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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

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Originally Posted by coach belly

No you can't, and more importantly...you haven't and won't.

You are comparing yourself to Singer & MDawg. The difference between you and Singer & MDawg, is that you are an admitted and proven liar, so nothing you write should be believed.

When you challenge your detractors to stand before you and prove you wrong, or witness you proving yourself right, then you can compare yourself to them.

But until you do, you are out of your mind, or just playing a character...an admitted and proven liar.

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He can prove it. He just WON'T.

He can prove anything. He just WON'T.

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Exactly! Why would I? seriously? Are you capable of not trolling for 2 minutes to answer that question?

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Because your whole identity on this planet seemed to be based on this idea of you being a blackjack counter. Being believed is super important to you and therefore valuable to you. Therefore you would want to prove things. Yes.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

But you can tell he really intended for people to believe it, and was upset when they didn't. That's why we got the indignant responses.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

I'm not sure what is more deluded thinking - you believing anyone believes your stories or you telling everyone you don't really care.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

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Originally Posted by MDawg

The truth is … UNKewlJ hasn’t spent 20 years playing blackjack. He’s spent 20 years trying to convince people that he’s been playing blackjack.

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Add to that the fact that nothing

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Originally Posted by MDawg

UNKewlJ ever posted has been proven to be true. Plenty has been proven to be false but absolutely nothing he has claimed or posted about has been verified or even backed up in any way other than that he plays some very low stakes video poker and red to green blackjack as obvious sugar daddy ploy (ploy, not play) cover. Someone playing twenty years and no corroboration of any of what he'd like us to believe? Pfft.

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and you get the real picture of a nobody, who'd like us to think he's done something other than peddled his behind.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

I'm rather certain he has money from something he feels shame over.
Most likely a prostitute

Pretending to be some hero AP gives him purpose and a sense of accomplishment.

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This forum grows more ridiculous every day. (is that even possible?) You have Rob Singer and Mdawg calling me a "serial liar".

Rob Singer...A guy who self published books full of his lies and nonsense. Who wrote a gambling column (for free) full of his lies and nonsense. Wasted Alan and Shackleford's time, doing video's and podcasts with his lies and nonsense. Not to mention 20 years on forums, where we got pictures in an RV at the dealership. Pictures of a bill of sale on a piece of paper with no company letterhead or logs and all signatures in the same handwriting. pictures of a safe with Amazon "prop" money.

What about the dog. After 7 months of posting daily win amounts, he was forced to post "I am about even". (and THAT wasn't even true. Mid 7 figure mansions. $100-$500 spread playing double deck blackjack on the strip FOR 10 straight hours....while winning $60K, 60 straight winning blackjack hands.

Come on man...these are the people calling me a liar! :confused:

And yes, at least I have admitted when I have had to lie and change some details to try to protect myself.

And by the way, it isn't even the casinos or related database companies that I really have to protect myself from anymore. It is the trolls, haters, doxers on this forum. I have had 2 members of this forum take matters off forum and either show up at my home, or (his own words) hire someone to find me. And a 3rd Red, threatened to.

So just shut the fuck up about who is a serial liar and even worse completely nuts and even dangerous.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

As Rob pointed out...a preponderance of evidence.

Add to that, an alleged 20 years card counting most of it allegedly in Vegas and yet not one AP of any ilk knows him or of him other than the few who outed him as a red to green small timer playing only as cover for male prostitution, notwithstanding his repeated claims (admittedly, conflicting claims) of having played on blackjack teams.

What has he been DOING all these years? Obviously not playing blackjack. Vegas is not that big a town. Not that many casinos really, not enough to hide in playing as much as UNKewlJ claims, for so many years.

By a posteriori reasoning, the male prostitution makes sense - meaning, since he's obviously lying about blackjack, then what has he been doing?

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

I'm rather certain he has money from something he feels shame over.
Most likely a prostitute

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You have to consider the obvious fact that he could not possibly be doing what he claims or he would have had far more sightings and someone would have popped up by now to say, yeah, I know him - but the only ones who have, have stated definitely that the UNKewl activities witnessed were something quite other than card counting.

Add to all that there is no one on the face of these forums who is more obsessed with trying to convince people that he is what he claims - and yet, not one iota of proof offered up, for anything. You can't possibly believe, V, that someone who spends so much time trying to convince people of whatever it is he claims to be doing, would not be willing to take the next step of proving himself.

If he's so inept that he stumbles into obvious lies all the time, as he has, he could never be so careful a person as to refrain from submitting proof, even inadvertently, unless - he has none to offer.

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Which is why this makes perfect sense:

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

It's not a troll it's an online fantasy life. Very different things.

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in fact the only possibility about UNKewlJ that does make sense.

Mdawg, your behavior on this forum is literally criminal. Not to mention violating any attorney oath you took. The only reason I haven't gone after you is because I would have to give up any anonymity I have left to do so, which I am sure you figured out.

You are a sleezy, low life of a person. Tasha, even if the shit on the floor stories are true, and the begging (which I know is true), is far better person than you.

And someday, you are going to push me or some other person that you troll and attack (and there are many) too far. I am sure I could find you in a millisecond if I wanted to.

Gosh what I would pay for a documentary into the true life of kewlj. If I could resell it then 10s of thousands but likely thousands on its own. Just what a fascinating dude. Swashbuckling counter and all that.

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Originally Posted by jdog

You do everything you accuse others of when it suits your purpose: racial slurs, threats, repeating embellishments or outright lies about others over and over. Obviously you are so deluded you have no idea even who you are. I'm coming to understand you must actually believe everything you say, even the lies you tell yourself about yourself. I agree with AinQ, I don't want to chase you off the forum either, just get help. Seriously you need a therapist to help you connect with reality.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I'll also say that it seems very important to you that people believe you.

You seem to descend into a much darker place when you battle with people on these forums.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

A lot has been said about you. I find it telling that you only focus on a few things. Especially the male prostitute thing. I am inclined to believe the things you focus in on refuting are the one's that hit closest to home.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Gosh what I would pay for a documentary into the true life of kewlj. If I could resell it then 10s of thousands but likely thousands on its own. Just what a fascinating dude. Swashbuckling counter and all that.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Kewl is cracking. You can see it right here in real time.

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Go get 'em KJ...these clowns got nothin'...

Mdawg is disrespectful to the forum and all members the way he shits all over every thread making a mess of them. Hoping to out someone as a liar is not a legitimate excuse for this disrespect.

It's obvious how kew is coming apart at the seams over mdawg's relentless-- but truthful and very much deserved--pounding into the ground of this lying online character with no life to speak of. Whenever kew starts whining about how mdawg or anyone else "lies" then you know the weak projection is in full swing.

I especially enjoy seeing kew's desperation level going into the red whenever he feels his lies aren't being believed, and how he's having a whole lotta trouble convincing others about anything.

V....you're really enjoying his suffering also, right? I mean, c-mon....you serve as fuel to make him keep looking more foolish. Kudos sir!

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

It's obvious how kew is coming apart at the seams over mdawg's relentless-- but truthful and very much deserved--pounding into the ground of this lying online character with no life to speak of. Whenever kew starts whining about how mdawg or anyone else "lies" then you know the weak projection is in full swing.

I especially enjoy seeing kew's desperation level going into the red whenever he feels his lies aren't being believed, and how he's having a whole lotta trouble convincing others about anything.

V....you're really enjoying his suffering also, right? I mean, c-mon....you serve as fuel to make him keep looking more foolish. Kudos sir!

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It is almost funny to read Rob's delusions. What he wants to be instead of what is. How he thinks or wants everyone to be bothered by this or that or jealous of him, which no one is. Funny for about a minute, and then just sad.

I don't care what someone like a Rob Singer, a has been of a never was, thinks. I really don't. Ditto for this dawg person. And I am quite sure MrV doesn't care either. Druff allowed these trolls to take over this forum, which killed it beyond anything but a troll forum that people visit for an occasional laugh.

Although I visit the forum almost daily to see if Druff or Monet has posted any sports picks that I want to tag along with, I go days without reading anything else, and weeks without responding to any of it. THAT is how much it bothers or means to me. :D

And really, I visit looking for sports picks to tag along with, but the reality is that I do just as well with my own picks, which I make from a variety of angles. I am running about 53% for the year, when all I need is 50% or even slightly less, to make money with the bonuses.

Just to infuriate the haters, this year has already become my best year EVER as an AP. Happened over a month ago, while there was still a quarter of the year to go. And the best part is that only slightly more than 25% of that is from my traditional casino blackjack play. More than 50% from sports betting which I don't even need to be in Vegas to do. (except the circa account for some reason). I have a total of 5 different streams of income from different AP play. I'm not just a card counter, grinding Vegas casinos anymore. ;)

Now if I decide to post and engage with these fools (feed the trolls), it is for entertainment purposes, usually on a weekend day while I am watching sports. It is fun to read them tell me what I am so bothered by and all there other complete delusions about not just me, but MrV and others who are only here to laugh at them.

Good stuff!!

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Originally Posted by MDawg

AxelWolf already publicly and privately stated that he debunked all of UNKewlJ's fraudulent sports bets claims.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

What’s crazy about all this is that any normal person would realize that his ever changing story and desperate attempts to put out fires is just confirming that his story is false, and making him look even worse, but a sociopathic liar can’t help himself, and keeps lying just to cover up other lies.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I really don't care what people think about me.

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which is why

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Originally Posted by Gottlob1

KJ keeps trying to manually rephrase the same old nervous essays over and over. Can you imagine how much time and angst that takes?

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One other thing. AutomaticMonkey. Those with blackjack roots know who he is.....long time blackjack player/AP. He apparently has moved to Vegas sometime recently (he used to talk down about Vegas) and has begun posting at WoV.

I said yesterday, one of my achievements is that Mdawg doesn't post his fantasy claims at WoV anymore. I almost with he did. If AutoMonk were to read some of that fiction crap, he would go to town on Mdawg. It would be fun to watch. But then again, I don't wish that on AurtoMonk. He is probably too smart to get involved with that anyway.

We need some more 10X Multipliers, a mere two by 9am PST are not enough.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

I tend to publicly stay out of things when I don't exactly know what's going on. You should try it sometime. I may have expressed a paragraph or so on what MDawg's deal may be. Frankly I don't care.

At a minimum one person I know has met the guy and says he is a decent person. That gives him 10x more credibility than you have.

Most people reading this site just show up to watch the FraudJ trainwreck.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Dawg, I believe his claims more than I do yours and Robert's.

No, I don't believe everything he says, but I believe the gist of it, i.e. came to sin city and has managed to eke out a fair living counting cards plus other AP..

Sure, it could be that all his claims have been nothing but a huge lie, a mega-troll to top the one you've been advancing for years.

Whatever..."IT DON'T MEAN NOTHIN'.

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It's not a troll it's an online fantasy life. Very different things.

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^^^^^THIS^^^^^

In a fuckin nutshell

Frankly I don't give a flying fuck whether KJ is what he says or whether he's played y'all like a fiddle.

Supporting him is a game I play "just because."

No, I'm not saying he lies, I'm saying I really don't care if he lies.

Hell, there's a shit-load of lies being told on this forum, and not by KJ.

Not that it matters.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Frankly I don't give a flying fuck whether KJ is what he says or whether he's played y'all like a fiddle.

Supporting him is a game I play "just because."

No, I'm not saying he lies, I'm saying I really don't care if he lies.

Hell, there's a shit-load of lies being told on this forum, and not by KJ.

Not that it matters.

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So do you consider yourself bisexual?

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

So do you consider yourself bisexual?

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Not me, I'm bipedal.

Thanks for asking though, it takes courage to ask such poignant questions.

UNKewlJ is verifiably doing nuttin' other than a lil red to green play as cover for sugar daddy plays, now he's segueing into fantasy sports betting after giving up on the blackjack fables.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

It is about you lying constantly !!!!

This whole math thing. Let me tell you something, Kewl. To the sharper people on here it becomes increasingly apparently that you based you whole facade around being believable. Where the math "works". When you're in a really bad spot you fall back on the "why don't you believe me because the math works". It is sad. I'm not sure what drives you to continue with this charade.

Anyone thinking I am bullying this dude REMEMBER he just threatened to dox someone. In addition, even though he calls people "sand n" when it suits him - he threatened to call the local news station to put pressure on Druff.

Kewl, the improbability of what all you have claimed is 0. Absolutely 0. This is why we get annoyed with you. Go find some other forum to give everyone gambling advice. JFC

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Not only can't she give the forums a break (after vowing to stay away umpteen times) but she also can't help but lie, constantly, even when nothing is going on, not even male prostitution, which the word on the street says has been going soft for UNKewlJ lately too.

Meantime, the casino related Adventures of MDawg will continue, whenever I am inside a casino playing.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

My detractors are 100% free to prove me wrong. No one has. No one can.

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Well we also can't prove you don't have a vagina either. So probably not a lot of value in those statements.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I go days without reading anything else, and weeks without responding to any of it. THAT is how much it bothers or means to me. :D

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It seems you have been spending less time here... good for you!

She's biting her nails and trying her damnedest to not 10X Multipler after 10X Multiplier, with at best, qualified, success.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I go days without reading anything else!

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Exactly.

The proof of mental illness however, is that she thinks she's been other than outed more than outed as a proven and admitted liar. Such is the nature of the sociopathic liar....

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Kewl you've made a joke of yourself. I don't know why you expect anything less.

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It is rather fascinating (and entertaining) to watch someone so hopelessly lost. Cheap, almost free (does cost a little time spent) entertainment.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

He would be a fascinating person to watch on something like Soft White Underbelly. Seeing him out of character explaining what led him to be Kewl. Ultimately he is harmless as rationally you have to stop taking him as a serious person.

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Counselor, counselor...how unbecoming of you, a member of the California bar...calling an avowed homosexual "she" and "her" in order to slur your detractor.

What's next, kicking the canes out from old people?

Taking candy from babies?

Beating your wife?

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Beating your wife?

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When did you stop?

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Beating your wife?

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When did you stop?

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If you really MUST use that joke, at least say it correctly... it goes

"Have you stopped beating your wife?"

The "joke" of course is that either a "yes" or "no" includes an admission that you're a wife beater.

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Beating your wife?

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When did you stop?

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If you really MUST use that joke, at least say it correctly... it goes

"Have you stopped beating your wife?"

The "joke" of course is that either a "yes" or "no" includes an admission that you're a wife beater.

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No one else thought it was a joke...

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

It's obvious how kew is coming apart at the seams over mdawg's relentless-- but truthful and very much deserved--pounding into the ground of this lying online character with no life to speak of. Whenever kew starts whining about how mdawg or anyone else "lies" then you know the weak projection is in full swing.

I especially enjoy seeing kew's desperation level going into the red whenever he feels his lies aren't being believed, and how he's having a whole lotta trouble convincing others about anything.

V....you're really enjoying his suffering also, right? I mean, c-mon....you serve as fuel to make him keep looking more foolish. Kudos sir!

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It is almost funny to read Rob's delusions. What he wants to be instead of what is. How he thinks or wants everyone to be bothered by this or that or jealous of him, which no one is. Funny for about a minute, and then just sad.

I don't care what someone like a Rob Singer, a has been of a never was, thinks. I really don't. Ditto for this dawg person. And I am quite sure MrV doesn't care either. Druff allowed these trolls to take over this forum, which killed it beyond anything but a troll forum that people visit for an occasional laugh.

Although I visit the forum almost daily to see if Druff or Monet has posted any sports picks that I want to tag along with, I go days without reading anything else, and weeks without responding to any of it. THAT is how much it bothers or means to me. :D

And really, I visit looking for sports picks to tag along with, but the reality is that I do just as well with my own picks, which I make from a variety of angles. I am running about 53% for the year, when all I need is 50% or even slightly less, to make money with the bonuses.

Just to infuriate the haters, this year has already become my best year EVER as an AP. Happened over a month ago, while there was still a quarter of the year to go. And the best part is that only slightly more than 25% of that is from my traditional casino blackjack play. More than 50% from sports betting which I don't even need to be in Vegas to do. (except the circa account for some reason). I have a total of 5 different streams of income from different AP play. I'm not just a card counter, grinding Vegas casinos anymore. ;)

Now if I decide to post and engage with these fools (feed the trolls), it is for entertainment purposes, usually on a weekend day while I am watching sports. It is fun to read them tell me what I am so bothered by and all there other complete delusions about not just me, but MrV and others who are only here to laugh at them.

Good stuff!!

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Translation: "HELP PEOPLE!!--These guys have completely undressed me for the phony I really am, and if someone doesn't step in SOON to help my lies to be believed, I'm gonna hang myself!!"

Pure fucking gold.....

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Originally Posted by Ozzy

Rob, you certainly have the UNKOOL1 number though, you have him pegged ! :)

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When did you stop?

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If you really MUST use that joke, at least say it correctly... it goes

"Have you stopped beating your wife?"

The "joke" of course is that either a "yes" or "no" includes an admission that you're a wife beater.

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No one else thought it was a joke...

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Yeah, you're probably right...he keeps beating her, even when she doesn't deserve it.

Sadists do what sadists do.

Thanks for clarifying.

6/5 BP with the progressive royal at only $7k? Yikes! About a 98.4% game when it was hit.

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6/5 BP with the progressive royal at only $7k? Yikes! About a 98.4% game when it was hit.

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I know I lost thousands in ev.

I couldn't let that progressive go I had to throw a few hundred in and try to hit it.

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6/5 BP with the progressive royal at only $7k? Yikes! About a 98.4% game when it was hit.

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So my thoughts on 6/5 BP not that anyone cares...

It is only ONE hand that is sacrificed. I don't get that many full houses. I put on just under 10,000 points while doing this meaning I put $5,000 coin in at this place. So 1000 hands of Video Poker.

Hands to note:

Dealt 4 x 10's
Dealt 4 x Queens's
4 x Deuces
4 x Aces
4 x 5's
4 x Jacks

I think maybe 25-30 total full houses? I did try counting...

Flushes / Straights / 2-Pairs all pay the same as a full pay 8/5 game...

I do make one adjustment to my game playing 6/5 Bonus... That is, if I'm dealt AAAXX Full-house I go for the 4-Aces. Didn't hit this time.

If I did get 30 full houses, that means I got shorted 300 credits = $300.

Sacrifice for the extra $2200 on the royal I suppose...

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Mdawg, you can troll and play your games until the cows come home (again), but it doesn't change the fact that almost everything you claim is voodoo, or defies reality (the math and the way casinos work). You are a guy telling a story, a fiction story...nothing more. And all your name calling and attacks can't and won't change that.

People can say what they want about me (and do), believe what they want about me (and they do), but nothing I have ever said about blackjack and what I do defied the math or the way things work. As a matter of fact, players playing blackjack that listened to me, and specifically when I explained how I do different things and why, geared toward my primary goal at the time of longevity, would have benefited and I know some have.

But not a damn person anywhere has ever benefited from a single voodoo nonsense thing someone like you or Singer has ever said. Like me or not....for whatever reason....THAT is the difference.

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Technically, kewlJ is incorrect (my brain is fried from memorizing stats for hours, so I'll take a break to chime in). I have pointed out how he is wrong vis-a-vis this stuff, but he refuses to acknowledge the flaws in his Singer storyline.

God forbid I espouse Singerian "wisdom," but I've made these points before.

(1) If you ignore the vp alleged analytics of Mr. Singer, and simply take his general recommendations at face value (hosts are evil creatures, you need to be able to get up instantly from playing, playing any casino game to get bonuses is wrong, sitting at a vp machine or casino table for hours on end in a smoke-filled casino is health-wise dumb, and so on), they make plenty of sense. Playing an alleged positive EV game that gives you emphysema is not positive EV. You lose hours, you pay physical and medical prices, and you never really know what the cost will be long-term, so parading what you are doing in-the-now as "+EV" is borderline nuts. You may wind up on oxygen 20 years hence. His harping on addiction, whether it's his opinion or speaking from his personal experience or both, is helpful.

(2) Specifically, from a comps perspective, the way Singer played video poker with his level jumping and superficial whackjob-ism, undoubtedly gets you more comps and more notice than playing like a pro. It's conceivable that he gets categorized in a completely different, player-friendly way than any AP, and if the bulk of play is at low levels, then he may be doing as well from a Pyrrhic perspective (sacrifice some cash to get mega-comps) as classic low-level video poker APs. It's almost a bizarro Max Rubin kind of thing.

Back to work. carry on.

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Red, are you forgetting that at times Singer said or alluded to that he didn't play rated. Didn't want or need points and multiplier days. He won by his SPS and "special plays". Are you forgetting that, because now you are making him out to be some sort of comp hustling genius. Somebody either Singer, or you on his behalf is revising and re-telling the stories.

And yes...STOP distracting me. :D I am trying to get my sports picks all organized for the weekend. Can't make some of them until this evening (half juice Friday evening), but try to get the work done ahead of time.

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Singer has maintained for 20 years that playing for comps is stupid. I’ve always agreed with that even when we were feuding.

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Red, are you forgetting that at times Singer said or alluded to that he didn't play rated. Didn't want or need points and multiplier days. He won by his SPS and "special plays". Are you forgetting that, because now you are making him out to be some sort of comp hustling genius. Somebody either Singer, or you on his behalf is revising and re-telling the stories.

And yes...STOP distracting me. :D I am trying to get my sports picks all organized for the weekend. Can't make some of them until this evening (half juice Friday evening), but try to get the work done ahead of time.

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I haven't forgotten anything. To claim that Singer went unrated is somewhat silly, both silly for Singer and silly for you. His smiling face was on the cover of Gaming Today half the issues for about a decade. That means his countenance was seen every week by literally tens of thousands of people in every casino and especially every sports book. If people didn't know who he was, then that's on them.

And before you try to make the argument that but, but, but Singer said he wasn't rated, you should realize that it doesn't matter if he plugged his card in or not. Those were the days of discretionary comps. Whether he had his card in or not was largely irrelevant.

And before you tell me that I'm wrong, please bear in mind that I was getting probably three-quarters of my comps at the time via discretionary. So yeah, all I had to do was ask, card or not. People had some idea who I was.

And I also realize that what I just wrote kind of undermines the entire man-about-town, under-the-radar vibe kewlJ tries to maintain vis-a-vis his blackjack playing. Again, Las Vegas is largely like Cheers....everybody knows your name, or if not your name, your story. So hard to walk into a place after 10 years and claim you're The Chameleon (that's a reference for really old Spider-Man fans).

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Ever since the cards came out a machine player ain’t getting Jack shit for comps if he don’t use a card. Also, it takes a casino host to write discretionary. As an advantage player do I want to die a quick death? I’ll just go get a casino host. My card benefits will be wiped out lickedy split.

Ditz, get it thru your brain dead head that casino hosts are trained to cull out AP’s.

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Frankly I don't give a flying fuck whether KJ is what he says or whether he's played y'all like a fiddle.

Supporting him is a game I play "just because."

No, I'm not saying he lies, I'm saying I really don't care if he lies.

Hell, there's a shit-load of lies being told on this forum, and not by KJ.

Not that it matters.

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So do you consider yourself bisexual?

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I don't get the question in this content. He supports Kewlj doesn't mean he's bisexual. Hell, I used to support Kewlj before he turned on me and I'm not bisexual. :confused: Besides IIRC, Mr. V is married to a Woman and has biological children and has NEVER shown any indication that he has ever liked men romantically. :confused:

As Coach Belly has said, what other reason for even pretending to support someone who not only lies...but lied to your face. And V isn't any kind of person who would simply turn the other cheek, so why keep taking it up the arse from UNKewlJ?

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V, there has to be some rational explanation for why someone would keep taking it up the ass smile and keep asking for more. And I am talking about you, not UNKewlJ. With him it's mental illness and he has nothing to lose.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

If I had to ask myself and wonder why someone would stay and keep taking a pounding while taking into account all the bad things they claim have happened to them....

I would have to guess that it's all BS, therefore nothing bad has ever happened to them, and therefore there's no real reason to leave/ stop.

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What's your excuse?

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Originally Posted by MisterV

I'd prefer to have the case exist than to conclude KJ lied to me; not that he owes me the truth, but I really wouldn't like it at all.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8K16dt174g

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Originally Posted by MDawg

As Coach Belly has said, what other reason for even pretending to support someone who not only lies...but lied to your face. And V isn't any kind of person who would simply turn the other cheek, so why keep taking it up the arse from UNKewlJ?

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You can think that I'm gay if it somehow slakes your thirst for retribution; hell, accuse me of killing Jimmy Hoffa while you're at why dontcha?

BTW I've never had any problem with criticism of me by KJ: no doubt it was well deserved: I mean, at times I can come across as a real ass hole, and there once was a time when I didn't defend him.

But I believe the gist of his claims, i.e. gay, card counter, lives in a condo not the tunnels, not a prostitute: fact is it is those false, scurrilous claims made by the hound and others that caused me to side with the guy.

I never met KJ and never intend to, but we both enjoy skewering his haters.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

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Originally Posted by MDawg

As Coach Belly has said, what other reason for even pretending to support someone who not only lies...but lied to your face. And V isn't any kind of person who would simply turn the other cheek, so why keep taking it up the arse from UNKewlJ?

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You can think that I'm gay if it somehow slakes your thirst for retribution; hell, accuse me of killing Jimmy Hoffa while you're at why dontcha?

BTW I've never had any problem with criticism of me by KJ: no doubt it was well deserved: I mean, at times I can come across as a real ass hole, and there once was a time when I didn't defend him.

But I believe the gist of his claims, i.e. gay, card counter, lives in a condo not the tunnels, not a prostitute: fact is it is those false, scurrilous claims made by the hound and others that caused me to side with the guy.

I never met KJ and never intend to, but we both enjoy skewering his haters.

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Skewering the haters .. singer walks into the skewers but that doesn't count.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

fact is

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Which are facts?

That you believe his claims?
That his claims are true?
That others' claims about him are false?

That others' claims about him cause you to side with him, whether those claims are false or not?

Chill out, coach.

The "fact" is that the claims of living in tunnels and being a male prostitute are complete, unsubstantiated, fabricated bullshit.

Please make a note of it.

Zero proof or corroboration of Max's claim of KJ being Asianr, for example: he had zero clue as to the ID of the guy he saw.

No, these small minded fucknozzles just like to stir the pot...just like we do.

Our difference is that I don't lie and unlike yours my posts are not obtuse.

Still, whom you goin' believe - stand up guy MaxPen, or admitted and proven liar UNKewlJ?

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

There's no doubt I have the right guy. Like I said, "I can pick you out of a police line up"

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And on top of MaxPen we have AxelWolf's belief that he spotted UNKewlJ in all her Asiatic glory, with her husband. Wolf is less certain, but add the two up, and you have two people with no reason to lie, while UNKewlJ would have every reason.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

Wrong

You're black hair tanned Asian looking fella. Pac Islander fits very well. Do you honestly think people would believe you are describing yourself after all you have supposedly done to protect your identity. You can't make this shit up....lol

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Still, whom you goin' believe - stand up guy MaxPen, or admitted and proven liar UNKewlJ?

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

There's no doubt I have the right guy. Like I said, "I can pick you out of a police line up"

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And on top of MaxPen we have AxelWolf's belief that he spotted UNKewlJ in all her Asiatic glory, with her husband. Wolf is less certain, but add the two up, and you have two people with no reason to lie, while UNKewlJ would have every reason.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

Wrong

You're black hair tanned Asian looking fella. Pac Islander fits very well. Do you honestly think people would believe you are describing yourself after all you have supposedly done to protect your identity. You can't make this shit up....lol

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"Stand up guy MaxPen" ?? Come on. On this forum, MaxPen does little but troll. For years he has trolled mickeycrimm, with gay slurs, mocking mickey's nomad lifestyle from decades ago before he settled into being a AP. And even has suggested that mickey isn't much of an AP. I have no doubt Maxpen is the top AP many say he is, but on this forum he trolls.

I have no idea who may have run into me and or my partner. For more than a decade I was playing blackjack almost everyday at different casino mostly in Las Vegas. And my partner was playing VP in many of the same casinos, until he passed. I would think some of the Vegas based APs would have run into one or the other or both of us. And Maxpen and Axelwolf would have been two I thought might have.

BUT both MaxPen and Axelwolf have suggested I am Asian or pacific Islander when I am not and am not even close. So they either are thinking of the wrong person or are playing games. That is really all there is to it. And this Mdawg troll just repeats what he likely KNOWS is not true.

There is a top AP who runs or used to run blackjack teams, that apparently came to Vegas a decade ago, and looked me up. Claims he watched me play a couple times. Funny, no mention from him of me being Asian or anything else.

I don't care really about the Asian trolling comments. Helps me really. Anything that puts doubt in the minds of casino or database people is a plus for me. But it is just more of the trolling and lying on this forum.....most of it done by Mdawg the guy calling everyone else a liar.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

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Originally Posted by MDawg

And yet, the first of many 10X Multipliers!

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#2, and counnting!

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#3, and counnting!

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Originally Posted by MDawg

One thing you can tell, when UNKewlJ makes with the all bold sentences one after another something has really gotten to him. You can practically see the hand cocked onto his side, the bent elbow and the high pitched whiny voice complaining, "Now wayyyyt a minute, Misterrrrr."

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

There is a top AP who runs or used to run blackjack teams, that apparently came to Vegas a decade ago, and looked me up. Claims he watched me play a couple times. Funny, no mention from him of me being Asian or anything else.

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Funny, no mention of UNKewLyingJ from this supposed AP...whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

Funny these "AP friends" are not known by dozens of verified and known APs.:cool:

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

There is a clear trend that has developed now. All of KewlJ's implied associates are turning out to be other invented characters in his years of lies. ...RIP

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

The fact that nobody knows anybody that knows KJ, despite his claim to have worked on AP teams etc., like the fact that his supposed backrooming left no trace online despite supposedly being covered by multiple local news networks, is actually extremely damning.

As I've said before KJ has become a victim of his own success (as a fraud that is). You can claim for a few years to have been a LV counter who doesn't know anyone, you can't keep the story going for 20 years without it becoming crushingly improbable.

Maybe that's why he faked his death way back when. He knew he couldn't keep the story up. But then he realized not being able to post on the forums was a fate worse than death.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

You have to figure about how after all these years of claiming that he has worked with this or that "AP," that this or that "AP" knows what happened to him here or there (including his lie about how various "APs" have contacted him about his fictitious backrooming incident after hearing about it), the only thing verified about him by multiple actual persons is that he has played a little red and green blackjack in the company of a sugar daddy.

THAT (to use an UNKewl introductory intensifier) says it all.

By now if there were any truth to any of what he claims something other than verification for his being a male prostitute would have come out.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I don't care really about the Asian trolling comments. Helps me really.

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At least after some weeks of deliberation, UNKewLyingJ is getting with the MDawg program!

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Originally Posted by MDawg

The fact of the matter is, someone who cries buckets over anonymity to the point of threatening with pistol, sword, and dirty deed to "get" anyone who uncloaks her, would not go to such lengths to try to establish what she looks like, or does not look like.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

I deny being Asian because I am not Asian.

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And such is the contradictory fraud that is UNKewlJ.

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Is it really that easy to establish that UNKewLyingJ is a Fraud?

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Originally Posted by Gottlob1

The thing about KJ - if you actually read what he writes - is that he constantly echoes the words/phrases and themes of the immediately previous replies by others.

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Yes it is.

This sand nigger continues his complete obsession and stalking of me. 3 consecutive posts within 5 minutes.

At this point he has surpassed Singer as the biggest (most) liar on this forum and surpassed Tasha as the biggest retard. What an asshole.

Don't hate me just because I'm beautiful.

And have your lying fraudulent number pegged, using little more than your own lying contradictory words!