tax transcripts have arrived

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Originally Posted by redietz

Rob, I'm still confused, man. Are you saying Alan has fake forms in his office mailbox or not? If the transcripts are valid, what is your beef? You are bothered by the IRS doing more than is stated on their site? What's so wild about that?

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No I didn't say that. I said that I read both forms (as should everyone interested in this), I read the IRS site, I called the IRS, and I asked my "friend" at the IRS; they all clearly said that you can only receive transcripts for the current year plus the 3 prior years.

While some may want others to believe it's entirely possible that the IRS will "exceed expectations" or in your case "do more than is stated on their site" I have been told on the phone as well as in person that transcripts are not allowed BY LAW to go out over 3 years past. Should they suddenly appear in what Alan has, then there's a 99.99% chance they are fake. Would you agree with that or are you still sticking to the "it wouldn't be so wild" theory? If so then I invite you to do everything I did and see what you come up with. And for a pathological liar like arci who prides himself at being smarter and more cunning than anyone else anywhere as well as his current "going nowhere" status with nothing to lose, don't bet against it.

BTW after talking to my son-in-law, sending out fake transcripts is probably pretty simple to do given the motivation. All one needs is a transcript in their hands for the boilerplate, and anyone with a computer can make their own up complete with the IRS logo and address etc. The tough part would be the envelopes, because of the restriction/penalty stated for using their postage for personal purposes. There are ways around everything however, and never put it past a nerd who's life has already fallen apart to do the unexpected when it comes to his ego.

Arci face it--trying to deny that a know-it-all "didn't know everything" and "I wasn't trying to give the perception that I really REALLY wanted to get all 11 years sent in for my usual devious reasons" on what is obviously the most important event in your life since burial day, is simply satisfying to see.

But I'll ease up on the pressure for now if you turn to answering why you suddenly changed from tax returns to transcripts as soon as I agreed. Even your caveman could see the sweat dripping from your shiny forehead after that one. And, you entered into this challenging me to show my years of tax returns as a professional gambler. You even go so far as to claim I never filed a Schedule C! So now, without the ability to keep a believable whine going about my not getting the transcripts since they just aren't available, and there is only either 1 or 2 years of tax returns possibly available ('08/'09) while you previously stated that so few a # of years would be inconclusive evidence as it pertains to me, what is it you expect?

I'll give you the opportunity to be clear here and be truthful for a change.

I do get a chuckle out of Singers acrobatics. We will see what the IRS sent when Alan has time. It's possible they sent all the years or they may have sent none or anywhere in between.

As anyone can clearly see, Singer is in total panic and we don't even have a single transcript. These actions betray him. Why does he care? Simple. When your entire self-esteem is based on a lie, and that lie is being exposed, the mental distress is raging. We are seeing the result.

BTW, I love the added projection:

- there's a 99.99% chance [he is] fake.
- And ... a pathological liar
- his current "going nowhere" status

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Originally Posted by RS__

Funny, Rob is clearly out-numbered on this forum....yet he's been kicked off of every other gambling forum...and he's STILL trying to push his views on people. I'll him that, he doesn't give up -- the little engine that could.

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Funny is right! Mickey's been permanently banned from THIS forum, and he carries on as if he's at an open bar.

Arci: As Rob implied, I can just see those big dewdrops of sweat trickling down your shiny forehead after your sending out those fake transcripts as your ego is soon to be destroyed. Any last words before it all comes crashing down on you? <wink>

This has gotten bizarre. The odds that arci has sent fake transcripts: about as long as a sequential royal.

We all await Alan's report on the mystery envelopes. Cue the Mission Impossible theme for arci's counterfeiting expertise.

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Originally Posted by redietz

This has gotten bizarre. The odds that arci has sent fake transcripts: about as long as a sequential royal.

We all await Alan's report on the mystery envelopes. Cue the Mission Impossible theme for arci's counterfeiting expertise.

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Redietz, did you ever read any books or watch any documentaries about Hitler shortly before the fall of Berlin? (even the movie "Downfall" would serve this purpose)

He still thought he could win the war even though his army units were decimated and the Allies were at his doorstep.

I really wish Rob would have not cancelled his tax returns. For the price of a spare tire on one of his RV's he could have earned lifetime respect and adulation from all the members of this forum to which he has devoted over 4,000 posts.

Rob--as someone who has pretty much sided with you in the couple years I have been on this Forum, you really need to step up and send something to Alan. Whether it is full returns, transcripts which you could then explain if they don't clearly show what you are wanting them to show, or the key to the storage locker---send something or you really are looking bad here.

What Arci's returns show was never really the issue here. His providing the returns was always just a means to get you to send yours, and now you aren't doing it and you are looking bad. Step up before it's too late.

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Originally Posted by regnis

Rob--as someone who has pretty much sided with you in the couple years I have been on this Forum, you really need to step up and send something to Alan. Whether it is full returns, transcripts which you could then explain if they don't clearly show what you are wanting them to show, or the key to the storage locker---send something or you really are looking bad here.

What Arci's returns show was never really the issue here. His providing the returns was always just a means to get you to send yours, and now you aren't doing it and you are looking bad. Step up before it's too late.

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Agreed with regnis. I will also admit I have long held a sliver of hope that Rob was telling the truth about all that he said. Like Alan, I was also intrigued by the idea of walking away a winner from VP sessions with -EV games given proper discipline and structural progression.

I actually feel disappointed this may all be a lie because I have read Rob's materials off and on for many years (including the entertaining VPTruth articles).

I don't support Rob's progressions or theories, but I also read the majority of columns Rob wrote for Gaming Today. We were both living in Las Vegas (me for 100 days a year; Rob year-round) at the time. He is a pretty decent writer, and he was entertaining when he wasn't hateful. I do support Rob's general tooth-and-nail philosophy regarding casinos -- do as they don't want you to do and all that.

He seems, however, to be a bit on tilt with this latest topic.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

Besides, if he shows even 1 year where he claimed a win and happily paid taxes on it, what kind of fool would that be? What Schedule A filer who wins doesn't mitigate all claimed wins with claimed losses on Schedule A?

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This is why I am laughing about this entire "challenge." Who wouldn't try to offset modest wins with losses so there is no tax liability? It certainly can be done and the IRS probably wouldn't raise an eyebrow over it.

Even a hundred thousand dollar annual win could be considered "modest" for a frequent player and could be easily offset with losses. It's when someone wins a million dollars that you probably would face IRS scrutiny.

If Arc paid taxes on a gambling profit my hat's off to him! He deserves a medal.

But Rob, what makes you different is that you claimed you offset your average $100,000 per year wins not with losses, but with hokey pokey business deductions for having dinner with your wife, buying groceries, and hosting parties. So Rob tell us: why do something controversial when the simple way out would be just to report losses? A profit of $100,000 a year is not hard to hide for a high denomination player, and especially for one who played at multiple casinos and may not have had a players card tracking all play.

Honestly Rob, unless I see your tax returns showing something different, I can't possibly think or accept that you offset your wins with dinners, groceries and parties and I don't care who told you it was okay to pull off that kind of hokey pokey. I posted what the IRS guidelines are previously, and everyone can read them just as I did. I think your tax returns are going to show modest "business deductions" and routine losses just like every other gambler with a profit does. Maybe you did actually have a profit but I don't think the Rob Singer we all know would ever want to pay taxes. So my guess is -- drum roll please -- your tax returns will show both losses and business deductions wiping out your wins.

Just to reiterate -- I don't have any winning/profitable years so I didn't have to do any hokey pokey when I filed taxes for all the years I've been going to casinos. And here's some ammunition for you, Rob, so you can start your 2016 insults: even with my $100,000 royal in October of 2015, Rob, I didn't have profit for the full year. That $100,000 profit was too little, too late to offset the previous 9 months of gambling and what I lost playing after. And I'm not ashamed at all because while I don't have a profit I didn't go into a deep hole, nor will I have to file bankruptcy. I was a recreational player and that $100,000 royal gave me plenty of recreation following the win and offset the losses I had in the previous nine months or so.

So Rob, if you want to insult me, go ahead. I'm prepared. You always insult me when the going gets tough -- because you hope I will suspend you so that you have an excuse for not responding to everyone else on the forum. Well Rob, NO suspension is coming. This time we're going to see it through to "the end."

Now, with that said, at "the end" you might be due for a giant apology and a giant atta-boy for really having on average $100,000 per year of profits, and for really offsetting your entire tax liability with dinners, groceries and parties. And if that's what I see when/if I get your tax returns I will become your biggest cheerleader.

Remember Rob, I never doubted that you won the money you said you did. It makes perfect sense to me that a high denomination player like you who quits when ahead, could total up profits of $100,000 per year. What I doubt is your claim about offsetting the taxable gains with dinners, groceries, parties and other hokey pokey business deductions and getting an OK from the IRS in audits.

Prove me wrong, Rob, by showing me the returns.

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Originally Posted by regnis

Rob--as someone who has pretty much sided with you in the couple years I have been on this Forum, you really need to step up and send something to Alan. Whether it is full returns, transcripts which you could then explain if they don't clearly show what you are wanting them to show, or the key to the storage locker---send something or you really are looking bad here.

What Arci's returns show was never really the issue here. His providing the returns was always just a means to get you to send yours, and now you aren't doing it and you are looking bad. Step up before it's too late.

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Exactly right. It's always been about Rob proving what he has always claimed. Arc, please don't be offended by this: who cares if Arc won or not? I don't.

Arci, change your name to Arciavelli, master manipulator and document forger, I like it.

I was just thinking that there may be a logical reason why all my tax forms made it to Alan. What if someone from the IRS was following this forum. They saw Singer's claims and like Alan thought they seemed a little strange. They didn't like the idea of Singer pushing the idea that just about anything could be deducted from gambling winnings.

As a result, they pushed through my request. They may not legally have been able to review Singer's returns (without an audit being electronically identified), but they wanted to know. Now, when Singer refuses to send Alan his forms it will be obvious he is a liar and never won a cent let alone made all those silly deductions he claimed.

The IRS may also have been interested to see if I actually won money and reported it. When Alan reports the information they will know I was honest.

Of course, the probability of this is low but still ....

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Exactly right. It's always been about Rob proving what he has always claimed. Arc, please don't be offended by this: who cares if Arc won or not? I don't.

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That's always been pretty obvious. I think the only one really interest was the Belly Singer.

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Originally Posted by Count Room

Arci: As Rob implied, I can just see those big dewdrops of sweat trickling down your shiny forehead after your sending out those fake transcripts as your ego is soon to be destroyed. Any last words before it all comes crashing down on you? <wink>

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My faking skills will become legendary as it appears I can fake a postmark from a city where I could have no idea the IRS forms would come from. Probably an IRS logo or stamp on the documents as well. Or, maybe I intercepted Alan's mail and then stuck in the forged documents all the while continuing to post comments from by local IP address. Obviously I have the ability to teleport those 2000 miles to LA (or I'm logging some massive miles).

LOL.

Arcimede$ is really David Copperfield. I knew it all along.

"AHA! He is a magician -- he just admitted it, he's a magician and forged all the tax transcripts! He intercepted the mail and snuck in the forged documents! Bah, now I don't need to turn in my tax stuff, cuz THAT proves I'm a winner using my always-losing-always-chasing system! My $1M was all written off as expenses, including my RVs I bought later on somehow, wise up."

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Originally Posted by regnis

Rob--as someone who has pretty much sided with you in the couple years I have been on this Forum, you really need to step up and send something to Alan. Whether it is full returns, transcripts which you could then explain if they don't clearly show what you are wanting them to show, or the key to the storage locker---send something or you really are looking bad here.

What Arci's returns show was never really the issue here. His providing the returns was always just a means to get you to send yours, and now you aren't doing it and you are looking bad. Step up before it's too late.

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A little confusing regnis. Send Alan what for which years? No one has answered that question yet because arci changed his terms after I agreed to them. That's how he has always operated whenever the possibility of my confirming what I've done gets close to happening. It's hard dealing with a weasel.

The only way this does anything for me is a full disclosure with tax returns together with W2G's, 1099's, the audit report, and now it seems proof of filing Schedule C....And for multiple years. When I agreed to do it arci panicked. Now I'm not even sure I can get anything other than 2009, where I retired as a pro at the end of April and there is no audit report for that year.

I went at Fezzik and the HP bunch with a $640,000 cash bet escrowed at the Casuarina casino, for the same type of disclosure and covered by Gaming Today & the LV Sun. This time I offered to do this for free, if in fact it can be done at all this far into the future. So no, if a loser-in-life like arci is going to escape his own terms out of fear, then that's the way it is. His only position has always been to get me to NOT send in my returns, just so he can keep lying about how I never won and never had the intention of showing returns. According to that fool, I was willing to lose my public bet had Fezzik & company called my bet. So at this point I don't care anything about what a few critics think if they can't see the truth in all this. And like I said, this nonsense isn't very high up on my importance list. It is on arci's though. Just ompare his "life" to mine right now....

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

This is why I am laughing about this entire "challenge." Who wouldn't try to offset modest wins with losses so there is no tax liability? It certainly can be done and the IRS probably wouldn't raise an eyebrow over it.

Even a hundred thousand dollar annual win could be considered "modest" for a frequent player and could be easily offset with losses. It's when someone wins a million dollars that you probably would face IRS scrutiny.

If Arc paid taxes on a gambling profit my hat's off to him! He deserves a medal.

But Rob, what makes you different is that you claimed you offset your average $100,000 per year wins not with losses, but with hokey pokey business deductions for having dinner with your wife, buying groceries, and hosting parties. So Rob tell us: why do something controversial when the simple way out would be just to report losses? A profit of $100,000 a year is not hard to hide for a high denomination player, and especially for one who played at multiple casinos and may not have had a players card tracking all play.

Honestly Rob, unless I see your tax returns showing something different, I can't possibly think or accept that you offset your wins with dinners, groceries and parties and I don't care who told you it was okay to pull off that kind of hokey pokey. I posted what the IRS guidelines are previously, and everyone can read them just as I did. I think your tax returns are going to show modest "business deductions" and routine losses just like every other gambler with a profit does. Maybe you did actually have a profit but I don't think the Rob Singer we all know would ever want to pay taxes. So my guess is -- drum roll please -- your tax returns will show both losses and business deductions wiping out your wins.

Just to reiterate -- I don't have any winning/profitable years so I didn't have to do any hokey pokey when I filed taxes for all the years I've been going to casinos. And here's some ammunition for you, Rob, so you can start your 2016 insults: even with my $100,000 royal in October of 2015, Rob, I didn't have profit for the full year. That $100,000 profit was too little, too late to offset the previous 9 months of gambling and what I lost playing after. And I'm not ashamed at all because while I don't have a profit I didn't go into a deep hole, nor will I have to file bankruptcy. I was a recreational player and that $100,000 royal gave me plenty of recreation following the win and offset the losses I had in the previous nine months or so.

So Rob, if you want to insult me, go ahead. I'm prepared. You always insult me when the going gets tough -- because you hope I will suspend you so that you have an excuse for not responding to everyone else on the forum. Well Rob, NO suspension is coming. This time we're going to see it through to "the end."

Now, with that said, at "the end" you might be due for a giant apology and a giant atta-boy for really having on average $100,000 per year of profits, and for really offsetting your entire tax liability with dinners, groceries and parties. And if that's what I see when/if I get your tax returns I will become your biggest cheerleader.

Remember Rob, I never doubted that you won the money you said you did. It makes perfect sense to me that a high denomination player like you who quits when ahead, could total up profits of $100,000 per year. What I doubt is your claim about offsetting the taxable gains with dinners, groceries, parties and other hokey pokey business deductions and getting an OK from the IRS in audits.

Prove me wrong, Rob, by showing me the returns.

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So again Alan, after all that you effectively missed the point: which returns? 2009 is not nearly a representative year with only four months of play, and I don't remember if I filed a C or not. 2008 is possible complete with audit report, but is it still available? And guess how important all this is to me these days. Too bad you weren't reporting about this when "Gaming Today Columnist Lays Down The Gauntlet" made the front pages of 2 LV papers. I wonder who's side you'd have been on when the cash was in escrow....

You didn't have to tell us what an obsessive compulsive gambler you really are. I already knew, and I suspect everyone else does too. What I'm surprised at is how you constantly can't take the high heat I throw by moaning about how your business is at risk when sponsors or other business associates read my truthful beliefs that you are a gambling addict--and why. They can read Alan. They're not stupid. And I guess jbjb & RS__ were right all along. You never told us how far in the hole you were before hitting the big royal, and you've done nothing but lose on the $25 machines lately and if I'm right, you've been humbled by the $100 machines also. That's exactly what problem gamblers do: go UP in denomination when they hit it big. You'll never be a gambling winner, now I get it. You just don't know how to stop--or when. And I'm ashamed for you, because if you listened to me or let me train you properly, you would never be boasting about what a loser you are on a forum. Doesn't matter that you never filed bankruptcy like I did in '96. Why do you not have a house? Why can you not keep a wife? These "people" you fear might read this don't even NEED to read it to know what's going on.

This tax return thing is all about me--I know. I also say who cares about what arci shows. My belief is what's important about him--which is the only thing interesting about him--is how he led his long time wife straight to the grave for an early death thru casinos when he could have & should have extended her life with a much more healthy lifestyle. I'm sure he has a very proud nerd of a son.