The WoV Thread

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by The Boz

The Wizard still cannot understand a relatively easy concept of penny stock market capitalization. Multiple members have told him there is no market for a scam stock like NTEK. But he continues to believe they is almost a million dollar value in a company that is been charged by the SEC, has no products, assets or even officers. Soo pool and others tried to explain how the scam worked but he can’t comprehend it and still insists there is real money left in the stock.

Is it any wonder why he lost almost everything years ago in Greece and had to beg for cash? And no concern on his end that some members over there lost money in the stock because they believed in the garbage he allowed a member who worked for the company to post. While posters with common sense like Axel told Ahigh his “skill” game would never work in a casino, Ahigh continued to promote the company.

The Ahigh Craps and NTEK saga, another highlight in the history of WoV.

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And it's really too bad, because that game was absolutely one of the best new skill game inventions I had seen up until that point, the entire concept was genius, even down to the details of the game and all the different options. The player funded pool system they use could be applied to just about any gaming machine or perhaps even a regular table game bonus or something. I actually think it was ahead of its time. My biggest criticism is a fact that they kept leading with the advantage play angle I think it was even called something like Advantage Play 2047. The other problem was the fact that it was actually categorized as a high limit table game and not a slot, and that's how they were trying to Market it(I didn't quite get the theory regarding that aspect, I'm sure they had a forced reason behind it).

I honestly think had Ahigh got involved with someone reputable, we would have seen his in game installed at least a few locations. I always thought they would do well just outside of poker rooms. But I could never imagine more than a few of them in any casino. I'm almost wondering if the software could have been promoted to online casinos, yeah I know, it's not quite the same as playing a pinball machine, but the costs would have been significantly less. And let's be fair, no skill game has taken off like many people thought it was. Right now it just seems like they're novelty games with the huge rake. Do they have beer pong skill games?

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Now you have me missing the Beer Pong at the old O’Sheas with the strange mixed smell of piss and Burger King in the air.

On the Ahigh machine, I remember never understanding why he was so adamant that the machine wouldn’t have a TITO on it. He wanted it to have a dedicated attendant seeing it as a table game. While pitching it as an AP game. I can only imagine the rolling eyes he got when pitching it to any casino executive.

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Originally Posted by The Boz

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by The Boz

The Wizard still cannot understand a relatively easy concept of penny stock market capitalization. Multiple members have told him there is no market for a scam stock like NTEK. But he continues to believe they is almost a million dollar value in a company that is been charged by the SEC, has no products, assets or even officers. Soo pool and others tried to explain how the scam worked but he can’t comprehend it and still insists there is real money left in the stock.

Is it any wonder why he lost almost everything years ago in Greece and had to beg for cash? And no concern on his end that some members over there lost money in the stock because they believed in the garbage he allowed a member who worked for the company to post. While posters with common sense like Axel told Ahigh his “skill” game would never work in a casino, Ahigh continued to promote the company.

The Ahigh Craps and NTEK saga, another highlight in the history of WoV.

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And it's really too bad, because that game was absolutely one of the best new skill game inventions I had seen up until that point, the entire concept was genius, even down to the details of the game and all the different options. The player funded pool system they use could be applied to just about any gaming machine or perhaps even a regular table game bonus or something. I actually think it was ahead of its time. My biggest criticism is a fact that they kept leading with the advantage play angle I think it was even called something like Advantage Play 2047. The other problem was the fact that it was actually categorized as a high limit table game and not a slot, and that's how they were trying to Market it(I didn't quite get the theory regarding that aspect, I'm sure they had a forced reason behind it).

I honestly think had Ahigh got involved with someone reputable, we would have seen his in game installed at least a few locations. I always thought they would do well just outside of poker rooms. But I could never imagine more than a few of them in any casino. I'm almost wondering if the software could have been promoted to online casinos, yeah I know, it's not quite the same as playing a pinball machine, but the costs would have been significantly less. And let's be fair, no skill game has taken off like many people thought it was. Right now it just seems like they're novelty games with the huge rake. Do they have beer pong skill games?

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Now you have me missing the Beer Pong at the old O’Sheas with the strange mixed smell of piss and Burger King in the air.

On the Ahigh machine, I remember never understanding why he was so adamant that the machine wouldn’t have a TITO on it. He wanted it to have a dedicated attendant seeing it as a table game. While pitching it as an AP game. I can only imagine the rolling eyes he got when pitching it to any casino executive.

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let me correct the name I guess it was called Vegas 2047. Nonetheless I believe Ahigh was leading with the advantage play angle. I'm not sure what type of patents or how expensive it is to get a TITO system added.

Looks like Mission146 went apeshit on Diversity Tomorrow and threatened to fight someone.
Shackleford stepped in and suspended him, and he also stripped him of his moderating duties lol :D

http://diversitytomorrow.com/thread/3236/17/#post144626

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Originally Posted by Kaboom

Looks like Mission146 went apeshit on Diversity Tomorrow and threatened to fight someone.
Shackleford stepped in and suspended him, and he also stripped him of his moderating duties lol :D

http://diversitytomorrow.com/thread/3236/17/#post144626

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The guy had lunch with Wizard of Nothing but can't remember much of it.
He can't hold his chicken nuggets.
He wants the constitution to be thrown out or rewritten.
etc etc etc

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

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Originally Posted by mcap

Lard ass welfare Bill/Jabba the hut is a bigger troll than Nathan, Tasha, LusciousSweet, Blackjackpro, Kentry, Cookie Monster, Midwest Player and Rob Singer combined.

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Remove Rob.Singer and I agree. Both Rob.Singer and BillRyan are in classes of their own. Most in common, they both have alot of stories.

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Singer is in a comedic class of his own, Billy is in 2 of his own, 400 pound weight class and know it all category.

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Originally Posted by Kaboom

Looks like Mission146 went apeshit on Diversity Tomorrow and threatened to fight someone.
Shackleford stepped in and suspended him, and he also stripped him of his moderating duties lol :D

http://diversitytomorrow.com/thread/3236/17/#post144626

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Yeah, I'm really broken-hearted about it, too. I'll no longer be able to moderate a forum that I frequently go months at a time without visiting.

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Originally Posted by monet

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Originally Posted by Kaboom

Looks like Mission146 went apeshit on Diversity Tomorrow and threatened to fight someone.
Shackleford stepped in and suspended him, and he also stripped him of his moderating duties lol :D

http://diversitytomorrow.com/thread/3236/17/#post144626

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The guy had lunch with Wizard of Nothing but can't remember much of it.
He can't hold his chicken nuggets.
He wants the constitution to be thrown out or rewritten.
etc etc etc

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Mainly, I don't like the Electoral College system, even though there's a very outside chance that my party will benefit from it one day. I've really warmed up to The Constitution, as late, because I hypothesized a country where it was actually followed and it's a pretty good one.

Unlike present party and other assorted trolls here, I don't remember much about it because I tend not to pay attention or have any concern about matters that have nothing to do with me.

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Originally Posted by Mission146

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Originally Posted by Kaboom

Looks like Mission146 went apeshit on Diversity Tomorrow and threatened to fight someone.
Shackleford stepped in and suspended him, and he also stripped him of his moderating duties lol :D

http://diversitytomorrow.com/thread/3236/17/#post144626

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Yeah, I'm really broken-hearted about it, too. I'll no longer be able to moderate a forum that I frequently go months at a time without visiting.

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Huge respect for staying what you think and being willing to back it up. You should feel welcome here.

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Originally Posted by monet

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Originally Posted by Kaboom

Looks like Mission146 went apeshit on Diversity Tomorrow and threatened to fight someone.
Shackleford stepped in and suspended him, and he also stripped him of his moderating duties lol :D

http://diversitytomorrow.com/thread/3236/17/#post144626

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The guy had lunch with Wizard of Nothing but can't remember much of it.
He can't hold his chicken nuggets.
He wants the constitution to be thrown out or rewritten.
etc etc etc

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Perhaps he just wants it amended.

Thank you, Boz and Darkoz.

I also want to make a little bit of a clarification on what KABOOM, whoever the hell he is, said:

I did not, "Threaten," to fight anyone. I challenged someone to mutually agreed upon combat. If a mutual agreement to fight were never legal, you couldn't have UFC, among other things.

If he doesn't accept the challenge, then I can assure you he has nothing to worry about from me.

More than that, even if there had been a threat, which there wasn't:

1.) I have no idea who he is or where he lives.

2.) I don't even know who he is on WoV, if anyone. I only assume he's someone on WoV because I don't know how else one ends up at DT.

3.) Again, he would have had to come to me. So, even if there had been a threat, which there wasn't, it was conditional rather than imminent.

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Originally Posted by Mission146

Thank you, Boz and Darkoz.

I also want to make a little bit of a clarification on what KABOOM, whoever the hell he is, said:

I did not, "Threaten," to fight anyone. I challenged someone to mutually agreed upon combat. If a mutual agreement to fight were never legal, you couldn't have UFC, among other things.

If he doesn't accept the challenge, then I can assure you he has nothing to worry about from me.

More than that, even if there had been a threat, which there wasn't:

1.) I have no idea who he is or where he lives.

2.) I don't even know who he is on WoV, if anyone. I only assume he's someone on WoV because I don't know how else one ends up at DT.

3.) Again, he would have had to come to me. So, even if there had been a threat, which there wasn't, it was conditional rather than imminent.

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Aside from expelling some steam what would mutually agreed upon combat do?

Seems pretty dangerous to either side since you don't know each other. Kind of like a UFC blind date.

I mean what if the guy arrived and he looks like Danny Devito? You probably are fine.

What if he looks like Danny Devito's twin? (That would be Arnold Schwartzeneggger BTW)

Then you are kinds fucked

lol Wizard...

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/info...50/#post770664

I would like to welcome kewlj back to WoV.
This is a rare case of a nuke being overturned, after serving over four years. I think this sets a record for the longest suspension (he served 3-14-2016 to 5-30-2020).
I ask the forum to not rehash old stuff and let bygones by bygones.
Kewlj tells a good story and I look forward to his observations on the reopening of Vegas this Thursday.

Hard to believe that was 4 years ago.

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Originally Posted by Darkoz

Aside from expelling some steam what would mutually agreed upon combat do?

Seems pretty dangerous to either side since you don't know each other. Kind of like a UFC blind date.

I mean what if the guy arrived and he looks like Danny Devito? You probably are fine.

What if he looks like Danny Devito's twin? (That would be Arnold Schwartzeneggger BTW)

Then you are kinds fucked

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I guess the first thing is that I've met a number of people from the various forums and the next person I meet who would concern me in a straight fight will be the first.

I'm not going to get into a measuring contest, but when I was 12, I got jumped by three high school kids who beat the shit out of me. We're talking about bruised ribs, concussion, busted nose, both eyes black, lips all busted up and one of my cheeks swelled to the size of a grapefruit.

It was after that I said to myself, "I'm going to get to the point where I have enough ability that I at least have a chance if something like that ever happens again." So, I did.

And, you kind of play the probabilities. But, if I get my ass kicked, then I get my ass kicked. It would not be the first time I've won or lost a fight.

More than anything, the point is we can run around calling people, "Snowflakes," all the time and be big bad keyboard warriors, whatever. Let's see how a person responds when confronted with a legitimate challenge. Even if the person thought it was a bluff, you'll see that he did not so much as call it.

Which is perfectly fine. I don't have any particular desire to kick the shit out of someone and even less to get the shit kicked out of me.

Anyway, as far as I know, he doesn't post here. I can't post there, temporarily. So, it's somewhat unfair for me to even be talking about him here.

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Originally Posted by jbjb

Hard to believe that was 4 years ago.

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I know, right?

Time flies, feels like it was a little over 2 years ago.

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Originally Posted by Mission146

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Originally Posted by monet

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Originally Posted by Kaboom

Looks like Mission146 went apeshit on Diversity Tomorrow and threatened to fight someone.
Shackleford stepped in and suspended him, and he also stripped him of his moderating duties lol :D

http://diversitytomorrow.com/thread/3236/17/#post144626

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The guy had lunch with Wizard of Nothing but can't remember much of it.
He can't hold his chicken nuggets.
He wants the constitution to be thrown out or rewritten.
etc etc etc

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Mainly, I don't like the Electoral College system, even though there's a very outside chance that my party will benefit from it one day. I've really warmed up to The Constitution, as late, because I hypothesized a country where it was actually followed and it's a pretty good one.

Unlike present party and other assorted trolls here, I don't remember much about it because I tend not to pay attention or have any concern about matters that have nothing to do with me.

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Without the electoral college New York and California would elect all the national leaders. When you see national polls that say Biden 46% Trump 42%, take Cali and NY out of that equation and Trump leads.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by Mission146

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Originally Posted by monet

The guy had lunch with Wizard of Nothing but can't remember much of it.
He can't hold his chicken nuggets.
He wants the constitution to be thrown out or rewritten.
etc etc etc

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Mainly, I don't like the Electoral College system, even though there's a very outside chance that my party will benefit from it one day. I've really warmed up to The Constitution, as late, because I hypothesized a country where it was actually followed and it's a pretty good one.

Unlike present party and other assorted trolls here, I don't remember much about it because I tend not to pay attention or have any concern about matters that have nothing to do with me.

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Without the electoral college New York and California would elect all the national leaders. When you see national polls that say Biden 46% Trump 42%, take Cali and NY out of that equation and Trump leads.

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No president can win with just two states electorally so that's just not true.

However if it was true that the population of NY and Cali could outvote the other 48 states then it probably means they should get to decide the next election. Your argument would be if the mass of the population is all congregated in two states that's less valid than if a minority of people are spread out.

Which makes no sense to me

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

Without the electoral college New York and California would elect all the national leaders.

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All the national leaders? What national leaders do you mean?

Right now, about .5% of the population elects the president. In 2016, it was basically 4 states, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin and Florida. Trump happened to win them all narrowly. In 2020, it looks like it will be Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Florida again, with Arizona and North Carolina joining. Michigan seems to fairly solidly heading back blue. So we may have 5 states this election that decide. And really it is 1 or 2 swing counties in each of these swings states that really decide, so it is even a smaller number of people that really elect the president. And because of that 40-45 states don't see either candidate from either party. All the campaigning is done in those 4-5 swing states. So in a sense the rest of us, our vote doesn't matter. Only a handful of voters in a few key states do.

Right now the republicans and republican supporters want no part of fixing the electoral college problem. But Texas is on the verge of turning blue. Probably not this election, but clearly demographics are changing and in the next election or two it will be blue. So just imagine, in 2024, or 2028, a democrat running for president wins California, New York, Texas, and maybe a swing state of Florida. All they need is another 4 or 5 states and they are over 270. And maybe the democrat wins California, New York, Texas by slim margins and loses 40 or 41 states by a larger margin, meaning they lose the popular vote and pretty significantly. All of the sudden, the republicans will be interested in amending or doing away with the electoral college system. :rolleyes:

If there was no electoral college, you would see republican candidates campaign in New York and California. You would see democratic candidates campaign in Utah, and Alabama. Even if they lose those states by a 2-1 margin, every vote they pick up counts just the same as every other vote.