The Adventures of MDawg (in progress)

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

I proved to Mike with audio and pictures regarding CTR they said they were CTRing me and they even gave me paperwork. ASK HIM. I sent him all the proof. Report to us the situation. You won't do that since it would prove you wrong. You will just claim this or that. I'm not saying that's the norm, Im saying it can and does happen. Whatever you think can or can't be done isn't always the case. Mike wondered why I was even sending him this information, as he didn't think it was out of the ordinary.

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There are a lot of problems with this. One is that your memory is very faulty over anything that happened more than a week ago. And for a couple years now Wizard has been saying that his memory has gotten so bad that he can't even remember 3 digit lock combinations. So between the two of you, there is no way whatever you are recounting could be accurate from that long ago.

And then secondly, even if you are remembering accurately, which is impossible, what does this even prove? It's not even on topic with what was being discussed, which is that almost no player who wins 7 figures would cash out in cash anyway, thus obviating a CTR in the first place. Your thinking automatically that SiegfriedRoy must have cashed out for cash (7 figures) shows how out of touch you are with high end casino play.

Sure, nowadays we have this one oddball Mikki Mase who claims to buy in and cash out for millions, but he is doing that for show. Your typical high end player who hits big will ask for a check or bank wire. So the mere fact that you asked SiegfriedRoy to "show me the CTR" to prove that he had had a seven figure blackjack trip win, is representative of how alien high end play is to you. Plus the fact that a casino does not "hand over" a CTR to anyone when one is lodged, this is all done quietly, at their end only.

Over all this is representative of that you will put your two cents in on any topic, pretending to know what you are talking about. The concepts of standing silent, or listening versus speaking, are foreign to you.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

As far as fake Rolexes, among one's peer group, it is not assumed that the watch is fake, as the fakes really don't look like the real thing to the trained eye, especially the precious metal ones. The fakes that try to look like they are solid gold for example, look atrocious.

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Yea, my peer group is just random people you run into at various places. Not people gambling like idiots. If you take out the obvious fakes - that still 1/2 of them will be fake. I'd bet money. Who knows.. if you're an older established white guy probably a lot less likely. Some people you just know .. but.. people would have no idea with me, I'd think except that I'm cheaper and lol about life with a not so conventional look .. so maybe buy a fake. Or I'd just wear a quality homage which I just ordered one. I'm not really looking to develop an expensive hobby.

I know a guy who a very well know quasi-criminal type in the gambling world. Probably not what you think but he is definitely a criminal type but also good ol' boy but with knuckle tats. He told me how he has sold a few Rolexes at poker games. I could never do that wearing a fake.

I've also seen a fake sold to someone at a game. The whole thing went down like a work of art. There is a professor who knows watches and looked it over - said it looked "ok" to him. Anyway - turns out it wss a fake but it was sold for $1k. Everyone lol'd when they heard it was fake and our victim stormed into the other gentleman's fine shop about ready to explode. But what the fuck did he expect.. he agreed to buy the watch regardless and there was some story about them being a gift. I fell for the sincerity of it all. Good times

You're already "off" by assuming that high end watches are only worn in casinos by people gambling. You should get out more.

Whatever fake that Rolex was purporting to be at the poker game was obviously worth a lot more than $1000., so the buyer must have or should have known something was wrong. And it must have been a low end fake to have sold for only a thousand (the scammer was probably trying to turn a good profit), so guaranteed it looks terrible to anyone in the know. Many of the "super fakes" you mentioned earlier, which still are not overly difficult to tell are fakes (did you watch that video?), cost over a thousand dollars.

In any case, you can fake the watch, but can you fake how it makes you feel?

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Originally Posted by MDawg

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

I proved to Mike with audio and pictures regarding CTR they said they were CTRing me and they even gave me paperwork. ASK HIM. I sent him all the proof. Report to us the situation. You won't do that since it would prove you wrong. You will just claim this or that. I'm not saying that's the norm, Im saying it can and does happen. Whatever you think can or can't be done isn't always the case. Mike wondered why I was even sending him this information, as he didn't think it was out of the ordinary.

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There are a lot of problems with this. One is that your memory is very faulty over anything that happened more than a week ago. And for a couple years now Wizard has been saying that his memory has gotten so bad that he can't even remember 3 digit lock combinations. So between the two of you, there is no way whatever you are recounting could be accurate from that long ago.

And then secondly, even if you are remembering accurately, which is impossible, what does this even prove? It's not even on topic with what was being discussed, which is that almost no player who wins 7 figures would cash out in cash anyway, thus obviating a CTR in the first place. Your thinking automatically that SiegfriedRoy must have cashed out for cash (7 figures) shows how out of touch you are with high end casino play.

Sure, nowadays we have this one oddball Mikki Mase who claims to buy in and cash out for millions, but he is doing that for show. Your typical high end player who hits big will ask for a check or bank wire. So the mere fact that you asked SiegfriedRoy to "show me the CTR" to prove that he had had a seven figure blackjack trip win, is representative of how alien high end play is to you. Plus the fact that a casino does not "hand over" a CTR to anyone when one is lodged, this is all done quietly, at their end only.

Over all this is representative of that you will put your two cents in on any topic, pretending to know what you are talking about. The concepts of standing silent, or listening versus speaking, are foreign to you.

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DID YOU ASK MIKE OR NOT?

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Originally Posted by MDawg

You're already "off" by assuming that high end watches are only worn in casinos by people gambling. You should get out more.

Whatever fake that Rolex was purporting to be at the poker game was obviously worth a lot more than $1000., so the buyer must have or should have known something was wrong. And it must have been a low end fake to have sold for only a thousand, so guaranteed it looks terrible to anyone in the know.

In any case, you can fake the watch, but you can't fake how it makes you feel.

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I'm not sure what I said that makes you think that about the peer groups. I was using some random example as a peer group. I suspect I get out as much as you but across various strata. You seem to delight in the whole VIP thing but I have no idea. Maybe you go out to the working man's bars... lol. Hard to say really. I think you may be right in that even if a lot of fakes are sold - the guys wearing the watches day to day are more likely to be real. Whatever - I don't care much.

My point is more that Rolex's are the go to watch about people who want to demonstrate they have money but really don't know much about watches. Rolex's marketing/supply demand has worked out well. Funny to think it is a charitable organization all set up as a non-profit... Everyone knows what a Rolex is.. but whats next ? So if I'm a dude who wants a nice watchbut doesn't care about the style or anything else - auto default to a Rolex. I kinda want a watch that isn't a Rolex for these particular reasons.. but the lack of depreciation draws me. shrug

Yes, the buyer should have known something was wrong so the fact that he went to the guy's shop and basically menaced him for the $1000 back .. it was a total caveat emptor situation but he freerolled the watch guy basically. Watch guy said he didn't know but it wasn't a Rolex. THe professor knows his Rolexes and I distinctly remmeber it wasn't one. So he added that as a disclaimer when he appraised the watch.

Oh the guy I was talking about who sold Rolexes at the poker game - I ran into him at the watch dealership randomly where I bought my Pogue. Had no idea he was a watch guy but seemed to know quite a bit and knew the watch shop's owner well. I kinda got side-tracked on that story. Small world sorta deal. I don't really know guys into watches - would never have thought Mr knuckle tats was.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

I proved to Mike with audio and pictures regarding CTR they said they were CTRing me and they even gave me paperwork. ASK HIM. I sent him all the proof. Report to us the situation. You won't do that since it would prove you wrong. You will just claim this or that. I'm not saying that's the norm, Im saying it can and does happen. Whatever you think can or can't be done isn't always the case. Mike wondered why I was even sending him this information, as he didn't think it was out of the ordinary.

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There are a lot of problems with this. One is that your memory is very faulty over anything that happened more than a week ago. And for a couple years now Wizard has been saying that his memory has gotten so bad that he can't even remember 3 digit lock combinations. So between the two of you, there is no way whatever you are recounting could be accurate from that long ago.

And then secondly, even if you are remembering accurately, which is impossible, what does this even prove? It's not even on topic with what was being discussed, which is that almost no player who wins 7 figures would cash out in cash anyway, thus obviating a CTR in the first place. Your thinking automatically that SiegfriedRoy must have cashed out for cash (7 figures) shows how out of touch you are with high end casino play.

Sure, nowadays we have this one oddball Mikki Mase who claims to buy in and cash out for millions, but he is doing that for show. Your typical high end player who hits big will ask for a check or bank wire. So the mere fact that you asked SiegfriedRoy to "show me the CTR" to prove that he had had a seven figure blackjack trip win, is representative of how alien high end play is to you. Plus the fact that a casino does not "hand over" a CTR to anyone when one is lodged, this is all done quietly, at their end only.

Over all this is representative of that you will put your two cents in on any topic, pretending to know what you are talking about. The concepts of standing silent, or listening versus speaking, are foreign to you.

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Mikki, cool dude, I respect his self-promotion talent. BUT, Anyone who doesn't understand there is a grift going on with Mikki Mase is an IDIOT x 1000.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

There are two reason to use a watch winder.

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Yes, and one good reason NOT to.

I used to use watch winders for my Swiss automatic watches but then I stopped.

When I sent one off for cleaning / servicing by an authorized shop they suggested that I not use a WW unless I wore the watch regularly, which I stopped doing once I retired.

The reason is simple: it adds extra hours / use to the watch, causing it to incur faster wear and need servicing sooner.

Now when I wear one I set the time, put it on, turn / jiggle the wrist a few times til it starts running and voila...

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

I also don't think watches are a very good investment although when compared to other men's toys they hold their value quite well.

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Exotic cars can do OK.

I bought one in 2010 and sold it ten years later, recouping both the initial cost plus the cost of repair / maintenance during my ownership.

But...never again, I really ain't a Ferrari guy...just give me my old Volvo turbos and I'm happy.

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Man-made (lab-grown) diamonds are identical to natural, earth-mined diamonds in their chemical, physical, and optical properties, but differ in their creation process, origin, cost, and value. Natural diamonds form over billions of years deep within the Earth's mantle, while lab-grown diamonds are created in a laboratory within weeks by scientifically replicating these conditions. While both are "real" diamonds, natural diamonds are rarer and hold greater long-term value and investment potential, whereas lab-grown diamonds offer an alternative at a lower cost.

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I imagine that, in a fairly relatively short time, with further advancements in nuclear fusion (for seemingly endless energy), synthetic gold, etc., will be as cheaply available as unmarked synthetic diamonds. Everyone will have 'em, and, so, people will start to complain of, say, that sickening yellow stuff, and smelly silver, that has come to cover everything. Who the heck will bother with all of that shit, then? And, so, or why now? Ha.

P.S. Best way to end the wars isn't to further subjugate the poor, but, to make everyone "rich".


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Originally Posted by MisterV

The reason is simple: it adds extra hours / use to the watch, causing it to incur faster wear and need servicing sooner.

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But did you read what I wrote?

Just like with an automobile, leaving it alone and never driving/running it, will ruin the vehicle (or watch) just as badly as overusing it.

A mechanical watch left not running for years may dry out. The mere act of running the watch spreads the lubricants around and keeps the lubes in there from drying out and gumming up the watch.

Ideally you do what I do - I don't use watch winders, but I try to wear each one of my watches or at least wind it (if manual) or shake it to get it started (if automatic) every now and then.

Meantime AccountInQuestion is answering his own questions. You seem fixated on public venues (mentioned...bars?). What about family events? Private dinner parties? That is what I am talking about.

You are thinking too much about what a high end watch "means." Maybe because no one you know wears one so you assume that if someone started wearing a $50K watch it would be for some reason. In my peer group we just wear them, we aren't trying to impress anyone. It is merely representative of having achieved a certain level of success so now we treat ourselves to some nice things. No different from driving a certain car versus another car, or choosing to live in a certain neighborhood, or house, versus another.

Now I am pretty overboard on the watch thing and have more than anyone else in my family, but there are others in my family who own a number of expensive watches too. It just becomes a sort of obsessive hobby at some point. One person collects time pieces, another who knows what.


Anyway, it is rather cool that you would prefer a F.P. Journe to a Rolex, that indicates that you're not just buying into the usual. HOWEVER, you cannot compare a brand that just started in 1999, with something like Breguet (1775). Napoleon Bonaparte had a Breguet. So did Winston Churchill.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

We could say this about you too, alongside UNKewlJ:

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Originally Posted by jdog

Also you are not too bright, but you genuinely believe you know everything about APing and casinos. A wise man knows there is much he doesn't know, but in you we have the unfortunate combination of being extremely self-righteous and unwise. For this I feel sorry for you.

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Dawg, I don't appreciate the ambiguous manner in which you quoted me here. Let's be absolutely clear that I was speaking of kewl in this instance. Using your own quotes to make your point is one thing, and using a 3rd party's quote to make your point is yet another. But posting a 3rd party's quote responding to yet another 3rd party is a bit much... don't you think?? If you want to insult someone maybe try coming up with your own stuff.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

DID YOU ASK MIKE OR NOT?

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Originally Posted by jdog

I don't appreciate the ambiguous manner in which you quoted me here.

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Originally Posted by jdog

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Originally Posted by MDawg

We could say this about you too, alongside UNKewlJ:

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Originally Posted by jdog

Also you are not too bright, but you genuinely believe you know everything about APing and casinos. A wise man knows there is much he doesn't know, but in you we have the unfortunate combination of being extremely self-righteous and unwise. For this I feel sorry for you.

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Dawg, I don't appreciate the ambiguous manner in which you quoted me here. Let's be absolutely clear that I was speaking of kewl in this instance. Using your own quotes to make your point is one thing, and using a 3rd party's quote to make your point is yet another. But posting a 3rd party's quote responding to yet another 3rd party is a bit much... don't you think?? If you want to insult someone maybe try coming up with your own stuff.

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There was nothing ambiguous about it, other than to someone with a fourth grade reading level and ADD, like A.Wolf. He rarely comprehends even 30% of what he reads, and misreads even another 70% of that 30%.

The word We, obviously, is used as in "One" - "One could say." The plain meaning was that JDog said this about UNKewlJ, but one could say the same thing about you.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

The word We, obviously, is used as in "One" - "One could say." The plain meaning was that JDog said this about UNKewlJ, but one could say the say thing about you.

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Just the fact you had to spell this out makes my point.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

DID YOU ASK MIKE OR NOT?

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"No comment."

As to whether he said that, or I did..."no comment."

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Originally Posted by MDawg

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

DID YOU ASK MIKE OR NOT?

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"No comment."

As to whether he said that, or I did..."no comment."

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You don't need to comment on what he said.
I know what he would have said; he would have told you that the evidance proved was correct.


DID you ask him or not?

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AI Overview

Man-made (lab-grown) diamonds are identical to natural, earth-mined diamonds in their chemical, physical, and optical properties, but differ in their creation process, origin, cost, and value. Natural diamonds form over billions of years deep within the Earth's mantle, while lab-grown diamonds are created in a laboratory within weeks by scientifically replicating these conditions. While both are "real" diamonds, natural diamonds are rarer and hold greater long-term value and investment potential, whereas lab-grown diamonds offer an alternative at a lower cost.

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I imagine that, in a fairly relatively short time, with further advancements in nuclear fusion (for seemingly endless energy), synthetic gold, etc., will be as cheaply available as unmarked synthetic diamonds. Everyone will have 'em, and, so, people will start to complain of, say, that sickening yellow stuff, and smelly silver, that has come to cover everything. Who the heck will bother with all of that shit, then? And, so, or why now? Ha.

P.S. Best way to end the wars isn't to further subjugate the poor, but, to make everyone "rich".


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Lab grown diamonds have taken over the real thing, and prices for lab grown have plummeted taking down the prices for naturals at the same time!

However, gold is an element, not something that may be created, alchemists be damned.

In The Twilight Zone episode, "The Rip Van Winkle Caper," a group of thieves hides their stolen gold in suspended animation for 100 years, only to awaken and discover that gold is now worthless because it has been mass-produced, rendering their heist useless and teaching a lesson about the unknown nature of future value.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

There was nothing ambiguous about it.

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Oh my, these 2 princesses are making such a fuss.

Especially AW, he's all sizzle and no steak.

All his proof, but never shows any of it.

He got the vapors, and brought his boy in to cry about something that you did not do.