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Why are you so stuck on them and wish to ignore all the subsequent data that has come out?
Because they sat on the Intergovernmental Panel for Climate Change (IPCC) and informed government policy on Climate Change. No doubt future data was never doctored either. These guys learned their lesson - don't send e-mails or chat texts. Discuss in person or not at all. I guess if gravity works now, future data might suggest it won't in the future - we might not have the theory down pat yet. They had the tech back then to show the correlation between CO2 and local temperature - future data won't change that and neither will fraudsters.
Government has done relatively little. This is why I only post stuff that is currently going on. As some point it'll be apparent.
I do believe you are right in that IPCC have a strong incentive to not be straight-forward about all funded studies. For non-selfish reasons which are almost never comparable to other scientific fraud but you can basically use this argument for all science. Some scientists lied therefore all subsequent research can't be trusted. So I guess you work from the default point that science is false? What is the burden of counter evidence needed? How do you segregate scientists to trust vs those who you can't?
The original alarmists worked for oil companies. You think that was the right approach for guys who wanted continued funding? Or did they see the potential for money from future grants not coming from oil companies? Did they know oil companies would pay them off if they just shut-up and retired?
From this perspective you can't trust oil companies anymore than climate scientists. Exact same thing. Hide inconvenient studies.
If you remove the oil companies out of the equation for lying, then you're only left with pretty much conspiracy theorists.
When the loons who are leading the denial stuff decide there is no more money in their grifts, it will be beyond too late.
It is a bit like Pascal's wager but meant for the global and future global populations.