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It's huge with three levels. Imagine all of Caesars Palace -- the Palace Casino and the Forum Casino -- filled with poker tables. And on the second and third floors are the tournament areas. Plus their own hotel and restaurants.
What many people don't realize is that LA really is the poker capital of the world.
It was a very fun evening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Most Mississippi Stud games have a max of $50,000. If one gets a Royal it pays 500 times each bet. So with a $10 ante if you are dealt two Royal cards you must bet $30 on to see 3rd street. Continue betting max so you get $100 bet to get the max payout.
When I got the Royal I was betting $100 on the anti. I was dealt AT diamonds. Bet $100 on 3rd, $100 on 4th.... At this point I have 4 to the Royal. I asked the other player for a minute because I was thinking of betting $300 on 5th street even though I knew the table cap only needed a total $40 wager with a Royal. I was doing this for a flush (to pay $3,600) or a paying pair which would then pay $600 as well. I was lucky enough to get the Royal. They immediately plopped down two racks of $100 chips and I went right to the players bank.
If there was no cap it would have paid $300,000.00 with the total $600 I had wagered. From what I understand it was the largest amount that would have potentially been won on a single hand at Commerce.
I was disappointed to find out you can ask the floor personal to raise the table limits by paying extra collection (a $1 fee paid for each hand). One extra dollar would have gotten me an extra $20K.
It is a very fun game.
California casinos (poker casinos) use white chips for $100. At least the bike, Commerce, and Hollywood park.
I only had one big hand which was the flush Alan speaks of. Everything else was a few pairs, two pairs, and a few trips. I played for about 6 or 7 hours.
I wanted to fill a rack and then I was out of there... I had my rack filled with 100 x $100 chips but had to break one to tip the dealer ($25 for a $3000 three of a kind with 3 tens on the board (I had J8 suited)). Played one more hand and just about ran out of there...with a security guard walking me to the car.
My third time with a multi thousand dollar take on this game at Commerce.
I love the game it is a lot of fun. Can get expensive if you chase, but very rarely do I see 3rd street which is why I can justify the $100 anti.
I think of it like holdem... You get dealt pocket pairs every 17 hands... After I see about 17 hands I up my bet. Usually works out as pairs 6-A you can bet max...
Chumash has this game with no cap... But they only let you bet $25 anti... Max possible wager is $250. A Royal in this instance would be $125,000 which I plan on hitting one of these days... Only played there once.
Congrats. I've seen 3 people get royals on MS. So far for me, I haven't been able to squeak out better than quads. But as you guys know, I'm picky with who we play against :-)
A lot of places around the country only have a $25 max bet. $100 is out there but not as common. One casino in the east used to be a $500 max.
Last night (Saturday night) one of our forum members sent me a text message that included a free burger coupon at a restaurant we both like. I called him to thank him and quickly the conversation turned to casinos. I told him I hadn't been to Rincon since September, and I only go to Vegas now and only once a month. And then we both got "the tickle" and I suggested we drive up to play a little craps. We've done this before -- just get in the car and drive and play a few hours.
I insisted that this would be only a "craps session" with NO video poker and I said if I so much as walk towards a VP machine IF I HAVE LOST AT CRAPS to tackle me and drag me out of the casino.
Well, he didn't have to drag me out. I won at craps.
We went to Bellagio because I really like their craps tables the best -- and better than Caesars. I hit the Small, the Tall and the ALL with $25 on each. 35-to-1, plus 35-to-1, plus 175-to-1 were the payoffs. I admit it wasn't on my first turn with the dice but during the few hours I played my roll was "looking good" and I was hitting numbers and making passes.
The photo below shows my "final number" (yo-11) which gave me the Tall and completed the All. Earlier I had hit the Small and had been paid which is why the $25 "small bet" chip is no longer on the layout. I was the only player at the table, and forum member John was there for moral support.
This was the fourth time that I made the ALL at Bellagio but the first time when betting $25 on all three positions. The three previous ALL wins were with $5 bets on all three positions.
After cashing out I tried some $1 7/5 Bonus poker for a few hundred. No quads, three full houses, two flushes and overall a very unexciting and short time playing VP.
Cashing out the chips from the craps table was not easy. I walked from the table with about $6600 including a $5,000 chip and the cashier needed to verify my table game play before releasing the money. Unfortunately, I left the craps table only sixty seconds earlier and my play was not in the system. The cashier called the craps pit and a floor person actually had to walk to the cage to verify I won the chips in order for a payment.
I have had similar experiences at other casinos. It seems they want to verify you actually played to be sure you are not cashing chips for someone who owes on a marker, and to be sure you didn't steal the chips.
Becoming normal procedure with $5k chips. Even $1k and $500 at some places. Nice win BTW.
You are correct. At Caesars Palace if you present a $1,000 chip at the cage they will ask you about markers. If you present $500 or smaller chips they will not ask you. Sometimes the craps dealers will give you $500 chips and tell you they are doing it so you won't be troubled at the cage with questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
Hi Alan:
Congratulations on the features bet. Do you always bet $25 on all three nowadays? Looks like your entire win was caused by the features bet. These kinds of stories, particularly craps stories, are a big reason I log onto this forum. By contrast, I am running out of patience seeing all the recent adolescent boasting about whose balance sheet is larger. Looks like grown up men acting like they were still in middle school.
FAB
I bet Alan hit 17 more yo's (in a row) right after that. Hehe, jk. :)
Out of curiosity, Alan, do you record your dice numbers (or tosses or whatever)? When you say, "I hit..." do you mean you were throwing the dice and hit the ALL, or you had placed an ALL wagered and the shooter (not you) threw the 10 required numbers before a 7?
When I say I hit the ALL four times I meant I was shooting. I've never been at a table when another shooter hit the ALL but other shooters have hit the Small or the Tall.
I don't record my numbers rolled. The only thing I care about is minimizing the 7s which is what the cross sixes set is supposed to do.
Nice hit, Alan.
Caesars Palace Hit and Run
Early Friday morning... like around 5am... I left home to pick up forum member John (ke6cdh) for a quickie drive up to Caesars Palace. A few days ago John went with me on a hit and run to Bellagio where I hit the ALL at craps... and Friday afternoon John hit the ALL at Caesars. John has been practicing his shooting with the "hardways set." On his first turn with the dice he hit the ALL. The last number needed was the Yo (11). My ALL bet is shown on the layout -- John's was paid first and his ALL bet was removed as was his Small and Tall and my Small and Tall were removed also after they were paid out. See the photo below showing only my $5 ALL remaining which had not yet been paid.
This is the first time I won an ALL bet thrown by another player and this was the first time John hit the ALL.
John and I were the only players betting the Small, Tall, All -- and the table was full. But after John's hit about half the table started betting the STA but most were betting $1 or $2 on each position. The table minimum was $10.
We both had a win on our little jaunt. No other players hit the ALL during the four hours I was at the craps table, but several players hit either the Small or the Tall.
This might be a little disappointing for Total Rewards members: my average bet at craps was rated at $260 for 4-hours, 10-minutes. When my session was over I check my tier points at a machine and found I earned 1,018 tier points and only $30 in comps. That's really disappointing: more than 4 hours with a $260 average bet and only $30 in comps earned. It's a good thing John and I only drove up there to play a few hours and didn't stay overnight or go to a restaurant because we didn't earn comps for anything more than a dessert.
You candy a**. Then singer fu**ed you up the a**, right?
Edited by moderator. Slobdinger forgot that he said he wouldn't post here anymore. It's been fixed so he doesn't have to worry about forgetting again.
I'm a big fan of freedom of speech.
Nice hit Alan. What is the "hardways set"? Maybe you do have some "dice influencing" ability. Wasn't it not too long ago you hit the "ALL" bet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I don't think CET values the action of craps betters.
Now I understand why a friend of mine must put in a series of lengthy shifts at that level to make Diamond. That's a lot of work.
Red, can you PM me please? Thank you.
John was the shooter-- he was throwing the dice and I went along for the ride as he hit the ALL.Quote:
Originally Posted by a2a3dseddie
The hardways set has the dice arranged to show 22, 33, 44, 55 on the outside faces.
With the 44 and 55 it wouldn't make a difference, but what about the 22 33 and 66? Are the dots for the numbers in a 'flying wedge' or parallel? Do you just alternate numbers or always throw with 55 or 44 up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
John will have to comment. I use cross sixes set.
I had a lucky night Saturday night. took $2K and played $5 bonus poker, hit quad 2's for $2K so I'm up by 1K at this point. I go play some slots and hit the 9K. then go to play 10 hand,and get dealt 4 to a royal. came home $11768 up :-)
Sweeeeet rymetymeuk! Congrats!
Resurrecting this thread. I hadn't played VP since Vegas in January. But after a tough meeting with our friend IRS where I got my ass kicked (client owes about a million in taxes), I played for 1 hour and 15 minutes. No pictures cause I didn't want to answer calls.
2 royals; quad aces, deuces, threes, fours, 7's and kings. I was playing ultimate x 3 way for one royal and the deuces. No multiplier on either.
I was playing 3-way super triple play for the others. No "kickers" on the aces, 3's or 4's.
Both royals were on KQJ hold.
Most fun I've had in VP in years. And I hit (repeatedly) and ran.
P.S.---worst paytables in the area. But the cards were popping.
Just to be clear...you hit 2 royals and 6 quads in 75 minutes?
Six quads in 75 minutes is not unusual. While two royals is on the unusual side it's very believable. I hit two royals about six hands apart... but there were about 14 hours between the two royals.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
Yes coach. And to be clear, I almost never win at VP. This was really an oddity for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
The joy was short lived as the 45 minute ride home took 2and1/2 hours in that great Friday traffic (non rush hour).
Playing 600 rounds per hour (each round has 3 hands), he'd have played 600*3*1.35 hands = 2250 hands. You get a 4oak every 425'ish hands. His expectation was 5 4oaks, he got 6. If you play enough, you'll see some weird things happen. Hitting 2 royals in 2k hands is obviously not normal, but it isn't something unbelievable. A few weeks ago I was playing Super Hand (you get dealt 3 hands, and it automatically gives you the best starting hand). I hit 2 RF's within 3 or 4 rounds (I think it was 4). I figure 4 rounds on that game is similar to 36 single-hand plays (actually, fewer than 36).
Rs--1.35??
I meant 1.25, not 1.35.
Haven't hit too many but, I hit this a few months ago. I was playing on a day off from work screwing around in the pit. I got down about 700 and decided to play some slots. I proceeded to the high limit room at our Casino and caught lightning on a monopoly machine. Won back more than the 700 then hit this. Hasn't happened since.
Nice.
What's 3x3x3x pay?
That's the big one 20k.
you were only betting one coin on a 5 line machine ? thats bold.. my luck all the hits would be on the other lines..
Yep. The sevens count no matter where they hit so the bonus isn't that hard to hit. You are right about the line hit though. Very unusual. I was going up and down on the bet.
Outstanding win, Jaysunjm!
There is one Boardwalk Sevens slot at $5 denomination at Morongo High Limit and a half dozen of them at Pechanga at $1 denomination on the main floor, the two local Southern California casinos I go to.
For the 3x 3x 3x payout:
If you bet 1 to 4 lines, it is a 20000 for 1 payout instead of $20,000. Thus in your case it is actually $100,000 at $5 denomination.
If you bet all five lines, you will win the state wide area progressive jackpot.
You might want to reconsider that statement. You are thinking that these slots have physical reels when in reality they don't. While there might be, for example, 36 symbols or stop positions on the physical reels, the RNG and the program have in fact millions of stop positions, and getting three 7s in any position is not so simple, nor is this jackpot easy to hit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaysunjm
Congratulations because you got very lucky!!!
Alpax are you sure it's a state wide area progressive? I think the Morongo progressives are tied into an Indian casino progressive which covers multiple states.Quote:
Originally Posted by alpax
I forgot about that, you are correct Alan. It is Nevada that has its own statewide progressive.
The progressive in itself is much more incentive to play all 5 lines although the chances are slim.
As far as I can tell my machine isn't connected to a progressive jackpot. And I certainly wasn't saying it's easy to hit a jackpot like the one I did. I was just saying playing only 1 credit the golden 7's count on any line. That makes it easier to get the bonus game. Rather than having the gold 7's be on the 1 payline.
Recently Cindy & I decided to go up to SF to see the Red Sox play 2 games at AT&T Park this week, so we put our travel plans to S. Dakota and other destinations on hold until next week. Good move.
We drove straight up there, but on the way back (yesterday) I booked a night at South Point to get a break and some rest before going back to Az. Good idea.
We went to dinner at their surprisingly good Mexican restaurant--Baja Miguels--which I of course haven't been to yet. It seems they've opened in the past 5 years, and I don't believe I've been in the casino during that time. Afterwards, Cindy wanted to get upstairs to refresh and sleep, so I decided to play some and sit at the far right machine at the bar at the base of the mezzanine stairway (Miguels is on the 2nd floor there) nearby the main casino floor restaurants, to play some ARTT 25c thru $2 (remember I said $2 was my limit from now on?). And because I play very seldom these days--once every 3 months, if that) I had no win limit, and my loss limit was the amount of cash left in my wallet (about $1600). The other limiter was time--I did not want to play more than 2 hours. But a machine in a hot cycle will--and should--change that when there's no win limit.
I began right around 6:30. At 7pm I hit a sequential Royal For $8000 on DDBP. drawing the 10 in spot #1. It took a long 20 minutes to get paid. No tip of course. About 9pm I hit another 1-card draw for a royal, again in spades. Same game within the ARTT strategy--$2 DDBP (9/6 version for all you Advantage-Playing teeny weeny % worriers out there). The bartender and a lot of patrons began taking notice as they watched the two handpays. I watched the Sharks beat down the Penguins. Again no tip, but the pay came within 10 minutes.
I think less than 20 minutes later on my 3rd game of ARTT the same game ($2 DDBP) served up four Aces with a 4 kicker for $4000 more. Now people in the crowd started coming over to chat some. Remember, I'm not simply playing $2 DDBP only. I'm playing 25c thru $2 BP first, then I go onto $2 DDBP if I fail to attain at least an overall $100 profit in the BP portion of the strategy. This time the handpay took a bit longer, because a suit came out to talk to me. I was going to quit right then and there, but he "motivated" me to play one more ARTT session. And of course, this one ended with $2 Royal #3 for the evening. This time I chose to switch over to DBP (9/7/5), but it didn't matter. Same result.
After the final handpay, I talked with some others who had a bunch of comments and questions. No one here will like this, but 2 of them came by and said I had to be the greatest vp player of all time. I told them I was. One of them asked me if I was Dancer. When I told him who I was he said he was only joking.
I'm not endorsing playing DDBP UNLESS it's the only game available, because SDBP and TBP+ are far superior games. Oh I almost forgot: I can thank my good friend Spock for all this. I actually followed thru on his post about the free night at SP, since I get so few offers from LV any more due to a lack of play for the better part of 5 years. (Dan, fear not--they did not charge me the $14 resort fee with the comp). My final tally was a net profit of over $25,000. The wins totally destroyed my reasoning for not playing higher than $2 any more. But I should have known better. After all, I AM the best player ever.
This all happened within a span of about 3.5 to 4 hours. I can see the time stamps on my pictures WHICH I TOOK WITH AN HTC ONE AND NOT MY OLD DIGITAL CAMERA this time, but I'm sure the whiners will still try to make it look like this never happened. Either way, it was a great night after a great trip to SF for 4 days.
Nice. Artt my favorite game. Congrats.
Congratulations Rob. But no special plays.
Special plays are used much less often than optimal plays because the majority of deals don't require them. The strategy and all that surround it is based on common sense, which in the game of video poker holds more value than using math-only as a way of trying to win.
Where's arci when you need him? Right now I await the jealous fool coming on to claim "it's all lies, just like everything Singer says is lies, cause nobody realistically gets 3 royals on the same single line machine in that amount of time--just like none of his past claims were ever true" or "this is another of his self-portraits, wishing he could be like Dancer".
When you think about it for maybe two seconds, the amount I won last night from a machine that had nothing higher than $2, more probably than not constitutes more net profit than arci has ever lied about for himself. Not a difficult conclusion of course, given the completely embarrassing transcripts the confused idiot got hoodwinked into posting on the internet. :)
Nice hits! Some days, you just can't lose. Been there many times.
jbjb, I'm sure lots of players would quickly chime in that on some days they just can't win also. The difference, I believe, is that over the years I've had an abundance of the winning days, and VERY few of the losing ones. I apparently just have not/cannot find the right words to properly & meaningfully explain the how and the why of this "aberration" to the general doubting public. And when I think about that happening, I just take a few looks at the piles of cash I have laying around, and the frustration passes.
I've seen the videos with you and Alan....apparently you don't spend your "piles of cash" on your wardrobe....I've seen several skid row winos with nicer clothes on lol
Apparently "Bill", this is a hard pill for you to swallow. And I like it.
Congrats.
Considering I have only hit 2 single line royals in my life, hitting 3 in a few hours seems almost impossible.
I think it depends on how much video poker you play. I've seen players at Rincon hit two royals within fifteen minutes. I also recall a lady at Morongo years ago who hit two royals just a couple of hands apart on two different machines. She was waiting for the pay on the first machine and hit the second.Quote:
Originally Posted by ddb1
If you play enough it happens.
I've had back-to-back royals on a quarter machine in my AP days. Nothing like this though. Did anyone notice the sequential? I haven't seen one of those in person in over 20 years when I hit one in Laughlin.
What,you like things that are difficult to swallow?...I'm not into that but I'll see if I know anyone that can accommodate you...You will have to clean yourself up and certainly wear some decent clothesQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
My favorite story about the clothes people wear at casinos:Quote:
Originally Posted by BiloxiBill
I just walked up to a craps table at Caesars and an old, poor-looking, homeless-type guy is standing next to the dealer. He was wearing an old, dirty trench coat. He hadn't shaved in a couple of days. He was certainly disheveled. And he had a black ($100) chip on the passline. The shooter throws a come-out roll. I don't remember if it was a five or a six, but the old, poor-looking man, reached into his pocket and pulled out black chips for full odds and placed some more box numbers with black chips. And a come bet with a black chip. And on the next number he placed full odds with black chips. Need I continue? I think you get the point.
Bill's struggling with all this, so here's more. We rented an Avis intermediate car for the SF trip because you don't take a Hellcat thru the streets of San Francisco. But when we got to the counter all they had was a Kia Rio. Turned out to be the perfect car for all the jagged & bumpy streets and all the bridges with expansion joints etc. However "Bill", this little car just barely fit the $25,000+ in cash I took from the SP machine.
nice hits Rob
I believe you're being honest and thanks. Someone like spock's probably pulled the time stamps off of my pictures and is banging his head against the wall. And you KNOW arci's speechless while he tries to come up with something negative about this. Eddie is pretending it didn't happen, and this whole episode likely put poor mickey into TILT MODE as he continues to pretend those Laughlin 25c flush attack machines REALLY put out. But the biggest MIA is Dan. After all the effort I put in to let a load off his mind by explaining how there is no $14 resort fee on the SP promotional free night---you'd think it would be the biggest day of the year for him....Quote:
Originally Posted by regnis
Recap -
Rob Singer posts proof of an INCREDIBLE session: 3 single-line royals in less than 1500 hands.
Forum be like, oh that happens to me all the time, nbd.
Congratulations Rob :D
When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."
Sherlock Holmes
One can relate this quote to Rob's summary any way one feels appropriate, depending on what one feels is impossible versus improbable.
I mention, in passing, that I once hit three single line royals in a few hundred hands in one day. It was a sad, funny story highlighting my stupidity that I related elsewhere and will not repeat. Thus, what Rob said he did is certainly possible.
If I recall, one of those royals, redietz, was played with one coin in?
People get lucky. Big multiple wins happen. Just this morning Jason and I were talking again about big wins in short periods of time. I asked him for his 5 W2Gs showing the single line $4,000 royals he hit in 24 hours at Caesars and Gold Strike. When he digs them out I am going to post photos. I hope someone will share them over at the WOV forum.
LOL -- two of them, Alan. It hurts me to repeat the story, but the first and third. I was killing time earning promos with my card in at the Palms (waiting for the book to open) and at Palace Station waiting for the Jumbo Jackpot to hit. Hard to hit three royals and walk away thinking it was a cursed day, but I managed to do it.
On a three way dollar game on Super Pay, I was leaving and had only 11 dollars left on the game. Yes--I could have added 7 dollars for a full spin. This game doesn't let you play 1 or 2 lines at full pay. It makes you go 3 lines at whatever coin in that results. But I didn't. I got three to a royal and drew the royal on 2 lines. And this is when I was on a 15 year royal drought so I figured I'd never get one again.
My only 1 credit royal came from running $5 free play through at Riviera a bunch of years ago.
I told the story before about how I was at Caesars and a lady had only one quarter left playing the 25-cent Wheel of Fortune progressive. She got all three symbols for a $10,000 win and had she had three quarters played it would have been, if I recall, about two million dollars. She cried uncontrollably while many of us standing around said that had she taken the time to change a dollar bill or put a dollar bill into the machine to play three credits she would have won zip.
Edited to add: By the way remember the Majestic Lions 2-million+ progressive at MGM Grand? It took years for the progressive to be hit on the single machine. But actually several players lined up all the lions but had only one dollar played and not three.
The clowns at WoV wouldn't believe that even if Jason had a certified WoV member with him taking videos. Multiple royals like that isn't something that's theoretically possible on -EV machines to those people, and the fact that it's real only frustrates them further into disallowing the event from entering into the equation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
After my 2nd royal last Thurs. night two couples came up to me. One said they play four times a week on nickels, and they haven't ever seen a royal in 26 years. The other couple told me they play every day and hit one royal between them in 16 years. When my 3rd royal came they got up and walked out disgusted while I was getting paid.
BTW I left zero in tips. How much would you socialists have left the hand payers on $28,000 in jackpots if it were you?
My question is how people play this so long and often and not see a royal? Do they miss the two and three to a royal hands draws?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Gamblers love to sensationalize their results. Nobody actually plays for decades without seeing a royal.Quote:
Originally Posted by slingshot
That's hard for me to answer because I never would have played those games. Bob Dancer recently mentioned tip amounts ("Gambling With an Edge," April 19th, Jimmy Jazz). He recalled playing a double royal promo in Vicksburg. The game was 25-cent, 100-play NSUD -- so he had a strong edge mathematically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Rob, I know you disagree with the premise, but for others, my question: If I tip $10 on a $2000 royal, will the casino employees love me? I find that hard to believe.Quote:
We did make sure that we tipped a little bit generously -- a $10 tip on a 2000 royal was too big percentage-wise, but it does get their attention, and so if you hit another one, they come quickly when they see your light on. So overall, it's a smart investment.
Rob, did the WoV people believe you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
My last 4 royals were spread out over about 3 weeks, but less than 24 hours total playing time. I'd believe it.
I'm banned from posting there because I made huge fools of them time and again. Wizard never said a thing until the day came where I made a fool out of him.
BTW, Gamblers Bookshop contacted me yesterday about coming back for a new podcast. I certainly have a whole lotta new material to discuss since my last one close to 8 years ago. :)
I was thinking the same thing... I had 45 royals last year, not counting any joker / deuces wild.. but I only play multi-line machines.. usually 10 hands..
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Originally Posted by slingshot
A better question would be does anyone believe this clown other than Alan?....Putz's like this are a dime a dozenQuote:
Originally Posted by redietz
No surprise you left nothing in tips....obviously by the way you dress,you have no class....your personal hygiene appears to lack also...but I only saw one video :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
A dime a dozen? You mean there are others like Rob Singer????Quote:
Originally Posted by BiloxiBill
Just hit this at Caesars. First royal this year, second dealt royal lifetime.
Dannyj great hit. I love to see dealt royals. For something that happens 1/649740 hands, they seem to happen a lot!
Never had one. That is beautiful!!!.
That is awesome.
If l recall Chimp had a triple dealt royal with some multiplier. She posted the photo.
Congrats Dannyj!
Yes, I had a triple dealt with a 3x multiplier at Rincon last year.
Shockingly nice. Negative EV games just aren't suppose to pay out like that. Just ask the "AP experts" here.
Yep. And I'm 100% certain he's also thousands of dollars in the hole lifetime despite this dealt royal, just like the former host here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Absolutely. I just want all of my ex wives to know I never had a profit playing video poker or any casino game. Never.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb