When Weakness Prevails, Show Them The Meaning of Strength

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I've never made a Gay slur. There is no need for it. Gay is not a substitute term for disagreeing with a post.

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That's your opinion/personal preference and I can respect that, however you are no better or worse of a person for having your own personal values, no matter how much you believe yourself to be.

I heard many times how unintelligent people use curse words, I heard many times how you should never trust a guy who never curses. Both are completely idiotic statements.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Besides donkeys bet the horn. It's a bad bet.

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Hop Bets are way more fun.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Rob texted me back. I won't reveal what he told me, but I said to him "you created your own mess."

It would be improper of me to post his text and I won't. Don't ask me to.

I tried to be independent.

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Don’t share it.

We don’t want to see whatever nonsense he told you.

MaxPen is correct, Rob should be done here now. How many times are you going to allow this shit. But we all know Dan Druff isn't going to do that. He apparently like this crap. Even when it is he who gets played by Singer, causing Druff to delay his trip home. I don't understand THAT mentality....but whatever. Lots of things in the world I don't "get" or understand.

What I do know is Rob Singer is now dead to me. (alan has turned me on to this dead to me thing :D).

There never really was a "Rob Singer" anyway. It is a made up character by a degenerate lifelong losing gambler named Robert Argentino, who desperately wants to be things he isn't and can't, a winning player, James Bond, hung. But he is none of those. Because he is a known public figure, anyone can look stuff up about Argentino and none of it matches the claims of this Rob Singer "character". Even down to his education. He once listed two colleges he attended. One has absolutely no record of anyone with his name. The other wouldn't disclose if they did. (different policies I guess).

You have the real Rob Argentino: consisting of bankruptcies, judgements against for not paying rent, a food stamp abuse from when he lived in a trailer park in Pahrump (since removed). By the way that time he lived in Pahrump in a trailer park IN A WINNEBAGO, not a Newell, was at the end of the supposed 5 year, 2.9 million dollar double up bug run. :rolleyes: The guy has no real estate ever listed in his name. Several websites estimate his wealth as below 50k, which is the lowest category. AND he lives off/with his kids, rotating between children's home.

And the not real Rob Singer character, worked as top secret James Bond-ish CIA agent, with relatives in every branch of government. who Played a progressive betting system and won hundreds of thousands over 4 years, discovered and played the double-up bug winning 2.9 million prior to Kane/Nestor who got caught. And now has hit numerous 6 figure jackpots and now a 7 figure 1.5 million jackpot.

Enough is enough. I done with him and his fantasy alternative alter-ego and made up claims.

You can even see where the ideas for this BS came from.

In 2013 on this very forum in a discussion about Kane/Nester and the double up bug which was in the news at the time, Rob Singer posted that what Kane and Nester did was illegal and they should go to jail. 5 years later, he stole their story for his own saying he did that before they did.

2 years ago when Mdawg emerged on the scene at WoV, posting pictures of stacks of cash (real in his case), Singer called him a fake and said anyone posting pictures of cash, chips and jewelry was a fake. 2 years later, Singer is buying fake "prop" cash off of Amazon to post.

So even the ideas for his scams aren't original. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

MaxPen is correct, Rob should be done here now. How many times are you going to allow this shit. But we all know Dan Druff isn't going to do that. He apparently like this crap. Even when it is he who gets played by Singer, causing Druff to delay his trip home. I don't understand THAT mentality....but whatever. Lots of things in the world I don't "get" or understand.

What I do know is Rob Singer is now dead to me. (alan has turned me on to this dead to me thing :D).

There never really was a "Rob Singer" anyway. It is a made up character by a degenerate lifelong losing gambler named Robert Argentino, who desperately wants to be things he isn't and can't, a winning player, James Bond, hung. But he is none of those. Because he is a known public figure, anyone can look stuff up about Argentino and none of it matches the claims of this Rob Singer "character". Even down to his education. He once listed two colleges he attended. One has absolutely no record of anyone with his name. The other wouldn't disclose if they did. (different policies I guess).

You have the real Rob Argentino: consisting of bankruptcies, judgements against for not paying rent, a food stamp abuse from when he lived in a trailer park in Pahrump (since removed). By the way that time he lived in Pahrump in a trailer park IN A WINNEBAGO, not a Newell, was at the end of the supposed 5 year, 2.9 million dollar double up bug run. :rolleyes: The guy has no real estate ever listed in his name. Several websites estimate his wealth as below 50k, which is the lowest category. AND he lives off/with his kids, rotating between children's home.

And the not real Rob Singer character, worked as top secret James Bond-ish CIA agent, with relatives in every branch of government. who Played a progressive betting system and won hundreds of thousands over 4 years, discovered and played the double-up bug winning 2.9 million prior to Kane/Nestor who got caught. And now has hit numerous 6 figure jackpots and now a 7 figure 1.5 million jackpot.

Enough is enough. I done with him and his fantasy alternative alter-ego and made up claims.

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Says the guy who is not real does not play blackjack and prays on gay / bi curious married men so he can extort

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Originally Posted by jdaewoo

Mickey is making shit up for who knows what reason and coach cunt is just a cunt.

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Please quote the shit you think I made up or STFU.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

I have two cell phone numbers for Rob. I just called both and left voicemail messages. One phone is an Arizona number and one phone is a South Dakota number.

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He changed his numbers a couple of months ago, so double check that they're current.

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Don't you guys ever get tired of spewing bullshit?

I just checked my phone. Rob and I have been in phone contact for over 3 years. I also checked my text messages. His first text to me was dated May 29, 2019. His last text to me was today, June 16, 2022.

The phone number has been the same all this time. The area code is from Phoenix.

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Originally Posted by redietz

See, this is what probability is about. Instead of going through life in statistical LaLa Land, you evaluate things based on probability.

Do I have to give the Cliff's Notes? Well, since you asked.

Rob says an editor at GT is going to bring him back on board to write some articles. Publisher Eileen Di Rocco gets an email and responds that the editor hasn't worked for GT in three years.

Rob says he's helming a video poker panel at G2E. There is no panel. Rob says the panel was held as a private party in his suite.

Rob owns a Newell. No pics to match. He's owned this thing for years, but he has no pics of him or family members in the Newell. He's camera shy?

Rob has 700K stashed with Nersesian. LOL. Not even in pesos.

Rob was ready to meet MaxPen while lugging 700K or 100K or something. He arrives at South Point and leaves an hour and a half before the meet-up.

Rob was going to prove his 1.5 mil win to Dan Druff. At this point, and I kid you not, I was hoping he had won something he could show. Otherwise the story is sad and poignant -- not in a good way, and it's no fun. Well, the story is no fun.

What I just listed are facts. Facts that need to be mentioned when predicting Rob's behavior.

See, probability is when you tally those things up, you make probabilistic evaluations. Did Rob win a $1.5 jackpot? Would Rob have taken no good pics of his 1.5 mil win? Would he fail to show up for confirming meetings?

And, although I didn't think it at first, I believe Dan was likely right that Rob had somebody at a property ready to go to bat for him. That's why the NDA schtick. Trying to seal that person off from any leakage and consequences. I really did not think that was part of the formula, but Dan probably got it right and I was wrong.

Just sad. If I don't appreciate my limitations as I age, that could be me in 10 years.

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You forgot to evaluate the probability that Rob could get you and your friends to waste thousands of man hours of your time on something that, whether his claims are true or not, has no bearing on your lives.

Probability is a measure between 0 and 1. So we can't say Rob had a 100% chance of getting you guys to do that. But here's a good estimation of the probability:

99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 999999999%

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Axel I'm sure you've seen the private gaming rooms at Certain casinos. I've been in some of the private Gaming rooms at Caesars -- the ones with a private kitchen, and a massage table, shower and private bath. They roll in roulette tables, craps tables, blackjack tables.

Yeah if someone wanted exercise equipment I'd bet they could bring that in too from the hotel's spa.

I'm not suggesting that's what happened with Singer but we know anything could happen for the right amount of money.

I dont see exercise equipment in the photo but maybe there was? WTF is the difference?

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You realize the guy you are defending shit all over you and won't even take your call. How embarrassing.

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How do you know Rob is in a position to take a call, poser pro? I get calls all the time I can't immediately answer.

Pan Am air crash of 9 Jul 1982. The jet was forced down by a microburst shortly after takeoff. All on board, 145, were killed, plus 8 people on the ground.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

MaxPen is correct, Rob should be done here now. How many times are you going to allow this shit. But we all know Dan Druff isn't going to do that. He apparently like this crap. Even when it is he who gets played by Singer, causing Druff to delay his trip home. I don't understand THAT mentality....but whatever. Lots of things in the world I don't "get" or understand.

What I do know is Rob Singer is now dead to me. (alan has turned me on to this dead to me thing :D).

There never really was a "Rob Singer" anyway. It is a made up character by a degenerate lifelong losing gambler named Robert Argentino, who desperately wants to be things he isn't and can't, a winning player, James Bond, hung. But he is none of those. Because he is a known public figure, anyone can look stuff up about Argentino and none of it matches the claims of this Rob Singer "character". Even down to his education. He once listed two colleges he attended. One has absolutely no record of anyone with his name. The other wouldn't disclose if they did. (different policies I guess).

You have the real Rob Argentino: consisting of bankruptcies, judgements against for not paying rent, a food stamp abuse from when he lived in a trailer park in Pahrump (since removed). By the way that time he lived in Pahrump in a trailer park IN A WINNEBAGO, not a Newell, was at the end of the supposed 5 year, 2.9 million dollar double up bug run. :rolleyes: The guy has no real estate ever listed in his name. Several websites estimate his wealth as below 50k, which is the lowest category. AND he lives off/with his kids, rotating between children's home.

And the not real Rob Singer character, worked as top secret James Bond-ish CIA agent, with relatives in every branch of government. who Played a progressive betting system and won hundreds of thousands over 4 years, discovered and played the double-up bug winning 2.9 million prior to Kane/Nestor who got caught. And now has hit numerous 6 figure jackpots and now a 7 figure 1.5 million jackpot.

Enough is enough. I done with him and his fantasy alternative alter-ego and made up claims.

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So let’s hear about your assets Jason what do you own ?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I texted Rob 25 minutes ago. No response. I was very clear that I wouldn't be available until 7 to talk to him. I texted him at 7:02.

We will see if he responds, or if we get excuses later as to why he's not answering. It's possible he doesn't want to do this anymore, because his plan (perhaps to have some employee claim they saw him hit the jackpot) won't work if I get to direct the process.

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Dan, when you texted Rob at 7:02pm was this your first direct attempt to confirm or set up the actual meeting with Rob or did you confirm the meeting earlier?

Or did you decline to meet with Rob unless he would agree to your stipulations?

You said you couldn't speak with Rob before 7pm but were you able to confirm the meeting with Rob earlier.

It seems that hours passed between Robs offer to show you proof at the actual casino and 7pm when you said you actually texted Rob.

Is it possible that there was a miscommunication between you two and in all the cross talk on the forum no one said here's the time and place we will meet?

I see your posts about your conditions and the cell phone tower but I never read that you said yes to meeting.

Here's Robs post more than 7 hours before your text at 7:02pm:

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Here's the solution -- Dan says he's in LV right now. So am I, until tonight at 11 when we leave for Maine.

I'll meet him at the casino where I hit this, and they'll confirm the whole ball of wax as they say,which will put an end to you people all making yourselves continuing to look foolish over all the stupid excuses posted of why you have such a driving need to say everything's "fake" including the $120,000 in REAL money I always keep in the bottom of my safe. You DO realize how much you're all embarrassing yourselves over that, correct? I'll be happy to keep reminding you of it.

I'm available at 7pm-10pm. Dan has my number, but if he no longer has it he can let me know by contacting me at GVR. The one stipulation: he has to promise not to publicly identify the name of the casino, as well as agree to anything else the hi -limit room may ask him to agree not to divulge. And no, my wife will NOT be "angry" if I left for 3 hours. She knows what's going on, and she is laughing at every one of you. She's also come up with a pretty good idea that I'm contemplating.

I can already hear it---"Rob probably went into some casino and paid someone to support his claim!" I expect Dan would be able to tell if that's the case.

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Fill me in on what I'm missing. Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Seedvalue

So let’s hear about your assets Jason what do you own ?

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I own nothing and I'm happy!

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I texted Rob 25 minutes ago. No response. I was very clear that I wouldn't be available until 7 to talk to him. I texted him at 7:02.

We will see if he responds, or if we get excuses later as to why he's not answering. It's possible he doesn't want to do this anymore, because his plan (perhaps to have some employee claim they saw him hit the jackpot) won't work if I get to direct the process.

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Dan, when you texted Rob at 7:02pm was this your first direct attempt to confirm or set up the actual meeting with Rob or did you confirm the meeting earlier?

Or did you decline to meet with Rob unless he would agree to your stipulations?

You said you couldn't speak with Rob before 7pm but were you able to confirm the meeting with Rob earlier.

It seems that hours passed between Robs offer to show you proof at the actual casino and 7pm when you said you actually texted Rob.

Is it possible that there was a miscommunication between you two and in all the cross talk on the forum no one said here's the time and place we will meet?

I see your posts about your conditions and the cell phone tower but I never read that you said yes to meeting.

Here's Robs post more than 7 hours before your text at 7:02pm:

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Here's the solution -- Dan says he's in LV right now. So am I, until tonight at 11 when we leave for Maine.

I'll meet him at the casino where I hit this, and they'll confirm the whole ball of wax as they say,which will put an end to you people all making yourselves continuing to look foolish over all the stupid excuses posted of why you have such a driving need to say everything's "fake" including the $120,000 in REAL money I always keep in the bottom of my safe. You DO realize how much you're all embarrassing yourselves over that, correct? I'll be happy to keep reminding you of it.

I'm available at 7pm-10pm. Dan has my number, but if he no longer has it he can let me know by contacting me at GVR. The one stipulation: he has to promise not to publicly identify the name of the casino, as well as agree to anything else the hi -limit room may ask him to agree not to divulge. And no, my wife will NOT be "angry" if I left for 3 hours. She knows what's going on, and she is laughing at every one of you. She's also come up with a pretty good idea that I'm contemplating.

I can already hear it---"Rob probably went into some casino and paid someone to support his claim!" I expect Dan would be able to tell if that's the case.

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Fill me in on what I'm missing. Thanks.

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Shut the fuck up loser.

Hopefully Rob is safe after leaving Vegas at 11PM to start the drive across the country to Maine without sleep.

Heading into the Vegas desert toward Utah at his age that late after dealing with this situation all day doesn’t seem like the most prudent decision.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Axel: I DONT KNOW IF ROB HIT IT.

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Deep Thoughts...

Today I found out that the odds to bowl a 300 game with an 8 pound ball is .00000002
That's pretty close to 18 Elevens in a row isn't it?
Maybe not... what is that... 50 Million to 1?
Fuck... Math is Hard.
I wonder if Big Foot is real because I never seen him but I never seen anyone disprove that Big Foot isn't real and a lot of people say he is real.
So it seems that the 1.5 Million Dollar Jackpot is like believing in God.
You have to have faith.
Proof not allowed.

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Monet makes key points. It's about faith. And the "I have no reason to disbelieve" are religious.

For example, I can provide at least as much proof that I have dated Lady GaGa and Elizabeth Hurley (who just turned 57) as Rob hitting the jackpot. I can provide photos (without me in the pic), documents that appear to have their signature (typed love letters with their signature), ringtones with their voices, personal happy birthday videos (at least for Hurley), and stuff like that.

Can anyone prove I haven't dated them? Nobody on this forum, anyway.

It's about probabilities. Everything is.

Next I need to set up meetings with MaxPen and Todd so they can meet my ex-girlfriends. Of course, I'll duck and weave around those meetings. I actually have a non-zero shot of somehow pulling this off with GaGa since a friend of mine who helms a band knows her old manager from her New York days.

The Church of Bob is open for business.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Rob texted me back. I won't reveal what he told me, but I said to him "you created your own mess."

It would be improper of me to post his text and I won't. Don't ask me to.

I tried to be independent.

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Don’t share it.

We don’t want to see whatever nonsense he told you.

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Exactly. May as well type The Humpty Dumpty rhyme.

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Originally Posted by redietz

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I have two cell phone numbers for Rob. I just called both and left voicemail messages. One phone is an Arizona number and one phone is a South Dakota number.

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He changed his numbers a couple of months ago, so double check that they're current.

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Don't you guys ever get tired of spewing bullshit?

I just checked my phone. Rob and I have been in phone contact for over 3 years. I also checked my text messages. His first text to me was dated May 29, 2019. His last text to me was today, June 16, 2022.

The phone number has been the same all this time. The area code is from Phoenix.

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Rob sent a series of anonymous texts to me weeks ago. I was very disappointed to discover it was Rob (how banal). The number matched one of his numbers.

He has two Phoenix area numbers, plus the SD number, plus a VoIP number.

So mickey, you want me to post those text messages? See, I don't even bother with some of the Rob crap. He's so transparent, why give the continual bullshit oxygen?

Let me know if I should post them, mickey. Your call. Me being so obsessed and all, I hadn't bothered to this point.

So .00000002 converts to 1 in 50,000,000

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Originally Posted by Seedvalue

So let’s hear about your assets Jason what do you own ?

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I own nothing and I'm happy!

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You got it backwards, monet. I own happy and I'm nothing.

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Hopefully Rob is safe after leaving Vegas at 11PM to start the drive across the country to Maine without sleep.

Heading into the Vegas desert toward Utah at his age that late after dealing with this situation all day doesn’t seem like the most prudent decision.

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Rob didnt leave Vegas till about 4am. He said he slept after waiting for hours to find out if Dan was going to show up. By 7pm (actually by 5pm) Rob says he didnt know if Dan was showing up. That's more than 5 hours after Rob posted his "invite" on the forum.

Because of all the cross talk it wouldn't surprise me that Dan and Rob just "forgot" to make a commitment.

This forum isnt known for clear communications. Had the Paris Peace Talks been run on this forum we'd still be fighting the Vietnam War.

Wow.

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Originally Posted by The Boz

Hopefully Rob is safe after leaving Vegas at 11PM to start the drive across the country to Maine without sleep.

Heading into the Vegas desert toward Utah at his age that late after dealing with this situation all day doesn’t seem like the most prudent decision.

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Rob didnt leave Vegas till about 4am. He said he slept after waiting for hours to find out if Dan was going to show up. By 7pm (actually by 5pm) Rob says he didnt know if Dan was showing up. That's more than 5 hours after Rob posted his "invite" on the forum.

Because of all the cross talk it wouldn't surprise me that Dan and Rob just "forgot" to make a commitment.

This forum isnt known for clear communications. Had the Paris Peace Talks been run on this forum we'd still be fighting the Vietnam War.

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The above is the most pathetic thing I have ever seen on this forum. And that is really saying something.

It's a big joke, of course. That's what Todd wants, that's what he gets.

Tell you boys what. I have some free time before football begins. I've been all across this great country multiple times, but I have never been to South Dakota. Sounds like Road Trip time.

Tell Rob I will do a video special, "In Search of the $1.5 Million Winner." I will get a video dude to come with me. We will go to wherever Rob is so he can present his evidence of having won the money. Of course, he will have to mention the things all journalists ask -- when, where, who. Those are basic questions. The special will also feature his family, because who would do a show about a $1.5 million winner and not interview family members? Those are journalism basics. As Alan knows, a story without those is bullshit.

I can make it to anywhere. If planes don't fly there, I have 35,000 in Amtrak miles. Point out a location and a date. Alan, as a big name journalist, is invited. You gotta pay your own way, though.

As Ed Sullivan used to say, "Welcome to the big sheeooowww."

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I can make it to anywhere. If planes don't fly there, I have 35,000 in Amtrak miles.

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Isn't that a kick in the groin?
Amtrak been bankrupt since forever but our tax dollars keep it alive.
And they charge you double or triple compared to flying.
So we all actually own Amtrak but we have to pay them to use our train???
Just like the asphalt.
Where are my Fucking Dividends??

Anyways, I'm like Rob... I drive.
But I think its over for me now.
Just stay in Vegas till all the water dries up.
I'm positive my Chink Chang Chong Wife will agree to move from this God Forsaken Desert once the water dries up!
That's when I buy the Winnebago.

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I can make it to anywhere. If planes don't fly there, I have 35,000 in Amtrak miles.

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Isn't that a kick in the groin?
Amtrak been bankrupt since forever but our tax dollars keep it alive.
And they charge you double or triple compared to flying.
So we all actually own Amtrak but we have to pay them to use our train???
Just like the asphalt.
Where are my Fucking Dividends??

Anyways, I'm like Rob... I drive.
But I think its over for me now.
Just stay in Vegas till all the water dries up.
I'm positive my Chink Chang Chong Wife will agree to move from this God Forsaken Desert once the water dries up!
That's when I buy the Winnebago.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIrJEd9cH9k

I don't know what the fuck this shit is, but don't forget suicide is always an option.

Rob was never planning to meet me -- or at least he wasn't once it became clear that I would be directing the verification process.

Here was my post yesterday at around noon, giving both my terms AND the warning that I wouldn't be available to communicate again until 7pm.

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You can text me at (775) 372-8355. I could probably dig up your number but I don't feel like it.

I will agree to the following:

1) I will keep all details confidential. I will not reveal the name of the casino or any other info which hasn't been made public yet. I will, of course, state my opinion as to whether or not the jackpot was real (and yours), and give my reason why.

2) I will need to be able to verify this in my own way, which I won't disclose beforehand. If the plan is to approach Joe the Casino Host and ask, "Did Rob really hit a $1.5 million UX jackpot last month?", that's not going to do it for me. I'm very well aware that you know a lot of people in Vegas, so I can't simply take someone's word that you hit it.

3) You will agree beforehand that you will cooperate in allowing me to verify this. Again, I will need to be the one directing the verification process, not you.

4) You will need to send me photographic proof that you're currently in Vegas before I go anywhere. I will specify at the time what proof you need to give (it will be a picture you text me, taken on the spot).

I won't be available to talk or text prior to 7pm today. However, feel free to text me at the above number, and I will get back to you around 7, if you're serious about this.

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Notice the bolded part at the end. It was very clear to Rob (who posted after the above, so he clearly read it) that I was unavailable to talk or text until 7, but I was interested in meeting during his specified 7-11pm timeframe.

I texted Rob at 7:02pm. He did not respond until 8:51pm, and of course blamed the whole thing on me. In the next post, I will show all of the text messages, so you can see how ridiculous this whole thing is.

Texts from me are in blue.

Texts from Rob are in green.


7:02pm
Are you still able to make this meet up?


7:35pm
Hello? I thought you were available at 7pm? Where are you?


8:51pm
You waited until just after 7 to respond when I sent you my text a little after 1. Why?

I'm with my wife and niece. When there was no response by 5, I committed with them.

I'm not gonna say anything or badmouth because you waited 6 hours. I'm not even reading if you apologized for lying about me with this location and vpn stuff that I don't understand or care about. It doesn't matter now.

You'll want to check with [casino redacted].

Please turn off my account. My wife is right when she says I don't need to mess with this nonsense after winning 1.5mil.


9:00pm
Lol

I posted clearly I wouldn't be available to respond until 7. Go back and read

Is the claim now that [redacted] is the casino where you hit the 1.5m? Why not meet me there and prove it, as your final middle finger to your critics?


9:14pm
Again, I planned ahead earlier today because I'm not here alone, and we're here to help our niece out with something. We're leaving at 11 tonight. There's a reason we've been married almost 44 years. And I certainly can't go anywhere now.

This proposed meet wasn't part of the trip. I negotiated with Cindy just to have a window opened from 7-10. I haven't read everything but my wife wanted to plan something with our niece if we weren't set up by 5. Not sure why you were shut down until 7 but it's odd not letting me know via text.

Critics? Don't really care anymore. They want everything about me to be fake.
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9:51pm
I posted that on the site in response to you at about 12

I knew you would back out of this somehow. Not surprised.



9:59pm
That's disingenuous. If I had seen it I'd have told you I needed an answer. And according to you, you still wouldn't have given one.There's others involved in my scheduling. No doubt you could have responded to my 1pm text. Just like the others, you proved you're afraid of meeting up with me too. And nice job on my locations by the way....

This is why you aren't married and have no children of your own: You think it's all about you. Typical California mentality.


10:17pm
I was sleeping so I couldn't respond. I said I couldn't respond until 7. You saw it.

Lol @ my no children. Alan met my son and woman, ask him.


10:31pm
Sleeping? No wonder you lied about where I was. You had no intention or desire to do this.

Why would you ever expect me to be able to be somewhere between 7-10pm when nothing was fully agreed to because of your multiple conditions. And again, you simply disregarded I had family with me.

I'm the one who made what was supposed to be a simple offer of proof. A yes or no proposition. You submitted conditions rather than nail it down before you slept. You clearly didn't want to do it, especially after lying about my location.

Your son? Haven't you heard--mine's fake!

Rob mentioned a specific casino saying I "may want to check" with them, presumably about his jackpot.

I am being nice and not posting the name of that casino, even though he doesn't deserve it.

Clearly this meetup was all bullshit though. Notice he didn't respond to my 7pm text for 2 hours, so this way he had less time in the 7-11pm window to arrange anything. I do think it's possible he had some employee willing to vouch for him at that one casino, but obviously this would have fallen apart under real scrutiny, hence the cancellation. Or it was all bullshit from the start. Who knows?

Either way, I hope Rob got some good workouts in after that $1.5m hit.

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Rob was never planning to meet me -- or at least he wasn't once it became clear that I would be directing the verification process.

Here was my post yesterday at around noon, giving both my terms AND the warning that I wouldn't be available to communicate again until 7pm.

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You can text me at (775) 372-8355. I could probably dig up your number but I don't feel like it.

I will agree to the following:

1) I will keep all details confidential. I will not reveal the name of the casino or any other info which hasn't been made public yet. I will, of course, state my opinion as to whether or not the jackpot was real (and yours), and give my reason why.

2) I will need to be able to verify this in my own way, which I won't disclose beforehand. If the plan is to approach Joe the Casino Host and ask, "Did Rob really hit a $1.5 million UX jackpot last month?", that's not going to do it for me. I'm very well aware that you know a lot of people in Vegas, so I can't simply take someone's word that you hit it.

3) You will agree beforehand that you will cooperate in allowing me to verify this. Again, I will need to be the one directing the verification process, not you.

4) You will need to send me photographic proof that you're currently in Vegas before I go anywhere. I will specify at the time what proof you need to give (it will be a picture you text me, taken on the spot).

I won't be available to talk or text prior to 7pm today. However, feel free to text me at the above number, and I will get back to you around 7, if you're serious about this.

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Notice the bolded part at the end. It was very clear to Rob (who posted after the above, so he clearly read it) that I was unavailable to talk or text until 7, but I was interested in meeting during his specified 7-11pm timeframe.

I texted Rob at 7:02pm. He did not respond until 8:51pm, and of course blamed the whole thing on me. In the next post, I will show all of the text messages, so you can see how ridiculous this whole thing is.

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Here's the problem folks. When you want to prove your case you have to put it all out there.

What we're seeing is everyone playing dodgeball.

Dan... really... instead of posting about cell towers you couldn't have left a message with Rob's voicemail at GVR saying "yes, I can meet you after 7... or 8.... or 9. Where? But I want to find out certain things such as...."

And Rob... you had your chance to meet up with Dan but you couldn't wait past 5pm when you made up your mind he wouldn't show? Rob, didnt you know this was going to come back and hit you in the face?

Dan, didnt you think that here was your chance to solve the $1.5-million question?

Obviously it's more important to argue online than for "either side" to get a resolution.

So now Dan is back in California and Rob is on his way to South Dakota and for the next 6 months we're going to be listening to Redietz, Maxpen, Kewlj, jbjb, jdaewoo and PV repeat the same crap.

This TV show is like The Walking Dead. It just goes on and on... dead.

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Shut the fuck up loser.

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Shut the fuck up, stepandsuckit. Back on your knees to give Keystoner another BJ.

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He changed his numbers a couple of months ago, so double check that they're current.

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Don't you guys ever get tired of spewing bullshit?

I just checked my phone. Rob and I have been in phone contact for over 3 years. I also checked my text messages. His first text to me was dated May 29, 2019. His last text to me was today, June 16, 2022.

The phone number has been the same all this time. The area code is from Phoenix.

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Rob sent a series of anonymous texts to me weeks ago. I was very disappointed to discover it was Rob (how banal). The number matched one of his numbers.

He has two Phoenix area numbers, plus the SD number, plus a VoIP number.

So mickey, you want me to post those text messages? See, I don't even bother with some of the Rob crap. He's so transparent, why give the continual bullshit oxygen?

Let me know if I should post them, mickey. Your call. Me being so obsessed and all, I hadn't bothered to this point.

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You don't bother with Rob crap? Hahahahahahahahahhahaha!!!!!

You spend your every waking hour of everyday on "Rob crap."

Get a life, assclown.

I can't get over how ignorant Alan is.

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I can't get over how ignorant Alan is.

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No. Alan nailed it.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Enough is enough. I done with him and his fantasy alternative alter-ego and made up claims.

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So let’s hear about your assets Jason what do you own ?

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You win Seedvalue. I quit. Another nasty, lowlife asshole trying to harm me by outing me and after he announced that he was going to and Dan Druff does nothing. Tell us again Druff "how you want AP's to feel safe here".

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Alan nailed it.

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Yes he did...Alan makes a great point, Dan dropped the ball.

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Dan... really... instead of posting about cell towers you couldn't have left a message with Rob's voicemail at GVR saying "yes, I can meet you after 7... or 8.... or 9. Where?

Dan, didnt you think that here was your chance to solve the $1.5-million question?

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Dan had time to contact Singer as per the instructions below, but he didn't feel like it.

Instead, he chose to write about gay slurs, cel towers and other speculations.

Here's the sequence...

06-16-2022 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Dan has my number, but if he no longer has it he can let me know by contacting me at GVR.

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06-16-2022 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

You can text me at (775) 372-8355. I could probably dig up your number but I don't feel like it. I won't be available to talk or text prior to 7pm today.

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06-16-2022 12:19 PM

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By the way, it's not a good sign that your cell phone -- which you used to make your last post -- was connected to a tower in Arizona.

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06-16-2022 12:23 PM

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I'm not concerned about gay-related insults between you and Maxpen, because you're both straight (unless there's something one of you isn't telling me).

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06-16-2022 12:30 PM

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It is not at all difficult to find a VPN service with a Las Vegas IP option, especially given weeks or months to do so.

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06-16-2022 12:50 PM

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Dan you have proven to be one of the biggest liars on the forum.
The first thing you need to do is CALL GVR AND ASK TO SPEAK TO ROBERT OR CINDY ARGENTINO. That's it---

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Once again, a debunker with his foot on Singer's throat, refuses to cooperate with a simple straightforward request, and can't close the deal.

coach belly with his usual pro-Singer trolling. You can set your watch to this.

I was very straightforward, as I always am.

I told Rob I would meet him from 7-11pm as he requested. I laid out some terms. I made it very clear that I wouldn't be available to text or talk until 7pm. I kept to my word and texted him at 7:02pm. He didn't answer for 2 hours, and then blamed me for not texting during the afternoon -- which I clearly stated I wouldn't be able to do.

This was his fault, and I'm sure it was intentional.

End of story.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

You win Seedvalue. I quit. Another nasty, lowlife asshole trying to harm me by outing me and after he announced that he was going to and Dan Druff does nothing. Tell us again Druff "how you want AP's to feel safe here".

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Safe World??
You must be intoxicated.
Nothing but Lions and Tigers and Bears... Oh My!

You think you got it bad?
These guys were stepping over dead babies to try and help people get out.
Of course you never see that on any news sources in America.
We can't have people actually caring.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEHXfB8wwGk

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coach belly with his usual pro-Singer trolling. You can set your watch to this.

I was very straightforward, as I always am.

I told Rob I would meet him from 7-11pm as he requested. I laid out some terms. I made it very clear that I wouldn't be available to text or talk until 7pm. I kept to my word and texted him at 7:02pm. He didn't answer for 2 hours, and then blamed me for not texting during the afternoon -- which I clearly stated I wouldn't be able to do.

This was his fault, and I'm sure it was intentional.

End of story.

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Just point out please where you said you would meet Rob and at what time?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

coach belly with his usual pro-Singer trolling. You can set your watch to this.

I was very straightforward, as I always am.

I told Rob I would meet him from 7-11pm as he requested. I laid out some terms. I made it very clear that I wouldn't be available to text or talk until 7pm. I kept to my word and texted him at 7:02pm. He didn't answer for 2 hours, and then blamed me for not texting during the afternoon -- which I clearly stated I wouldn't be able to do.

This was his fault, and I'm sure it was intentional.

End of story.

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Just point out please where you said you would meet Rob and at what time?

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I stated terms and that I would meet him if he agreed to them. I stated I would text him about it at 7pm, which I did.

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Rob and I have been in phone contact for over 3 years.

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We're not talking about obscene phone calls here Mickey.

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So .00000002 converts to 1 in 50,000,000

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And the probability of 18 YOs in a row is 0.000000000000000000000025415281. Which is 1 in 39,346,407,383,809,800,000,000.

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And the probability of 18 YOs in a row is 0.000000000000000000000025415281. Which is 1 in 39,346,407,383,809,800,000,000.

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That is a lot of ZeRoys!

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Lots of benefits, such as the nutty Tablepooey not having a chance to respond, maybe. Frees up cyberspace. A good way to fuck with Dan, too. Ha.

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I guess you weren't quick enough this time you cunt.

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I can't get over how ignorant Alan is.

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The Rob and Alan show: one lies and the other swears to it, both in service of their respective agenda.

Rob's: to disrupt and make himself look good.

Alan's: to disrupt THIS FORUM, not caring whether he looks good.

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Originally Posted by tableplay

And the probability of 18 YOs in a row is 0.000000000000000000000025415281. Which is 1 in 39,346,407,383,809,800,000,000.

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That is a lot of ZeRoys!

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Indeed Monet. Humpty Dumpty has a much better chance of spontaneously getting put back together again by wind and gravity alone.

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coach belly with his usual pro-Singer trolling. You can set your watch to this.

I was very straightforward, as I always am.

I told Rob I would meet him from 7-11pm as he requested. I laid out some terms. I made it very clear that I wouldn't be available to text or talk until 7pm. I kept to my word and texted him at 7:02pm. He didn't answer for 2 hours, and then blamed me for not texting during the afternoon -- which I clearly stated I wouldn't be able to do.

This was his fault, and I'm sure it was intentional.

End of story.

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Just point out please where you said you would meet Rob and at what time?

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I stated terms and that I would meet him if he agreed to them. I stated I would text him about it at 7pm, which I did.

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That's not agreeing to meeting him or setting up a meeting.

So we're back to Square one.

Unfortunately Dan you had the best shot at getting this resolved but you stood your ground and as a result there was no meeting and there is no resolution. You had your chance to get to the casino and press your case. But you didn't take advantage of the chance you had.

Sometimes you have to give a little to get into the game. You stood your ground so no game.

You won your battle, Rob wins his battle, and the war drags on.

Incredible.

Rob said: "Please turn off my account. My wife is right when she says I don't need to mess with this nonsense after winning 1.5mil."

Two take aways:

1} So Dan, how will you act on his request, will you nuke him as a member? and

2) Speaking of "members," I'm surprised his wife found time to come up for air to speak; it's gotta be a tough job polishing 9.5 inches 24/7.

Hook, line, and sinker.........

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So .00000002 converts to 1 in 50,000,000

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And the probability of 18 YOs in a row is 0.000000000000000000000025415281. Which is 1 in 39,346,407,383,809,800,000,000.

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There is a chance of 1 in 39,346,407,383,808,800,000,000 that Alan isn’t a brain dead F’n idiot

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coach belly with his usual pro-Singer trolling. You can set your watch to this.

I was very straightforward, as I always am.

I told Rob I would meet him from 7-11pm as he requested. I laid out some terms. I made it very clear that I wouldn't be available to text or talk until 7pm. I kept to my word and texted him at 7:02pm. He didn't answer for 2 hours, and then blamed me for not texting during the afternoon -- which I clearly stated I wouldn't be able to do.

This was his fault, and I'm sure it was intentional.

End of story.

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Just point out please where you said you would meet Rob and at what time?

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Give it up. You are clearly retarded. No way in hell were you ever worth a shit as a reporter. It is real clear now how you can ride the rail of a craps table for decades. You are incapable of learning. A true retard's retard.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Rob said: "Please turn off my account. My wife is right when she says I don't need to mess with this nonsense after winning 1.5mil."

Two take aways:

1} So Dan, how will you act on his request, will you nuke him as a member? and

2) Speaking of "members," I'm surprised his wife found time to come up for air to speak; it's gotta be a tough job polishing 9.5 inches 24/7.

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Rob has his Lady Boy Man Servant for polishing duties. Gives the other woman a break.

The big question Is do you guys believe Rob’s wife is aware of his online stories?

I say no. I think he is an entirely different character around his wife vs. online.

Because there is no woman on earth that would put up with this for 44 years unless he is rich. Which he is not.

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The big question Is do you guys believe Rob’s wife if aware of his online stories?

I say no. I think he is an entirely different character around his wife vs. online.

Because there is no woman on earth that would put up with this for 44 years unless he is rich. Which he is not.

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He claims yes. I think we will be finding out whether that is true or not.

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Don't you guys ever get tired of spewing bullshit?

I just checked my phone. Rob and I have been in phone contact for over 3 years. I also checked my text messages. His first text to me was dated May 29, 2019. His last text to me was today, June 16, 2022.

The phone number has been the same all this time. The area code is from Phoenix.

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Rob sent a series of anonymous texts to me weeks ago. I was very disappointed to discover it was Rob (how banal). The number matched one of his numbers.

He has two Phoenix area numbers, plus the SD number, plus a VoIP number.

So mickey, you want me to post those text messages? See, I don't even bother with some of the Rob crap. He's so transparent, why give the continual bullshit oxygen?

Let me know if I should post them, mickey. Your call. Me being so obsessed and all, I hadn't bothered to this point.

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You don't bother with Rob crap? Hahahahahahahahahhahaha!!!!!

You spend your every waking hour of everyday on "Rob crap."

Get a life, assclown.

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Mickey, buddy, pal, you didn't answer the question. Do you want me to list the text messages from Rob? Just let me know.

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

The big question Is do you guys believe Rob’s wife if aware of his online stories?

I say no. I think he is an entirely different character around his wife vs. online.

Because there is no woman on earth that would put up with this for 44 years unless he is rich. Which he is not.

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He claims yes. I think we will be finding out whether that is true or not.

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Yes, I suspect we'll be discovering that.

Any bets?

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coach belly with his usual pro-Singer trolling. You can set your watch to this.

I was very straightforward, as I always am.

I told Rob I would meet him from 7-11pm as he requested. I laid out some terms. I made it very clear that I wouldn't be available to text or talk until 7pm. I kept to my word and texted him at 7:02pm. He didn't answer for 2 hours, and then blamed me for not texting during the afternoon -- which I clearly stated I wouldn't be able to do.

This was his fault, and I'm sure it was intentional.

End of story.

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Just point out please where you said you would meet Rob and at what time?

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Give it up. You are clearly retarded. No way in hell were you ever worth a shit as a reporter. It is real clear now how you can ride the rail of a craps table for decades. You are incapable of learning. A true retard's retard.

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Max,

Alan's part of the scam, man. He's not that stupid. He's just getting mileage from his previous reputation. You know, he has gravitas as a reporter, so what he says means something.

It's just an act to make ha/ha at Dan's expense.

The way Rob is with his wife, having to negotiate a time slot and what not, something tells me Rob’s wife is in charge of their finances.

Regardless, I hope you guys get ahold of her and get to the bottom of this.

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Just let me know.

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I'm letting you know...post the text messages.

And post that phantom email that you promised too.

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Originally Posted by redietz

Just let me know.

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I'm letting you know...post the text messages.

And post that phantom email that you promised too.

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The "phantom email, eh?" You gotta be kidding, coach.

When was the last time you actually got anything right?

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The "phantom email, eh?"

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If not, then when are you posting it like you promised?

Seems like phantom text messages, too.

When did you get them, and why haven't you posted them yet?

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When was the last time you actually got anything right?

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I'm always right...thanks for asking.

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Originally Posted by redietz

The "phantom email, eh?"

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If not, then when are you posting it like you promised?

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Oh, coach. I'm so, so sorry. Did I contractually give you a date and time? God, how abusive of me. And here I was, enjoying you being wrong and you still posting about it, like a buffoon, knowing that I could end the suspense at any time. Geez, I apologize.

Now, that date and time. What exactly did I promise?

LOL. Am I getting all Socratic on you, coach? I'm so, so sorry.

That Rob countdown gave me an idea. Maybe I could do a "phantom email reveal" countdown. Maybe for a year from now. I think I'd like a year-long clock ticking down for the coach being wrong.

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Originally Posted by redietz

The "phantom email, eh?"

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If not, then when are you posting it like you promised?

Seems like phantom text messages, too.

When did you get them, and why haven't you posted them yet?

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Originally Posted by redietz

When was the last time you actually got anything right?

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I'm always right...thanks for asking.

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Why would I post text messages from Rob Singer?

Coach, I have a great idea regarding what you referred to as "phantom text messages." Rather than me being a prick to an embarrassed old degenerate on his last gambling legs (Rob, not mickey or Alan), why don't you have Alan or mickey call Rob and ask Rob if he sent me a string of rather stupid text messages while attempting to be anonymous. Then Rob can just verify that he did, and I won't be a prick to an embarrassed old man who is a prick to everyone else.

Deal?

From the discussion, it seems Rob may have his personal number (the number Mickey has) and then at least 1 other phone, possibly even more phones than that, which he uses to be a troll.

As mentioned in a previous discussion, most folks know, burner phones are extremely cheap. Shoot, he may even qualify for an “Obama phone.”




Another possibility is that Rob may be participating in other forums under other user names that have nothing to do with gambling. Maybe Bigfoot forums? UFO forums? If he does participate, I’m sure he shot and killed a Bigfoot or alien, and has it frozen in the freezer in the garage where he stays.

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The big question Is do you guys believe Rob’s wife is aware of his online stories?

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I doubt she cares much about the content of his posts.

The poor girl is probably happy to see him immerse himself online for hours at a time as it gives her a break from his likely relentless power and control games he almost certainly enmeshes her in,

Than again, it is equally plausible that he's a pussy-whipped lap dog who has been labeled a "degenerate gambling p.o.s." by his beloved; he may go online to construct a fantasy personae, something manly, something with "winning," something to give him an inducement to stay alive and to not blow his brains out.



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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

From the discussion, it seems Rob may have his personal number (the number Mickey has) and then at least 1 other phone, possibly even more phones than that, which he uses to be a troll.

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After I received a string of texts from a person who decided to not identify themselves, and to whom I was courteous, I did a number search and it turned out to be Rob. The info I got was that he had at least two Phoenix numbers, maybe three including the landline, plus a South Dakota number, plus a VoIP number for calling via broadband. Lots of options.

LOL. It just occurred to me right now. I'm so damned slow. He was probably hoping I would solicit him to try to "sell picks." That's hilarious. There was zero chance of that happening, but he gave it the old college try. That's pretty funny -- both that he tried it and that it took me this long to realize that was likely the reason.

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Originally Posted by redietz

What exactly did I promise?

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Here is what you promised...

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Originally Posted by redietz

No negotiation. Because if you don't do it, I'll just post the thing

don't make the bet, because I'll post it anyway.

Your choice.

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In consideration of your offer, I'm choosing not to make the bet, and you will post it anyway.

Now go right ahead and do what your promised. What's stopping you?

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Originally Posted by MisterV

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

The big question Is do you guys believe Rob’s wife is aware of his online stories?

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I doubt she cares much about the content of his posts.

The poor girl is probably happy to see him immerse himself online for hours at a time as it gives her a break from his likely relentless power and control games he almost certainly enmeshes her in,

Than again, it is equally plausible that he's a pussy-whipped lap dog who has been labeled a "degenerate gambling p.o.s." by his beloved; he may go online to construct a fantasy personae, something manly, something with "winning," something to give him an inducement to stay alive and to not blow his brains out.



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Pussy-wipped lap dog LOL - Sounds about right!

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

From the discussion, it seems Rob may have his personal number (the number Mickey has) and then at least 1 other phone, possibly even more phones than that, which he uses to be a troll.

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After I received a string of texts from a person who decided to not identify themselves, and to whom I was courteous, I did a number search and it turned out to be Rob. The info I got was that he had at least two Phoenix numbers, maybe three including the landline, plus a South Dakota number, plus a VoIP number for calling via broadband. Lots of options.

LOL. It just occurred to me right now. I'm so damned slow. He was probably hoping I would solicit him to try to "sell picks." That's hilarious. There was zero chance of that happening, but he gave it the old college try. That's pretty funny -- both that he tried it and that it took me this long to realize that was likely the reason.

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I know you said you and your team has never solicited Singer.

Just out of pure curiosity do you sell picks at all?
Do you bet?
Are you a bookie?

You don’t have to answer any of these if you don’t want to. I’m just curious. Thanks

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Originally Posted by redietz

What exactly did I promise?

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Here is what you promised...

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Originally Posted by redietz

No negotiation. Because if you don't do it, I'll just post the thing

don't make the bet, because I'll post it anyway.

Your choice.

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In consideration of your offer, I'm choosing not to make the bet, and you will post it anyway.

Now go right ahead and do what your promised. What's stopping you?

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Coach, see, this is what happens when you're on the other end of Socratic-ness. It's not that hard to do the kind of posting that you do. Really.

For example, I did not specify a date or time. I may have already posted it somewhere else, so I can wait for you to mouth off and then voila, point out that you're a buffoon.

On the other hand, why deprive other people who share your judgement of the opportunity for wagers? That would be silly. I'm sure someone in your corner would want to front you some money or make the wager themselves. It would be very foolish, speaking from an AP perspective, to deprive them of that opportunity.

Wouldn't you agree?

Your friend in Socratic-ness,

Bob

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Why would I post text messages from Rob Singer?

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Because you have Singer Derangement Syndrome.

I don't think that you have any text messages from Rob Singer,
but you're the one who mentioned these phantom texts.

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Originally Posted by redietz

Rob sent a series of anonymous texts to me weeks ago.

you want me to post those text messages?

Let me know if I should post them

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Originally Posted by redietz

Do you want me to list the text messages from Rob? Just let me know.

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It sure reads like you want to post those messages.

So I'm letting you know to go ahead and post them.

You are pursuing action against Rob with the Tennessee AG,
but now you are trying not to be a prick to him?

I'm rejecting that reason, that genie is out of the bottle.

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by PositiveVariance

From the discussion, it seems Rob may have his personal number (the number Mickey has) and then at least 1 other phone, possibly even more phones than that, which he uses to be a troll.

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After I received a string of texts from a person who decided to not identify themselves, and to whom I was courteous, I did a number search and it turned out to be Rob. The info I got was that he had at least two Phoenix numbers, maybe three including the landline, plus a South Dakota number, plus a VoIP number for calling via broadband. Lots of options.

LOL. It just occurred to me right now. I'm so damned slow. He was probably hoping I would solicit him to try to "sell picks." That's hilarious. There was zero chance of that happening, but he gave it the old college try. That's pretty funny -- both that he tried it and that it took me this long to realize that was likely the reason.

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I know you said you and your team has never solicited Singer.

Just out of pure curiosity do you sell picks at all?
Do you bet?
Are you a bookie?

You don’t have to answe any of these if you don’t want to. I’m just curious. Thanks

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I work on a percent of profit with some higher stakes sports gamblers. I'm not nor ever have been a bookmaker, although quite a few of my friends and acquaintances have been or are.

I sold plays back when Playbook, a national newsletter, was using 900 lines. I also sold season subscriptions back in my youth. Haven't done those things in a long time.

At some point, I'll pull my bio from 1984's Who Who in Sports Gambling and post it here or somewhere, and I'll give you a heads up. Oh, I know, if you search for the Retro Road Trip thread on this site, there's some background stuff, including some pages from the annual "Tipsters or Gypsters?" that was published out of Las Vegas and there's some op eds I wrote.

What I tried to impress upon people here was that I have never done cold calls or emails or PMs. The only emails involving anything that could be called a "pitch" are response emails. I don't send out email pitches or PM people or text people. I'm not looking for clients.

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Rob and I have been in phone contact for over 3 years.

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We're not talking about obscene phone calls here Mickey.

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You are trying very hard to get yourself inducted into the Brokeback Boys Club. Now get back to sucking maxpen's dick.

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Rob sent a series of anonymous texts to me weeks ago. I was very disappointed to discover it was Rob (how banal). The number matched one of his numbers.

He has two Phoenix area numbers, plus the SD number, plus a VoIP number.

So mickey, you want me to post those text messages? See, I don't even bother with some of the Rob crap. He's so transparent, why give the continual bullshit oxygen?

Let me know if I should post them, mickey. Your call. Me being so obsessed and all, I hadn't bothered to this point.

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You don't bother with Rob crap? Hahahahahahahahahhahaha!!!!!

You spend your every waking hour of everyday on "Rob crap."

Get a life, assclown.

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Mickey, buddy, pal, you didn't answer the question. Do you want me to list the text messages from Rob? Just let me know.

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Don't demand anything from me you stupid motherfucker. If you want to post something then do it, assclown.

Now get back to cornholing maxie.

This fucking moron thinks I'm supposed take orders from his ass.

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Because you have Singer Derangement Syndrome.

I don't think that you have any text messages from Rob Singer,
but you're the one who mentioned these phantom texts.

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Do you want me to list the text messages from Rob? Just let me know.

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It sure reads like you want to post those messages.

So I'm letting you know to go ahead and post them.

You are pursuing action against Rob with the Tennessee AG,
but now you are trying not to be a prick to him?

I'm rejecting that reason, that genie is out of the bottle.

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Well, we could bet on the texts, too, coach.

Actually, I am not pursuing any action against Singer with the Tennessee AG, coach. As you would say, that's a lie. I humbly requested that Rob help me out tracking down the people who solicited him because what they are doing must be illegal, posing as salespeople for me. I am, however, not sure exactly what laws are being broken, thus my appeal to the AG.

So I am passing Rob's name and number onto the Tennessee AG because I assume they'd want to talk with him regarding who solicited him posing as a salesperson for me. That is in no way, shape, or form "pursuing action" against Rob. That is recruiting Rob in my battle against crime.

You are legally incorrect. You are reading comprehensively incorrect. You are just plain incorrect all the way.

Wouldn't you agree?

P.S. I love this Socratic stuff, coach. I should have gotten lessons from you ages ago.

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From the discussion, it seems Rob may have his personal number (the number Mickey has) and then at least 1 other phone, possibly even more phones than that, which he uses to be a troll.

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After I received a string of texts from a person who decided to not identify themselves, and to whom I was courteous, I did a number search and it turned out to be Rob. The info I got was that he had at least two Phoenix numbers, maybe three including the landline, plus a South Dakota number, plus a VoIP number for calling via broadband. Lots of options.

LOL. It just occurred to me right now. I'm so damned slow. He was probably hoping I would solicit him to try to "sell picks." That's hilarious. There was zero chance of that happening, but he gave it the old college try. That's pretty funny -- both that he tried it and that it took me this long to realize that was likely the reason.

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I know you said you and your team has never solicited Singer.

Just out of pure curiosity do you sell picks at all?
Do you bet?
Are you a bookie?

You don’t have to answer any of these if you don’t want to. I’m just curious. Thanks

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He's just a beard.

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Here is what you promised...

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No negotiation. Because if you don't do it, I'll just post the thing

don't make the bet, because I'll post it anyway.

Your choice.

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In consideration of your offer, I'm choosing not to make the bet, and you will post it anyway.

Now go right ahead and do what your promised. What's stopping you?

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Coach, see, this is what happens when you're on the other end of Socratic-ness. It's not that hard to do the kind of posting that you do. Really.

For example, I did not specify a date or time. I may have already posted it somewhere else, so I can wait for you to mouth off and then voila, point out that you're a buffoon.

On the other hand, why deprive other people who share your judgement of the opportunity for wagers? That would be silly. I'm sure someone in your corner would want to front you some money or make the wager themselves. It would be very foolish, speaking from an AP perspective, to deprive them of that opportunity.

Wouldn't you agree?

Your friend in Socratic-ness,

Bob

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In other words, Ditz is a coward.