Gosh Alan ... you're a pathological liar who makes up outrageous stories about seeing 18 yos in a row to get attention.
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Gosh Alan ... you're a pathological liar who makes up outrageous stories about seeing 18 yos in a row to get attention.
Right, I would lie about someone debunking Rob because I'm too embarrassed to spend time debunking Rob. Do you ever listen to yourself?
If you believe this, make the bet.
Mickey, you turned into a real maroon since you've lost neurons. Why don't you haul your ass to LV August 8-12 so we can have a discussion?
And just for you, mickey, I'll lay $500. You lay ten bucks. Let me know when Todd has your ten bucks. And try to not keel over before he has your ten bucks.
I said something. You said I lied. I'm giving you 50-1 that I didn't. What kind of hotshot AP would turn that down?
Only 2 weeks or so for the guy editing the pic to get it to a halfway believable format....lol
What a joke. The best is the useful idiot delivering it.
You know Keystone, I'm not sure what you do for a living, but if you're not writing for some R-rated version of Jimmy Kimmel, you missed your calling in life.
So what do you think the odds are on mickey crimm putting a sawbuck where his mouth is? Damn, now mickey has me thinking homo-erotically, too. That "where his mouth is" brings to mind Jaws of Life and all that.
I wonder just how many sets of pictures there are of this jackpot? And I wonder how long it will take for all to be posted? And wouldn't it be something if the last set of photos shows Rob sitting at the machine, smiling in a Hawaiian shirt?
Just like Rob to drag this out... isn't it?
You are correct the male is escort was a working theory I had. You are not a male escort. Investigating this theory lead me to the trove of evidence I have against you tho. You are very cunning in your post. Slightly Changing important details to cover your tracks. A date, or location, small things. However you can’t help but post about your crimes. It’s almost a open confession. I’m researching death records now, reports on a certain type of drug used that effects the heart valves in people. It’s a mountain top leap I know but will see gun play will see
I'm beginning to realize how coach belly and mickey have some really skewed perception what actual gamblers think of Singer. They are shocked, shocked I tell you, to discover that lurkers and posters have kept tabs on Singer for years regarding tens of thousands of posts filled with nonsense and lies.
There's a lot of people on these forums who take video poker seriously and who play seriously. I'm a video poker civilian compared to hundreds of these players. Most of these people have played somewhere between a hundred and a thousand times what I've played. Some have kept tabs on Singer through the decades. Serious players who play optimally are going to have issues with Singer's lifelong storyline and all the bullshit.
So when somebody steps forward to point out a catalogued analysis debunking Singer, coach and mickey think I'm making it up that someone contacted me? You've gotta be kidding. What kind of brain dead idiot would come to that conclusion? I'm going to invent somebody pointing out debunkings of Singer? What moronic sense does that even make?
I don't understand how anyone could be so damned stupid.
Here's some advice, Alan. Learn to read. I know, I know, at your age, reading is a bitch.
Nobody asked me to research anything. They pointed it out to me and sent me the link. I didn't look up anything.
If you want a piece of the action, I'll give you mickey crimm's deal. Put up a sawbuck against $500. Or just keep not reading and yapping, which is what you usually do.
P.S. Sorry, coach, you're still at even money, buddy. LOL.
Keep whipping me. It will let you get out all your frustrations over Singer.
Yeah, I'm real frustrated.
Take the deal. Send Todd $10. I'll send him $500. Easy-peasy. See if somebody contacted me regarding the 2014 post where Todd debunked Singer.
And either take some probability courses or learn to read. One or the other.
I'll tell you what. I re-do a probability course from Texas-Austin each summer on DVD. If you're strapped for cash, I'll buy you one for my birthday (July 30) if you promise to watch the whole thing.
Redietz I didnt want to read your package of ads from 20 years ago and your contests from a small subscription only magazine and neither did Dan because I offered to have my office send it to him.
Frankly we didnt open it for months because we were afraid you laced it with poison.
We said to each other who would send something like this and why?
Now you know the truth. I'm afraid of you.
https://www.wondrium.com/what-are-th...ity-made-clear
The probability course comes directly from The Great Courses. No ricin.
Redietz I wouldn't click on anything you posted. I'm afraid of you.
Monet, help me out. Is it Proverbs 12: 21 that I'm looking for here?
Alan, why in the world would you fear Redietz?
He's seems to be one of the more "normal" posters.
What, is there a back story here?
FDR aptly said “The only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”
That was a bit naive but you catch the drift.
C'mon now, you kids play nice.
Well, this brings back memories. I remember precisely why I sent that. It was because when I debunked Rob Singer's sports gambling advice, he then claimed that the redietz on the forum was NOT the Robert Dietz in Playbook Magazine, which was nationally available on all newsstands at the time, or who gave a paper at the National Conference on Gambling and Risk-Taking or who appeared in Who's Who in Sports Gambling or who had won The Wise Guys Contest or who had won Heritage Sports' 25K Super Bowl Contest or who had been monitored by "Tipsters or Gypsters?" He said I was someone else pretending to be THAT Robert Dietz.
So, to prove the forum redietz was THAT Robert Dietz, I put together that compilation of documents that someone who was not me couldn't possibly have.
But, when it was time to simply open a package and debunk Rob Singer, you wouldn't do it.
Sound familiar?
P.S. Yes, the "Sound Familiar?" is a double entendre, since Alan is once more being the somewhat biased intrepid reporter.
It was a five pound package. Who sends a five pound package?
Somebody who didn't want to leave a shred of doubt that Rob Singer was lying.
And someone who assumed you could read.
My bad.
I sent you some complete copies of "Tipsters or Gypsters?" so you could see what handicapping was about. Some of those issues had summaries and reports on a hundred sports handicappers. I actually thought you might be interested since the author was a consumer advocate and did summaries of business practices besides handicapping records. I wasn't going to just send some highlights of me. That would be poor journalism. Highlighting me without putting me in context would not be scientifically appropriate.
Alan is practicing what is known as revisionist history again. While I wasn't here for many of Alan's shenanigans and only read about them, I was here for this one. Allow me to refresh some people memories.
Rob, as usual was lying about Redietz, who he was and that he solicited members here. Redietz wanted to clear his name, which at the time I thought was a futile effort. None of these people are interested in the truth. So Redietz put this "package" together of some of his history. With no one willing to receieve the package, Alan agreed to and Alan provided Redietz an address to send it to, supposedly his office address. Again, Alan requested this, that he would be the arbitrator.
Redietz sent the package and then what is now known as "The Great Mendelson tap dance" began.
First Alan said he only visited the office once a week so had not seen the information.
A week later Alan revived to he only visited his office every other week.
Another week went by and Alan revised that he only visited his office once a month.
A few weeks later and it was once every other month.
And then once a quarter (every 3 months).
More time passed and this one was my favorite, Alan said he did not even have keys to his own office.
And finally, the office was closed and Alan retired.
I mean THIS is the guy that frequently tells us he is a journalist seeking the truth. You know, interviewed Presidents and queens. :confused:
And now Alan says he was afraid of redietz and the package redietz sent....the package Alan requested Redietz sent and provided the address.
Dan trashes Rob. Rob trashes Dan. And in other news the sun came up today.
Rob announced early on in the thread he would be quitting this forum. Well before PV made his appearance.
KJ is just doing his usual trolling by calling me a puppet. Two can play that game. KJ is maxpuke's puppet. Sucks his dick and everything.
Rob and I have been in phone contact for a couple of years. So KJ's "obviously he's still reading the forum" is another idiotic speculation by KJ. I told Rob about the cursor's over the phone. KJ didn't even stop to think how I got the pics I posted this morning. Embecile.
This is just another post where KJ makes shit up and calls it the truth.
Here's the damning thing about this stuff. I operate in a social and business environment. It's like any other endeavor. There are contacts and networking. People know who knows what. My face was on television, in magazines. I interacted regularly with other people doing what I do. And I'm one of the more isolationist handicappers.
Singer had no network to vouch for him, no associates, nobody publicly going to bat for his expertise. He was isolated, no corroboration. You either believed him or you didn't. Well, there are reasons people put themselves in isolation from evaluation or criticism or interaction.
Alan Mendelson, a very respected journalist, committed to backing Singer, even with the non-corroboration, the isolation, the lack of anyone in the field agreeing with his methods, all big red flags. I sent Alan reality and context -- he could have called any of the people in that package -- and he decided he didn't want to know. Just very strange.
Anyone wanting some up front and personal info on Singer could contact the widow of his former employer. I believe Eileen Di Rocco is still alive. If Alan wanted to find out how and why Gaming Today hired Rob, he could simply email her. And ask her what she thought of Singer. I suspect he'd get a simple "No Comment" and that "No Comment" would tell you all you need to know.
Well Kewlj when my partner told me what had arrived I was in no rush to go there to open it. I wasn't expecting a 5 pound package. It scared us.
We put it in a storage locker at the office.
I spoke to Dan. He said he wouldn't open it either and didnt want me to send it.
Why would someone send so much? Strange, no?
Obsessed people are dangerous people. I wouldn't want to be near half the fruitcakes on this forum.
Carry on.
Who would turn it down? An anonymous AP that wants to keep it that way, dimwit. I don't need your chump change $500 anyway.
And meet up with a mentally deranged person who threatened my life? GTFO!
And one thing is for sure. You don't listen to yourself or you wouldn't post martian bullshit you.
Dan doesn't trash Rob. Dan Druff simply shares his expert opinion of what the truth is. He has information that some of the rest of us don't have about locations and sock puppets. And he has been on these forums for a very long time and knows how to read people. That is what a poker player does and Druff is a professional poker player. Rob attacks Druff, because Rob attacks anybody and everybody that dare call out or challenge his claims. You of all people know this, but you are just incapable of being honest.
And part of that evaluation with Druff no doubt includes the persons history on the forums. Druff has witnessed Rob lie about this and that and the other. Too many to name. And he has witnessed Rob post phony evidence, doctored pictures of jackpots, a generic bill of sale printed off the internet with all signatures in the same handwriting, a Photo in an RV at the RV dealership for God sakes. :rolleyes:
Any normal person would take these things as a starting point and say the onus is on Rob to prove any Mega-claim going forward. But not mickeycrimm. Mickey say "I have no reason to doubt him". Mickey you are now full blown part of a Singers scams. You are what Alan was all those years. You must be proud.
And BTW, 2 days ago, Mickey announced he was asked to tone down the gay attacks. He never said by who, I am assuming Druff? Doesn't matter, because mickey has been unable to do so. Mickey is doing exactly what Rob has done all these years. With the truth not on his side, all he has is personal attacks, lies about people, gay this gay that, about people who clearly are not even gay. Crimm is as big a psychopath as Singer now.
I'm going to ask Redietz the same question I asked years ago: why didnt you post photos of your own articles?
The BS answer you gave me years ago was that the articles were copyrighted. I pointed out that you could post photos using the fair access rule of the federal copyright laws.
You have something to prove? Post it. Don't go running to others to vouch for you.
Alan, you have 2 very clear options. Borrow or buy a mid-range metal detector. Do not buy the lowend rebadged Amazon shìt.. if it is clear then open. Other option is take a large caliber rifle and shoot it out in the desert.wait halfan hour, have a beer, whatever. Then carefully approach it and inspect for powders or putty type stuff. Either one call the bomb squad and let's get the feds involved. You could call 311 and see if theyll send someone out but that seems like a crazy idea. But the most craziest is to open it yourself.
The ditz has made death threats against at least 2 members...Ozzy should be able to confirm if that's a forum record.
When the ditz originally proposed this bet, I suggested the following...
I'm not aware that Druff has agreed to any of this, but the ditz is still insisting that challengers first send money to Druff for there to be any bet.
That's a bullshit move right there, ditz has it bass-ackwards...even in 3-card Monty, the maker put his money up first, to cover any action that the bettor lays out.
Hey ditz...if this important to you, enlist your arbiter first, then move on to additional terms.
That's step one...it's primary, reasonable and non-negotiable.
There are just way too many crazies populating and dominating this forum now. Even Alan has gone complete troll, calling people names with dick references. These are fucking grown men, most in their 60's and 70's for God sakes.
It used to be 1 or 2 crazies lead by Singer, and everyone just laughed at them and knew they were full of shit. Now these MFers are coming out of the woodwork and just dominating this forum.
MaxPen says there is no good reason for anyone to ever visit WoV. What reason is there for any reasonable person to continue on here? Seriously? :(
Just saw this picture as, I was tied up with some things.
Rob would be better off if he had just left things where they were at. Everytime he gives more information, he digs himself a deeper hole.
That unknown room on the left side of the photo? In the other photos it was difficult to make out exactly what it was.
Now, it looks to be exercise equipment! Now, can a casino have exercise equipment? Not Impossible. But not likely.
It's likely a house like I originaly thought.
More to come...
Since you guys are talking about guns, I suggest this recent podcast with Joe Rogan and one of the whitest black men on the subject.
Some say 65 or 62 percent but I think its actually 60% of all gun deaths are by suicide in America.
Anyways, whatever, listen to the entire podcast and enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PE5ztBd05co
All of this Singer junk has been going on so long, I've forgotten the majority of it. I started trying to locate my email to GT and Eileen Di Rocco (I keep just 80K on file for each email address), and I stumbled upon a couple of oldies but beauties.
1) Rob claims he was told by an editor at Gaming Today that they want to him to return to writing his column. The guy he names is David Stratton. When Eileen Di Rocco was contacted (not by me, mind you), she explained that Stratton hadn't worked at GT for three years. LOL.
2) Rob claims he was invited to be moderator of a video poker panel at the annual LV gaming conference. Not only is he not the moderator; it turns out there's no panel listed for the conference. As way of explanation, Rob says it turned into a private party in his hotel room or something to that effect. Evidently I had contacted the conference to pin down the time and location of the panel and there was no such animal. I forgot about that one.
It's just one long series of really dumb claims that never pan out. In fact, they are rarely close to panning out. And, really, Rob's pretty consistent with this nonsense. As are the intrepid journalists who don't bother to make a call and check on it.
Weak sauce bitch move to try and drag Mickey into this. We met, had a meal, talked some about the game and parted ways. There is nothing to vouch over.
You call me a piece of shit for pointing out you are literally the nutlow of gambling forums?. You add zilch.
Everyone else has their moments. You don't.
Ok?
Oh yeah and you're the only one dumb enough to respond to my ridiculous post. You're a serious dumdum
My gambling habit is so bad:
5) When I telepath the VP machines, they tell me to go home.
4) I put the top half of my white parlay cards in a blender so I can snort them at halftime.
3) I've seen more consecutive YO's than Alan Mendelson.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TS7GewABxQ4
2) My bookie lets me bet what the score is when the Monday Night Game kicks off.
1) Fred Flintstone is my ringtone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N57SxyxUhTQ
I finished the thread.
Yes, I saw what PositiveVariance discovered (good job), and I have some comments about that, as well as Rob's "Vegas strip" visit.
First off, I doubt Rob was ever in Vegas. As I mentioned before, he was using a VPN service showing a Vegas location, but that's meaningless. Someone on another continent could show up here as being from "Las Vegas" with the same trick. Fortunately I can tell the difference between VPNs and legit local IPs. While Rob might claim he was using a VPN while also in Vegas, that wouldn't make any sense. He was using a service called "IP Vanish" (or one of its subsidiary services), and no local Vegas internet connections would subscribe to such a thing. In fact, I am familiar with the IPs of the Wifi for most Vegas hotels, and Rob's IP was none of those. Instead, it was that VPN service meant to change his apparent location. Nice try, though.
I think PositiveVariance figured out the screen shot pretty well. Indeed, this was run on a Windows computer. The cursor, the blue upper bar, and the minimize "dash" at the top right gave that all away. The "editing" excuse is garbage. If he needed to edit the screen shot in order to get it down to a size this site would accept for posting, then it wouldn't make a sense to take a picture of the edited photo, as that would induce the same problem all over again (it would again be too big!)
As I mentioned before, and has been pointed out by many others, the stack of bills were fake. Rob is being reckless by posting that he has $700k sitting in his home. This is a public forum, and certain unsavory characters read this place. He is putting himself and his family in danger by making such claims, as some might take it seriously and believe that there's $700k in cash to steal from his house. Many people would kill for that type of money. Pretty dumb, Rob. Your wife would be pissed if she knew. For the record, there's zero chance Rob has $700k sitting in his house, so anyone considering going down and committing a crime for it shouldn't bother. You should be thanking people for pointing out this being a lie, Rob.
In summary:
- Rob did not play $25/credit UX
- Rob did not hit a $1.5m jackpot
- Rob did not tip $20k
- Rob did not come to Vegas two weeks ago to meet with Max, Alan, or anyone
- Rob does not have $700k in his safe
- Rob does not even have tens of thousands in his safe -- the cash was fake
Thank you for playing.
I also want to address the numerous comments along the lines of, "Todd shouldn't allow XXXXX on this site".
This is not WoV. This is a mostly free speech site which I basically allow to run itself. Occasionally I will take action if things start to get out of hand. For example, I don't want to see threats of physical violence, doxxing, or gratuitous racism/homophobia/anti-Semitism here.
At the same time, I'm not a babysitter. Many of the adults fighting on here are older than I am, and I'm not a young man myself. If you lie down in the mud and bash other people, you can't really cry foul because someone called you a bad name. If you can't take the namecalling, perhaps you should re-evaluate your own posting history and ask yourself if you're trying to agitate others.
Finally, I want to address Rob Singer's presence in general. I've made statements about this before, but it apparently needs repeating. Rob is a longtime troll who likes to arrogantly lie, and then insult anyone doubting him. He lives for the reactions he gets. At some point he decided he wanted to put together a very elaborate troll job to get everyone riled up, and it worked. This thread is now 92 pages. He put substantial effort into preparing for this one -- even buying prop money.
Rob is the same Rob who has been here since the beginning. In fact, since I didn't show up here until 2013, he pre-dates my involvement by 3 years. I pretty much inherited Rob Singer when I took over this forum. Could I ban him? Sure. Am I going to? No.
Rob is not a danger to anyone. He doesn't scam, doesn't threaten physical harm to people, and doesn't dox anyone. He's just a liar and a troll. To my knowledge, not a single person has been dumb enough to follow his "systems", and if they were, that's on them. You have to do your own research when people on gambling forums claim to have found a magic bullet winning strategy. Rob has never charged a penny for his "strategies", and never gained financially from his involvement here. Additionally, he is subject to such heavy criticism that one would have to be a moron to believe anything he's claimed, given all of the counter posts and counter evidence.
Rob is and has always been part of the Vegas Casino Talk landscape. However, I have banned him from many threads here when he ruins serious discussions, and will continue to do so as needed.
Regarding Seedvalue:
It's not WizardOfNothing/Jeff. It's a completely separate person who in fact is being honest that he dislikes Jeff.
Seedvalue is a very weird dude. He tweets at me sometimes under various burner accounts. But kewlJ's guess about his identity was incorrect. I don't know if Seedvalue really has the money he claims, but kewlJ is on the wrong track regarding who it is.
I will accept that. I already apologized several pages back saying "if I was wrong", so I will up grade to just "I was wrong". But this BS about him threatening to expose who I am publicly and to casinos has got to stop. That can not be acceptable. As well as this goofy nonsense of a male prostitute seducing older men. People need to reside more in the real world, and not these alternative fantasy worlds just because they don't like someone, or someone's nationality, race, or sexual preference.
Since this forum is primarily used by APs, I really don't like the "I'm going to reveal who you are to casinos management" or anything like that. While that's not actual doxxing (since no info is being posted here), it's still a threat meant to intimidate others from posting here.
So don't do that, or I'm going to have to ban anyone who does. I want people to feel safe to post on this forum.
Fair enough
Although I did uncover some very unsettling things about gunplay I will put them in the vault. He knows Im on to him.
As far as what I’m worth or what I have made let’s just say the pics I post of my money are real. No props here.
And my advice the little bit I have shared regarding comps or plays is 100 percent fact.
Druff, maxpen has been firing homophobic content at me for almost three years. I finally got enough of it and started firing back. My intention has been to repeately insult and humiliate him for his transgressions. I've done a great job. He's triggered out the ass because he can dish it out but can't take it.
However, in honor of your request I will knock off the homophobic content directed at him. For now. But if maxpen fires just one homophobic post at me the war is back on. I will go right back to homophobic content. I simply will not tolerate being attacked with homophobic content without responding in kind.
This goes for KJ too. KJ has never said a word about maxpen's homophobic content but lashes out at me about it. My side didn't start that shit. His side did. I'm not the one that is going to sit back and honor your request if other members are not doing the same.