I don't know that MDawg would dispute that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
Why then did you refer to his trip reports as fantasy stories not to be believed?
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I don't know that MDawg would dispute that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
Why then did you refer to his trip reports as fantasy stories not to be believed?
I would suggest people step back and understand that "coach belly" is a fictional character trying to get other fictional characters to admit that the other fictional characters view the exploits of a fictional character as fiction and are therefore calling the fictional character a "liar."
LOL. Coach, why don't you post your actual name and stuff so some of your arguments are less absurd?
I have health issues, Coach. We don't have baccarat in Montana and I can't travel for now. The closest bac I know of is in Nevada. But you and Blackhole shouldn't have any trouble finding a bac game. I'm looking forward to your trip reports. It'll give me something to do while I'm shut in.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyYou can mimic MDawg too. So why don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
All that winning and comps. Piece of cake. You just need to vary your bets and follow the streaks like MDawg does.
I don't have a problem with that...hasn't he been experiencing and reporting chance results so far? What other results should Baccarat produce if not chance results?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Are you implying that he has not been reporting chance results in this thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I have posted my actual name, and (as you have pointed out) even posted my SS# .Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
So when everybody else posts their real name, then we can circle back and I'll post mine again.
Shall I make a list ?
I'll save most of it for some blog articles and such.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
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Originally Posted by coach bellyI have posted my actual name, and (as you have pointed out) even posted my SS# .Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
So when everybody else posts their real name, then we can circle back and I'll post mine again.
Shall I make a list ?
I don't have your social or your actual name, coach. As I recall, somebody else first alerted you to you having made a possible posting faux pas. I vaguely remember recommending you pull the post.
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Originally Posted by coach bellyI don't have a problem with that...hasn't he been experiencing and reporting chance results so far? What other results should Baccarat produce if not chance results?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Are you implying that he has not been reporting chance results in this thread?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
"Chance results" has a statistical meaning, coach. Best to take one of those probability courses I've recommended to you on many occasions. Jesus, surely you can afford to blow the forty bucks.
I mean, what's your deal, coach? You know nothing about sports gambling, and try to play gotcha. You display no knowledge of probability, but feel obligated to chime in. Why don't you take up brain surgery or octopus fishing instead of gambling?
Nope. Mission didn't do any math showing the vast majority of time a player will be ahead at some point in a session of video poker or baccarat. You see, it can't be done. No mathematician in history has been able to write that equation. You just can't pull it off in these kind of negative expectation games.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyMission did the math and confirmed this earlier on this forum, in response to my questioning about VP.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Search through his posting history and you'll find it.
I'm assuming if it applies to VP, then it applies to Bac as well, since they are both card games.
But, not sure my assumption is correct.
I can't take a probability course right now, but just now I searched online for a definition of "chance results" and couldn't find any.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
My deal is a search for information and truth.
That's why I always ask questions...I'm looking for answers.
You're either not willing nor able to answer my questions, while others are.
So what's your deal? Why don't you just butt out?
If you must know I was trying to warn anyone who may be somewhat gullible.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyI don't know that MDawg would dispute that.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
Why then did you refer to his trip reports as fantasy stories not to be believed?
What I have written most certainly is the truth. If you say otherwise, YOU are the liar coach belly. And it is all still preserved on this forum for anyone who wants to look for themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyWhat you have written above is an outright fabrication of the events that took place...you are a known and proven liar, and you are lying about this incident as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
intentionally blurry?...that's total bullshit...post the linkQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
coach belly wrote:
"I can't take a probability course right now, but just now I searched online for a definition of "chance results" and couldn't find any.
My deal is a search for information and truth.
That's why I always ask questions...I'm looking for answers."
mickeycrimm wrote:
"Nope. Mission didn't do any math showing the vast majority of time a player will be ahead at some point in a session of video poker or baccarat. You see, it can't be done. No mathematician in history has been able to write that equation. You just can't pull it off in these kind of negative expectation games."
coach belly, that is all you need for a real good start. Sometimes the truth hurts.
There's a little more to this. First, I know of no overall equation that defines how often a player can be ahead when discussing individual VP sessions. There's many different games, and multiple ways to play each game.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmNope. Mission didn't do any math showing the vast majority of time a player will be ahead at some point in a session of video poker or baccarat. You see, it can't be done. No mathematician in history has been able to write that equation. You just can't pull it off in these kind of negative expectation games.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyMission did the math and confirmed this earlier on this forum, in response to my questioning about VP.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Search through his posting history and you'll find it.
I'm assuming if it applies to VP, then it applies to Bac as well, since they are both card games.
But, not sure my assumption is correct.
However, for an article I did in Gaming Today I did take a look at how often (session-wise) a player is ahead minimum 5 credits playing BP in a 6-level progression with $10,000 ($1/$2/$5/$10/$25/$100). It came out to between 95%-96% of the sessions. I played a lot of sessions but can't remember the number. I also made money on it, but not anything earth-shaking.
I also don't know a thing about how table games would fare. But I caution: this guy Mdawg wouldn't be posting pictures of money, a rolex, markers etc. and blabbing about winning every single time, Hawaii trips, a skinny wife, lifting weights, being some high-powered "LA businessman" and how many comps he gets ALL THIS TIME CURIOUSLY WITHOUT PICTURES if he weren't seriously lacking in the self-confidence that SHOULD come with such claims if they were anything close to being true.
We're being punked by a doofus.
Non-stop bs. It was all said when you chickened out of meeting up with Alan to prove a real time ability to do your stoopid counting of two tables. Any blurry pics taken by Alan are irrelevant. I did the same trial with a pit boss overnight with no players at the Peppermill. Your head would have to constantly be turned towards the 2nd table in order not to miss any cards---and that's assuming no obstructions or cards not clearly visible, which is most.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJWhat I have written most certainly is the truth. If you say otherwise, YOU are the liar coach belly. And it is all still preserved on this forum for anyone who wants to look for themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach bellyWhat you have written above is an outright fabrication of the events that took place...you are a known and proven liar, and you are lying about this incident as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
In short, it's just another of your phony internet fabrications that's gotten you banned from multiple forums.
Wise up.
mickeycrimm wrote:
"Nope. Mission didn't do any math showing the vast majority of time a player will be ahead at some point in a session of video poker or baccarat. You see, it can't be done. "
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Originally Posted by BoSox
My recollection is that Mission reached a similar conclusion, for a session of flat-betting 1000 hands of >97% VP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
MDawg didn't make any mathematical representation of his "vast majority" claim, it was anecdotal from his experience.
I'm not a math guy, but I've written an equation.
Post an end of the Bell Curve set of results. + Attribute this to something that doesn't logically explain these results. = Controversy and exploding heads.
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Originally Posted by Rob.SingerNon-stop bs. It was all said when you chickened out of meeting up with Alan to prove a real time ability to do your stoopid counting of two tables. Any blurry pics taken by Alan are irrelevant. I did the same trial with a pit boss overnight with no players at the Peppermill. Your head would have to constantly be turned towards the 2nd table in order not to miss any cards---and that's assuming no obstructions or cards not clearly visible, which is most.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJWhat I have written most certainly is the truth. If you say otherwise, YOU are the liar coach belly. And it is all still preserved on this forum for anyone who wants to look for themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by coach belly
In short, it's just another of your phony internet fabrications that's gotten you banned from multiple forums.
Wise up.
Good lord, Rob. You miss the point. Why do you feel it necessary to blather pseudo-expertise at things you know nothing about? I know just about zero regarding blackjack, but it's a helluva lot more than you.
You don't have to see every card or even most cards to generate a count. All counts are partial counts. Any count you have at any table has explanatory value.
I have lousy eyes. I can see the cards at most adjoining tables. The cards you do not see are not part of the partial counts.
What's the mystery? KewlJ has explained this stuff to you ad nauseum, and you refuse to acknowledge it. That doesn't make you correct. If you were correct, you would have tracked down a blackjack expert or a pit boss and quoted them about how impossible this is while quoting sources.
You haven't done that. Everybody knows why you haven't done that.
P.S. By the way, Gaming Today had some exceptionally well written pieces the last two weeks. They must have a new editor or team of editors or they are just hiring better writers. It's really noticeable.
Keep the stories and pictures coming MDawg. You’re bringing out all the envious jealous self-proclaimed alleged AP’s from the cracks of the concrete. There pretending your posts don’t bother them but believe me, you’re putting all of them into a tail-spin.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Mickeycrimm thinks he’s special on these sites after up-grading his life to a two-bit AP slot hustler, after being a homeless alcoholic traveling the hobo routes jumping on vacant trains and camping out in the woods. He deserves a lot of credit since he improved his lifestyle to hopefully quitting drinking, getting a roof over his head, a car, and a few pesos in the bank. Sadly, I believe the running around he does year-round trying to hustle 2-bit slots gave him some present serious heart conditions. He has a thread somewhere here showing pictures of him traveling all over the place.
You’ll notice he always makes sure to attack my ass on this forum. Simply because I’m not an AP and never was and doubt most the bullshit he and others like Kewlj print here. He also realizes I could buy and sell his 2-bit ass like scrap metal and it drives him crazy.
I’ve posted many stories about my gambling days and it drives that skumbag insane. He realizes his pathetic lifestyle is like tip money to me. His entire bankroll couldn’t cover the landscaping done at any one of my homes.
Sadly, he really thinks he’s special like most AP’s because of what they do, and wants in the worst way to be recognized, and this is one of the only places he could do that.
MDawg, did you know Mickcrimm was interviewed twice on Gambling with An Edge? That’s like winning the Noble Peace Prize on these forums. If you want to know what I’m talking about, pull one of those interviews up I guess on You-Tube. If not, maybe Micky could give you a link. Anyone of those two interviews should be enough to convince you to stop your present ways and try to duplicate his.
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In Stanford Wong's classic "Professional Blackjack" he claimed he could pick up a count on a nearby table by looking at the reflection on the mirrored ceilings that covered up the EITS.
I took a look when I was playing aggressively. I'm not claiming I did it or could do it but I could see how it could be done. I don't doubt that a person with greater skills than I had could do it or that he could do it.
I think he was trying to find a table on the first or 2nd round that showed a running count of maybe +5. Then he would move over to that table and see if in the next couple rounds more low cards came out.
And then if the TC was high enough to give him an advantage he "wonged" in.
Wasilla, I am not a math guy either. But here is the problem: some of these guy are math defiers. Math matters. Almost everything in life comes down to math. And everything in gambling is about math.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasilla
So is it possible to defy the math and win playing -EV game? Of course! That is what gambling is about. But to do so over and over and over gets into twilight zone territory. And that is what some of these guys claim. And it is the same guys making these impossible claims again and again and again. And let's be clear....when something has a 1 in several hundred million chance of something...i call that impossible.
Now APs, whether professional, semi-pro or recreational live by the math. And when we point out that these claims are impossible (by my definition), we are met with personal attacks. It's simply alternative reality stuff. That's what this forum and the math defies that dominate it are about.
Are you sure you read that in wongs book half smoke?Quote:
Originally Posted by Half Smoke
I have relayed a very similar story from my days back in Atlantic City. The old Sands had fairly low mirrored ceilings and it was rather easy to look up and see the cards from the table directly across the pit. The trick was to be reading the pips and paint rather than actual numbers.
Interestingly after I have recounted that experience there have been 2 other long time counters that shared that they also had done so at times at that same location. So it would not surprise me if Wong had done so, I just don't remember reading that.
He is the one that convinced me that picking up the count at ANY point had value.
Very good Redietz. Every count IS a partial count. That is the short of it and that is what someone like Rob refuses to believe and is unable to grasp.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
It also is why the higher level counts don't add as much power as higher level count proponents think and argue....but that is a different discussion. :rolleyes:
Oh and by the way Rob can't locate any legitimate players to argue his position. But I have 5 professional players, 3 of them in the blackjack hall of fame that have gone on record saying that they have at times, when conditions were favorable to do so, tracked a second table.
What an idiot. Ask any counter if they'd play at a table where "most cards" played aren't able to be counted. And you're right--you know less than nothing about bj. Also unfortunate for you is when kew lied about being able to count two tables simultaneously, he said he could do it accurately enuf to have an edge. Then when challenged he started the mother of all walk-backs. The Joe Biden of bj claims. Maybe you missed that.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerNon-stop bs. It was all said when you chickened out of meeting up with Alan to prove a real time ability to do your stoopid counting of two tables. Any blurry pics taken by Alan are irrelevant. I did the same trial with a pit boss overnight with no players at the Peppermill. Your head would have to constantly be turned towards the 2nd table in order not to miss any cards---and that's assuming no obstructions or cards not clearly visible, which is most.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
In short, it's just another of your phony internet fabrications that's gotten you banned from multiple forums.
Wise up.
Good lord, Rob. You miss the point. Why do you feel it necessary to blather pseudo-expertise at things you know nothing about? I know just about zero regarding blackjack, but it's a helluva lot more than you.
You don't have to see every card or even most cards to generate a count. All counts are partial counts. Any count you have at any table has explanatory value.
I have lousy eyes. I can see the cards at most adjoining tables. The cards you do not see are not part of the partial counts.
What's the mystery? KewlJ has explained this stuff to you ad nauseum, and you refuse to acknowledge it. That doesn't make you correct. If you were correct, you would have tracked down a blackjack expert or a pit boss and quoted them about how impossible this is while quoting sources.
You haven't done that. Everybody knows why you haven't done that.
Weird. Just plain weird.
And I know 3 other "HoFers" who have gone on record claiming they can accurately at times count THREE tables at once. So go ahead andprove yours and I'll prove mine....of course, after you finish pumping redietz from behind.....Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
What planet do you live on Rob? Almost nothing you say is even close to true any more. :rolleyes:
Is this what old age is to you? Just telling lie after lie with no regard for truth? I guess it is that and waiting for someone to change your diaper. How exciting it must be to be you.
You can always tell when I get under brokeassblackhole's skin. His fictitious posts get extra nasty. That's because he's a bitter old bustout. Dude never could keep a bankroll and is jealous of anyone that can.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholeKeep the stories and pictures coming MDawg. You’re bringing out all the envious jealous self-proclaimed alleged AP’s from the cracks of the concrete. There pretending your posts don’t bother them but believe me, you’re putting all of them into a tail-spin.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Mickeycrimm thinks he’s special on these sites after up-grading his life to a two-bit AP slot hustler, after being a homeless alcoholic traveling the hobo routes jumping on vacant trains and camping out in the woods. He deserves a lot of credit since he improved his lifestyle to hopefully quitting drinking, getting a roof over his head, a car, and a few pesos in the bank. Sadly, I believe the running around he does year-round trying to hustle 2-bit slots gave him some present serious heart conditions. He has a thread somewhere here showing pictures of him traveling all over the place.
You’ll notice he always makes sure to attack my ass on this forum. Simply because I’m not an AP and never was and doubt most the bullshit he and others like Kewlj print here. He also realizes I could buy and sell his 2-bit ass like scrap metal and it drives him crazy.
I’ve posted many stories about my gambling days and it drives that skumbag insane. He realizes his pathetic lifestyle is like tip money to me. His entire bankroll couldn’t cover the landscaping done at any one of my homes.
Sadly, he really thinks he’s special like most AP’s because of what they do, and wants in the worst way to be recognized, and this is one of the only places he could do that.
MDawg, did you know Mickcrimm was interviewed twice on Gambling with An Edge? That’s like winning the Noble Peace Prize on these forums. If you want to know what I’m talking about, pull one of those interviews up I guess on You-Tube. If not, maybe Micky could give you a link. Anyone of those two interviews should be enough to convince you to stop your present ways and try to duplicate his.
I spend more on breakfast than you've ever made in a week, brokeassblackhole. Cheer up. Tomorrow is a new month and you get your food stamps again. What's your favorite? Top Ramen? Well, might not be your favorite, just the one you have to eat the most.
Hey how's things down at the soup line? That's where you and your gambling buddies hang, right? Slurp that soup, bitch.
Now, if you just had it in you to follow in MDawgs footsteps you could get off the welfare. Just vary your bets and play the streaks. Quit all your sniveling and get to it. You just might make enough to finally buy some dentures, you toothless fuck.
The cards played are just part of the deck, not the whole deck. Hence, it's a partial count.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.SingerWhat an idiot. Ask any counter if they'd play at a table where "most cards" played aren't able to be counted. And you're right--you know less than nothing about bj. Also unfortunate for you is when kew lied about being able to count two tables simultaneously, he said he could do it accurately enuf to have an edge. Then when challenged he started the mother of all walk-backs. The Joe Biden of bj claims. Maybe you missed that.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Good lord, Rob. You miss the point. Why do you feel it necessary to blather pseudo-expertise at things you know nothing about? I know just about zero regarding blackjack, but it's a helluva lot more than you.
You don't have to see every card or even most cards to generate a count. All counts are partial counts. Any count you have at any table has explanatory value.
I have lousy eyes. I can see the cards at most adjoining tables. The cards you do not see are not part of the partial counts.
What's the mystery? KewlJ has explained this stuff to you ad nauseum, and you refuse to acknowledge it. That doesn't make you correct. If you were correct, you would have tracked down a blackjack expert or a pit boss and quoted them about how impossible this is while quoting sources.
You haven't done that. Everybody knows why you haven't done that.
Weird. Just plain weird.
Baccarat tournament:
This is the chip start at the initial table:
https://i.imgur.com/EPzqv0Ql.jpg
I came in first place at the first table and made it to the semifinals
https://i.imgur.com/km7fBsKl.jpg
but came in only second place at the semi finals table - so I did not advance to the finals.
That's the bad news. It was exciting though.
The GOOD news is that before the tournament I played a mere three shoes, and again, barely betting, won $14,100.
https://i.imgur.com/bInfr74l.jpg
I had some ups and downs towards the beginning of the first shoe, but once I got to $2K ahead it was smooooooth Billll all the way up.
Interestingly, at my table where four of us played, two of us won, one broke even, and one lost...simply because the other two did not follow my bet spread. I won more than anyone else at my table. I was the big player at that table tonight.
But speaking of big players, the fat guy I saw last night who was down something like $40K and came back to leave ahead something like $10K ahead last night has kept winning. He's betting crazily and was up $340,000. last I saw him. Slobby, fat guy, no jewelry, poorly dressed with a fat unattractive wife, winning big. I get the feeling by how nervous he was when he was down forty last night that the money really means something to him. Good for him, beat the house for all you can!
My total ahead now is pushing thirty grand for the trip. I cashed the yellows and the black chip, two grand at the high limit pit cashier and 2100 at the main cage, no questions asked, and now have three flags stashed away to deal with at the end of the trip.
https://i.imgur.com/hK6W8KBl.jpg
By the way, and doubt this will mean anything to any of you, but I discussed with one of the dealers how to "read" the doughnuts, hamburgers and french fries on the video Bacc screen, and apparently there is an alternate way to read them that anticipates the next hand versus simply looking at what color it is now. Interestingly, last night my friend who lives at Encore texted me about how he had been reading them wrong. I didn't understand what he meant last night, but I do now. However, those predictors may mean nothing or they may mean everything, just depends on the shoe. I was just lucky enough to cut shoes - I cut them myself and the other players were insisting that I do the cutting since I was doing so well - where the patterns were discernible and we got several great bank and player runs. There was no need to move - I just kept winning at the same table. Really nice.
A different fat guy (not the one up $340K) beat me at the semifinals tables and won the entire tournament. It must be their night. The night of the fat boys! Well, more power to them, sock it to the casino!
I got take out Hattie B's again for dinner, including one box for one of the female dealers at my table tonight that I dropped off for her on the way back up to the suite.
It's slutty girl night at the Cosmo, they're all over da place trying to rustle up attention. Sorry I don't have any pics of that for you, but taking pics of random scantily clad betties is not my thing. You'll just have to take my word for it on this one.
Hi KJ. I really am not disagreeing with anything you say. When I say "impossible" I'm pretty much indicating that I would bet my life or yours against it, so I don't use the word a lot. We would probably still bet our money on the same side of how truthful claims are. I believe that my equation works whether the claim is actually true or not. I recently claimed to have won 10,000 credits over a 13 hour video poker session. Sure they were only quarters, but that's a decent amount of credits. If you're a VP player, you've probably seen, heard about, or lived this story. Do you believe me though? If I claim that I was able to win that day because I played + EV games, had an adequate bankroll, and was able to play through a bad bout of variance before finally having a great day? Perhaps you do. If, however, I tell you that won because of some mystical connection to the machine or some betting strategy? No fucking way do you believe me. Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJWasilla, I am not a math guy either. But here is the problem: some of these guy are math defiers. Math matters. Almost everything in life comes down to math. And everything in gambling is about math.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasilla
So is it possible to defy the math and win playing -EV game? Of course! That is what gambling is about. But to do so over and over and over gets into twilight zone territory. And that is what some of these guys claim. And it is the same guys making these impossible claims again and again and again. And let's be clear....when something has a 1 in several hundred million chance of something...i call that impossible.
Now APs, whether professional, semi-pro or recreational live by the math. And when we point out that these claims are impossible (by my definition), we are met with personal attacks. It's simply alternative reality stuff. That's what this forum and the math defies that dominate it are about.
I haven't played BJ for 20 years, but I can assure everyone that counts are partial counts. Counters work with the cards they are able to see. Obviously seeing more cards is better. Obviously counters make betting decisions when a high percentage of cards have not been seen. I am pretty sure I am only stating the obvious here. It really seems that some of the positions that are taken on this forum are pretty disingenuous. I really don't understand the purpose of this. If you don't already know, you could learn with an open mind. If you don't want to learn, what's your goal?
I read MDawg's adventures because I think he is an actual rich guy that grew up with money talking about how guys who grew up with money live. If that part isn't true, it seems a great fictional portrayal. So I like the read MDawg whether it is true or not.
I REALLY wish that some of the rest of you would do your own threads (yes I'm looking at you Mickeycrimm among many others). This would be a fascinating site if you guys bothered to tell your stories. I gather that Dan's an IT guy, so maybe he would agree to bar anyone from a thread they were insisting on derailing. I don't know a lot of people here, but I already know that I want to here about Mickey, Axelwolf, Monet, KewlJ, Maxpen, redietz, and I even want to hear about zen king's typical weeks instead of just his rants. I'm sure there are other people here with exceptional stories worth telling. It seems like this site settles for a lot of trolling, but you guys would have an audience if you wanted.
You can always tell when I get under brokeassblackhole's skin. His fictitious posts get extra nasty. That's because he's a bitter old bustout. Dude never could keep a bankroll and is jealous of anyone that can.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhole
I spend more on breakfast than you've ever made in a week, brokeassblackhole. Cheer up. Tomorrow is a new month and you get your food stamps again. What's your favorite? Top Ramen? Well, might not be your favorite, just the one you have to eat the most.
Hey how's things down at the soup line? That's where you and your gambling buddies hang, right? Slurp that soup, bitch.
Now, if you just had it in you to follow in MDawgs footsteps you could get off the welfare. Just vary your bets and play the streaks. Quit all your sniveling and get to it. You just might make enough to finally buy some dentures, you toothless fuck.[/QUOTE]
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Jump in there and get your feet wet, brokeassblackhole. MDawg just made another post showing how easy it is. What, are you chickenshit? Just think about all that money. All that comp. All you have to do is imitate MDawg's strategy. Piece of cake. In no time you'll be giving trip reports with pics of all the money and the comped suites. So easy even a dimwit like you can do it.
This should help put in perspective where Mickycrimm is coming from. (If you could stomach it for any length.) There are a couple more of these same type interviews with him, which also should give you an idea of how desperate that clown show needs someone to talk to. He got all kinds of kudos for this from the rest of the ass clowns on this site.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYXvj5bhyW0
If you think that interview was pathetic, here's a more recent one. You just can't make this stuff up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOf6Jm_nEsA
I listened to them and I am a fan. Micky and I disagree about a lot but the guy has had an interesting life. I've had jobs and if I had continued down that path I'd been easily making 6 figures a year. For what? To buy a bunch of shit so I can convince myself wasting my life away in an office is worth it?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhole
My life is full of interesting crap. I've only been to 1 superbowl party viewing thing and the few people there lost over half a million. I wont go to em anymore. Dont want to jinx people. Last year I smoked weed with a daughter of one of the wealthiest Americans .. dad worth well over 50 billion. Yet I've still been basically broke most of my life. I have endless weird stories. Who wants a dipshit corporate job if one has a soul?
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
yeah, I remember him writing that too, but I don't really get it.
let's say 6 decks. the dealer cuts off 2. then you come by and start counting after 2 decks have been played.
so now, there are double the no. of unseen, uncounted cards
it's basically the same as if you started the shoe and the dealer cut 4 of the 6 decks out of play
nobody who knows what they were doing would play in such a game (and the house would never offer it because it would cut the hands per hour by so much, but that's besides the point)
so, I totally don't get it
unless he was only referring to double deck games - but I don't remember him writing that - but if that's what he meant then that would make sense - otherwise not, to me anyway
When I used to jump my bet all the way to table max, and for whatever reason it always worked for me (which is what led to the ban), I mean seriously I wasn't losing a single table max bet, was that I would BOTH look for a positive (true) count and I would wait until I had both a great count in my favor AND a sequence when say 11 cards or so had just passed without a single face card / ten or ace, AND I was sitting on first base. This would be playing at a table with say three players on it. I'd feel then that a "million tens" were coming and I had a good chance of catching one on first base as the first card out, with a good chance of catching another one too, or even an ace.
What was weird is that sometimes when I did this I'd catch an eleven in which case I'd double down immediately of course, and then invariably catch that ten. Weird in that - where did the little cards adding to eleven even come from? given the count and flow?
I can't tell you how upset the house would get when I kept doubling down at table max and winning. The dealers loved it, but some of the pit bosses were aghast. I recall one time I stepped in to Harrah's Tahoe and clocked them for fifty grand just like that, at a ten thousand dollar max table, with as I recall at least one of the hands being double down with $10K. As soon as I was up fifty I just left, and it took so little time too.
As far as what is probably happening to ZenKing when he keeps losing, is that he ends up with a hard twelve through sixteen or some such with a million tens coming, the dealer gets the ten on top, and ZenKing busts, or he stands pat with a crappy hand since he reasons that the count is too positive, and loses to a twenty. Yes when the count is in your favor you are the one who is supposed to get the good cards, but sometimes it is the dealer who gets them. That counting edge doesn't assure a victory. But for me, the combination of a great count in my favor plus having just seen no paint no tens no aces in an entire deal makes me feel pretty confident. This watching for a sequence with no tens no faces no aces on top of a great count is what I call watching "the flow of the cards."
Still, the fact of the matter is, if you are getting twelves and thirteens all night doesn't matter what the count is, you will lose, and this may be what is happening a lot to the unlucky Mr. ZenKing.
First, I can think of a couple casinos that cut maybe not 4 decks but better than 3 from a 6 deck shoe. I'll name one...Longhorn on Boulder Highway. Tuscany is pretty close to 3 decks cut. and while South point is usually about 2 decks cut (67-70% penetration), I have seen them cutting 3 decks when they get rattled (after a visit from a team of counters). None of these are the 4 decks cut that you mentioned, but none of these examples makes any sense for the casino either. What is that old saying....cutting off your nose to spite your face? :confused:Quote:
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
yeah, I remember him writing that too, but I don't really get it.
let's say 6 decks. the dealer cuts off 2. then you come by and start counting after 2 decks have been played.
so now, there are double the no. of unseen, uncounted cards
it's basically the same as if you started the shoe and the dealer cut 4 of the 6 decks out of play
nobody who knows what they were doing would play in such a game (and the house would never offer it because it would cut the hands per hour by so much, but that's besides the point)
so, I totally don't get it
unless he was only referring to double deck games - but I don't remember him writing that - but if that's what he meant then that would make sense - otherwise not, to me anyway
So anyway, like you said, every game has unseen cards. I personally won't play anything less than 75% penetration unless there is something special drawing me to that game. But at 75% pen, I count through the shoe, get a good high count, there is no guarantee those high cards will even come into play. I mean at 75%, there is 78 cards not in play.
So, lets say I walk by a game that has 2 decks already played. As you correctly said, that adds to unseen cards, basically making that a game that has 3.5 decks cut instead of 1.5 that I usually seek. I would never consider playing that game off the top (after the shuffle at start of play) and the reason is that to get a significant high TC that turns the game to +EV, (let alone max bet TC, which is what we are really after), becomes much less likely. Most likely you are just going to play through a bunch of negative/neutral at best counts with such shallow penetration.
BUT, the difference is, that we are not playing this game off the top, starting with a zero count. If I walk by and see a bunch of small cards on the felt, resulting in a running count of lets say +8, +9, that is already a TC of +1.5. The game is already +EV, even with that increase in unseen cards. It's already +EV and the chances that it gets to a much stronger count are greatly improved, because we are not starting at 0. We have already cleared the first hurdle. We are already to +EV. So yeah, that game is worth jumping in and playing and especially if there is only one or two players.
So yeah you are right, I would never consider playing a 50%-ish penetration game, but you start me off with a significant plus count that changes everything.
As a primary style of play, I don't think much of a pure wong-in. A player will spend all his time searching and back-counting and get very little actual play. And when he does jump in after standing and back-counting, it's a pretty easy read for anyone watching. But as another tool in the toolbox, just happen to be walking by a table and pickup a count instantaneously that creates a playable opportunity....that is what it is for me.
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Originally Posted by kewlJ
I believe you are mistaken. the chance that it gets to a much stronger count are not greatly improved. the chances are actually reduced
because the count is up that means there are more high cards left to play
so, it is more likely now that high cards will come out
and that will not make the count stronger - it will make it weaker
You misunderstood the quote. Or maybe I wasn't clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Half SmokeQuote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I believe you are mistaken. the chance that it gets to a much stronger count are not greatly improved. the chances are actually reduced
because the count is up that means there are more high cards left to play
so, it is more likely now that high cards will come out
and that will not make the count stronger - it will make it weaker
I was not saying or intending to say that the chances that the count goes further positive (and gets to the promise land of Max bet territory) is greater than it not going further positive. You are right that the better odds are that it will drift back towards Zero.
What I was trying to say was that IF you are already at a TC of +1.5-ish, the chances are better than starting at a true count of 0. You are already partway there. And even if the count rises no further, you are already in +EV territory. As a player who plays off the top, do you know how many shoes I play that never get to +EV territory? :( Give me a starting point that is plus EV and I'll take it and see where things go. :cool:
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KJ:
yeah, I got it. I'm not trying to nitpick you. I realized after I posted that that is what you meant to say.
what a funny game it is when you count:
i.e.: the TC is at 2 - you have only a tiny advantage - you hope it goes up more
you begin to be bet up several hands as it goes to 2.5, then 3, then maybe 4, then 4.5, then 5, then 6
so, now it's at 6 and you have a nice edge - it's Max time
but the thing is, all the time you bet up from 2 to 6, all those hands, you were betting up when you actually had a disadvantage (that you couldn't actually know about) because more low cards came out
hilarious
In the good counts the odds of the dealer and player catching the good cards are the same. The difference is the player gets paid 3:2 blackjack where the dealer gets only even money.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
Hey, brokeassblackhole. If I pretend I'm jealous of MDawg will it make you feel better? Okay. That damn MDawg! I'm so jealous. There do you feel better, brokeassblackhole. Did that put your vagina back in whack?
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
yes, and there are 2 other major reasons the player will have an edge and one minor reason
the player is more likely to catch a winning 10 or Ace or 9 on his double downs
and the player is not required to hit when he has hard 12, 13, 14, 15 or 16 but the dealer is - since there are more high cards than low cards left he will bust more often than when there aren't more high cards left
and the minor reason is that the player is better off on his splits for various reasons but not by a great amount
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
my main regret in life is that I didn't get more really good pussy when I was of getting a lot of pussy age;)
if I had been rich I probably would have gotten a lot of real good pussy
all the other stuff - cars, mansions, jewelry I don't give an eff about
From 6th grade until sometimes in the 2000s that's just about the only thing I cared about. Considering the fact that I wasn't born with stunning good looks, height, great muscle tone, I did excellent in that department. Most of it came before I had any money, but it was fairly hard to hold on to a good looking chick with no car, no money while living in crappy area. Thinking back, the more successful I became the the easier it became and you didn't have to try as hard. How about we take a bus to McDonald's doesn't normally wetten pussies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Half SmokeQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
my main regret in life is that I didn't get more really good pussy when I was of getting a lot of pussy age;)
There are a lot of us nominal players (myself included) that had a problem understanding that the player had an advantage on a favorable count when both the player and dealer can receive the same two cards. As you both have explained, 3:2 blackjack and splitting, and/or doubling in this favorable count adds to the advantage over the dealer. Thank you for helping those of us who still want to learn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Half SmokeQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
yes, and there are 2 other major reasons the player will have an edge and one minor reason
the player is more likely to catch a winning 10 or Ace or 9 on his double downs
and the player is not required to hit when he has hard 12, 13, 14, 15 or 16 but the dealer is - since there are more high cards than low cards left he will bust more often than when there aren't more high cards left
and the minor reason is that the player is better off on his splits for various reasons but not by a great amount
I know what the HOUSE advantage / WHY the house has a BJ advantage is but no one above has articulated it. Makes you wonder.
Won nothing / lost nothing today.
I pulled an 8 lost it, pulled a ten lost some of it, then rallied back fairly quickly to around minus 8, then playing just 500 or so a hand I won it all back on a couple of great shoes.
https://i.imgur.com/dUbilFNl.jpg
I ended up pretty much even (ahead a few hundred most of which I tipped out). When I come back from a large enough negative to even I am very good at stopping.
Today therefore was an even day.
So the story of the scene remains about thirty ahead!
I extended us to Wednesday. Hey, at least I earned some comps today. Pit boss said she had me at average 1800. This is because I did play some bigger hands all the way to 4500 with mixed results.
During this same time that I played today that fat guy who was ahead $340K Saturday morning played at my table. Now I see that he's not a good player it makes me angry to see someone play like that. No matter what he gets ahead he keeps playing until he loses it all. By yesterday afternoon he had lost all he was ahead and was even, then ahead $200K, now today he is down about -$100K. Apparently he owns a couple of marijuana dispensaries, so maybe he has some money to burn, but from how upset he gets when he is losing, the money must mean something to him. He's in one of the million dollar suites at the Cosmo so he must have at least a few hundred thousand on deposit.
I talked to one of the pit bosses I know about him. Apparently the fat guy was in a limo, at the airport, ahead the two hundred grand, when he decided to come back, and since then, has lost it all and is down -100K. What he is up and down varies by the minute because he is betting anywhere from 1000 to 20000, with most of his bets around 5000. The reason I think he has only a few hundred thousand on deposit versus a million is that he has no special limits - he plays to $20K the same as the rest of us. If he had a million on deposit they would have raised his limit to at least thirty, maybe more.
One thing, today he was wearing a diamond encrusted Rolex President but it looked aftermarket to me. All of my Rolexes including the ones I have with diamond markers or bezels are all factory. I am a Rolex purist I go for all factory only. His looks gaudy. Still he is a fellow gambler, and I respect him for risking his money, but he has no money management skills and will play until he loses it all is my prediction.
The latest on the fat guy is that he is down -250K - I saw him in the pit around 8:30pm while on the way to pick up some Hattie B's to bring back to the room.
As far as the other fat boy, the one who won the Baccarat tournament, he blew his entire 70K in promo chips that he won. I would have just put half on bank half on player and rinsed them, but he chose to gamble and ended with not a nickel.
Extended our suite to Wednesday. We do have to leave Wednesday though as I have some work in another city (not home) to take care of on Thursday. We'll be back home by the weekend.
Two more days of play!
Deech, another great house rule that smart counters look for is the late surrender option. This option only helps the basic strategy player slightly, but is worth at least tripple that gain to a card counter. The counter can slightly raise their larger bets knowing full well they have an out when needed, provided that the dealer does not have an ace in the hole blackjack.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeechThere are a lot of us nominal players (myself included) that had a problem understanding that the player had an advantage on a favorable count when both the player and dealer can receive the same two cards. As you both have explained, 3:2 blackjack and splitting, and/or doubling in this favorable count adds to the advantage over the dealer. Thank you for helping those of us who still want to learn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Half SmokeQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
yes, and there are 2 other major reasons the player will have an edge and one minor reason
the player is more likely to catch a winning 10 or Ace or 9 on his double downs
and the player is not required to hit when he has hard 12, 13, 14, 15 or 16 but the dealer is - since there are more high cards than low cards left he will bust more often than when there aren't more high cards left
and the minor reason is that the player is better off on his splits for various reasons but not by a great amount
I will add a counter can take insurance "when the dealer shows an ace up" at the right times when the separate bet is positive EV.
I am very familiar with the fact that if I go to Gold Coast with 6 decks, must hit on 17, doubling after splitting, not allowing additional splitting of aces nor surrender gives the house a .64% edge. I always have my trusty strategy chart with me. My buddy casually may try to count cards.
For some of us, it was hard to grasp that when a count is favorable, that both the player and dealer may have the same opportunity to receive the optimal cards, it is the fact that a higher confidence of results will occur based on strategy (as the assumption of ten/face cards) are more likely to appear. If one plays according to optimal strategy the results have a larger percentage for success.
It is crazy not to use math to your advantage. I just had to forget that while the player and dealer have an equal opportunity for a good hand, the player will have greater success (at a favorable count) when an advantage does occur.
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Deech:
there are 2 links here - one is a free card count trainer from the Wizard of Odds (Mike Shackleford) that doesn't have to be downloaded
the other is software for sale -"Casino Verite" (it's only about $100) from Norm Wattenberger - I think it's generally considered the best out there - I'm not trying to sell you something - just saying
https://wizardofodds.com/play/blackjack-v2/
https://www.qfit.com/blackjack-games.htm
Mdawg is truly living the life! :D He constantly wins in one night what is like 9 months of work for me! I am so envious! :D Once again, I am envious, not jealous. ;)
You more than likely win more money than he does just by playing the lottery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
Yesterday the end chip count was
https://i.imgur.com/8F5o0Ypl.jpg
This was before I went back downstairs to pay off the markers and take a trip to VIP to pick up some Pellegrinos, tip the VIP staff, and make a sumptuous dining reservation (was feeling VERY celebratory).
Of this $28,000. only $1000. was my win for 3/1/2020, but still a win is a win. The winner's envelope is now bursting at the seams
https://i.imgur.com/yANjz8Jl.jpg
and the totes ahead for the trip is about $31K.
https://i.imgur.com/nFItVI5l.jpg
All markers from yesterday paid of course.
https://i.imgur.com/ZK16lC0l.jpg
A few interesting things happened yesterday. I was actually ahead over $5K and trying to get to $6K when things started going awry and before you knew it I was betting five grand a hand with mixed results after I dipped to as low as -13K at one point. At that moment while I was heavy hitting the cigar/cigarette girl came by, and I grabbed two tubed cigars from her.
https://i.imgur.com/ZqbSXPOl.jpg
I don't even smoke, and I hate all smoking, but I was feeling ornery and wanted to flex my comp muscles. I had a trip a while back at this same casino where I asked for a cigar for a friend and they made a big deal out of having to get it approved. When I grabbed the two cigars the girl asked the pit boss if I could have two.
"I can have ten!" I answered for him, and then of course the pit boss nodded his consent.
While I was playing, this Asian guy with a half million line (I figured this out later by myself even before the pit boss mentioned it after he left, because he bet one hand at $30,000. which is allowed only for a special limits high credit line player) came up and noticed my watch.
"Is that the platinum?"
"Yes."
He rolled up his sleeve. He was wearing the Rolex Daytona platinum with the chocolate bezel, this watch:
https://i.imgur.com/6YnifI5l.jpg
and of course I recognized it instantly. It is called, the "Platina."
Mine is the latest 40mm Rolex Day Date platinum.
We took off watches and let each of us hold them, comparing weights. Both extremely heavy - we decided that mine must be a tad heavier. The pit boss got in on it too.
"Let me hold those too." And then, after holding them, "Wow!"
That's the thing about wearing a platinum versus a white gold Rolex. It is low key and no one knows what it is - except your peer group. In fact one dipshit WOV member (the former, possibly still current, drunk, I banned from my view at this VCT forum) thought my platinum Rolex watch was a fake when he first saw a pic of it at WOV.
The third thing that happened of interest was that I won one hand just $300. with a bank 6 on a commissionless table (at this casino a bank 6 win at the commissionless table gets paid half). Dealer paid me full. Nearly a half hour later a pit boss came out of nowhere had me cough up the $150. So they are definitely on me, watching closely. It is also a testament to how good surveillance is these days versus about twenty years ago when I was paid $3750. for a $2500. BJ bet when I threw down a king and queen with exultation and the dealer hit to 21. Back then, no one ever came up later to tell me that I had actually LOST -$2500. versus getting paid 3:2 for a BJ I didn't even have.
Last night we were out late dining and had too much fun afterwards back in the suite.
Today is the last day of gaming. Leave tomorrow. Sad, but even good things must come to an end.
Good for me anyway. The fat guy lost pretty much everything. He was playing with only purple chips today. He told me that his friend had lost everything last night too. Now this fat guy, when he loses (which is frequently), forgettaboutit. He starts crumpling cards, throwing them at the dealer, and cursing in a foreign language. But afterwards, as he walks away from the table, he does come around and apologize to the dealer.
I don't believe in getting upset when losing.
In fact, afterwards, after this fat guy had lost everything and left, the pit boss pointed out, talking to me, that "I don't believe I've ever seen you mad."
How does getting steamed help anything? Must play cooly, analytically. And anyway what is there to get mad about? Even when I get down I come back to win in the end.
This always winning in the end goes for both gambling, and the stock market, which incidentally although there will be ups and downs along the way is on its inevitable course back to record highs.
What a bunch of BS. Pictures of a measly $40k in cash or chips is supposed to impress whom? A chump like you would have melted away if you ever saw the cash piles I built for the 10-12 years I played hi limits. And I have a diamond white gold rolex that I purposely DON'T wear because I'm not the faker you are.
No wonder the mensas at WoV shoved you away. All talk & stupid pictures that anybody could post/no action. Just another foolish California flake running his "look at me! look at me" mouth.
Final results for this trip, $32,000. to the good!
https://i.imgur.com/WwTY4LQl.jpg
That brings the total between even just the past two trips, at almost sixty K. MDAWG IS A WINNER.
I won those fifty cent pieces on a couple of odd amount Bank 6 winners where I was paid half (I was playing the commissionless Bacc. table again today). The dealer suggested I hold on to them as continued luck for the next trip.
Today was a bit tumultuous though. I was up, just like yesterday, around $6K but it was after just two or three shoes, and I kept playing. I was trying to get to ten K today, thinking okay that will make up for the 4K I didn't get yesterday where I ended up only $1K ahead. Next thing you know I was down $8K! I pulled a ten K marker, lost a thousand here and there, pressed into a player run, 500, 1000, 1500, 2000, 2500, 3000, 3500 and had the whole 8K back immediately (I did lose the last hand for 4000 with 300 on the side for the dealer, that hurt, but still that run got me back to 18000), and I then paid back the ten. Then, not so long afterwards, I was down 8K again! I pulled a ten again. I then put 4000 on bank, WON, 4000 on bank again, WON, and repaid the second ten K marker.
https://i.imgur.com/YKYebhzl.jpg
From that point on I played very conservatively. By the end of the fifth shoe, things weren't really going anywhere, I was ahead $1000. just like yesterday, and I quit. Bam! $32,000. to the good for the entire trip. I will cash the 15,000 in chips just before we leave for a check. They will temp close my line for cashing so much, but the way to do that is upon departure, when it no longer matters.
Pit boss told me he gave me credit for five hours today, at 1500 average.
We leave tomorrow, and I do not play on checkout days. MDAWG PREVAILS YET AGAIN.
Wife didn't want to go out so I got some high end restaurant food from the second level, and brought it up to the suite. This morning the host already texted me that she was comp'ing everything except tips and retail, including all spa services that my wife got. Nice. Can you see why when I get to Vegas I never want to leave?
Over two weeks in Vegas first class in the top suites, fun gambling, and winning. And I am able to handle my business while away as well as attend to the office building we bought here.
What's not to like?
Rob, you keep talking shit about Mdawg. Rob, have you not noticed that Mdawg no longer responds to you and hasn't responded to you in days? Has it occured to you that maybe, just maybe Mdawg has you on Ignore? Wise up!
What? there's still something coming from the Nosebleed Section?
Yes I put both Rob and Axel on the Pay No Mind list days ago.
https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/8e1d67b...0-4f1e76187af3
Obviously putting me on your ignore list is the proper thing to do since you know I've been on to you since day one. Come on now, you can count cards, shuffle track, ece sequence, hole card, edge sort, card steer(yeah, yeah, I know you didn't say you could do all of those things, but you would have had you thought of them all). Yet, you choose to play -EV Baccarat.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
So here's what I believe is going on(at least something along these lines) I believe you work for some type of Jeweler or Rolex dealer who gives you cash to come to Las Vegas in order to buy and sell Rolexes. Since it's not a good idea to carry around that much cash you put it up as front money and then you take it in and out as markers. Perhaps somebody even helped you set you up a line of credit so you can have access to funds.
Hey, I know you made it clear you didn't want to meet up with me. That's a smart move since you know I would quickly figure out it's all bullshit and it be fairly hard to snow me. However, you claim that you wanted to meet with Michael Shackleford and let him witness your play and perhaps some others you don't mind could tag along as well. It's been a long time since that discussion and you've been here to Vegas multiple times sense. You have had plenty of opportunity to do so. Last I recall, he said that he was more than willing to meet up with you. I don't mind facilitating discussions of a Meetup. You can be assured that nobody would tell me the time and place, especially since I wouldn't be asking. It would be so simple for you to prove me and others wrong. I don't mind being wrong and having to eat my words and apologize.
Here's another idea, they make a Nifty little spy pen that cost about 50 bucks(It will go well with a collared pocket shirt and your Rolexes) you can record an hour's worth of actual play and no one would ever know. I will even donate it to the cause. In all of your pictures you posted I don't ever recall seeing a picture of an actual hand of baccarat being paid out. Of course I wouldn't trust that but you could easily just give up the commission and do some partner bedding to make it look like you're risking that type of money. That's the reason I think I meet up with a few people observing the situation would be a lot better.
You idiot. He's just the same as kew when it comes to me--a weakass loser with no self-control. I'm the FIRST poster they look for....every single time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
This new flamboyant poster only loses credibility with every post that includes cash and chips. That stuff might impress a dweeb like you, but it's most likely not even his and isn't at all related to any play of his. The clown says he comes to LV a lot, so his ducking meets with people like axel tells the tale.
Wise up.
Funny stuff! ;)
First I have no idea about MDawg. Nor care that much. I find his trip report interesting and entertaining. I assume him to be a guy with disposable funds that comes to Vegas periodically to gamble. Funny that he doesn't like fat guys. :rolleyes:
As for Rob, typical Rob. His jealousy immediately comes through. If Rob says he is not impressed, you can be sure he is impressed and JEALOUS.
Axelwolf is pretty good at figuring out the trolls. A jeweler or Rolex dealer that comes to Vegas to sell Rolexes. Seriously Axel, that seems kind of out of the blue. You are surmising this because the guy has some Rolexes? You have been in Vegas for decades Axel, you know how Vegas works. If you have forgotten swing by the airport (level 0) almost any time, but especially say Friday afternoon and evening. There are about 15-20 limos from every strip casino waiting to pick up these type of guys that MDawg appears to be to me. Whales is the term. And if MDawg doesn't qualify as "whale", the fat guys that he is talking about surely do. Maybe MDawg is a Jr whale? But I am sure every one of these guys that the limos are waiting for has a Rolex or several. :rolleyes:
And finally we are back to Mdawg apparently didn't want to meet with Axel, so that means he is not who he says. Know what that means to me? It means he didn't want to meet with Axelwolf. :rolleyes: As someone who has dealt with Axelwolf for a few years and reads him on WoV, I am not surprised one bit that someone wouldn't want to meet with him. He is a bit of a jerk and nasty and sneaky at times. So some gambler, whale or Jr whale coming into Vegas to play, why would they want to meet with Axelwolf? :confused: What advantage?
Anyway, I don't really care who MDawg is or what his story turns out to be. I don't believe the "win every trip" crap. That is either a typical gambler exaggeration type thing, selective memory at play (also common with gamblers} or there is something he isn't telling us, something he is doing that he isn't willing to share about his play. I don't play baccarat, don't even know how, so I have no idea. Is there a hole card opportunity with baccarat?
Really? So this guy I have on ignore thinks I am a Rolex dealer. That almost makes me want to read his post. Almost, not quite.
As far as not meeting him in Vegas, I never said that I would meet with him, I never even considered the possibility. He does seem like a mean spirited a-hole at times, so, why would I want to meet with him. At WOV I did say something about how I wouldn't mind meeting Soopoo because he is a retired doctor and seemed like a legitimate person, but then Soopoo got offended when I repeated something that someone else had posted about how people who wear fake Rolexes are supporting the black market and are bad people, because apparently his deceased mother used to wear a fake Rolex.
Then there was another WOV guy Michael99000 that challenged that I could be winning at Baccarat, and I challenged him to show up in Vegas with $50,000. and play side by side with me, or at any game he chose in Vegas, and that I would win more than he would by the end of the trip. Of course, he whiffed at the challenge and slunk away.
By the way, on the topic of watches, Axel admitted to having a fake Rolex too (besides Soopoo's mother). So who's the phony here? the guy who posts a verifiable video of a dozen genuine Rolexes and other expensive timepieces, or the guy who admits that he has a fake.
I recall skimming this forum before joining, and Axel had said something about how he could fabricate pictures to make believe that he was a high roller in Vegas. That tells me that he is not any kind of high roller, which I already know anyway and I posted about at GF, but also tells me that he has a devious mind, because he would have to pretend, to appear as a high roller. This also tells me that he is always thinking along the lines of subterfuge, another reason I'd not want to meet him - he is devious. Also, MIGHT AS WELL BE FRANK MONSIEUR, there is no way Axel or anyone else could fabricate the pics and supporting story I am posting here. NO one, INCLUDING Axel, seriously believes that any of my Adventures are other than the trip report of a high roller. The only issue some have is with HOW MDawg could be such a consistent winner.
Whale or mini (Jr.) whale? I recall one week in Tahoe when my host told me that I was the biggest player in Tahoe that week. Of course, (1) my average back then was around three thousand a hand, and (2) it was during the week, not weekend. :)
I'd say that I am a Jr. Whale, as far as my level of play. I am playing with $50K credit lines at each casino. That is not unsubstantial, but it is by no means whale levels.
However, back then (by back then I mean over a decade ago before I took my decade or so long hiatus from all gaming), I would say that there was pretty much no comp that I couldn't receive - my friends were talking $800. shots of cognac (more expensive than Louis XIII) and drinking up to $5000. bottles of wine on the house, at one point a relative charged a $5000. meal to my suite, and I wasn't happy about that, but the casino comp'ed it off. In Vegas, I wasn't staying in the 5000 square feet suites, but I was staying in the 2000 square feet suites. In Tahoe, I was staying in the largest suites in Harvey's, Harrah's and Caesar's, no questions asked.
What is interesting though, is that back then most of my lines were "only" $20K (a couple were $25K and one was $50K), and yet I played harder to higher averages than I do today with exclusively $50K lines. Back then if I lost a line at one casino I used to run across the street to a different casino and more often than not, win it right back and pay back the first casino, and keep gambling. So, while I had smaller lines, $20K, I was often playing to $60K levels by blowing the lines out once or even twice and, as far as the casino was concerned, paying them off immediately to play more - paying them back with money I won elsewhere. Over all, back then, this multiple line multiple casino play action worked out for me, and I had more than a few six figure wins that more than covered any losses on some trips.
These days, richer than before, and with higher credit lines, I actually play smaller. Yes during this trip I did have one $15,000. hand I won, one $8000. hand I won (both were during a sort of catch up period, so I didn't end up $23K ahead due to those wins, more like just came back to even for those particular sessions), and many $2000. - $5000. hands with mixed results, but most of my hands this trip were around $300., mmm, maybe more like around, $500. (Those larger hands brought my averages up though, for the sessions.)
Anyway, getting back to Whale or Jr. Whale. Has any of you seen the 2000 Discovery documentary on Vegas? "High Roller's Vegas." I haven't been able to find it online lately. If it is online, please post the link. I recall that in that documentary one of the casino hosts was saying that a "premium" player is one who may gamble and blow $20,000. in one trip, and come back again for this same action. I was surprised to hear that she mentioned that there are only a couple thousand such players in the world. I was definitely of that caliber at that time already, in 2000, and am well beyond that caliber today. Now, in 2000, our economy wasn't the greatest. Dot com bust, and so on. Maybe today, there are far more than two thousand such players today. But in any case, I am definitely then and now a premium player by that definition.
One thing I will say - anyone who was high rolling a while back and is still high rolling today must either have a ton of money, or be very good at gambling. Both are true in my case. I'd say that the average life of most high rollers is just a couple years - most get blown out in that time.
I haven't run across even one of the high rollers I used to play with over a decade ago, again.
I spent two weeks at the Bellagio with my wife and tried to hook up with Axelwolf. He said he didn’t trust meeting me because I always called him out on his alleged claims. Maybe he feared my wife and I were going to mug him.
He’s just another LV hustler friendly with all the fucking idiots from WOV. He always plays the role of a special advantage player, and gets away with it on these stupid forums because most members are all broken down shoe wanna-bes.
Trust me, if anyone is posting on these forums about AP’ing you know their low-end. You never read about a big-time well-known AP ever posting on these type garbage forums. It’s like people who claim to be in the mob or how connected they are with the mob. As soon as that type of talk comes about, you know they are full of shit and are the furthest anyone could be from it.
As soon as an internet concoction like you comes on and posts a long-winded rap about how you "don't care much about what mdawg says or claims" it's a sure thing that it keeps you up at night. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
Your other nightmare is axel. If you didn't have so many crossed wires in that thing you call a head, rather than wasting your time on myself etc., you'd be dreaming about girls.
All that rambling....truth is, if this guy were truly a "premium player" he would never EVER be posting about any of it here or on any forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
Think about it: he not only tries to impress with cash, chips, markers comps and jewelry--and because he isn't satisfied with that level of deception, he expands it into his personal life being that of a multi-millionaire. And if THAT doesn't get the rise he's looking for from forum degenerates, he throws in talk of being a successful yuppie businessman who buys buildings in Vegas.
I believe him when he says he put me and axel on ignore. He just can't handle immediate reading when people give negative reviews. But he ALWAYS goes back and reads everything....as sure as kew rubs his balls when he gets home after failing to hook up with the smelly loser sitting next to him at the table.
You people are being punked.
Let's see. From the blackjack community.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhole
Tommy Hyland. Don Schlesinger, James Grosjean, Don Johnson, Richard Munchkin, Stanford Wong. Among MANY others. All known professional players, most for many decades and all members of the Blackjack Hall of Fame. And all participate regularly on various forums for decades even still today.
I think you will find all kinds on the internet these days. I mean, nowadays people don't even talk - they text - and most youngsters meet their mates online. To say that only "..." post online is an anachronistic attitude, HOWEVER, I do know for a fact that Axel is low end and Rob is a bankrupt. Details have been posted by many both here and at GF.
Converted the three flags to a check, and with the cash, equals a $32K take-home win. I spent some and tipped a lot along the way, so the total win was actually a fair amount higher.
https://i.imgur.com/1CHK7esl.jpg
Pretty much the entire hotel bill at this hotel too was comp'ed, including spa. All that was left were tips (some of which I tipped in cash along the way) and a tiny bit of retail. BEAUTS! I mean my total bill charged to credit card is coming in under a couple hunny! for six nights in a 1200 square foot suite all food and bev included. DOUBLE BEAUTS!
And that concludes MDawg's Feb. 2020 two week plus Vegas adventure.
We'll be traveling in non-casino destinations in April, so the next trip report will be in May.
That $20K figure seems too low.Quote:
Originally Posted by MDawg
There's gotta be way more than a couple thousand players worldwide that regularly drop $20K per trip...unless I'm not understanding what defines a "trip".
Their all has-beens from the good old past. They never were posting while they were actually gambling. Only when they decided to sell books or whatever to idiots like you. Why do you think BJ is pretty much a dead deal today? You have to realize casino people were able to read also.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
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Originally Posted by MDawg
Congrats, MDawg. If you're traveling by car for your next destinations, great. If not, beware of the virus. They're talking possible March Madness with limited attendance. Personal vehicle will be safest way to travel.
Probably the best thing MDawg could do to prove the doubters wrong would be to post Win/Loss statements from 2019 from Vegas casinos. We all understand these reports on table games are never exact,but it would show he isn’t lying about his trips and they would certainly show winnings before tips. While he could explain any losses from ratholing, it would still show he is smart at hiding winnings.
All of the casinos he lists as playing at offer these statements. Like his markers, it’s easy to cover any personal information.
Or he can continue to expect us to believe he wins every trip against all odds.
Still a believer he plays like he says, just don’t believe he wins like he says.
4 of the 6 are still active players! Well let's make that 3. Although Tommy claims to still be active, I think that is in regards to running his team. I don't know how much actually "playing" he does.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackholeTheir all has-beens from the good old past. They never were posting while they were actually gambling. Only when they decided to sell books or whatever to idiots like you. Why do you think BJ is pretty much a dead deal today? You have to realize casino people were able to read also.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
You people just seem to make up shit to suit yourself. I guess THAT is the world we live in.
Mdawg es muerte en wizard of Vegas. Chinga!