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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Red, because you're so invested in garnering my respect for you as a sports betting expert, allow me to propose a very simple task over these next four weeks:

I ask that you select and post 8 NFL games over weeks 15-18. Just the games and/or the overs/unders please. I'll do the same. That's 32 picks before the games are played. I'll start a new thread for this. If I win, no big deal, but you stop with the nonsense about me. If you win, I'll apologize and never badmouth you or anything related to you again. I will believe what you claim. But if you come out ahead, it has to be with a 50% or better record.

This is fair, right? There's no gotchas, no hidden stuff, and nothing even remotely nefarious.

OK?

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What are the lines sourced from? You can't just go making up spreads and such. I'd like to see this thread.

Also - Rob asking for mercy. LOL

If needed I can post lines a few days before game time or something then yall can pick from those lines?

Maybe I'm missing something?

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Account, if we ever get together, I'll see if I can give you codes to access the site. Not sure, but they'd probably be happy if you were a publicist or something. Now that I think about, maybe Mission would be okay.

The lines are legit. Many of the contestants are in the NHC Championships or on the NTRA tour, which means, in essence, they aren't terribly poor.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Red, because you're so invested in garnering my respect for you as a sports betting expert, allow me to propose a very simple task over these next four weeks:

I ask that you select and post 8 NFL games over weeks 15-18. Just the games and/or the overs/unders please. I'll do the same. That's 32 picks before the games are played. I'll start a new thread for this. If I win, no big deal, but you stop with the nonsense about me. If you win, I'll apologize and never badmouth you or anything related to you again. I will believe what you claim. But if you come out ahead, it has to be with a 50% or better record.

This is fair, right? There's no gotchas, no hidden stuff, and nothing even remotely nefarious.

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LOL. If you read the Retro Road Trip thread and checked the McCusker Report pages posted there, you'd see that I was billed as a "college football specialist." NFL games comprise, at most, 10% of my betting volume any given year, and that's a stretch.

I don't even think I'm ahead in the NFL this year -- I'd have to pin down the math precisely, but I think I may be negative. It's close to a wash.

Anybody who bets exclusively, or even mainly, on the NFL, well, God Bless You and good luck with that.

Can you imagine being labeled as expert or not on four weeks of covid-laced NFL games at the tail end of a season? May as well just have an octopus pick games for you.

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Huh? You're actually backing out because the NFL isn't your main squeeze? C'mon man!
Even if it isn't, doesn't your training and knowledge PRACTICALLY GUARANTEE that you'll do much better than someone who knows nothing about sports betting?

Here is your opportunity to trounce me and shut my mouth. Instead, in front of the people you so desperately try to convince that you're the real deal, you run for the hills with such a pathetic excuse. I'll bet if I told your "girlfriend" about this she'd tell you to ball up.

Let's do this!

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LOL. As Clint said in Magnum Force, "A man's got to know his limitations."

That's what gambling is all about. Knowing your limitations. That's what impresses me about kewlJ. It's easy to have the environment bleed you bit by bit at things you aren't expert. But he manages to not get hurt by that, even though he dabbles here and there in non-blackjack things. That takes judgement and discipline and knowing limitations.

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Originally Posted by redietz

NFL games comprise, at most, 10% of my betting volume any given year, and that's a stretch.

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Yet, 90% of your betting stories here involve NFL bets.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Red, because you're so invested in garnering my respect for you as a sports betting expert, allow me to propose a very simple task over these next four weeks:

I ask that you select and post 8 NFL games over weeks 15-18. Just the games and/or the overs/unders please. I'll do the same. That's 32 picks before the games are played. I'll start a new thread for this. If I win, no big deal, but you stop with the nonsense about me. If you win, I'll apologize and never badmouth you or anything related to you again. I will believe what you claim. But if you come out ahead, it has to be with a 50% or better record.

This is fair, right? There's no gotchas, no hidden stuff, and nothing even remotely nefarious.

OK?

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What are the lines sourced from? You can't just go making up spreads and such. I'd like to see this thread.

Also - Rob asking for mercy. LOL

If needed I can post lines a few days before game time or something then yall can pick from those lines?



Maybe I'm missing something?

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You ARE missing something, as usual, because you're looking for fault driven by a bias. Leave it to you to stick your foot into your mouth before any decisions are made. Oh wait--you and mickey are "tight". (I thought I'd throw that irrelevant fact in there before you did again).

Red's the expert. Anything I'm missing then I'll trust him to have it covered. It's that simple.

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Uhm, if you are doing a headsup sports pick contest you need to pick from the same source of lines. They lines don't need to be the best, you 2 just need the same set of lines. Otherwise the scuzzy one (you) will just go make up random lines which will easily outrun any skill the other might have.

You're an idiot. Go back to having machines telepath to you. <facepalm>

Unlike you Rob, some of this board are actually sharp.

Also, if you pick to win you can just pick the biggest favorites. I mean this should be obvious but with Mr Machine Telepathy who the fuck knows!

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by redietz

NFL games comprise, at most, 10% of my betting volume any given year, and that's a stretch.

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Yet, 90% of your betting stories here involve NFL bets.

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Well, that's a non sequitur for the ages.

So I'm supposed to blab most about what I bet most? I don't think that's in the AP code of conduct, but I could be wrong.

I suppose most of my betting horror stories are NFL stories. Let's see -- I had Houston at 30-1 and 40-1 to win the SB and some dude named Frank Reich was at QB for the other team.

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by redietz

LOL. If you read the Retro Road Trip thread and checked the McCusker Report pages posted there, you'd see that I was billed as a "college football specialist." NFL games comprise, at most, 10% of my betting volume any given year, and that's a stretch.

I don't even think I'm ahead in the NFL this year -- I'd have to pin down the math precisely, but I think I may be negative. It's close to a wash.

Anybody who bets exclusively, or even mainly, on the NFL, well, God Bless You and good luck with that.

Can you imagine being labeled as expert or not on four weeks of covid-laced NFL games at the tail end of a season? May as well just have an octopus pick games for you.

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Huh? You're actually backing out because the NFL isn't your main squeeze? C'mon man!
Even if it isn't, doesn't your training and knowledge PRACTICALLY GUARANTEE that you'll do much better than someone who knows nothing about sports betting?

Here is your opportunity to trounce me and shut my mouth. Instead, in front of the people you so desperately try to convince that you're the real deal, you run for the hills with such a pathetic excuse. I'll bet if I told your "girlfriend" about this she'd tell you to ball up.

Let's do this!

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LOL. As Clint said in Magnum Force, "A man's got to know his limitations."

That's what gambling is all about. Knowing your limitations. That's what impresses me about kewlJ. It's easy to have the environment bleed you bit by bit at things you aren't expert. But he manages to not get hurt by that, even though he dabbles here and there in non-blackjack things. That takes judgement and discipline and knowing limitations.

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Notwithstanding coach's post that 90% of your betting stories here involves the NFL.......hmmm.....

Why does this have anything to do with "limitations"? This is not some "pro challenge" nor is it sanctioned by Mr. Magoo. And it has nothing to do with reputation because there's less than a dozen readers here. It's a simple online face-off w/o the stupid inclusion of money involved. YOU have the advantage, right? Or are you now taking back all your past derogatory comments about my NFL picks in the past?

The only thing I can think of for your chickening out is, you're afraid if we do this then we might be more inclined to meet up someday. And if that happens, you'll probably have your "girlfriend" with you. You might also know that females have a sixth sense when it comes to guys who pack. I've always felt it everywhere I go. They also are pretty good Sherlock's when it comes to pimple packers. Conclusion: YOU DO NOT WANT TO GET CHUMMY WITH ME!

Point taken.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

What are the lines sourced from? You can't just go making up spreads and such. I'd like to see this thread.

Also - Rob asking for mercy. LOL

If needed I can post lines a few days before game time or something then yall can pick from those lines?



Maybe I'm missing something?

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You ARE missing something, as usual, because you're looking for fault driven by a bias. Leave it to you to stick your foot into your mouth before any decisions are made. Oh wait--you and mickey are "tight". (I thought I'd throw that irrelevant fact in there before you did again).

Red's the expert. Anything I'm missing then I'll trust him to have it covered. It's that simple.

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Uhm, if you are doing a headsup sports pick contest you need to pick from the same source of lines. They lines don't need to be the best, you 2 just need the same set of lines. Otherwise the scuzzy one (you) will just go make up random lines which will easily outrun any skill the other might have.

You're an idiot. Go back to having machines telepath to you. <facepalm>

Unlike you Rob, some of this board are actually sharp.

Also, if you pick to win you can just pick the biggest favorites. I mean this should be obvious but with Mr Machine Telepathy who the fuck knows!

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And what is so difficult for you to comprehend that I'm allowing redietz to name the source?

How thick are you?

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by redietz

NFL games comprise, at most, 10% of my betting volume any given year, and that's a stretch.

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Yet, 90% of your betting stories here involve NFL bets.

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Well, that's a non sequitur for the ages.

So I'm supposed to blab most about what I bet most? I don't think that's in the AP code of conduct, but I could be wrong.

I suppose most of my betting horror stories are NFL stories. Let's see -- I had Houston at 30-1 and 40-1 to win the SB and some dude named Frank Reich was at QB for the other team.

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I did a column about my favorite horror bets back when Alan ran this place.

The Oilers/Bills was there.

I had Clemson football at 50-1 to 100-1 to win the national championship one year. They were seven-point faves versus Alabama in the opener. It lasted about 10 seconds. Alabama ran back the opening kickoff and thrashed them.

That same year or the next, I had Clemson at 100-1 to win the NCAA hoops title after they came out of the gate 16-0 or 17-0. Not only didn't they win the title; they didn't make the tournament! They blew about five double-digit leads with five minutes left, lost some overtime games, and people figured out (1) they could not handle a press and (2) they could not shoot free throws. Did not make the tournament.

My favorite SB bet was the no score for first five minutes of game -- Colts versus Bears. Opening kickoff was run back for a TD. I turned the channel and watched a Monk marathon.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

You're actually backing out because the NFL isn't your main squeeze? C'mon man!
Here is your opportunity to trounce me and shut my mouth.

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Originally Posted by redietz

A man's got to know his limitations.

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https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/916db2c...3-5f5bd904a44c

skinned and neatly eviscerated

Nice way to deflect red, but you're still seen as nothing but a coward. You crave everyone perceive you as some sports betting God, yet when you have your chance to FINALLY POST PICKS BEFORE THE GAMES ARE PLAYED, you use the nearest escape route with your typical BS excuses.

No wonder you and kew like each other.

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Originally Posted by coach belly

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

You're actually backing out because the NFL isn't your main squeeze? C'mon man!
Here is your opportunity to trounce me and shut my mouth.

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Originally Posted by redietz

A man's got to know his limitations.

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https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/916db2c...3-5f5bd904a44c

skinned and neatly eviscerated

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He knows coach. So doesn't everyone else.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

You ARE missing something, as usual, because you're looking for fault driven by a bias. Leave it to you to stick your foot into your mouth before any decisions are made. Oh wait--you and mickey are "tight". (I thought I'd throw that irrelevant fact in there before you did again).

Red's the expert. Anything I'm missing then I'll trust him to have it covered. It's that simple.

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Uhm, if you are doing a headsup sports pick contest you need to pick from the same source of lines. They lines don't need to be the best, you 2 just need the same set of lines. Otherwise the scuzzy one (you) will just go make up random lines which will easily outrun any skill the other might have.

You're an idiot. Go back to having machines telepath to you. <facepalm>

Unlike you Rob, some of this board are actually sharp.

Also, if you pick to win you can just pick the biggest favorites. I mean this should be obvious but with Mr Machine Telepathy who the fuck knows!

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And what is so difficult for you to comprehend that I'm allowing redietz to name the source?

How thick are you?

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Dumb monkey - it is not that redietz is picking the source, it is that you BOTH need to use the same source.

You have not suggested such a thing anywhere. In your typical fashion it should be expected you'd try some dumb shit like I brought up.

Everyone knows you like to weasel. Thats what you did with the Newell. No reason to think you're not going to try your weasely ways again.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Uhm, if you are doing a headsup sports pick contest you need to pick from the same source of lines. They lines don't need to be the best, you 2 just need the same set of lines. Otherwise the scuzzy one (you) will just go make up random lines which will easily outrun any skill the other might have.

You're an idiot. Go back to having machines telepath to you. <facepalm>

Unlike you Rob, some of this board are actually sharp.

Also, if you pick to win you can just pick the biggest favorites. I mean this should be obvious but with Mr Machine Telepathy who the fuck knows!

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And what is so difficult for you to comprehend that I'm allowing redietz to name the source?

How thick are you?

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Dumb monkey - it is not that redietz is picking the source, it is that you BOTH need to use the same source.

You have not suggested such a thing anywhere. In your typical fashion it should be expected you'd try some dumb shit like I brought up.

Everyone knows you like to weasel. Thats what you did with the Newell. No reason to think you're not going to try your weasely ways again.

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Either you're just plain stupid, or you're nothing but an old fart with Alzheimer's.

BY REDIETZ PICKING THE SOURCE MEANS WE BOTH USE THAT SOURCE. Where have I ever mentioned I'm using a particular source.

Can I say it any clearer?

You're such a dumbass. You belong in the same company as red and kew. And if you're "tight" with mickey then he feels sorry for you.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Either you're just plain stupid, or you're nothing but an old fart with Alzheimer's.

BY REDIETZ PICKING THE SOURCE MEANS WE BOTH USE THAT SOURCE. Where have I ever mentioned I'm using a particular source.

Can I say it any clearer?

You're such a dumbass. You belong in the same company as red and kew. And if you're "tight" with mickey then he feels sorry for you.

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When your Man Servant Mickey stays for dinner does he eat from his own shoe or does he have to borrow one of yours?

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About all I can say is congratulations to your girlfriend. Why isn't the story in the gambling news or on the internet?

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It's a private competition. Most of the people in it, outside of the occasional sports book manager, are bigger horse players. Many are in the NHC Championship and on the NTRA tour.

So what would your response be to what Rob posted in that thread? If you were me, how would you respond?

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I would say....yes, I'm a little weird. It was a private affair so no, I don't have any evidence. She was a good ole' girl. To bad I had to shoot her.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

redietz, KJ wants to have a threesome with you and maxie. Are you up for it?

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Bump..

Red, KJ and maxpen want to have sex with you. What's the holdup on an answer. KJ says his bitch maxpen gives some good head.

Now that we see redietz chicken out of an exercise that would cost him nothing, win or lose, let's turn our attention to a subject that gets lots of blind comments.

Nov. 2020: maxpen starts a thread called: Finding Grandpa Newell. Go ahead and read it if any of you dare. I stated the RV was located over here in Gilbert. You may be surprised at how many times he said his bags were packed and he'd be right over as soon as I gave him a time and address. In it you'll see I announced in Jan. 2021 that it was almost already sold to my Israeli friend, but I still put it up on RV Trader as a backup, using only a couple of pictures I already had. I then told max and kew that it was ready to be seen in person here, and that they needed to contact me thru RV Traders site to set up the viewing. There were no conditions. None. Just contact me.

I guess for unknown reasons, they didn't want to contact me that way. Then max instead offered to show me his DL if he were to see it in person. That was not my condition-- you'll see he offered it out of thin air. So because they for some reason did not want to contact me thru the RV site--which I still don't get--I then posted the exact address and time where we could meet in Gilbert as soon as they could get here. Go ahead and re-read it all. It tells the real story, and is not clouded up with nonsense about the previous interior pics of a Newell that I posted.

So now shit got real. Kew disappeared, and max came up with reasons why he would not show. I figured this might happen, since how do you think they'd feel had they actually come over here to view it. And imagine how this would have affected the rest of you clowns.

Go ahead--read that thread. I caved in to the contact-via-RV site part, and I posted the day, time, and address to be here. The DL offer was 100% max, not me It was all exactly as I've been saying. They chose to back out solely so they could keep the lies coming. Had they come over, lie time would have no choice but to stop.

Who's got the courage to go back and read it? Maybe then you'll see why red wants no part of me in his own "field of expertise".

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Now that we see redietz chicken out of an exercise that would cost him nothing, win or lose, let's turn our attention to a subject that gets lots of blind comments.

Nov. 2020: maxpen starts a thread called: Finding Grandpa Newell. Go ahead and read it if any of you dare. I stated the RV was located over here in Gilbert. You may be surprised at how many times he said his bags were packed and he'd be right over as soon as I gave him a time and address. In it you'll see I announced in Jan. 2021 that it was almost already sold to my Israeli friend, but I still put it up on RV Trader as a backup, using only a couple of pictures I already had. I then told max and kew that it was ready to be seen in person here, and that they needed to contact me thru RV Traders site to set up the viewing. There were no conditions. None. Just contact me.

I guess for unknown reasons, they didn't want to contact me that way. Then max instead offered to show me his DL if he were to see it in person. That was not my condition-- you'll see he offered it out of thin air. So because they for some reason did not want to contact me thru the RV site--which I still don't get--I then posted the exact address and time where we could meet in Gilbert as soon as they could get here. Go ahead and re-read it all. It tells the real story, and is not clouded up with nonsense about the previous interior pics of a Newell that I posted.

So now shit got real. Kew disappeared, and max came up with reasons why he would not show. I figured this might happen, since how do you think they'd feel had they actually come over here to view it. And imagine how this would have affected the rest of you clowns.

Go ahead--read that thread. I caved in to the contact-via-RV site part, and I posted the day, time, and address to be here. The DL offer was 100% max, not me It was all exactly as I've been saying. They chose to back out solely so they could keep the lies coming. Had they come over, lie time would have no choice but to stop.

Who's got the courage to go back and read it? Maybe then you'll see why red wants no part of me in his own "field of expertise".

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No active poster is going to reread that thread.

Weasely weasel gonna weasel.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Now that we see redietz chicken out of an exercise that would cost him nothing, win or lose, let's turn our attention to a subject that gets lots of blind comments.

Nov. 2020: maxpen starts a thread called: Finding Grandpa Newell. Go ahead and read it if any of you dare. I stated the RV was located over here in Gilbert. You may be surprised at how many times he said his bags were packed and he'd be right over as soon as I gave him a time and address. In it you'll see I announced in Jan. 2021 that it was almost already sold to my Israeli friend, but I still put it up on RV Trader as a backup, using only a couple of pictures I already had. I then told max and kew that it was ready to be seen in person here, and that they needed to contact me thru RV Traders site to set up the viewing. There were no conditions. None. Just contact me.

I guess for unknown reasons, they didn't want to contact me that way. Then max instead offered to show me his DL if he were to see it in person. That was not my condition-- you'll see he offered it out of thin air. So because they for some reason did not want to contact me thru the RV site--which I still don't get--I then posted the exact address and time where we could meet in Gilbert as soon as they could get here. Go ahead and re-read it all. It tells the real story, and is not clouded up with nonsense about the previous interior pics of a Newell that I posted.

So now shit got real. Kew disappeared, and max came up with reasons why he would not show. I figured this might happen, since how do you think they'd feel had they actually come over here to view it. And imagine how this would have affected the rest of you clowns.

Go ahead--read that thread. I caved in to the contact-via-RV site part, and I posted the day, time, and address to be here. The DL offer was 100% max, not me It was all exactly as I've been saying. They chose to back out solely so they could keep the lies coming. Had they come over, lie time would have no choice but to stop.

Who's got the courage to go back and read it? Maybe then you'll see why red wants no part of me in his own "field of expertise".

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No active poster is going to reread that thread.

Weasely weasel gonna weasel.

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Probably not. But if they did, they'd see you were a liar.

What happens if mickey reads it?

It's right there in black & white people! You gonna read it--or you gonna continue doing what kew and max tried to do by cancelling me out, like the libs try to do every time something doesn't fit their false narrative?

Maybe you'll shame redietz into going up against an amateur like me in the process :)

I know I know.....right about now, some of you are getting angry after reading it and don't know what to say. You can begin with "HOLY CRAP". And it's OK to feel a little embarrassed for the two heroes here. Do not fret. I'm not gonna bite your heads off.