out where the offers are, generating the offers, traveling to pick them up. Your basically going to be working & traveling every waking minute and then trying to grab a few hours of sleep when u can. It’s not a healthy life style or a picnic, it takes a big toll,
It wasn’t for me, I’m happy earning enough to be comfortable & thats it.
And having done it for a few months I would say it’s certainly not for everyone. In fact most people probably couldn’t do it, & I don’t say that bcuz i think I’m better or smarter than anyone else. Its just that the amount of work, research, planning, travel, investment, time away from friends / family, & bad unhealthy lifestyle just wouldn’t work for most people as i found it didn’t work for me long term so I scaled back to get a balance between work & enjoyment.
DGenBen I think that's a very honest and worthwhile post. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by DGenBenFair points, but have you considered this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan MendelsonSlow down guys. Yes, I said this and I own it:
But I was not including proven ways to play with an advantage such as card counting or even edge sorting or even hole carding (see that jbjb?) and wheel clocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I was talking about the "far out claims" that get a pass... like counting two or three tables (sorry kewlj) and using a team with other people's cards and milking the casinos $20,000 a week without having to play more than that to keep the free play streaming in.
So yes there are legitimate methods to win.
I've never doubted traditional card counting. I was even at a casino for a demonstration of how a roulette dealer could target a group of four slots.
I personally have the illegal skill of dice sliding but I've used it only for demonstration purposes.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mdawg can edge sort.
I know hole carding happens.
But what I object to is every Tom, Dick and Harry who joins a forum and starts his first post with "I'm an advantage player..." and then asks a question typical of a first time gambler.
And I will always be suspect of those who claim to be money making APs who say how they win is a secret.
Yeah. Big secret.
That includes Double Up Bugs.
Everyone that shows up on an anonymous gambling forum is not necessarily a profitable AP even if they claim to be.
In every business or career there are below average performers, average performers, and top performers.
Take car sales as an example. A very high turnover job. Most people washout after a few months. The average performers probably make around what any average job pays. Then you have a small number of top performers who are very skilled and talented and willing to work very hard and can earn an excellent income.
If you see a Car sales job or any commission only sales job ad the ad will be written like anyone could come in & earn those high incomes. Can they? No. Only a small number of people who are skilled, talented & have the work ethic will be able to do that.
Does it mean its not possible for anyone to do? No, most people won’t be able too but the rare people with the talent, skills, & work ethic can.
I see AP or any business, career as no different.
Just for the record & some context at one point I was doing the freeplay system & it was very lucrative so I don’t doubt that some of the high numbers I’ve on forums seen are possible.
But you have to remember it is an insane amount of work. Figuring out where the offers are, generating the offers, traveling to pick them up. Your basically going to be working & traveling every waking minute and then trying to grab a few hours of sleep when u can. It’s not a healthy life style or a picnic, it takes a big toll,
It wasn’t for me, I’m happy earning enough to be comfortable & thats it.
And having done it for a few months I would say it’s certainly not for everyone. In fact most people probably couldn’t do it, & I don’t say that bcuz i think I’m better or smarter than anyone else. Its just that the amount of work, research, planning, travel, investment, time away from friends / family, & bad unhealthy lifestyle just wouldn’t work for most people as i found it didn’t work for me long term so I scaled back to get a balance between work & enjoyment.
This is actually one of he better post I’ve read on this board.
You must have a rigorous militant schedule to run big free play. It’s very time consuming and not for everyone. Constantly moving around the country to different markets and investing money months in advance often in completely different states. Most people don’t really like the road after awhile. You don’t have to move around the country but IMO its best. Eventually you wear out your welcome, or something better comes up.
I don’t think it’s necessarily a unhealthy lifestyle because most casinos have a nice gym and healthy food options. You need to make the right choices. Granted its not easy but the options are there. Sleep needs to be managed by anyone who spends significant time in casinos. That seems to be the most difficult
Now that I'm 65 and could not do it, one of the things that impresses me about my youth was that in the 90's, I covered at least seven miles most days walking in Las Vegas to check numbers. Checking numbers, cross-referencing, back-tracking if necessary. I would usually have a car just two days a week because the day-to-day checking was in fact easier on foot than driving/parking/driving/parking. I never appreciated how physically brutal that was until I could no longer do it. And in my youth, it didn't really bother me. It was just part of the routine.
Looking back, I don't think 10% of the population could have handled that routine (mail carriers excepted, of course) in LV heat. I had a cross-country/track background, so I never considered it a big deal. Now I do.
You can rent mobility scooters on the strip. I blast around the parking lots, hotels and casino floors in my unit. It goes 4.5 MPH and a full charge lasts 15.5 miles. It vastly speeds up everything I do and I can do it much longer. I can still walk but this this damn things just speeds up everything I do. It costs me money not to use it. And I like not being run down at the end of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Here's the next chair I buy in the link. It's lightweight, under 60 pounds, carries up to 400 pounds, runs 5 MPH and does about 15 miles on a full charge. The batteries are lightweight, just 4 pounds so you can pack around extra batteries in the basket underneath if you need more mileage in a day. And it'll fold up and fit in the trunk of a compact.
A lightweight foldable power chair will put you back in action, redietz.
https://quicknmobile.com/product/eag...er-wheelchair/
Thanks, mickey. These days, I figure I could keep with the chair for about 25 minutes. Then that would be the end of me.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou can rent mobility scooters on the strip. I blast around the parking lots, hotels and casino floors in my unit. It goes 4.5 MPH and a full charge lasts 15.5 miles. It vastly speeds up everything I do and I can do it much longer. I can still walk but this this damn things just speeds up everything I do. It costs me money not to use it. And I like not being run down at the end of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Here's the next chair I buy in the link. It's lightweight, under 60 pounds, carries up to 400 pounds, runs 5 MPH and does about 15 miles on a full charge. The batteries are lightweight, just 4 pounds so you can pack around extra batteries in the basket underneath if you need more mileage in a day. And it'll fold up and fit in the trunk of a compact.
A lightweight foldable power chair will put you back in action, redietz.
https://quicknmobile.com/product/eag...er-wheelchair/
I still get plenty of walking in even tho I have the chair. Think of the power chair as a car. The convenient store is a mile away. Do you want to walk, good exercise but takes more time, or drive to it, much quicker?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzThanks, mickey. These days, I figure I could keep with the chair for about 25 minutes. Then that would be the end of me.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou can rent mobility scooters on the strip. I blast around the parking lots, hotels and casino floors in my unit. It goes 4.5 MPH and a full charge lasts 15.5 miles. It vastly speeds up everything I do and I can do it much longer. I can still walk but this this damn things just speeds up everything I do. It costs me money not to use it. And I like not being run down at the end of the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Here's the next chair I buy in the link. It's lightweight, under 60 pounds, carries up to 400 pounds, runs 5 MPH and does about 15 miles on a full charge. The batteries are lightweight, just 4 pounds so you can pack around extra batteries in the basket underneath if you need more mileage in a day. And it'll fold up and fit in the trunk of a compact.
A lightweight foldable power chair will put you back in action, redietz.
https://quicknmobile.com/product/eag...er-wheelchair/
I've seen a gang of what looked to be Somalis cruising around casinos checking RRs. LV isn't what it used to be. Wonder how much is they're afraid fo being sued. Or maybe dudes are gone before someone in charge could make the call. Hard to police when the guys can claim some medical issues I guess.