When Weakness Prevails, Show Them The Meaning of Strength

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Originally Posted by Seedvalue

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Originally Posted by MisterV

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Originally Posted by Seedvalue

Yeah I meant 200 million years is what he said I drive and post while running people off the road. I also forgot you as a retired accident lawyer lol a profession that brings less value to the world then a crack dealer knows all .

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I did P.I. for about 25 years then transitioned into only family practice.

I am however curious about the basis for you low opinion of PI attorneys, given the fact that without a knowledgeable advocate helping them an injured claimant would be steam-rolled by insurance companies.

BTW what do YOU do, or what DID you do, other than fuck around in casinos and on casino message boards, i.e. what do / did you do to earn a living in this wicked world?

You like to shit on lawyers, so now it's my turn to shit on you.

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What have I done ? Provided over 1200 jobs over multiple years through various business i own, because the money I make beating scummy ass casinos I put to work outside of gambling. Again child there are levels to this game.

Lawyers do very little for society in general they are one of the reasons for the higher cost of living IMO. Yes there are some vary narrow situations that lawyers can help, and show benefits but overall they are a net negative. Crack dealers at least most likely employee under privileged people, and give them a way to make a living.

Kinda of hard to shit on me if we measure success by how much opportunity one has created for others. I would bet at least half my net worth against you in this comparison. You probably measure success by how many watches you own or something material.

Regarding advantage players in general I would say yes lawyers are a tic above them in relationship to value creation for society. I’m on the record that what advantage players do in a vacuum provides little value. However like I said there are levels to this game , and life is not static.

Yeah but cool story bro about being a PI

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If there were no attorneys how would the little guy stand ANY chance at anything? The rich would just do absolutely anything they wished ? We'd be doubly fucked. I'm not sure how civilization would work out of some theocracy. We'd be more like Russia and less like the US.. More like China...

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Originally Posted by Seedvalue

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Mister V I BEG YOU TO GO EASY ON THEM.

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Is that all he has ? Some materialistic lawyer who has provided basically nothing for others his entire life ? Interesting take. You seem to idolize this man who just took a test that anyone with a semi functional brain could pass. Yawn

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For acting so smart....

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

If there were no attorneys how would the little guy stand ANY chance at anything? The rich would just do absolutely anything they wished ? We'd be doubly fucked. I'm not sure how civilization would work out of some theocracy. We'd be more like Russia and less like the US.. More like China...

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You are still trolling.
You are still talking crazy.

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Originally Posted by monet

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

If there were no attorneys how would the little guy stand ANY chance at anything? The rich would just do absolutely anything they wished ? We'd be doubly fucked. I'm not sure how civilization would work out of some theocracy. We'd be more like Russia and less like the US.. More like China...

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You are still trolling.
You are still talking crazy.

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Goddammit I'd forgotten.

It runs deep.

Thank you for calling me out. I'll go back to trying to not troll.

Actually what you quoted isn't a troll but others have been.

So I guess your idea would be to not have attorneys only judges? Or are you just anti-attorney?

PS I am not sure I've really trolled much except Singer. Calling out bs with sarcasm, is that even trolling?

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

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Originally Posted by MisterV

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Originally Posted by coach belly

Did anybody else have any kind of wager with Singer about a W2G or anything else?

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Didn't MP have a $700K wager with Rob?

They were to meet at SP, IIRC, but Max said Singer no-showed.

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Technically no. Because after $50k was breached I said escrow would be necessary. He claimed to have arranged something with Nersesian for $700k. But we all know, except for the hobo, how that turned out.

I was however willing to bet whatever he could have mustered up. But we now know any future entertaining such bullshit us a complete waste of time. Except the hobo and coach dumbass think Singer's still in the game.....RIP

I want to congratulate Alan on only being the 3rd dumbest forum member.

Maybe 4th as Tasha never weighed in.

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You demanded Rob escrow first to obfuscate. No one is going to bet that much money and you know it. You don't have 700K to escrow, poser pro. And save your "I"ll bet you this" bullshit. I don't make bets over the internet. To many bullshit artists like you.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Yep, that's a cursor. But Rob has left himself an out. This is from the first paragraph of post # 47 of this thread:

"I've been having troubles trying to get pictures posted but I think it's solved. For some reason this system has been telling me the files are too large and/or the site is experiencing problems, so I went thru hoops to get the above and several other pics posted."

Everyone can use their imaginations to surmise what Rob is going to say about this.

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Bump. From Rob's words above it's a no brainer what he will say about the picture being taken off a computer.

Since he says above that he had to jump thru hoops to get the pic uploaded to VCT he will say that the pic wouldn't upload from his phone so he sent the pic to his computer.....then the pic wouldn't upload from his computer....so he took a pic of it with another phone then uploaded it to VCT.

So the Brokeback Boys are really back to square one in proving Rob didn't hit the jackpot.

What IS clear is how embarrassingly bad the Brokebacks are as investigators. They couldn't even find those cursors in the screenshots. LMAO....

PS: If the pic came off the internet then find the damn thing

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Yep, that's a cursor. But Rob has left himself an out. This is from the first paragraph of post # 47 of this thread:

"I've been having troubles trying to get pictures posted but I think it's solved. For some reason this system has been telling me the files are too large and/or the site is experiencing problems, so I went thru hoops to get the above and several other pics posted."

Everyone can use their imaginations to surmise what Rob is going to say about this.

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Bump. From Rob's words above it's a no brainer what he will say about the picture being taken off a computer.

Since he says above that he had to jump thru hoops to get the pic uploaded to VCT he will say that the pic wouldn't upload from his phone so he sent the pic to his computer.....then the pic wouldn't upload from his computer....so he took a pic of it with another phone then uploaded it to VCT.

So the Brokeback Boys are really back to square one in proving Rob didn't hit the jackpot.

What IS clear is how embarrassingly bad the Brokebacks are as investigators. They couldn't even find those cursors in the screenshots. LMAO....

PS: If the pic came off the internet then find the damn thing

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Mickey you really never have struck me as a dumb person. In fact, you seem pretty street smart from my view. Alan and Coach Belly are common morons but Rob sure leads the 3 of you around like the Pied Piper, only instead of using a flute he uses his dick

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Originally Posted by Keystone

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Yep, that's a cursor. But Rob has left himself an out. This is from the first paragraph of post # 47 of this thread:

"I've been having troubles trying to get pictures posted but I think it's solved. For some reason this system has been telling me the files are too large and/or the site is experiencing problems, so I went thru hoops to get the above and several other pics posted."

Everyone can use their imaginations to surmise what Rob is going to say about this.

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Bump. From Rob's words above it's a no brainer what he will say about the picture being taken off a computer.

Since he says above that he had to jump thru hoops to get the pic uploaded to VCT he will say that the pic wouldn't upload from his phone so he sent the pic to his computer.....then the pic wouldn't upload from his computer....so he took a pic of it with another phone then uploaded it to VCT.

So the Brokeback Boys are really back to square one in proving Rob didn't hit the jackpot.

What IS clear is how embarrassingly bad the Brokebacks are as investigators. They couldn't even find those cursors in the screenshots. LMAO....

PS: If the pic came off the internet then find the damn thing

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Mickey you really never have struck me as a dumb person. In fact, you seem pretty street smart from my view. Alan and Coach Belly are common morons but Rob sure leads the 3 of you around like the Pied Piper, only instead of using a flute he uses his dick

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Hey, Keystoner. How's the homo life? What I'm doing has gone clean over your head. If you think Alan and Belly are morons then YOU are the moron.

Alan doesn't know gambling very well but, contrary to what the Brokebacks think, I think he's a good news journalist overall. He sure puts redietz to shame. Redietz has no clue what objective journalism is.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

A yes or no answer would be great.

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No so great that you wouldn't provide one when asked a direct question, right?

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

Where did I suggest it did?

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That's not a yes or no answer, it's a dodge of some sort.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

I said escrow would be necessary.

I was however willing to bet whatever he could have mustered up.

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That's a lie. How much did you put in escrow?

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

If you think Alan and Belly are morons then YOU are the moron.

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Without question, Keystone is the moron.

He doesn't understand what's going on, all he has is dick jokes.

He's still butt hurt over the last time he got wrecked here...

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Keystone was banned on August 19. Five days later, he made a new account named "Elaine M", which quickly jumped into trolling Alan. So I banned that account.

He has been creating new accounts using AT&T cell phone IPs, as if that's going to hide who he is.

Keystone: I banned you

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Personally, I think everyone should just acknowledge that Rob.Singer obviously won the 1.5 million jackpot. Just like he conquered the Double Up bug. And just like he tallied years of winning via his video poker systems. And Todd Witteles should come on board and verify everything from a professional gambler and math perspective.

What would better suit this forum and establish it as a sanctum sanctorum for those truly in the gambling know than having Rob.Singer photobombing the forum with pics of 700K, hopefully including more than one or two actual C-Notes, but whatever works.

Rob probably won a 5 million dollar jackpot sometime in his international travels, but has been too modest to post it. Everyone should send him, coach, and mickey PMs begging that Rob please post all of his winning pics, not just the humble ones.

This forum truly deserves Rob.Singer as flagship poster. It's a match made in heaven.

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Originally Posted by redietz

This forum truly deserves Rob.Singer as flagship poster. It's a match made in heaven.

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I agree. Watching him make the Brokeback Boys jump thru hoops and bray like seals is hilarious. Lots of funny stuff going on.

Watching all of you retards keep talking about him is stupid.

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Originally Posted by redietz

Personally, I think everyone should just acknowledge that Rob.Singer obviously won the 1.5 million jackpot. Just like he conquered the Double Up bug. And just like he tallied years of winning via his video poker systems. And Todd Witteles should come on board and verify everything from a professional gambler and math perspective.

What would better suit this forum and establish it as a sanctum sanctorum for those truly in the gambling know than having Rob.Singer photobombing the forum with pics of 700K, hopefully including more than one or two actual C-Notes, but whatever works.

Rob probably won a 5 million dollar jackpot sometime in his international travels, but has been too modest to post it. Everyone should send him, coach, and mickey PMs begging that Rob please post all of his winning pics, not just the humble ones.

This forum truly deserves Rob.Singer as flagship poster. It's a match made in heaven.

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I agree. Will Rob also be posting pics of Mickey and Coach servicing him with their daily hand jobs?

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

A yes or no answer would be great.

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No so great that you wouldn't provide one when asked a direct question, right?

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

Where did I suggest it did?

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That's not a yes or no answer, it's a dodge of some sort.

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First off I don't know what Red was getting at or why he was saying that, ask him that question. It's hard for me to believe anyone would be accepting 1.5 million in tax liability unless they were part of a partnership/team and had a good /legitimate reason I don't think Rob falls in that category. And if someone was up to some shenanigans I don't think they would be posting up pictures of jackpots and "money" in a safe.

Try quoting and reading the entire post, I did answer the best I could "I only have knowledge of a 5754 form being able to accomplish that, but I have no doubt there are other ways"

I have only ever given or received 5754's when someone has hit a jackpot for me or when needing to share a big jackpot tax liability when working with others. That's as far as my knowledge goes on that

So I didn't know how that accomplishes that. Did you answer NO to my question ?

The picture is computer generated fake. There was no $1.5 million dollar win anywhere! Get over it!

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

I don't know what Red was getting at or why he was saying that

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I didn't ask why he said that, that's just another dodge on your part.

My question was whether one player could accept a W2G for another player,
or acquire the gambling tax burden for another player,
by means of a fabricated W2G, as you describe here...

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

Take your real W2G and copy all that information onto a blank W2G form.

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Originally Posted by jbjb

The picture is computer generated fake. There was no $1.5 million dollar win anywhere! Get over it!

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You mean there's no Caesars employee with jackpot photos on their cell phone?

A $1.5 million hit is something great, However, as a multiple of the original bet it's nothing special.
Original bet was $2500. The win of $1.5 million is 600x original wager. For comparison a Royal Flush is 800x wager. A royal happens pretty much everyday in medium to larger casinos.The real question is what bozo wagers $2500 on a -EV play?

Folks, you can make make all your wildest dreams come true for only $2600 + $350 shipping.

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Originally Posted by redietz

This forum truly deserves Rob.Singer as flagship poster. It's a match made in heaven.

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Yes, he'll be missed.

His enemies will take their shots but the old boy has quick moves and can dodge and deflect with the best of them.

Coupled to relentlessness and narcissism and voila: VCT's own anti-hero.

I pointed out how easy it is to buy a video poker. Haven’t been there in years but used to see them for sale at Gambler’s General Store on South Main, Las Vegas

Many are probably wondering why no one has found a picture yet of the $1.5 million hit that Rob claims is his.

Well, because it is not easy to find.
If something is posted on say YouTube, if there are not specific words or phrases like "$1.5 million" in the description, it can be hard to find. Also people who may have watched the video and know it was filmed at someone's house and trying to pass it off as being filmed in a casino will get "down voted" by people who watch it. Getting a significant amount of down votes will make it show up less or last in results.

An example is the picture below:
I can say "Hey guys, I won $166 Million, and here is the picture to prove it!"

Now if you tried to search for this picture just by seeing the video you probably couldnt find it. You can see part of the description in the picture as well as I stated the slot channel it was on in my first post. If you only had the video and not this additional info, it would be difficult.

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

Many are probably wondering why no one has found a picture yet of the $1.5 million hit that Rob claims is his.

Well, because it is not easy to find.
If something is posted on say YouTube, if there are not specific words or phrases like "$1.5 million" in the description, it can be hard to find. Also people who may have watched the video and know it was filmed at someone's house and trying to pass it off as being filmed in a casino will get "down voted" by people who watch it. Getting a significant amount of down votes will make it show up less or last in results.

An example is the picture below:
I can say "Hey guys, I won $166 Million, and here is the picture to prove it!"

Now if you tried to search for this picture just by seeing the video you probably couldnt find it. You can see part of the description in the picture as well as I stated the slot channel it was on in my first post. If you only had the video and not this additional info, it would be difficult.

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Unfortunately there was a member of this forum who said an employee of Caesars had the photo and Rob got access to it. Another member of this forum also said another jackpot photo claimed by Rob was previously posted on the Internet.

The real question is not about Rob's photo not being found but where are the other two photos that forum members said they saw?

It’s hard to say, but one thing I would be willing to bet money on is the fact that this “photo” originated from a video. How many times has the photo been “circulated” to other people? Hard to say.

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

It’s hard to say, but one thing I would be willing to bet money on is the fact that this “photo” originated from a video. How many times has the photo been “circulated” to other people? Hard to say.

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Do you sense a problem when a forum member announces that he saw the photo before but later says the photo never existed?

Might you ask which is it?

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

Many are probably wondering why no one has found a picture yet of the $1.5 million hit that Rob claims is his.

Well, because it is not easy to find.
If something is posted on say YouTube, if there are not specific words or phrases like "$1.5 million" in the description, it can be hard to find. Also people who may have watched the video and know it was filmed at someone's house and trying to pass it off as being filmed in a casino will get "down voted" by people who watch it. Getting a significant amount of down votes will make it show up less or last in results.

An example is the picture below:
I can say "Hey guys, I won $166 Million, and here is the picture to prove it!"

Now if you tried to search for this picture just by seeing the video you probably couldnt find it. You can see part of the description in the picture as well as I stated the slot channel it was on in my first post. If you only had the video and not this additional info, it would be difficult.

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Congrats!!

I have no reason to disbelieve that you won this jackpot. Now if only you hadn't signed that pesky NDA, we could all ask where you hit it.

Seriously, very nice work.

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

It’s hard to say, but one thing I would be willing to bet money on is the fact that this “photo” originated from a video. How many times has the photo been “circulated” to other people? Hard to say.

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Do you sense a problem when a forum member announces that he saw the photo before but later says the photo never existed?

Might you ask which is it?

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Who said the photo never existed? The only problem is an inept ex-reporter that misconstrues facts.

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

It’s hard to say, but one thing I would be willing to bet money on is the fact that this “photo” originated from a video. How many times has the photo been “circulated” to other people? Hard to say.

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Do you sense a problem when a forum member announces that he saw the photo before but later says the photo never existed?

Might you ask which is it?

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If I recall correctly, he clarified later that he saw QUAD’s for 7 figures but it may have not been the one Singer produced.


Alan, serious question. What do you place the odds at, that Singer hit this?

I dont know if Singer hit it. Singer hasnt shown me the W2G which he said he was going to do.
Meanwhile there are explanations for every photo ever presented -- or not presented.

I guess this ex reporter has an open mind and is waiting.

Is having an open mind a bad thing? On this forum it is.

Case in point: I bring up a potential scam in the New York area but suddenly instead of focusing on the scam I'm targeted in the discussion.

But carry on. As a mob lawyer's son I've seen it all, including my father go to jail.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I dont know if Singer hit it. Singer hasnt shown me the W2G which he said he was going to do.
Meanwhile there are explanations for every photo ever presented -- or not presented.

I guess this ex reporter has an open mind and is waiting.

Is having an open mind a bad thing? On this forum it is.

Case in point: I bring up a potential scam in the New York area but suddenly instead of focusing on the scam I'm targeted in the discussion.

But carry on. As a mob lawyer's son I've seen it all, including my father go to jail.

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An open mind is a great thing.

So as a Mob lawyers son, you would probably then acknowledge that there has been enough evidence provided in this thread, that if this issue were a civil suit and the jury were to decide “Hit $1.5 Million or Big Liar”, without a doubt the outcome would be 12-0 in favor of “Big Liar”.

One of the first things they teach you in law school is “There is nothing you can be absolutely certain of.”

So if your looking for 100% certainty either way, unfortunately you will be looking forever since “certainty” doesn’t exist.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I dont know if Singer hit it. Singer hasnt shown me the W2G which he said he was going to do.
Meanwhile there are explanations for every photo ever presented -- or not presented.

I guess this ex reporter has an open mind and is waiting.

Is having an open mind a bad thing? On this forum it is.

Case in point: I bring up a potential scam in the New York area but suddenly instead of focusing on the scam I'm targeted in the discussion.

But carry on. As a mob lawyer's son I've seen it all, including my father go to jail.

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In my years of studying paranormal claims and gambling claims, I have always found it disingenuous when someone brings the "I have an open mind" to bear without discussing odds.

We live in a probabilistic world. None of us operate by having open minds without gauging probability for each and every step we take, event we witness, decision we make. So waving the "I have an open mind" flag without mentioning odds or probability or assigning a weight to various options is a form of misdirection. As in, if you don't mention odds or probability, maybe they other person won't ask about odds or probability.

I cannot, however, beat what James Randi had to say when confronted with the "I have an open mind" schtick.

"There is a distinct difference between having an open mind and having a hole in your head from which your brain leaks out."

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I dont know if Singer hit it. Singer hasnt shown me the W2G which he said he was going to do.
Meanwhile there are explanations for every photo ever presented -- or not presented.

I guess this ex reporter has an open mind and is waiting.

Is having an open mind a bad thing? On this forum it is.

Case in point: I bring up a potential scam in the New York area but suddenly instead of focusing on the scam I'm targeted in the discussion.

But carry on. As a mob lawyer's son I've seen it all, including my father go to jail.

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In my years of studying paranormal claims and gambling claims, I have always found it disingenuous when someone brings the "I have an open mind" to bear without discussing odds.

We live in a probabilistic world. None of us operate by having open minds without gauging probability for each and every step we take, event we witness, decision we make. So waving the "I have an open mind" flag without mentioning odds or probability or assigning a weight to various options is a form of misdirection. As in, if you don't mention odds or probability, maybe they other person won't ask about odds or probability.

I cannot, however, beat what James Randi had to say when confronted with the "I have an open mind" schtick.

"There is a distinct difference between having an open mind and having a hole in your head from which your brain leaks out."

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Excellent Post

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I dont know if Singer hit it. Singer hasnt shown me the W2G which he said he was going to do.
Meanwhile there are explanations for every photo ever presented -- or not presented.

I guess this ex reporter has an open mind and is waiting.

Is having an open mind a bad thing? On this forum it is.

Case in point: I bring up a potential scam in the New York area but suddenly instead of focusing on the scam I'm targeted in the discussion.

But carry on. As a mob lawyer's son I've seen it all, including my father go to jail.

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In my years of studying paranormal claims and gambling claims, I have always found it disingenuous when someone brings the "I have an open mind" to bear without discussing odds.

We live in a probabilistic world. None of us operate by having open minds without gauging probability for each and every step we take, event we witness, decision we make. So waving the "I have an open mind" flag without mentioning odds or probability or assigning a weight to various options is a form of misdirection. As in, if you don't mention odds or probability, maybe they other person won't ask about odds or probability.

I cannot, however, beat what James Randi had to say when confronted with the "I have an open mind" schtick.

"There is a distinct difference between having an open mind and having a hole in your head from which your brain leaks out."

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I like the ones who claim to be just neutral observers but will hang on until the end of time with a clearly made up mind. I guess that's why Switzerland doesn't get much respect anymore. People can see right thru their bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I dont know if Singer hit it. Singer hasnt shown me the W2G which he said he was going to do.
Meanwhile there are explanations for every photo ever presented -- or not presented.

I guess this ex reporter has an open mind and is waiting.

Is having an open mind a bad thing? On this forum it is.

Case in point: I bring up a potential scam in the New York area but suddenly instead of focusing on the scam I'm targeted in the discussion.

But carry on. As a mob lawyer's son I've seen it all, including my father go to jail.

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There are mouse cursors in the photos reportedly taken in a casino. You are ignorant.

I think, Maxpen, you'll need to ask jbjb about what he said. This will come as a shock to you, I know, but not everything on this forum revolves around you.

I'll keep an open mind about Singer because no one has shown he didnt hit it.

Really. Show me one thing that shows Singer didnt hit it. Just one.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Really. Show me one thing that shows Singer didnt hit it. Just one.

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MOUSE CURSOR.

I mean seriously Alan!!!

Also Singer pre-announced this whole thing because he was already sitting on this picture. Anyone with half a brain knows this.

Alan, people don't want to blithely trust you due to what you've posted previously.

Hello, 18 yo's in a row.

That cum stain will be on your funeral shroud, which is a damned shame because I suspect you were a good reporter back in the day.

When people first hear word of an unusual, nay an astounding event such as "I witnessed 18 yo's in a row at Caesars" or "I just won $1.5M at VP" the first thing they do is examine the credibility of the claimant.

Both you and Rob Singer have a long history of pot-stirring, tap dancing and flat out bullshitting on these forums so yeah, the burden shifts to you guys o prove any unusual claim.

We're not idiots out here, Alan; we use our brain as a filter.

Kewlj will confirm that I've said this in the past:

With Singer there is no proof only explanations.

Well, it's a two way street. None of you have proof that he didnt hit it, and only explanations.

Early on I said this doesnt make the 6 o'clock news. I stand by that.

There's no proof either way. It doesnt make the 6 o'clock news.

Why you persist is what puzzles me. I've moved on but you havent.

I and others "persist" in calling BULLSHIT to an avowed bullshitter, and you tap dance on the sidelines saying "maybe" or "what if."

We all probably know Rob is a liar about this and other claims; now the game that is afoot is to watch his supporters twist in the wind as his house of cards topples..

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Originally Posted by MisterV

I and others "persist" in calling BULLSHIT to an avowed bullshitter, and you tap dance on the sidelines saying "maybe" or "what if."

We all probably know Rob is a liar about this and other claims; now the game that is afoot is to watch his supporters twist in the wind as his house of cards topples..

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Damn... no fear of entrapment?

What if it was one big set up?

I think you'll live better if you just dropped it. Do you really benefit from your obsession?

Take a walk. There's a big world out there outside of Singer.

Dont get stuck sitting in an empty bar for four hours waiting for him.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

I don't know what Red was getting at or why he was saying that

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I didn't ask why he said that, that's just another dodge on your part.

My question was whether one player could accept a W2G for another player,
or acquire the gambling tax burden for another player,
by means of a fabricated W2G, as you describe here...

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

Take your real W2G and copy all that information onto a blank W2G form.

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Takeing your real W2G and copying all that information onto a blank W2G form would only be adequate for fooling everyone, BUT the casino, they are the only ones who would know better.

You're not supposed to be able to Accept a W2G from another person, it's supposed to go to the person who hit the jackpot, After that, or at the time, they use a 5754 to transfer liability. If a jackpot was actually hit, I would assume the casino would send in the original W2G, so I can't see how creating another fake W2G would help.

If someone was desperate enough to prove some BS claim, one could probably send in a fake 1.5 Million W2G to the IRS. The IRS would no doubt gladly accept that as real, thus creating a tax liability. They could then show fake losses of 1.5 Million to offset the fake win amount and owe nothing. I guess one could launder money by sending in fake W2G's and claim fewer losses. I have to believe there are better ways to launder money via gambling than making fake W2G's.

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If someone was desperate enough to prove some BS claim, one could probably send in a fake 1.5 Million W2G to the IRS. The IRS would no doubt gladly accept that as real, thus creating a tax liability.

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Actually no. The IRS would not accept it because the IRS could not match the purported W2G with a W2G from the casino.

In reality the IRS would send letters of inquiry to both the taxpayer and the casino requesting more information.

EVERY tax return is in fact "audited" in some way with tax data verified. This explains why some taxpayers get refunds that were unexpected-- the IRS found an error in their favor.

In order for a bogus W2G to get thru, the casino would have to be in on it.

Don't tell Redietz. He took a Journalism course.

And a couple of math courses. LOL. In fact, I review a DVD probability course from Texas every year about this time. Part of my routine.

On some of this stuff, some folks can't see the forest for the trees. But that's okay. Hell, people were pushing parlay calculators at WoV. Why should I expect better here? Folks think because they won a couple 100K slot jackpots, they know their way around gambling taxes. God bless them.

You know what I love? Ten years from now, sports and event gambling will be the dominant forms of gambling in this country, outstripping everything else combined. At some point, all these table games and slot players are going to get an inkling that they haven't had a clue for a very long time.

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If someone was desperate enough to prove some BS claim, one could probably send in a fake 1.5 Million W2G to the IRS. The IRS would no doubt gladly accept that as real, thus creating a tax liability.

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Actually no. The IRS would not accept it because the IRS could not match the purported W2G with a W2G from the casino.

In reality the IRS would send letters of inquiry to both the taxpayer and the casino requesting more information.

EVERY tax return is in fact "audited" in some way with tax data verified. This explains why some taxpayers get refunds that were unexpected-- the IRS found an error in their favor.

In order for a bogus W2G to get thru, the casino would have to be in on it.

Don't tell Redietz. He took a Journalism course.

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I don't think a 1.5 M would get through. I don't believe that the casino would have to be in on it for smaller ones to get through. You don't even need W2G's to report wins and losses.

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If someone was desperate enough to prove some BS claim, one could probably send in a fake 1.5 Million W2G to the IRS. The IRS would no doubt gladly accept that as real, thus creating a tax liability.

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Actually no. The IRS would not accept it because the IRS could not match the purported W2G with a W2G from the casino.

In reality the IRS would send letters of inquiry to both the taxpayer and the casino requesting more information.

EVERY tax return is in fact "audited" in some way with tax data verified. This explains why some taxpayers get refunds that were unexpected-- the IRS found an error in their favor.

In order for a bogus W2G to get thru, the casino would have to be in on it.

Don't tell Redietz. He took a Journalism course.

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I don't think a 1.5 M would get through. I don't believe that the casino would have to be in on it for smaller ones to get through. You don't even need W2G's to report wins and losses.

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You just need a log. But Alan is right that if you report $10k of w-2g income from x casino and you never got a w2-g from that tax id number an inquiry will be made. You're looking at this from a pro gamblers perspective where you just declare wins and losses wherever they are from and if questioned you will have an acceptable log with the required info to validate what you are reporting.

As a machine pro you're only likely to be audited if your declared gambling winnings are not equal or greater than your issued w2-g's. Regardless of your declared losses.

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If someone was desperate enough to prove some BS claim, one could probably send in a fake 1.5 Million W2G to the IRS. The IRS would no doubt gladly accept that as real, thus creating a tax liability.

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Actually no. The IRS would not accept it because the IRS could not match the purported W2G with a W2G from the casino.

In reality the IRS would send letters of inquiry to both the taxpayer and the casino requesting more information.

EVERY tax return is in fact "audited" in some way with tax data verified. This explains why some taxpayers get refunds that were unexpected-- the IRS found an error in their favor.

In order for a bogus W2G to get thru, the casino would have to be in on it.

Don't tell Redietz. He took a Journalism course.

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I don't think a 1.5 M would get through. I don't believe that the casino would have to be in on it for smaller ones to get through. You don't even need W2G's to report wins and losses.

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You're right you don't need W2Gs to report WINS. But any paperwork reported to the IRS is compared with what's on the taxpayer's return and vice versa.

Ask your tax professional before this is turned into 60 pages.

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Actually no. The IRS would not accept it because the IRS could not match the purported W2G with a W2G from the casino.

In reality the IRS would send letters of inquiry to both the taxpayer and the casino requesting more information.

EVERY tax return is in fact "audited" in some way with tax data verified. This explains why some taxpayers get refunds that were unexpected-- the IRS found an error in their favor.

In order for a bogus W2G to get thru, the casino would have to be in on it.

Don't tell Redietz. He took a Journalism course.

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I don't think a 1.5 M would get through. I don't believe that the casino would have to be in on it for smaller ones to get through. You don't even need W2G's to report wins and losses.

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You just need a log. But Alan is right that if you report $10k of w-2g income from x casino and you never got a w2-g from that tax id number an inquiry will be made. You're looking at this from a pro gamblers perspective where you just declare wins and losses wherever they are from and if questioned you will have an acceptable log with the required info to validate what you are reporting.

As a machine pro you're only likely to be audited if your declared gambling winnings are not equal or greater than your issued w2-g's. Regardless of your declared losses.

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The stupid thing about this is it contradicts their own guidelines for professional gamblers.

You are supposed to aggregate winning sessions and aggregate losing sessions and report those two numbers. And of course your winning sessions can be and typically are smaller than the W2Gs won therein, and of course you can have a losing session that includes W2Gs.

But if you follow their own rules you will get a warning letter for underreporting and they will treat the sum of your W2Gs minus your declared total wins as undeclared income.

And if you contest it they will back down every time AFAIK, so it appears they are acting in bad faith in sending out those letters.

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I don't think a 1.5 M would get through. I don't believe that the casino would have to be in on it for smaller ones to get through. You don't even need W2G's to report wins and losses.

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You just need a log. But Alan is right that if you report $10k of w-2g income from x casino and you never got a w2-g from that tax id number an inquiry will be made. You're looking at this from a pro gamblers perspective where you just declare wins and losses wherever they are from and if questioned you will have an acceptable log with the required info to validate what you are reporting.

As a machine pro you're only likely to be audited if your declared gambling winnings are not equal or greater than your issued w2-g's. Regardless of your declared losses.

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The stupid thing about this is it contradicts their own guidelines for professional gamblers.

You are supposed to aggregate winning sessions and aggregate losing sessions and report those two numbers. And of course your winning sessions can be and typically are smaller than the W2Gs won therein, and of course you can have a losing session that includes W2Gs.

But if you follow their own rules you will get a warning letter for underreporting and they will treat the sum of your W2Gs minus your declared total wins as undeclared income.

And if you contest it they will back down every time AFAIK, so it appears they are acting in bad faith in sending out those letters.

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If you contest anything as a pro gambler they will back down. The only way you.can get found guilty of anything is under the Al Capone rules of tax evasion.

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It’s hard to say, but one thing I would be willing to bet money on is the fact that this “photo” originated from a video. How many times has the photo been “circulated” to other people? Hard to say.

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Do you sense a problem when a forum member announces that he saw the photo before but later says the photo never existed?

Might you ask which is it?

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Who said the photo never existed? The only problem is an inept ex-reporter that misconstrues facts.

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No, the problem is lying maxpen who said he saw the photo. Then changed his tune about it so many times everyone thought they were listening to a jukebox.

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I and others "persist" in calling BULLSHIT to an avowed bullshitter, and you tap dance on the sidelines saying "maybe" or "what if."

We all probably know Rob is a liar about this and other claims; now the game that is afoot is to watch his supporters twist in the wind as his house of cards topples..

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And of course, here on VCT, a Rob "supporter" is defined as anyone that doesn't have Singer Derangement Syndrome. Any objective and neutral observer that points out the evidence of both sides, inconsistencies in evidence, and false evidence is branded a "Rob supporter" by the Brokeback Boys.

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I dont know if Singer hit it. Singer hasnt shown me the W2G which he said he was going to do.
Meanwhile there are explanations for every photo ever presented -- or not presented.

I guess this ex reporter has an open mind and is waiting.

Is having an open mind a bad thing? On this forum it is.

Case in point: I bring up a potential scam in the New York area but suddenly instead of focusing on the scam I'm targeted in the discussion.

But carry on. As a mob lawyer's son I've seen it all, including my father go to jail.

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In my years of studying paranormal claims and gambling claims, I have always found it disingenuous when someone brings the "I have an open mind" to bear without discussing odds.

We live in a probabilistic world. None of us operate by having open minds without gauging probability for each and every step we take, event we witness, decision we make. So waving the "I have an open mind" flag without mentioning odds or probability or assigning a weight to various options is a form of misdirection. As in, if you don't mention odds or probability, maybe they other person won't ask about odds or probability.

I cannot, however, beat what James Randi had to say when confronted with the "I have an open mind" schtick.

"There is a distinct difference between having an open mind and having a hole in your head from which your brain leaks out."

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Closed minded people like yourself come up with all kinds of bullshit. This is just more ditz bullshit.

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How's that been working out for you all these years with Rob?

Speaking of jail, if you bend over in the shower for the first time and suddenly get a giant 9.5 cock rammed up your ass, shame on them. If you are in the shower again with that same guy, but keep you keep an open mind thinking... it might not happen again and proceed to bend over anyways, and get ass blasted again, shame on you. If you keep keeping an open mind in similar situations and you keep getting dick slapped in the face, one might think you actually like it.

Mouse cursors guys. We have mouse cursors.

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Mouse cursors still dont tell you the origin of the photos.

I know most of you are having trouble understanding that, but it's okay because some of us do.

Until someone can show those are not photos of Rob's hit we'll just be going in circles.

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Mouse cursors guys. We have mouse cursors.

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Mouse cursors still dont tell you the origin of the photos.

I know most of you are having trouble understanding that, but it's okay because some of us do.

Until someone can show those are not photos of Rob's hit we'll just be going in circles.

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I hit for $6 million this morning on $100, 10 play. His is chump change now.

Rob talked about editing the photo of his jackpot for posting. Not editing the photo in order to take a photo of himself editing it on a computer screen which he would then post.

"We" are not going around in circles. Most of us were right from the beginning, some of us don't have the mental capacity to participate in the discussion.

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Rob talked about editing the photo of his jackpot for posting. Not editing the photo in order to take a photo of himself editing it on a computer screen which he would then post.

"We" are not going around in circles. Most of us were right from the beginning, some of us don't have the mental capacity to participate in the discussion.

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Did you consider that the photo being edited is the photo with the mystery man on the computer screen?

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Mouse cursors guys. We have mouse cursors.

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Mouse cursors still dont tell you the origin of the photos.

I know most of you are having trouble understanding that, but it's okay because some of us do.

Until someone can show those are not photos of Rob's hit we'll just be going in circles.

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I hit for $6 million this morning on $100, 10 play. His is chump change now.

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Jbjb you really are a wonder boy. First you said you saw the photos online that Rob had claimed as his. Then you claimed the photos Rob claimed were fabricated. Now you hit for $6 million.

You really are boy wonder.

Here's a hint... when you reach puberty you'll appreciate women.

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Mouse cursors guys. We have mouse cursors.

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Mouse cursors still dont tell you the origin of the photos.

I know most of you are having trouble understanding that, but it's okay because some of us do.

Until someone can show those are not photos of Rob's hit we'll just be going in circles.

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It's really too bad you don't have someone in your life to knock the stupid away. Everytime I think there's a glimmer of hope for you then you go full tard......RIP

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Mouse cursors still dont tell you the origin of the photos.

I know most of you are having trouble understanding that, but it's okay because some of us do.

Until someone can show those are not photos of Rob's hit we'll just be going in circles.

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I hit for $6 million this morning on $100, 10 play. His is chump change now.

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Jbjb you really are a wonder boy. First you said you saw the photos online that Rob had claimed as his. Then you claimed the photos Rob claimed were fabricated. Now you hit for $6 million.

You really are boy wonder.

Here's a hint... when you reach puberty you'll appreciate women.

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You're conflicting things. The $1.5 MM is a FAKE! The other one was some chicks and not his!

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Rob talked about editing the photo of his jackpot for posting. Not editing the photo in order to take a photo of himself editing it on a computer screen which he would then post.

"We" are not going around in circles. Most of us were right from the beginning, some of us don't have the mental capacity to participate in the discussion.

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Did you consider that the photo being edited is the photo with the mystery man on the computer screen?

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Not only did I consider it but I considered it in the very post you are quoting.

Editing a photo does not leave a mouse cursor in the edited photo. Editing an image and then taking a photo of the edited image on your screen does leave a cursor (if you don't know a way to eliminate the cursor).

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Mouse cursors still dont tell you the origin of the photos.

I know most of you are having trouble understanding that, but it's okay because some of us do.

Until someone can show those are not photos of Rob's hit we'll just be going in circles.

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My God, you really are the son of a mob lawyer. :rolleyes:

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Rob talked about editing the photo of his jackpot for posting. Not editing the photo in order to take a photo of himself editing it on a computer screen which he would then post.

"We" are not going around in circles. Most of us were right from the beginning, some of us don't have the mental capacity to participate in the discussion.

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Did you consider that the photo being edited is the photo with the mystery man on the computer screen?

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Not only did I consider it but I considered it in the very post you are quoting.

Editing a photo does not leave a mouse cursor in the edited photo. Editing an image and then taking a photo of the edited image on your screen does leave a cursor (if you don't know a way to eliminate the cursor).

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This has been addressed numerous times. Mickey summed it up well. I suggest you read what Mickey wrote.

In the meantime my position hasn't changed.

There is a lack of information for me to decide if the photos show an actual hit by Rob.

Rob has not presented any proof, and this discussion about images on a computer screen does not present any proof.

AND I WAS THE FIRST TO MENTION A COMPUTER SCREEN.

I'm not going to argue anything except that with a lack of proof this story isn't worth discussing.

When one of you has proof -- and this goes for Rob and his W2G -- let me know.

Until then you're all grabbing things out of context hoping it's the key to put a lock on this.

If you came into the newsroom we'd say thanks for showing your analysis of your bigfoot photos.

The analysis of bigfoot photos is indeed an apt analogy here.

And come to think of it the newsroom manager who unquestioningly accepts Bigfoot photos but scoffs at the analysis that refutes them is a good analogy too.

Degenerate gamblers are just plain stupid and will believe anything.

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Alan how many decades have you been waiting for the person posting as Rob Singer to show you proof of any of his different claims? :confused: Let me offer a quote by one Alan Mendelson: "Always an excuse but never any proof"

Now if this claim was going to be any different, Rob had his chance. He had a meeting set up BY HIM, to meet Maxpen and show whatever proof he wanted, W-2, further images, even his son, supposedly the guy in the picture. Rob didn't show! Not at the time of the meeting. He bizarrely claims he drove 5 hours to Las Vegas, walked through the meeting spot two hours early and left 90 minutes before that scheduled meeting to drive 5 more hours back home. I mean none of that happened either, but that is his....get ready for it Alan...excuse.

Overnight Axelwolf made an analogy using a prison shower reference. For the life of me, I don't know why so many people use these gay references, or why "gay" is on their mind 24/7, but the point of his analogy is something YOU should consider Alan, "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"

Alan, this make about a dozen times for you, that Rob has "fooled" you and you have come back for more. :rolleyes:

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Here's a hint... when you reach puberty you'll appreciate women.

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Exactly how many times have you been divorced?

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I'm still trying to catch up to Richard Burton.

It’s fun watching the Brokeback Boys stuck with Singer Derangement Syndrome.

PS: Maxie would be dropping that soap every time he takes a shower.

It amazes me Mickey that they're obsessed with Singer... Singer is laughing his ass off.

Hey guys your short bus to the senior center just pulled up.

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It amazes me Mickey that they're obsessed with Singer... Singer is laughing his ass off.

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This is what Singer supporters Mickey and Alan have now come up with, but it is complete nonsense.

This guys has spent 2 decades building himself up and pretending to be something he is not...a winning player. And he has gone to great lengths including stunts like the RV dealership showroom fiasco. God knows how much time and effort he spent searching for, finding this most recent picture and having someone in his family (son, or grandchild) help him crop in and out things.

And he has spent some money to perpetrate this scam. Spent money on the movie prop money from amazon, spent money on an ad in RV trader for an RV that didn't exist. How much did it cost him to publish those books? :confused:

That is considerable time and money just to pretend you are something you are not. Decades!!! That is major narcistic behavior. It is not a cute little thing that he is laughing about. He has spend considerable time and effort and each time, is completely debunked and proven a fake. I can only imagine how pissed off he got when new member, Postivevariance showed up and exposed every little detail of what Rob did.

The only ones made a fool of were Alan and mickey. They can say otherwise, and deflect and call people names, but everyone knows it. And now they double down like even bigger fools.

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Rob has not presented any proof, and this discussion about images on a computer screen does not present any proof.

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Alan how many decades have you been waiting for the person posting as Rob Singer to show you proof of any of his different claims? :confused: Let me offer a quote by one Alan Mendelson: "Always an excuse but never any proof"

Now if this claim was going to be any different, Rob had his chance. He had a meeting set up BY HIM, to meet Maxpen and show whatever proof he wanted, W-2, further images, even his son, supposedly the guy in the picture. Rob didn't show! Not at the time of the meeting. He bizarrely claims he drove 5 hours to Las Vegas, walked through the meeting spot two hours early and left 90 minutes before that scheduled meeting to drive 5 more hours back home. I mean none of that happened either, but that is his....get ready for it Alan...excuse.

Overnight Axelwolf made an analogy using a prison shower reference. For the life of me, I don't know why so many people use these gay references, or why "gay" is on their mind 24/7, but the point of his analogy is something YOU should consider Alan, "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me"

Alan, this make about a dozen times for you, that Rob has "fooled" you and you have come back for more. :rolleyes:

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Whats amazing is your decades long made up fantasy forum life. We know now from the work of Mdawg that your forum life is undoubtedly fake. However what makes a man dive down the rabbit hole of forum fantasy for so long ? This is a fascinating case study of human psychology, and I intend to peel back every rainbow layer of your life to uncover the reason. Starting back in Florida.

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Umm, we know exactly the opposite, thanks to Maddog. He hired someone to find me and look into who I was and then posted that info (doxed) because I was exactly who I said.

Look dude, you are just trashing me because I said you were a scammer. When you came here, I was told you were JWT. And his reputation, I believe, well earned is of a scammer. You claim you are not him. And you even had some choice words for him, basically calling him a scammer yourself. If you are not him, and I am not yet convinced of that, but if you are not, I apologize. Let's just move on.

Shit is getting Real!!

https://twitter.com/PokerProErik/sta...98434996310016

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Umm, we know exactly the opposite, thanks to Maddog. He hired someone to find me and look into who I was and then posted that info (doxed) because I was exactly who I said.

Look dude, you are just trashing me because I said you were a scammer. When you came here, I was told you were JWT. And his reputation, I believe, well earned is of a scammer. You claim you are not him. And you even had some choice words for him, basically calling him a scammer yourself. If you are not him, and I am not yet convinced of that, but if you are not, I apologize. Let's just move on.

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This is not what the Mdawg doxing showed. This is how YOU spun the doxing. Big difference

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Mouse cursors guys. We have mouse cursors.

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Mouse cursors still dont tell you the origin of the photos.

I know most of you are having trouble understanding that, but it's okay because some of us do.

Until someone can show those are not photos of Rob's hit we'll just be going in circles.

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Alan, have you ever served on a Jury?

If I was a defense attorney, I would LOVE to have you on a Jury.

If I was a prosecuting attorney, it would not be a good day having Alan selected on the jury.

But in all seriousness, have you ever been selected for a jury? If so, can you share the outcome?

Fantasy Board Island.
Degenerate Gamblers serving Jury Duty and Paying Taxes... RIP.
lol lol lol lol lol lol lol