It's not Singer's $1.2 million, but it will have to suffice

I've never seen 9/7/5 UX Double Bonus. The game would have to be around 100% because the 9/6/5 listed on Wizard of Odds is 99.04. Wizard also has the strategies for these games. But he doesn't have 9/7/5 listed. He's showing 9/6/5 as the best payscale.

Looking at the strategy, the 9/6/5 UX DB strategy is almost the same as single line 10/7/5 DB strategy.

So if you have a 9/7/5 version of the game then you are going to be holding 3 card flushes whether they have 1 or 2 high cards in them.

https://wizardofodds.com/games/video...es/ultimate-x/

Links to the strategies are at the bottom of the page.

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I've never seen 9/7/5 UX Double Bonus. The game would have to be around 100% because the 9/6/5 listed on Wizard of Odds is 99.04. Wizard also has the strategies for these games. But he doesn't have 9/7/5 listed. He's showing 9/6/5 as the best payscale.

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He does list 9/7/5 DB on the UX single-line page (Five Star Poker machines), indicated at 99.21%. But I don't know how he arrives at that number because he doesn't list the multipliers. Usually on single-line, the straight multiplier is cut from 8 to 7. But imo a further major cut is needed to achieve 99.21. Maybe the FH is cut from 12 to 11.

Seems like the designers regretted the big EV boosts they gave for playing the max-bet bonus. Generally the newer game designs give only a small enticement to play the bonus.

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Nice find (probably had to scout a lot of screens to find that one) and hit. How come you ten-coined it ?

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You can bet he was on a CZR property. And taking a shortcut to Diamond Elite status.

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Yes.

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This reminds me of the time I and a vulturing partner/friend found a Golden Egypt at $187.50 per spin with columns 1 and 3 wild for the next spin and with the screen showing that reels 1 and 3 had been wild for the last spin. What I assumed happened is that the person who generated the play got so excited about the hand pay that they forgot to play off the 2nd of two wild spins. It was like finding $1800 on the ground.

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NOICE!
Sounds similar to the way it was when I got to Vegas.
You could literally make 80k, in cash, per year, with no risk, playing quarter video poker.
Of course, not so much for guys like you and redietz, who always report all earned income, to The Man.

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Definitely a needle in a haystack these days.

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You can bet he was on a CZR property. And taking a shortcut to Diamond Elite status.

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Yes.

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I'm lost as usual.

I wasn't aware of a tier credit multiplier in Vegas, although Monday the 20th would be a reasonable start date if they did a midweek going into Thanksgiving.

He wasn't vulturing multipliers.

He insta-quit after the jackpot, so I doubt he was playing to a particular TC target.

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You can bet he was on a CZR property. And taking a shortcut to Diamond Elite status.

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Yes.

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I'm lost as usual.

I wasn't aware of a tier credit multiplier in Vegas, although Monday the 20th would be a reasonable start date if they did a midweek going into Thanksgiving.

He wasn't vulturing multipliers.

He insta-quit after the jackpot, so I doubt he was playing to a particular TC target.

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Worse!
He quit and didn't play off all the 4x multipliers :(

Or even worse!!
They tricked him and blanked his screen wiping all the multipliers away :(
THE HORROR!!

Or even better?
They tricked him and changed the game because they knew he would quit.
And after he left, they had their confederate scoop up all the free money!

I was wondering if this guy lurking in the reflection was waiting to swoop in and play off the multipliers or maybe he was just waiting to use the exercise equipment they keep in VP high limit rooms?

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I've never seen 9/7/5 UX Double Bonus. The game would have to be around 100% because the 9/6/5 listed on Wizard of Odds is 99.04. Wizard also has the strategies for these games. But he doesn't have 9/7/5 listed. He's showing 9/6/5 as the best payscale.

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He does list 9/7/5 DB on the UX single-line page (Five Star Poker machines), indicated at 99.21%. But I don't know how he arrives at that number because he doesn't list the multipliers. Usually on single-line, the straight multiplier is cut from 8 to 7. But imo a further major cut is needed to achieve 99.21. Maybe the FH is cut from 12 to 11.

Seems like the designers regretted the big EV boosts they gave for playing the max-bet bonus. Generally the newer game designs give only a small enticement to play the bonus.

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It looks to me that 9/7/5 exists at single line but not multi-line. I don't think Wiz would have overlooked it. Also, the payback for single line is lower than multi-line. Wiz has 8/6 Jacks single line at 98.57% but 99.4% on multi-line.

Hmmm...the faint image does sort of look like Todd.

Compare the two.

[QUOTE=MisterV;168081]Hmmm...the faint image does sort of look like Todd.

Compare the two.

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Nah, already thought of that. Its not him.

Plus he is the one taking the picture. How could he be sitting in front of the machine taking a picture on his phone to post here & also be way off to the side in the background looking on?

I think it's Rob's son....

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[Nah, already thought of that. Its not him. Plus he is the one taking the picture. How could he be sitting in front of the machine taking a picture on his phone to post here & also be way off to the side in the background looking on?

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Good point.

Also how can it be real without accompanying pics of guns and (fake) cash?

Had to blow it way up but solved it. It’s quite obviously Jimmy Hoffa.

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Had to blow it way up but solved it. It’s quite obviously Jimmy Hoffa.

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Yes I see it! Perfect reference for the senior-citizen demographic here :D.

I thought it was durrrr wanting to play Druff heads up 4 rollz:

Very good!

It could always be Christopher Mitchell too, the number 1 professional gambler and gambling consultant in the world.

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I was wondering if this guy lurking in the reflection was waiting to swoop in and play off the multipliers or maybe he was just waiting to use the exercise equipment they keep in VP high limit rooms?

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Maybe it's Singer trying to take a picture of his own?

Lots of funny stuff being released by the little people who are nervous over the growing realization that what I posted wasn't "fake". And I understand the desire to believe the cash in the safe is prop stuff---I really do!

But how about this: where is the proof this was hit by Dan....why no stupid comments, demands for more details, and all these other things envious posters dream up? And don't be saying "well gee whiz Rob, Dan is our administrator, a professional poker player, and a gosh darn stand-up kinda guy!" He's also an expert with computers, he's been caught in several lies, and he NEEDS gaming forum cred. Plus he plays online poker, and Jewish people are taking it in the chops these days. Nuff said?

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I was wondering if this guy lurking in the reflection was waiting to swoop in and play off the multipliers or maybe he was just waiting to use the exercise equipment they keep in VP high limit rooms?

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Maybe it's Singer trying to take a picture of his own?

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Typical of those who struggle with facts they don't like. Every criticism and twisted claim any of you have ever said or made was just made up and proven wrong.

My win wasn't in a "high limit room". It was in a near-private location I requested they set the play up in in order to reduce or not have any onlookers. I realize most of you idiots have zero experience with ultra high limit vp play and will never be able to get involved with it, so further explanations and insults will just waste my time.

And wise up.

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You can bet he was on a CZR property. And taking a shortcut to Diamond Elite status.

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I'm lost as usual.

I wasn't aware of a tier credit multiplier in Vegas, although Monday the 20th would be a reasonable start date if they did a midweek going into Thanksgiving.

He wasn't vulturing multipliers.

He insta-quit after the jackpot, so I doubt he was playing to a particular TC target.

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Historically, Dan has posted that he often uses video poker to advance his rewards card levels at various properties (full pay jacks or better for example) in situations where the coin-in and RTP are advantageous for racking up tier points. In this case, he is using UX Double Bonus Poker to advance his points almost certainly because this particular game has a good pay table and rate of tier point accumulation versus coin-in. He decided, after such an amazing hit, to relax and enjoy the win - perhaps resuming his card advancement at some later time. That's all that Mickey was posting about. My first post in this thread was just a joke - I knew that Dan did not vulture this play (and inexplicably bet 10 coins instead of 5 on the vultured play).

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I was wondering if this guy lurking in the reflection was waiting to swoop in and play off the multipliers or maybe he was just waiting to use the exercise equipment they keep in VP high limit rooms?

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Perhaps he was going to perform both actions. Maybe getting in a good workout while waiting for Dan (and the brass) to leave so he could take down that juicy play.