Bob Dietz' Coming Appeararance On PokerFraudAlert Radio

While all this history of sports betting is fascinating, we are now wasting out time in this redietz thread. Bob Dietz is never going to do an interview where he has to answer any questions about his 40 year tout operation that he can't answer. The guy doesn't know the math behind what he claims he was doing as evident by his bizarre statement about EV not being applicable to sports betting. And he doesn't understand Kelly betting, that he would have needed to implement, instead claiming Kelly doesn't work or apply to sports betting. In short, he doesn't understand the math of what he is claiming and thinks the math doesn't even apply to sports betting.

Last night Dietz claimed that axelwolf being involved was a new last second development. That was going to be an attempt by him to move the goal posts and serve as an excuse to wiggle out. Only problem is, as I pointed out Axelwolf has been involved and stated he wanted to be involved since day 1, page 1 of this thread/discussion.

Dietz wants to replace axelwolf and his tough questions with his friend Dennison, some dude that makes movies that no one knows or cares about. :D:D

THAT is Dietz's Bizzaro world. Shades of the Seinfeld episode "Bizzaro World"

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

While all this history of sports betting is fascinating, we are now wasting out time in this redietz thread. Bob Dietz is never going to do an interview where he has to answer any questions about his 40 year tout operation that he can't answer. The guy doesn't know the math behind what he claims he was doing as evident by his bizarre statement about EV and doesn't understand Kelly betting, that he would have needed to implement, instead claiming Kelly doesn't work or apply to sports betting.

Last night Dietz claimed that axelwolf being involved was a new last second development. That was going to be an attempt by him to move the goal posts and serve as an excuse to wiggle out. Only problem is, as I pointed out Axelwolf has been involved and stated he wanted to be involved since day 1, pay 1 of this thread/discussion.

Dietz wants to replace axelwolf and his tough questions with his friend Dennison, some dude that makes movies that no one knows or cares about. :D:D

THAT is Dietz's Bizzaro world. Shades of the Seinfeld episode "Bizzaro World"

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No, Dennison wouldn't be asking any questions or even breathing loud. I was just going to ask him to sit in because (1) he has broadcasting/film experience, (2) he said he did a terrible live interview last time he did one, and (3) he could profile me and possibly pitch me to Joey Merlino's podcast if he thinks I pass muster. That's it. I'm interested in getting an evaluation of my presentation from a professional TV/Film guy.

I don't know who taught the KewlJ(s) how to read, but it wasn't Villanova. They lie about every single thing they post. It's a little ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by redietz

I think one of the problems with Kim Lee's summary is that he uses the word "sports" as opposed to other words. Kind of like saying there are very few "surgeons-who-can-operate-on-every-bone-and-organ" in the world. Not terribly surprising, but how significant is that observation?

The distinction I'm making is one of definition, which -- as in most cases -- the common fallacy is to mis-define behaviors and actions, usually in a way that (1) simplifies things in a definitional way, (2) amplifies the ego and alleged abilities of the person involved a la Leonardo Da APs, but in this case Leonardo Da "Sports Bettors," and (3) benefits the sports books (as always).

Another analogy is that successful handicappers treat "sports betting" more like the Eskimos treat "snow." In other words, and I mean literally, the Eskimos have more words for snowfall and don't lump all the varieties together just because that's the way Westerners see "snow." Translating all the Eskimo definitions of snow into a couple (1) simplifies things, (2) makes the people who have to deal with their two definitions of "snow" confident they know it all and (3) benefits those who sell snow shovels.

I know Boz has a pretty good handle on what I'm talking about; not sure "APs" have the humility or precision required.

And I'm not even broaching the subject of addiction. Specialization may retard addiction to launching funds on variegated events that really have nothing in common. A college football specialist, such as myself, has 220 days out of the year where's he's betting almost nothing. That does tend to immunize one to some degree from many behavioral pitfalls. Sports books would prefer a different kind of behavior.

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Yeah, see this. We are going to keep getting more of this and no movement towards an interview. Bob Dietz's bizzarro world.

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Originally Posted by redietz

No, Dennison wouldn't be asking any questions or even breathing loud. I was just going to ask him to sit in because (1) he has broadcasting/film experience, (2) he said he did a terrible live interview last time he did one, and (3) he could profile me and possibly pitch me to Joey Merlino's podcast if he thinks I pass muster. That's it. I'm interested in getting an evaluation of my presentation from a professional TV/Film guy.

I don't know who taught the KewlJ(s) how to read, but it wasn't Villanova. They lie about every single thing they post. It's a little ridiculous.

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And this! (More Dietz's bizarro world). He wants to bring a filmmaker to what Dan Druff specified was an audio only interview. :D

Add in more Dietz madness and obsession with his name dropping of Mobster Joey Merlino and his podcast that no one cares about. Just gets weirder and weirder around here.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

While all this history of sports betting is fascinating, we are now wasting out time in this redietz thread. Bob Dietz is never going to do an interview where he has to answer any questions about his 40 year tout operation that he can't answer. The guy doesn't know the math behind what he claims he was doing as evident by his bizarre statement about EV and doesn't understand Kelly betting, that he would have needed to implement, instead claiming Kelly doesn't work or apply to sports betting.

Last night Dietz claimed that axelwolf being involved was a new last second development. That was going to be an attempt by him to move the goal posts and serve as an excuse to wiggle out. Only problem is, as I pointed out Axelwolf has been involved and stated he wanted to be involved since day 1, pay 1 of this thread/discussion.

Dietz wants to replace axelwolf and his tough questions with his friend Dennison, some dude that makes movies that no one knows or cares about. :D:D

THAT is Dietz's Bizzaro world. Shades of the Seinfeld episode "Bizzaro World"

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No, Dennison wouldn't be asking any questions or even breathing loud. I was just going to ask him to sit in because (1) he has broadcasting/film experience, (2) he said he did a terrible live interview last time he did one, and (3) he could profile me and possibly pitch me to Joey Merlino's podcast if he thinks I pass muster. That's it. I'm interested in getting an evaluation of my presentation from a professional TV/Film guy.

I don't know who taught the KewlJ(s) how to read, but it wasn't Villanova. They lie about every single thing they post. It's a little ridiculous.

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1 and 2 don't really explain why he needs to be there. I guess you don't realize but these are recorded for people who are not there in real time. That is what Dennison would need to pitch you.

The person who needs to bow out is the sociopathic liar with nothing to contribute.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

On these forums, usually there's fire where there's smoke. You have lied so many times about so many things (and not just on here) that you need to just own up to it and admit that you've had a lot of problems telling the truth on AP forums.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

I have the proof.

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How much will it cost me for you to post whatever proof you say that you have?

How about this?...after you post your proof, I will post proof that you sent that message to me.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

The person who needs to bow out is the sociopathic liar with nothing to contribute.

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Why are YOU in this discussion. The only time you are involved with sports is when you are comped tickets to a Golden Knights playoff game by a casino because you are a huge LOSING gambler.

And maybe you know about camel racing. When the discussion veers in that direction, we will call you. :cool:

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Funny to see the guy always crying about "homophobia" here is actually the biggest bigot on VCT.

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Dog, You fucking retard, you are going to attempt to even make a case about me and bigotry, with ALL the shit you have said and continue to say daily about me?

You are one fucked up dude. You make Singer look almost normal. :D

....well not normal, but next to you, he is less deranged. Plus he is like 90 now, so you can almost forgive his dementia and derangement.

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Originally Posted by SoxFan

Gotta say that personally I find the kewl-J to be a vile, despicable, repugnant little worm.

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Originally Posted by jdaewoo

Now, why isn't this retard out winning 25% [it's 25%! not 80% - at least get it right] of his tie bets?

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Some losers obsess about poker, or blackjack, or whatever. When they lose all their money, they go on the internet and brag about winning. I shouldn't waste more time on this. But I would book happily book the major sports action of anyone on this board. Only one person brags about their success. But they won't even do an interview. Heck, they won't even admit how little they bet. Big hat, no cattle.

I faded Stanford Wong's dice action, and would do it again. But I did not need to organize it. The only efficient way I can see this working is to grade a batch of picks each week at verifiable sportsbook numbers. Or one of you could get an agent account offshore and let the software do the work. I don't intend to waste any more time with foolishness here and Rob Singer challenges that never materialize. Bye.

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

While all this history of sports betting is fascinating, we are now wasting out time in this redietz thread. Bob Dietz is never going to do an interview where he has to answer any questions about his 40 year tout operation that he can't answer. The guy doesn't know the math behind what he claims he was doing as evident by his bizarre statement about EV and doesn't understand Kelly betting, that he would have needed to implement, instead claiming Kelly doesn't work or apply to sports betting.

Last night Dietz claimed that axelwolf being involved was a new last second development. That was going to be an attempt by him to move the goal posts and serve as an excuse to wiggle out. Only problem is, as I pointed out Axelwolf has been involved and stated he wanted to be involved since day 1, pay 1 of this thread/discussion.

Dietz wants to replace axelwolf and his tough questions with his friend Dennison, some dude that makes movies that no one knows or cares about. :D:D

THAT is Dietz's Bizzaro world. Shades of the Seinfeld episode "Bizzaro World"

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No, Dennison wouldn't be asking any questions or even breathing loud. I was just going to ask him to sit in because (1) he has broadcasting/film experience, (2) he said he did a terrible live interview last time he did one, and (3) he could profile me and possibly pitch me to Joey Merlino's podcast if he thinks I pass muster. That's it. I'm interested in getting an evaluation of my presentation from a professional TV/Film guy.

I don't know who taught the KewlJ(s) how to read, but it wasn't Villanova. They lie about every single thing they post. It's a little ridiculous.

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1 and 2 don't really explain why he needs to be there. I guess you don't realize but these are recorded for people who are not there in real time. That is what Dennison would need to pitch you.

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He's a director (or assistant director). He could see how I react in real time, physically. I assume this VCT interview is audio only. Any interview in the future would likely be video, including Merlino if I got a gig. And including Munchkin's podcast, if they do any more. So I think evaluating my physical presence and reactions in real time has significant value going forward. I mean, this guy is an actor and film director. He could coach me on voice tone, discipline, physical movement or lack thereof, and so on. So his presence hurts nothing and has value to me. I don't even know if he can do it. But I'll ask him tonight, and when a date gets pinned down I'll see if he can sit in.

Am I misinterpreting anything? I thought the value to me was pretty obvious.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

I have the proof.

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How much will it cost me for you to post whatever proof you say that you have?

How about this?...after you post your proof, I will post proof that you sent that message to me.

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Without even looking, I'm fairly positive I didn't send you a PM with my email address. I don't care what proof you claim to have or what game you are playing, I only care about legitimate proof that I didn't make an honest attempt to send him my email address via PM here. Dan can look into this, and I'll post whatever proof I have without any bets or costs to anyone. It's a dumb argument, as I admit I made an honest mistake and somehow replied to myself when attempting to send Red my email address.

Dude, Noone fucking cares about this goofy shit with Dennison (whoever the fuck that is) or Merlino!

Stop acting like a fucking moron and set up a day and time for Dan Druff to interview you, with Axelwolf available to ask questions, or just shut the fuck up and go away.

Noone gives a shit about all this other delusional shit you keep deflecting to.

As Axelwolf said: "shit or get off the pot", but stop jerking everyone around with your crazy ass shit!

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

stop jerking everyone around with your crazy ass shit!

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ, the problem is here that you can't cast yourself as a serious poster if you are going to tell major lies to back up other stories.

I will admit that I am very puzzled regarding what is the actual truth with you.

a lot of what you write could be total fiction. You're definitely someone who isn't adverse to lying on forums if it suits you to do so.

Had MaxPen not done his searching, we would probably still be reading long essays about the lawsuits, and how we are all fools to be doubting it.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

Very well written summary, MDawg.

I enjoyed it.

I like how MaxPen called it kewlJ's "Newell moment". Hilarious.

I will admit that this never smelled quite right to me, and my personal belief at this point is that kewlJ made the whole thing up.

I don't think there was any incident which was lawsuit-worthy, which is why we got so many changing and bizarre versions of the same story.

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Originally Posted by Kim Lee

But I would book happily book the major sports action of anyone on this board.

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This reads like an empty gesture, in light of the fact that you are turning tail within the same post.

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Originally Posted by Kim Lee

I don't intend to waste any more time with foolishness here...Bye.

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