They should put MDawg in charge of the place, after the Wizard finally gives it up. Someone with a pulse for whom they wouldn't have to change the name. Ha.
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They should put MDawg in charge of the place, after the Wizard finally gives it up. Someone with a pulse for whom they wouldn't have to change the name. Ha.
Yeah why not. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gottlob1
Daily members logging on was about 220 when Mdawg started posting. It is now about 100. Some of those quit early in the MDawg saga citing MDawg as the reason.
Why not let it go down to nothing.
I only visit almost daily looking for lilredrooster's sports picks. Although I usually do look to see what fucked up things "the dope" posts as well.
I wonder what sort of behind the scenes machinations the dawg might be up to with the owners of WoV?
The Wiz is only there due to contractual obligation, as when he sold it to the Serbs (or whomever they are) they required he stay involved for awhile.
Gee, might the Wiz's failure to clamp down on and chastise the dawg be a mild form of passive-aggressive behavior directed at the presumably unhappy situation he finds himself in?
Anybody with a brain can see that the decline of that board / exodus of valuable posters has a lot to do with the continued presence of the antagonistic narcissist blowhard Mdawg.
It's like a turd was dropped in the middle of the room and nobody has the balls to grab it and give it the old heave ho.
What is wrong with those people, don't they see what's happening there?
"Clean up on aisle three..."
People leave because he’s a communist who’s against free speech. Indoctrinated by the leftQuote:
Originally Posted by MisterV
You aren't entitled to free speech on private property. Fuckers still haven't learned the 1st amendment properly.
IncorrectQuote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
"Anyone who says 'you can't shout fire! in a crowded theatre' is showing that they don't know much about the principles of free speech, or free speech law—or history," Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression President Greg Lukianoff wrote in 2021. "This old canard, a favorite reference of censorship apologists, needs to be retired. It's repeatedly and inappropriately used to justify speech limitations."
While Alito's mistake is a common one, it is particularly frustrating because, as a Supreme Court Justice, he should know better. The popularity of this myth poses real threats to free speech. "You can't yell 'fire' in a crowded theatre," is often invoked to justify unconstitutional restrictions on speech and to overstate restrictions to the First Amendment. When this myth is adopted by a Supreme Court Justice—no less, the lone dissenter in two recent 8–1 First Amendment cases—it spells danger for our broader cultural understanding of free speech, as well as the values held by those in power.
" The phrase you can’t yell fire in a crowded theater , though an oft-repeated axiom in debates about the First Amendment, is simply not the law of the land now, nor has it ever been—something made all the more apparent when Schenk v. United States was largely overturned in 1969 by Brandenburg v. Ohio.
Try trespassing someone from a business you own for cussing or saying something you don’t like. If I filed that as the reason with the local police department I would be sued into bankruptcy. Now if a patron was threatening a frontline employee I could have them trespassed from my private business.
You left wing indoctrinated mentally ill people have been hurt by words to the point you can’t think logically. It’s why trump short circuited so many of your brains. It reminds you of your high school years were you got bullied, and watched the big dick jocks get all the pussy while you sat home and jacked to porn.
Again with the big cock references...Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
But I digress.
I encourage you to stand up in the middle of a packed theater, in a situation where everybody can see and hear you, and yell "Fire, fire, get the fuck out or we're all gonna die" and see what happens to you.
While it is technically not a crime to yell "Fire," if it results in confusion, stampede and injury then yes, you'll be charged, e.g. with disorderly conduct or even inciting a riot.
Yes, you.can be trespassing for swearing. Give it up Sid the Squid
You prove my point thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by MisterVAgain with the big cock references...Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
But I digress.
I encourage you to stand up in the middle of a packed theater, in a situation where everybody can see and hear you, and yell "Fire, fire, get the fuck out or we're all gonna die" and see what happens to you.
While it is technically not a crime to yell "Fire," if it results in confusion, stampede and injury then yes, you'll be charged, e.g. with disorderly conduct or even inciting a riot.
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Originally Posted by jbjb
You own nothing and most likely never ran a business in your life. So you know nothing. Get back to when you do.
We can even test it. I send someone to your place of business and cuss. You file the appropriate paper work saying you trespassed the person because he cusses, and that offends you. Not falsifiable accuse the person of disorderly conduct. You see accusations of disorderly conduct are exactly what fag ass casino do. They make up shit but under discovery if you go the distance they lose if no disorderly conduct was witnessed. Same for small businesses but keep thinking you know whatS up.
O and same bet stands with you if you want to say I’m some guy from a board I have no idea about. I’m original not a fucking imposter.
You almost had yourself a socially-acceptable post. Then, as usual, you couldn't help yourself by lying at the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJYeah why not. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Gottlob1
Daily members logging on was about 220 when Mdawg started posting. It is now about 100. Some of those quit early in the MDawg saga citing MDawg as the reason.
Why not let it go down to nothing.
I only visit almost daily looking for lilredrooster's sports picks. Although I usually do look to see what fucked up things "the dope" posts as well.
Jbjb and keystone are the real toll brothers lol
You're welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seedvalue
I'd call it "qualified free speech" if you want to be clear about it.
Actually, there is no free speech at all in private businesses. You can eject/trespass someone because you simply don't like them.
The only exception comes from federally protected discrimination categories. You cannot kick someone out of your business because they're black, gay, Jewish, female, trans, etc. Age is a bit more tricky (for example, a nightclub might be able to defend only letting in young and attractive people), but a place like a casino could never kick you out simply for being too old.
Speech is also not protected in private businesses. If I walk into a business owned by a left wing Democrat, and start telling people why they should vote for Trump, the owner can legally kick me out, even if I'm not creating a disturbance, and even if the people I'm talking to are happy to listen.
Seedvalue is partially correct with the "yelling fire in a crowded theater" example. It's true that it is NOT expressly illegal to yell "fire" in a crowded theater. For example, if there's an actual fire, it is legal to do so. You also can yell "fire" if you have good reason to believe there might be a fire, even if it turns out you're wrong or misunderstood something. The other problem with the "yelling fire in a theater" example is that it doesn't apply to free speech, since free speech never exists in a private business, which a theater would usually be.
A better example would be the inability to yell "he's got a bomb!" in a crowded gathering in a public space outdoors. If there is no bomb, and you have no good reason to believe there's a bomb, you could be charged with disorderly conduct.
There is free speech. People can eject you yes, but you are free to say what you wish. You will not be arrested for what you say unless it is vulgar or deemed disorderly conduct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
These are 2 separate issues.
Freedom of speech in relation to America is strictly that the government doesn't tell people what they can and can't say. THe modern "conservative" seems to have this completely flipped. They seem to think Twitter should be forced to publish everything.
You're free to speak you're just not free to remain on someone's property.
This new take on "free speech" is really a peeve of mine.
The free speech that I am used to hearing about it the same freedom of speech that people sue government officials (cops) over. Government employees are largely indemnified to lawsuits but under certain circumstances if they violate your free speech (typically freedom of press) then they can be sued for breaking your Constitutional rights. Basically "freedom of speech" just means the government can't tell us what we can and can't say. Nothing more. (in my world).
Conservatives don't believe X should publish everything. They demand that conservative opinion not be censored while wide open progressive opinion goes uncensored. It was a violation of freedom of speech for them to do that. And the government had no business making the old guard at Twitter censor conservative speech.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionThere is free speech. People can eject you yes, but you are free to say what you wish. You will not be arrested for what you say unless it is vulgar or deemed disorderly conduct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
These are 2 separate issues.
Freedom of speech in relation to America is strictly that the government doesn't tell people what they can and can't say. THe modern "conservative" seems to have this completely flipped. They seem to think Twitter should be forced to publish everything.
You're free to speak you're just not free to remain on someone's property.
This new take on "free speech" is really a peeve of mine.
The free speech that I am used to hearing about it the same freedom of speech that people sue government officials (cops) over. Government employees are largely indemnified to lawsuits but under certain circumstances if they violate your free speech (typically freedom of press) then they can be sued for breaking your Constitutional rights. Basically "freedom of speech" just means the government can't tell us what we can and can't say. Nothing more. (in my world).
That what gets me about you libs. You ignore the corruption of the left.
With all due respect this just is not correct. I cannot throw you out of any business I own for saying words I don’t like unless you are threatening someone. Could you get away with it ? Yes because no one is going to file a lawsuit to get back into some random retail place. Could it be different from state to state ? Probably but if I come in, and say I like trump wearing a maga hat you can’t trespass me from Druffs Dongs and bongs Legally. I would win a lawsuit if I can prove that was the reason. Of course you are going to put on the form filed with the local police I was causing a disturbance, and 99.9 percent of people won’t sue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Yes you can be charged with disorderly conduct for yelling Bomb or Fire if it causes a disturbance. But if I yell fire and zero people move you can’t just make up a disorderly conduct charge. S
Yes you can dipshit.
No you can’t 20 spotQuote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
You could not be more wrong. You can throw someone out of your business for any reason as long as the reasons don't have anything to do with them being in one of the protected classes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeedvalueWith all due respect this just is not correct. I cannot throw you out of any business I own for saying words I don’t like unless you are threatening someone. Could you get away with it ? Yes because no one is going to file a lawsuit to get back into some random retail place. Could it be different from state to state ? Probably but if I come in, and say I like trump wearing a maga hat you can’t trespass me from Druffs Dongs and bongs Legally. I would win a lawsuit if I can prove that was the reason. Of course you are going to put on the form filed with the local police I was causing a disturbance, and 99.9 percent of people won’t sue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Druff
Yes you can be charged with disorderly conduct for yelling Bomb or Fire if it causes a disturbance. But if I yell fire and zero people move you can’t just make up a disorderly conduct charge. S
How have you guys gotten this shit so wrong?
The government doesn't FORCE you to put up with someone. The freedom aspect works in the property owner's favor more than not in this situation.
This is crazy. Where do you people even get this stuff?