Rob Singer sightings...

Mickey, Rob never claimed to beat negative video poker. All he's done is win at certain times and then said he quit when ahead.

Now I can't tell you if his reported profits are true and after all Rob has told us that he uses all sorts of deductions to offset his video poker profits. So we'll never know.

However he has presented the math of his special plays as well as the conventional plays for all to see. He has been 100% clear that his special plays are all at a disadvantage to the conventional plays. He has never denied the math. He has only said that less than 5% of the time (and that could mean less than one-tenth of one percent of the time) he has hoped a special play would give him luck.

Do not confuse that with his other hostile words.

Frankly, Rob's system of playing full pay 8/5 Bonus Poker with a conventional strategy 95%+ of the time is easier to believe than claims that someone can earn $500 a day playing must hit by low level slots five days a week because that would mean the slot player is winning 20% more than Singer's $100,000 a year.

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Originally Posted by redietz

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

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Originally Posted by redietz

Well, Argentino has evidently hit a brick wall trying to get my personal details, so he's decided I invented being married and so on. Undoubtedly trying to have me state my late wife's name or origin or something. Back in the day, he was at least entertaining.

Mendelson's the problem here. He's propping Argentino up. The only reasonable thing to do is put Argentino's more crass and vile comments next to Alan's commentaries defending him and see what certain people think of the Mendelson family and business supporting such a reckless, racist, homophobic clown. Everything I need is available. It won't even require creative editing.

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What is your problem redietz? Where have I ever mentioned your late wife or supported Rob's nasty comments about you or anyone else?

And just what embarrassment are you going to cause me and my family?

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You appear to be supporting the rambling lies of a racist, homophobic, martingale quack. You seek to make him credible, as if your association with him isn't going to follow you, your former business, and your son.

It's a brave new world, Mr. Mendelson. Your business and your family are entwined with Mr. Argentino and everything he says and does. It's just a matter of publicizing that to the correct people.

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No. I'm pointing out what Rob Singer told me in the interviews. I suggest you read again what was written starting with the very first paragraph explaining what my purpose was.

A personal and public note to redietz: why don't you just ignore Singer's offensive talk including talk about your late wife? Is it really important for you to carry on this battle? I don't think anyone cares.

A personal and public note to mickeycrimm: why don't you ignore Rob as well? What's the point of arguing? What can you win and what would he lose by continuing?

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Mickey, Rob never claimed to beat negative video poker. All he's done is win at certain times and then said he quit when ahead.

Now I can't tell you if his reported profits are true and after all Rob has told us that he uses all sorts of deductions to offset his video poker profits. So we'll never know.

However he has presented the math of his special plays as well as the conventional plays for all to see. He has been 100% clear that his special plays are all at a disadvantage to the conventional plays. He has never denied the math. He has only said that less than 5% of the time (and that could mean less than one-tenth of one percent of the time) he has hoped a special play would give him luck.

Do not confuse that with his other hostile words.

Frankly, Rob's system of playing full pay 8/5 Bonus Poker with a conventional strategy 95%+ of the time is easier to believe than claims that someone can earn $500 a day playing must hit by low level slots five days a week because that would mean the slot player is winning 20% more than Singer's $100,000 a year.

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I rarely get a must hit play. There are much stronger plays around anyway. Alan, a whole new generation of vulturable games have hit the casinos nationwide in the last couple of years. They are still being installed in places. These games can be found from one end of the country to the other. In other words, it's boom times for advantage players. I haven't seen anything like it since the late nineties. I'm currently not spending much time in Montana.

And remember, I once offered to show you what I do. You did not take the offer and continued to criticize, not believe. Your opinions are based in ignorance until you see it.

PS: Since you came back does this mean Fat Belly is going to come out of the woodwork too?

Mickey are you now willing to be on TV?

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

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Originally Posted by redietz

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What is your problem redietz? Where have I ever mentioned your late wife or supported Rob's nasty comments about you or anyone else?

And just what embarrassment are you going to cause me and my family?

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You appear to be supporting the rambling lies of a racist, homophobic, martingale quack. You seek to make him credible, as if your association with him isn't going to follow you, your former business, and your son.

It's a brave new world, Mr. Mendelson. Your business and your family are entwined with Mr. Argentino and everything he says and does. It's just a matter of publicizing that to the correct people.

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No. I'm pointing out what Rob Singer told me in the interviews. I suggest you read again what was written starting with the very first paragraph explaining what my purpose was.

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What you state as a purpose is irrelevant. People state purposes all of the time. Stating a purpose doesn't relieve anyone of responsibility for consequences. What matters are the consequences of your support for a ranting, racist, homophobic martingale quack who slanders people on a regular basis.

Your taping of him, your support of him, your friendship of him reflects on you, your business, and whoever currently runs your former business. You are associated with him. You have propped him up repeatedly, and you are largely responsible for any credibility he currently has.

People should know these things about you, your family, and your business. And they will.

Redietz why don't you call me a kike?

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Mickey are you now willing to be on TV?

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How much are you willing to pay? If I'm going to be spilling the beans to a mass audience I demand to be paid well.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Mickey are you now willing to be on TV?

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How much are you willing to pay? If I'm going to be spilling the beans to a mass audience I demand to be paid well.

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What guarantee do you give that you will perform as expected?

Redietz, I've no dog in this fight but in the interest of clarity I'll point out that in supporting singer alan does not become singer.

Your fight is with his friend, not with alan, so why not go to GF or wherever else your nemesis is posting these days and go toe to toe with him directly?

Enough with the surrogates.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Redietz, I've no dog in this fight but in the interest of clarity I'll point out that in supporting singer alan does not become singer.

Your fight is with his friend, not with alan, so why not go to GF or wherever else your nemesis is posting these days and go toe to toe with him directly?

Enough with the surrogates.

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STFU clown...what are you the moral conscience for everyone on the internet?...all you want to see is more internet drama while you sit at your desk and whack yourself off, waiting for another ambulance to chase

Fuck off, douchenozzle.

I don't post at GF, I care little as to what goes on there.

Alan left and returned to protect his buddy, who cannot post here because he is nuked.

Fair is fair.

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Fuck off, douchenozzle.

I don't post at GF, I care little as to what goes on there.

Alan left and returned to protect his buddy, who cannot post here because he is nuked.

Fair is fair.

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I wouldn't say I'm protecting Rob. Rather, I think I'm reminding everyone just what Rob has said about the math of video poker including that he follows the math of the game and plays the games with the best returns and that he acknowledges that his special plays are at a mathematical disadvantage to the conventional plays. Now I think everyone understands that and if you still don't understand that then watch the videos on my website and watch Rob say those things.

Playing negative EV VP you are going to lose X. Playing it at double the stakes you are going to lose X x 2. Playing it at quadruple your are going to lose X x 4. Playing it wrong with make you lose even more. No getting around this. Thats why Sling isn't a multi-billionaire yet and still plays for chump change. IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK!!

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Originally Posted by jbjb

Playing negative EV VP you are going to lose X. Playing it at double the stakes you are going to lose X x 2. Playing it at quadruple your are going to lose X x 4. Playing it wrong with make you lose even more. No getting around this. Thats why Sling isn't a multi-billionaire yet and still plays for chump change. IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK!!

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I must admit that I haven't found the magic bullet yet because I have never had an annual profit gambling. But I've also played positive expectation video poker games and damn't I didn't have a profit doing that either.

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Originally Posted by jbjb

Playing negative EV VP you are going to lose X. Playing it at double the stakes you are going to lose X x 2. Playing it at quadruple your are going to lose X x 4. Playing it wrong with make you lose even more. No getting around this. Thats why Sling isn't a multi-billionaire yet and still plays for chump change. IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK!!

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This really is all that need be said, jbjb. But I will add to it.

Here are the facts of the Rob Singer.....story: Presumably the person posting as Rob Singer had a full career as a executive. You will note that he did not earn his money from VP play. I am not knocking this career or any career choice. Just posing the question....why would someone who discovered the holy grail, and could make as much money as he desired, work and go through the daily grind (even at the higher end) until retirement? :rolleyes:

And the answer is that this person has not discovered the holy grail. This person is a negative expectation, degenerative type gambler. Their higher end career earnings provided them with the means to play and lose regularly. Hopefully he has not lost everything he worked for, for a lifetime, but living in a RV, in someone else's driveway, mooching electricity and internet from friends and family is not a good sign.

His tales of winning a million dollars playing negative expectation games are just that...."tales". There is an old joke....how do you win a million dollars gambling? You start with two million and play until you have 1 million. That seems closer to Rob Singer, or whatever this person is calling themselves, actual journey. :rolleyes:

Remember your grandfather who went to the race track, 2-3 times a week for a lifetime? When you asked his how he did over a lifetime...he would always say "about even". This Rob Singer person's claims are along those lines. Against the mathematics and nothing more than wishful thinking.

What changes this situation from your grandfather's rather harmless "I am about even over my lifetime", is writing a book. It's no longer a man trying to justify his losses to himself or grandson with his fantasy. Now it becomes an agenda! An attempt to deceive for profit. And this is precisely why this Rob Singer person becomes so combative, so utterly nasty and attacks anyone who rightfully challenges the mathematics of his fantasy claims.

To try to stem the damage from those that rightfully point out the impossibility of these claims, the agenda driven person needs a few voices to speak up in support of his fantasy claims. This is often where sock puppets enter the picture and this Rob Singer person has been a master of that. And if this person is good at his craft of deception, he may find a couple gullible people to speak up in support of him (as in this case) or find some other shyster type, willing to speak up and enable him and Alan Mendleson has filled that role nicely.

Just think about this: You have one person living in a fantasy world that thinks he saw lightning strike 18 times in a row vouching for a guy who claims to have won a million dollars grinding at a negative expectation game. That would be funny....if it wasn't so sad. :(

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Redietz, I've no dog in this fight but in the interest of clarity I'll point out that in supporting singer alan does not become singer.

Your fight is with his friend, not with alan, so why not go to GF or wherever else your nemesis is posting these days and go toe to toe with him directly?

Enough with the surrogates.

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If Alan were still a news journalist he would lose his job over his association with Singer.

For those following along with this drama, you can flip over to GF to see this Rob Singer person respond. But note his response will not include anything concrete that disputes anything I have said, but rather, personal attacks against my sexuality or god knows what. Nothing concrete, because there is nothing concrete. His whole thing is an alternative fantasy world.

And GF is the perfect place for this 'person'. Yes, many of us that are now here, myself included, participated at GF. But upon the owner exposing himself as a scam artist type, most of the legitimate members of the AP and gambling community left. So it is kind of fitting that this Rob Singer person become the star attraction of such a site. ;)

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Redietz, I've no dog in this fight but in the interest of clarity I'll point out that in supporting singer alan does not become singer.

Your fight is with his friend, not with alan, so why not go to GF or wherever else your nemesis is posting these days and go toe to toe with him directly?

Enough with the surrogates.

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Incorrect, Mr. V. I wish it were as you say, but that would be the same as saying that the Stanford Research Institute had nothing to do with the financial and reputational success of Uri Geller. Uri Geller, without the imprimatur of the SRI, would have been a niche novelty. It was when a respected scientific establishment was manipulated and bamboozled that Geller's public stock rose. The problem, in that case, was the SRI.

People had to be willing to take on and debunk the credibility, competence, and honesty of the SRI as much (or more) than debunk Geller. It was the old story -- once established professionals were invested in Geller, it took yeoman's work to flip the script. The SRI's reputation took a monstrous hit, and deservedly so.

Some people said as you just said, but there was no way to debunk Geller without debunking the SRI. Geller, by the way, was about as nasty when challenged as Argentino, but without the rampant racism and homophobia.

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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm

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Originally Posted by MisterV

Redietz, I've no dog in this fight but in the interest of clarity I'll point out that in supporting singer alan does not become singer.

Your fight is with his friend, not with alan, so why not go to GF or wherever else your nemesis is posting these days and go toe to toe with him directly?

Enough with the surrogates.

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If Alan were still a news journalist he would lose his job over his association with Singer.

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We live in a day and age where associations cost. If Alan were in news, he would take the same kind of hit that Stanford Research Institute took regarding their endorsement of Uri Geller. The fight is simply to allow anyone who interacts with Mr. Mendelson in the real world to appreciate the significance of his ongoing support and friendship with someone like Argentino. That requires no sleight of hand -- just some work. The necessary information litters these pages. Let the public judge for themselves if acorns fall far from the tree, in terms of Mr. Mendelson's family and business concerns.