CDC recommending no gatherings of 50 or more for next eight weeks. Looks like a brutal stretch ahead for many small business owners and those with too much debt.
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CDC recommending no gatherings of 50 or more for next eight weeks. Looks like a brutal stretch ahead for many small business owners and those with too much debt.
Is this the right thread for this?
This thread is already in the wrong subsection boz.
You posted a link about Italy where they are having to make calls on who to treat because their hospitals are at full capacity. What do you think hospitals do for people when they need them and have Corona? Fluids and ventilators. When they are out of ventilators they can give them Oxygen. Perhaps if you got your news from a variety of sources and not from whatever fake news source, you would have come across these accounts and not started threads calling the Coronavirus a scam. So given my understanding and reading your article, I knew that is what is going on. They're not turning people away because they are evil socialists.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
This is the type of phony shit by you that I'm talking about. I challenge you to show us all just once sentence on this forum where I used the word ventilator. Here you are, you phony bastard attributing me saying I think capitalism is going to fix a shortage of ventilators. This is what you are good at, putting words in people's mouths, making the shit up as you go.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
Was there a shortage of ventilators during the H1N1 pandemic? I don't recall hearing about it. As a matter of fact, the lame stream media covered for Obama and he let 1100 Americans die before declaring an emergency. That's your fucking science guy right there. Totally fucking incompetent. Now, as for all those other Dems you think believe in science. Fuck off. They believe in impeachment. Because that's all they've done in 3 years.
So no, I was not trying to put words into your mouth. Yes I put the word ventilator into your mouth, but I don't feel like I was being misleading in the slightest.
Hobokken was like first place to use a curfew to shut down bars. They referenced the fact that ambulances couldn't get to the bar within 30 minutes because of all the calls elsewhere. This shit is going to happen. It has to be paid for one way or another. Capitalism doesn't just make things teleport into existence when the load is too high and capacity isn't there. Capacity costs $$$ and given how happy people are to pass off debts to future genertions, I don't really think there is the will for people to work hard and pay for it. Although perhaps I am wrong. Perhaps you did work hard and paid all your taxes, Mickey.
You said these viruses come around every 10 years. You're about to learn how wrong you are yet again. (No, it was in another post.)
H1N1 was a virus but it isn't comparable. Virus A is not equivalent o Virus B because they are both viruses. Not sure about Obama, but pretty sure his closing of the borders had nothing to do with H1N1 not doing much. We'll see where we are in 6 months and this has run a really deep course through the world. Talk about strawmen. I barely remember h1n1. Geez - I looked it up and it was less lethal than the typical flu. Read it right here. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5781221/ I'll assume you have the ability to read it and aren't just this fucking lazy.
One thing that pisses me off about Trump fans is they'll defend him to the end and they always use some variation of the argument that is basically "Someone did something somewhere that was vaguely similar, why are you and the media picking on Trump." So played out and a most worthless excuse if you could ever find one. Can and is used to justify anything. Here we see it with the Obama bullshit.
"he never had it". Whatever that means. He has been a senator for a great many years. What have you accomplished? Hmm? lol. ;) I'm sure something more impressive. Lets not go into how he has made many changes, including help fix the super-delegate bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
Anyway, first debate I've watched. It is fun to see them head to head and you can see the reaction of one as the other is speaking. haha! Really though, not an impressive display. The fact that Corona virus is totally dominating daily American life and they get it confused with Ebola ! WHAT THE FUCK. Bernie picked it up from Biden. How can we complain about Trump with that shit!?!
I am at a loss how it wasn't being called a hoax because it was a Democratic hoax. So the virus wasn't a hoax, just a Democratic hoax? I still don't follow that. I mean, how can that logically be true. I'm still scratching my head there.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasillaand that we're discussing this on a thread titled Corona Virus Scam. I hear the virus being called a hoax, so do a lot of other people, some Trump supporters including. I'm conceding that what Trump was referring to is a matter of opinion rather than fact. Others may honestly hear him calling the politicization a hoax. I don't make a habit of rudely calling people liars because they don't share my opinion. I try to reserve that for people who misrepresent the facts. I'm better off not being rude regardless. I'm capable of disagreeing with someone in a much less disagreeable way. I also misrepresented how Trump said what he said. Hence the apology. I suspect that Mickey and I will disagree on most things that don't involve gambling or traveling.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionLet me get this straight. So your belief is that if the virus is called a "Democratic hoax" then it isn't actually being called a hoax? I don't understand at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasilla
It is also weird to me that his followers would believe that "Democrats are politicizing it". Yes, they are fighting for those of us who believe in science. Personally, I am thankful for that.
If you want to appease Mickey out of some sense of kindness then feel free.
accountinquestion, I'm not sure what you're looking for here. I don't think that the virus is a hoax. I do think that many people do. I also think that number is shrinking. I can't explain other people's thoughts and beliefs. I've had some crazy conversations in Wasilla with people I had thought I understood. Thinking that someone is wrong is not the same as calling them a liar. I apologize when it is appropriate. I've got no issue with you calling it appeasement. That's an opinion and I'm not going to call you a liar for expressing it. If I haven't expressed this clearly enough, I'll try to restate. Some people are saying that Trump was referring to the pollicization as the new hoax as opposed to the coronavirus. I'm not arguing it is a logical opinion, I'm arguing that it is an opinion. I don't think that your opinion that I use apologies for appeasement is a logical opinion, but it is still an opinion.
I'm not sure what you're referring to regarding the liar stuff. I just think Trump needs to finally be held accountable for the mountains of shit he has shoveled out either verbally or via twitter. I liked traditional Republicans far more than this guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasilla
Thats what people like Boz and Mickey can't comprehend. People are opposed to Trump because of who he is, what he has said and how he has treated people. His values and lack of expected values. His lack of real leadership. It isn't because everyone is just hyper-liberal. It is a classic case of reflection. All these types of people tend to sit around in echo-chambers all day and are likely more partisan than the rest of us.
There are plenty of respectable Republicans who have little use for Trump.
He definitely said the virus was a hoax. A Democratic hoax is still a hoax by any definition or traditional logic.
My guess is he just had people kicking him in the shins real fast telling him to back that line up as he didn't continue down that path for long.
Classic Trump Derangement Syndrome. You need to be held accountable for the lies you spread. You should be horsewhipped. Trump did not say the virus was a hoax. But you've got your head so far up your ass you are going to continue to hold that lying position. Fake, phony, bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionI'm not sure what you're referring to regarding the liar stuff. I just think Trump needs to finally be held accountable for the mountains of shit he has shoveled out either verbally or via twitter. I liked traditional Republicans far more than this guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasilla
Thats what people like Boz and Mickey can't comprehend. People are opposed to Trump because of who he is, what he has said and how he has treated people. His values and lack of expected values. His lack of real leadership. It isn't because everyone is just hyper-liberal. It is a classic case of reflection. All these types of people tend to sit around in echo-chambers all day and are likely more partisan than the rest of us.
There are plenty of respectable Republicans who have little use for Trump.
He definitely said the virus was a hoax. A Democratic hoax is still a hoax by any definition or traditional logic.
My guess is he just had people kicking him in the shins real fast telling him to back that line up as he didn't continue down that path for long.
PUT UP THE EXACT QUOTE, BITCH! PUT UP THE EXACT QUOTE OF TRUMP CALLING THE VIRUS A HOAX! YOU CAN'T DO IT, YOU PHONY BITCH. PUT UP THE YOUTUBE VIDEO OF IT. YOU CAN'T DO IT. ALL YOU CAN DO IS LIE LIKE THE SNIVELING IDIOT YOU ARE.
He's just telling the truth. Something you don't know anything about.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionI am at a loss how it wasn't being called a hoax because it was a Democratic hoax. So the virus wasn't a hoax, just a Democratic hoax? I still don't follow that. I mean, how can that logically be true. I'm still scratching my head there.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasillaand that we're discussing this on a thread titled Corona Virus Scam. I hear the virus being called a hoax, so do a lot of other people, some Trump supporters including. I'm conceding that what Trump was referring to is a matter of opinion rather than fact. Others may honestly hear him calling the politicization a hoax. I don't make a habit of rudely calling people liars because they don't share my opinion. I try to reserve that for people who misrepresent the facts. I'm better off not being rude regardless. I'm capable of disagreeing with someone in a much less disagreeable way. I also misrepresented how Trump said what he said. Hence the apology. I suspect that Mickey and I will disagree on most things that don't involve gambling or traveling.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
If you want to appease Mickey out of some sense of kindness then feel free.
It didn't take me long to find exactly what Trump said so far as the coronavirus being a hoax. I knew I was right. Its an easy google. One that accountinquestion won't make because it doesn't fit his lying narrative.
Trump didn't call the coronavirus a hoax. He called the criticism democrats leveled at him over his efforts to combat coronavirus a hoax. He was actually quoting someone else that said it.
The democrats criticism is typical. It depends on the way Trump goes. If he bans travel to China he's a racist. If he allows the travel to continue he's threatening the lives of the American people. He's going to get criticized by idiots like accountinquestion no matter what he does.
Can't you hear accountinquestion now: "Wait! Wait! He said it was a hoax!" Whine, snivel, snivel. "He said it was a hoax" Whine, snivel, snivel. "I want my candy" WAAAAHHHH!!! WAAAAHHH! Sniff! Sniff!
Listen to this six minute interview of Dr. Drew Penske on the coronavirus panic recorded March 10, 2020:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfjcEiW-Rzc
Chillax goofball.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmClassic Trump Derangement Syndrome. You need to be held accountable for the lies you spread. You should be horsewhipped. Trump did not say the virus was a hoax. But you've got your head so far up your ass you are going to continue to hold that lying position. Fake, phony, bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionI'm not sure what you're referring to regarding the liar stuff. I just think Trump needs to finally be held accountable for the mountains of shit he has shoveled out either verbally or via twitter. I liked traditional Republicans far more than this guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by wasilla
Thats what people like Boz and Mickey can't comprehend. People are opposed to Trump because of who he is, what he has said and how he has treated people. His values and lack of expected values. His lack of real leadership. It isn't because everyone is just hyper-liberal. It is a classic case of reflection. All these types of people tend to sit around in echo-chambers all day and are likely more partisan than the rest of us.
There are plenty of respectable Republicans who have little use for Trump.
He definitely said the virus was a hoax. A Democratic hoax is still a hoax by any definition or traditional logic.
My guess is he just had people kicking him in the shins real fast telling him to back that line up as he didn't continue down that path for long.
PUT UP THE EXACT QUOTE, BITCH! PUT UP THE EXACT QUOTE OF TRUMP CALLING THE VIRUS A HOAX! YOU CAN'T DO IT, YOU PHONY BITCH. PUT UP THE YOUTUBE VIDEO OF IT. YOU CAN'T DO IT. ALL YOU CAN DO IS LIE LIKE THE SNIVELING IDIOT YOU ARE.
He did call it a Democratic hoax, but the context of the quote does show that he believes the virus is real. It is another side of the same coin. I was somewhat wrong. Snopes calls it a mixture. Admitting I was half wrong one time puts me miles ahead of you. You're too weak to ever admit you are wrong and you are wrong far far far far far far far more than me.
I will admit that I was also wrong because I seem to have heard a lot of the "Trump thinks the virus isn't real" - Look at the thread title. It is hard to keep straight all the crap he says and a waste of time. There are clips of there out there time and time again playing the virus down in some fashion (although some are in very subtle ways). Are there equal clips where he plays it up until it has been clear this shit is spread all over? No- because he was interested in the stock market. Thats what people hired him to do.
The guy has been anti-government leadership since the day he was elected. Public health is one of the few areas you really really need leadership. The fact that his followers actually expect him to do a decent job is another fail in reasoning.
Find me clips in the early weeks where he was telling people to prepare and take it seriously and I'll take this whole step a bit farther and admit, 'yea, he did a good job'.
Here's the quote so you can wind yourself down, silly.
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Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. You know that, right? Coronavirus. They’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, ‘How’s President Trump doing?’ They go, ‘Oh, not good, not good.’ They have no clue. They don’t have any clue. They can’t even count their votes in Iowa, they can’t even count. No they can’t. They can’t count their votes.
One of my people came up to me and said, ‘Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over, they’ve been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning, they lost, it’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax. But you know, we did something that’s been pretty amazing. We’re 15 people [cases of coronavirus infection] in this massive country. And because of the fact that we went early, we went early, we could have had a lot more than that.
I'm going to go out on another limb here. The 3,000 count for Americans with the virus is so useless and phony that it shouldn't even be publicized. At minimum, the actual count, once we start testing, is going to be many times that. I'm going to guess that it's at least 20 times that.
Using that figure serves no useful purpose, so news outlets should simply say "unknown." It's more ominous and, in terms of getting Americans to change their behaviors, may be more useful.
Yes. The fact that America has so little testing. I read that when it became a national health emergency (probably have some minor detail wrong.) it made it so the feds have to approve every state test. It is the most crazy thing. How did that ever become a CDC rule!?! During emergencies increase red tape. WTF x 20.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
I know one person who has it. Probably in their late 40s maybe early 50s. He told me people could hear him breathing at the poker tables. Given how chips work and how transmissible this is, pretty sure it is all around. The problem is the lack of available testing. So we really have no clue how many people are asymptomatic. So not only are many sick people staying at home uncounted, we don't even begin to have a clue about how many people get this and are asymptomatic and yet still spreading it. This is why it is so offensive to hear we only have 15 cases and so forth. Public health is a matter of life or death. It is just as serious as war. I want real leadership.
KJ, I have come around to this position on term limits. I didn't use to, out of fear that "my side" would lose some "good ones". And while that is a valid concern, I think the self enrichment and the stagnation that we get as a nation from having decades long career politicians (pick a side) needs to change. I mean some of these people are a complete embarrassment. I guess that is what you get when you have our electorate.Quote:
Originally Posted by kewlJ
I could be completely wrong and rue the day that I wished for change like this. For instance, I'm a big 2nd amendment guy and with more frequent political turnover that could be curtailed. I dunno.
I think it's time though.
Did Trump Call the Virus a Hoax
Here is your answer.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tr...-rally-remark/
Thanks for the honesty, MWP. One thing snopes missed here is that the quote of Trump saying "this is their new hoax" was actually Trump quoting what someone else had said. I personally consider all unfounded allegations to be hoaxes. When dems said Trump's travel ban on China was "racist" I considered that to be a hoax. The least bit of common sense tells you it's not true.It was a move to protect the American public so therefore a hoax.Quote:
Originally Posted by Midwest Player
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThanks for the honesty, MWP. One thing snopes missed here is that the quote of Trump saying "this is their new hoax" was actually Trump quoting what someone else had said. I personally consider all unfounded allegations to be hoaxes. When dems said Trump's travel ban on China was "racist" I considered that to be a hoax. The least bit of common sense tells you it's not true.It was a move to protect the American public so therefore a hoax.Quote:
Originally Posted by Midwest Player
It's not particularly important but I'm curious, what do you think are the odds that Trump was actually paraphrasing someone as opposed to just manufacturing a quote from someone that doesn't exist?
[QUOTE=accountinquestion;98287]Chillax goofball.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmClassic Trump Derangement Syndrome. You need to be held accountable for the lies you spread. You should be horsewhipped. Trump did not say the virus was a hoax. But you've got your head so far up your ass you are going to continue to hold that lying position. Fake, phony, bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
PUT UP THE EXACT QUOTE, BITCH! PUT UP THE EXACT QUOTE OF TRUMP CALLING THE VIRUS A HOAX! YOU CAN'T DO IT, YOU PHONY BITCH. PUT UP THE YOUTUBE VIDEO OF IT. YOU CAN'T DO IT. ALL YOU CAN DO IS LIE LIKE THE SNIVELING IDIOT YOU ARE.
He did call it a Democratic hoax, but the context of the quote does show that he believes the virus is real. It is another side of the same coin. I was somewhat wrong. Snopes calls it a mixture. Admitting I was half wrong one time puts me miles ahead of you. You're too weak to ever admit you are wrong and you are wrong far far far far far far far more than me.
I will admit that I was also wrong because I seem to have heard a lot of the "Trump thinks the virus isn't real" - Look at the thread title. It is hard to keep straight all the crap he says and a waste of time. There are clips of there out there time and time again playing the virus down in some fashion (although some are in very subtle ways). Are there equal clips where he plays it up until it has been clear this shit is spread all over? No- because he was interested in the stock market. Thats what people hired him to do.
The guy has been anti-government leadership since the day he was elected. Public health is one of the few areas you really really need leadership. The fact that his followers actually expect him to do a decent job is another fail in reasoning.
Find me clips in the early weeks where he was telling people to prepare and take it seriously and I'll take this whole step a bit farther and admit, 'yea, he did a good job'.
Here's the quote so you can wind yourself down, silly.
[quote]
Now the Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. You know that, right? Coronavirus. They’re politicizing it. We did one of the great jobs. You say, ‘How’s President Trump doing?’ They go, ‘Oh, not good, not good.’ They have no clue. They don’t have any clue. They can’t even count their votes in Iowa, they can’t even count. No they can’t. They can’t count their votes.
One of my people came up to me and said, "Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it. They tried the impeachment hoax. That was on a perfect conversation. They tried anything, they tried it over and over, they’ve been doing it since you got in. It’s all turning, they lost, it’s all turning. Think of it. Think of it. And this is their new hoax."
But you know, we did something that’s been pretty amazing. We’re 15 people [cases of coronavirus infection] in this massive country. And because of the fact that we went early, we went early, we could have had a lot more than that.
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I put the quote marks where they should be. I will ask you again to put up the quote where Trump said the coronavirus was a hoax. He obviously didn't say that here. But this is the quote that Dems used out of context to say he said the virus was a hoax. And it was just another Dem hoax. If you lie to me you are pulling a hoax. You lefties pull this same shit over and over again. Like you won't get caught. You're busted you lying piece of shit.
Now, another thing, Mr. Vox News. You revealed a little something about yourself when you told Dan he should read Vox News. You pervert Bernie dick sucker. You're a socialist piece of shit, comrade. Hey what did Bernie tell us? "Castro taught literacy to the Cubans." Yeah, sure, he made sure they could read so he could indoctrinate them. You know what the difference is. In America we have some people that are poor. In Cuba everyone is poor, except for the ruling 1%.
The problem with your socialistic bullshit is it doesnt work. It does not bring the poor up to the level of the middle class. It takes the middle class down to the level of the poor. Hey, everyone is poor but at least we have just one class. Whoopee!!!!
Despite the coming recession that the mainstream media driven coronavirus panic will bring we will beat your ass in November.
I'm learning all kinds of things today. Didn't know who Dr. Drew was. Didn't know what Vox News was. I lead a sheltered, expert-driven life.
As to the whole "does socialism work?" question, really, to apply gambling lingo, is there any kind of reasonable sample size from which to draw a conclusion? This coronavirus may very well lead to largely socialist medicine and socialist airline travel in this country.
For insights on how context and outside forces affect and sometimes dictate the success/failure of different government styles, I recommend Jared Diamond's Pulitzer Prize-winning "Guns, Germs, and Steel." We're about to enter the Germs part.
I don't really care. Trump is just calling out Dem lies. A lie, a hoax, what's the difference? None. Trump gets intentinally misquoted all the time by the mainstream media so they can twist a negative narrative on it. But what is funny, if not for it being sad, is libtard idiots like acuntinquestion that just run with theese lies like they are the gospel.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburgerQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThanks for the honesty, MWP. One thing snopes missed here is that the quote of Trump saying "this is their new hoax" was actually Trump quoting what someone else had said. I personally consider all unfounded allegations to be hoaxes. When dems said Trump's travel ban on China was "racist" I considered that to be a hoax. The least bit of common sense tells you it's not true.It was a move to protect the American public so therefore a hoax.Quote:
Originally Posted by Midwest Player
It's not particularly important but I'm curious, what do you think are the odds that Trump was actually paraphrasing someone as opposed to just manufacturing a quote from someone that doesn't exist?
No one is perfect, least of all Trump. But what acuntinquestion and others do with any criticism I might level at Trump is run with it in their own narrative bashing him and never admit that Trump has done anything even slightly positive. Their intent is to destroy him by any means necessary. They wont get my help. Fuck 'em if they don't like it.
Yes, socialism works....to a degree. But to much socialism is not good. I think Americans are "libertarian socialists." We want the most freedom we can have but also believe taxation for the common good is a good thing. Any tax is a socialist policy. Even far right wingers believe in some forms of taxation. We all disagree on how much taxation, how much socialist policy is good for the country. We come in varying degrees of socialist belief. We have conservative socialists and liberal socialists. Communism is socialism on steroids.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
It would be great if we could all live in a Utopian world where everyone is "drinkin' free bubble up and eating free rainbow stew" on an equal basis. Some people think it's achievable. I don't. Remember what Walter Cronkite said about the failure of communism "It goes against human nature." I know what he was talking about. It's possible there could be a classless society someday but there will never be classless people. The communist dogma "To each according to his needs, from each according to his abilities" is what goes against human nature.
There will always be a person smarter than another person, a person more ambitious than another person, a person more industrious than another person. But that smart, ambitious, industrious person will soon forget all that if he does not make a gain in doing so. If he is just going to be payed the same as the not so smart, cavalier, lazy person he is just going to forget the whole thing and lower himself down to that common level. Everyone knows about "I do more than that person I should get payed more."
That's the problem with to much socialism. It destroys the incentive to produce. Venezuela is a classic example. Sure they had poor people but they also had a thriving middle class. Gone now. They've been driven down to the level of the poor. The people are starving to death. All brought on by central government.
While others may think we need more socialism I say we have enough.
accountinquestion wrote:
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The guy has been anti-government leadership since the day he was elected. Public health is one of the few areas you really really need leadership. The fact that his followers actually expect him to do a decent job is another fail in reasoning."
accuntin shit for brains, where the fuck are you going to find leadership in the two nut jobs running for president on the Democratic side? Apparently Biden is going to be the nominee. In his first debate with Trump he will come out smoking stating under his leadership he will get rid of that chicken pox once and for all. You must be a real shit for brains idiot thinking that the Democratic Party has the fucken answers.
Pretty amazing how the President of the US has so many problems with retaining people in his cabinet. Not sure how you can say you're all successful and then try to tell us that this is somehow preferred.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
Is Trump so smart he doesn't need consistent expert cabinet?
It is all relative. There isn't much case that needs to be made given how shit Trump is.
Only to you asswipe. At least you finally came out and showed your true colors. Another liberal hack looking for a handout for a lifetime of bad choices.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionPretty amazing how the President of the US has so many problems with retaining people in his cabinet. Not sure how you can say you're all successful and then try to tell us that this is somehow preferred.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
Is Trump so smart he doesn't need consistent expert cabinet?
It is all relative. There isn't much case that needs to be made given how shit Trump is.
The only accounting you ever did was how to leech off others and the government. Pure Human Garbage like your hero Bernie.
Yes, Trump is so smart he greatly transcends just about everyone else who thinks they know better than him. Even that socialist "expert" with the crooked tongue--redietz.
Remember, this was all started by a sloper who was so messed up he thought he'd eat a bat. Or was it a rat....or a cat?
Most chinks never left the dark ages...even today. I've been grossed out by these barbarians many times, forceably via business reasons having to gulp down a live squirming monkey's brains picked by their stupid chopsticks, eaten raw snake sliced before my eyes right after I chose the reptile from a fish tank filled with the slimy creatures, ate well done tiger's ball's, and drank blood thru a straw from a freshly "killed & drilled" turtle.
So it doesn't seem so "slanted" to me that these morons started this nonsense with the help of bigger morons like Chris Matthews.
Oh wait a minute--the fake news guy was FIRED.
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Originally Posted by BoSox
BoSox, I completely disagree with you, but the chicken pox crack was a good one. Top notch!
I'll probably vote for Biden, figuring he'll likely die in office and whoever the VP is will be sane and competent. And you Trump voters, you better start evaluating VP candidates, too. Donald looks a little green around the gills to me.
lol... "Chink" and "Sloper" although I think "Slope" is the correct terminology.
My dad did two tours in Nam before he decided to fall down the stairs and die.
He usually said "Gook" but sometimes he did say "Slope" or "Slant Eye."
Funny Hong Kong movie I seen called white people... "Round Eye."
I thought that was funny... oooohhh "Round Eye!"
redietz wrote:
"I'll probably vote for Biden, figuring he'll likely die in office and whoever the VP is will be sane and competent. And you Trump voters, you better start evaluating VP candidates, too. Donald looks a little green around the gills to me."
During today's press conference Trump did, in fact, look like he was a victim of long term PTSD. I think that he does need a six-hour break. At the rate he is going, 65 pounds Supreme court justice Ruth Bader is going to out live him. Does she even need toilet paper?
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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
I usually can't take Trump's rhetoric, but today while with covd crowd and exhibiting calmness and sincerity,a stupid reporter can only ask if "the buck stops with him!" In a true leader's fashion, he ignored the fool and continued with facts-not retaliation.
Aiiight I'm going to not respond to you either. You can't seem to understand the difference between wanting a different tax structure versus wanting some handouts. I have no children, no debts, and make a fine income and my business should be fairly resistant to recession. Not sure what handouts I'm waiting for? I'm in top few % income wise in the country and work part time.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozOnly to you asswipe. At least you finally came out and showed your true colors. Another liberal hack looking for a handout for a lifetime of bad choices.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionPretty amazing how the President of the US has so many problems with retaining people in his cabinet. Not sure how you can say you're all successful and then try to tell us that this is somehow preferred.Quote:
Originally Posted by BoSox
Is Trump so smart he doesn't need consistent expert cabinet?
It is all relative. There isn't much case that needs to be made given how shit Trump is.
The only accounting you ever did was how to leech off others and the government. Pure Human Garbage like your hero Bernie.
You guys just make up endless shit, because thats the sort of people you are. I am getting too dirty interacting with yall, I am going to have to stop.
I am not near as guilty of "putting words in someone's mouth" as Mickey (and likely you.)
Trump has had more turnover so far than any President during my life. Not sure how that is leadership by any competent business person. Even with those 2 guys, it is clear they'd do a better job.
UBI is on the way... will any of you collect???
About a week ago Boz was telling us how Italy blew it.
Now America is shutting down so I guess we blew it too.
Personally I don't really care too much.
I keep having this song go through my head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22GEvDupWGo
You're just pissed because you can't get away with passing off Dem lies and hoaxes here. Sure, theres been plenty of turnover. It stands to reason. Unlike his predecessors Trump has redefined cabinet jobs. Unlike cabinet members from previous administrations if you are in the cabinet you are not their to control the President for Dems and Repubs. Trump put and end to that shit. Trump is a real leader and wont tolerate insubordination.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionAiiight I'm going to not respond to you either. You can't seem to understand the difference between wanting a different tax structure versus wanting some handouts. I have no children, no debts, and make a fine income and my business should be fairly resistant to recession. Not sure what handouts I'm waiting for? I'm in top few % income wise in the country and work part time.Quote:
Originally Posted by The BozOnly to you asswipe. At least you finally came out and showed your true colors. Another liberal hack looking for a handout for a lifetime of bad choices.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestion
The only accounting you ever did was how to leech off others and the government. Pure Human Garbage like your hero Bernie.
You guys just make up endless shit, because thats the sort of people you are. I am getting too dirty interacting with yall, I am going to have to stop.
I am not near as guilty of "putting words in someone's mouth" as Mickey (and likely you.)
Trump has had more turnover so far than any President during my life. Not sure how that is leadership by any competent business person. Even with those 2 guys, it is clear they'd do a better job.
okey dokeyQuote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmYou're just pissed because you can't get away with passing off Dem lies and hoaxes here. Sure, theres been plenty of turnover. It stands to reason. Unlike his predecessors Trump has redefined cabinet jobs. Unlike cabinet members from previous administrations if you are in the cabinet you are not their to control the President for Dems and Repubs. Trump put and end to that shit. Trump is a real leader and wont tolerate insubordination.Quote:
Originally Posted by accountinquestionAiiight I'm going to not respond to you either. You can't seem to understand the difference between wanting a different tax structure versus wanting some handouts. I have no children, no debts, and make a fine income and my business should be fairly resistant to recession. Not sure what handouts I'm waiting for? I'm in top few % income wise in the country and work part time.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Boz
You guys just make up endless shit, because thats the sort of people you are. I am getting too dirty interacting with yall, I am going to have to stop.
I am not near as guilty of "putting words in someone's mouth" as Mickey (and likely you.)
Trump has had more turnover so far than any President during my life. Not sure how that is leadership by any competent business person. Even with those 2 guys, it is clear they'd do a better job.
This is some hilarious stuff right here. Dems started in calling Trump racist for referring to it as the "Wuhan Virus" or the "China Virus." Trump has said he is doing it because the Chinese accused the American Army of planting the virus in China. But in the link Chris Cuomo on CNN accused the President of being racist over it. Someone put together a montage of CNN journalists all calling it the Wuhan Virus or China Virus.
This is the kind of crap Dems pull. They accuse others of doing what they themselves are doing. Watch the video in the link. It's funny.
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrX...d73g2kRBc5COQ-
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Originally Posted by BoSox
I'll probably vote for Biden,
“So you’re telling me there’s a chance”
Welp, I am behind in the information.
I didn't realize that WuHan China ran Military Games on the same day as the Event 201 Experiment.
Interesting read if your into conspiracies.
My Mother said yesterday she thinks that Trump probably made up the Coronavirus as a way to cancel Elections so that by default he will automatically become President until 2024. I answered that I really doubt Trump made up The Coronavirus. I pointed out that he'd be asking for an Impeachment if he really did make up the Coronavirus in a harebrained Scheme to automatically become President until 2024 as Americans would NOT stand for that. She kind of smiled at me like,"You are SO naive!"
That is SO ridiculous that I don’t think it happened. If it did happen, you should have asked your mother if she was smoking meth with Andrew Gillum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
Emotional responses to the Covid-19 virus vary. For example VCT forum member afwonbt is interested in selling his J646E (semi-rare category) Monopoly game piece:
https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...ll=1#post98823
lol lol lolQuote:
Originally Posted by tableplay
Personally I am still not worried about the virus but it is a good excuse to tell people to leave me alone.
Also I can be lazy and tell my wife I am not going outside to get sick.
That way I don't have to go buy the 79 cent on sale chicken or do other chores.
Like I say I am infinity times more worried about the economic repercussions and the possibility of Total Martial Law.
I don't see how we can avoid either if they keep up this pressure.
I am already starting to see some signs of people and cabin fever.
The American Public can not handle being forced to stay in their houses.
You know that we in America have this mentality of "Your not going to tell me what to do!!"
I do worry the general public will give up more liberty to get temporary safety though.
I have a feeling that as this Covid-19 thing goes on, more and more people will be flying to Antarctica to stay safe. Anctartica may become the safest place in the world despite being way too damn cold...
AGENDA 21Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
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Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Like a fine wine, some posts just get better and better with age.
Not a hoax? Hehehe.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Bangladesh has 164 million people. Coronavirus hit in early March. No shutdown. 5 deaths to coronavirus so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by LMRNot a hoax? Hehehe.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
I would have thought the lesson of this thread would be to stop quoting death counts that are expected to rise geometrically as if they were set in stone.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmBangladesh has 164 million people. Coronavirus hit in early March. No shutdown. 5 deaths to coronavirus so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by LMRNot a hoax? Hehehe.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
I guess that that is how it started here, except that we were less careful. Are they calling it a hoax, over there, either? I don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
I imagine that a lot of it goes undocumented there.
And, that it may be only a matter of time for also them. It could be that we have the virus in our systems for a month before it does anything.Quote:
Patients with COVID-19 symptoms continued to die in hospitals without access to testing facilities in Barishal, Khulna, and Patuakhali.
Coronavirus: Bangladesh mass prayer event prompts alarm
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51956510
The lesson of this thread is any idiot can chime in.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburgerI would have thought the lesson of this thread would be to stop quoting death counts that are expected to rise geometrically as if they were set in stone.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmBangladesh has 164 million people. Coronavirus hit in early March. No shutdown. 5 deaths to coronavirus so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by LMR
Indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThe lesson of this thread is any idiot can chime in.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburgerI would have thought the lesson of this thread would be to stop quoting death counts that are expected to rise geometrically as if they were set in stone.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
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Originally Posted by smurgerburgerIndeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmThe lesson of this thread is any idiot can chime in.Quote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
A month ago, the president described the virus threat as "15 people, going down, towards zero."
The strangest element of all of this is that people, not just here in this forum but here around me in Tennessee, were in active and passive denial how bad this was going to be all along. It did not take any particular special skills to figure this out.
China did not figure to be particularly different from the U.S. Italy and Iran did not figure to be particularly different. All you had to do was read a little international news, read a few background pieces on pandemics, and follow what the publicly available experts were saying. It was also useful to ignore whatever was being said, and how it was being said, on Fox up until less than three weeks ago. Fox, if you'll notice, usually filters their experts by political affiliation, not expertise.
I'm a layman. I'm not an optimist. I had this timeline and projections almost precisely the entire way. All it took was reading international articles and listening to actual experts. All it took was having an actual respect for science and being able to ignore the president, who finally came clean yesterday. Hey, if I tracked this almost exactly the whole way, you think he was getting worse information than me?
Not likely.
Have Pelosi and Schumer come clean about begging people to attend the Chinese parades in February? Thats your problem Redietz. You just blame Trump while most of it was done by dems.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburgerIndeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
A month ago, the president described the virus threat as "15 people, going down, towards zero."
The strangest element of all of this is that people, not just here in this forum but here around me in Tennessee, were in active and passive denial how bad this was going to be all along. It did not take any particular special skills to figure this out.
China did not figure to be particularly different from the U.S. Italy and Iran did not figure to be particularly different. All you had to do was read a little international news, read a few background pieces on pandemics, and follow what the publicly available experts were saying. It was also useful to ignore whatever was being said, and how it was being said, on Fox up until less than three weeks ago. Fox, if you'll notice, usually filters their experts by political affiliation, not expertise.
I'm a layman. I'm not an optimist. I had this timeline and projections almost precisely the entire way. All it took was reading international articles and listening to actual experts. All it took was having an actual respect for science and being able to ignore the president, who finally came clean yesterday. Hey, if I tracked this almost exactly the whole way, you think he was getting worse information than me?
Not likely.
I’m starting to agree, this is much worse than anybody could have ever predicted. I mean just this morning I read where it took out the last survivor from the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic. She died yesterday from coronavirus. She was 108 years old. Yes, you heard that right, she was 108! The Spanish flu couldn’t get her, but the coronavirus did. Check it out, you can find the article in the New York Post.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburgerIndeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
A month ago, the president described the virus threat as "15 people, going down, towards zero."
The strangest element of all of this is that people, not just here in this forum but here around me in Tennessee, were in active and passive denial how bad this was going to be all along. It did not take any particular special skills to figure this out.
China did not figure to be particularly different from the U.S. Italy and Iran did not figure to be particularly different. All you had to do was read a little international news, read a few background pieces on pandemics, and follow what the publicly available experts were saying. It was also useful to ignore whatever was being said, and how it was being said, on Fox up until less than three weeks ago. Fox, if you'll notice, usually filters their experts by political affiliation, not expertise.
I'm a layman. I'm not an optimist. I had this timeline and projections almost precisely the entire way. All it took was reading international articles and listening to actual experts. All it took was having an actual respect for science and being able to ignore the president, who finally came clean yesterday. Hey, if I tracked this almost exactly the whole way, you think he was getting worse information than me?
Not likely.
Just think if we would have only had more ventilators around we might have been able to keep her around another 8 days so she could have died of old age. How said, Trump robbed her of the last 8 days of her life.
When will we finally get socialized medicine in our country to take care of these egregious problems in our system? I’m tired of hearing about 108 year old people dying before their time.
You're just starting to believe? Now they're saying they believe just talking can transmit it, I was believing that was the case the entire time. As fast as it's spreading that would make sense to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21I’m starting to agree, this is much worse than anybody could have ever predicted. I mean just this morning I read where it took out the last survivor from the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic. She died yesterday from coronavirus. She was 108 years old. Yes, you heard that right, she was 108! The Spanish flu couldn’t get her, but the coronavirus did. Check it out, you can find the article in the New York Post.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
A month ago, the president described the virus threat as "15 people, going down, towards zero."
The strangest element of all of this is that people, not just here in this forum but here around me in Tennessee, were in active and passive denial how bad this was going to be all along. It did not take any particular special skills to figure this out.
China did not figure to be particularly different from the U.S. Italy and Iran did not figure to be particularly different. All you had to do was read a little international news, read a few background pieces on pandemics, and follow what the publicly available experts were saying. It was also useful to ignore whatever was being said, and how it was being said, on Fox up until less than three weeks ago. Fox, if you'll notice, usually filters their experts by political affiliation, not expertise.
I'm a layman. I'm not an optimist. I had this timeline and projections almost precisely the entire way. All it took was reading international articles and listening to actual experts. All it took was having an actual respect for science and being able to ignore the president, who finally came clean yesterday. Hey, if I tracked this almost exactly the whole way, you think he was getting worse information than me?
Not likely.
Just think if we would have only had more ventilators around we might have been able to keep her around another 8 days so she could have died of old age. How said, Trump robbed her of the last 8 days of her life.
When will we finally get socialized medicine in our country to take care of these egregious problems in our system? I’m tired of hearing about 108 year old people dying before their time.
[QUOTE=redietz;99727A month ago, the president described the virus threat as "15 people, going down, towards zero."
The strangest element of all of this is that people, not just here in this forum but here around me in Tennessee, were in active and passive denial how bad this was going to be all along. It did not take any particular special skills to figure this out.
China did not figure to be particularly different from the U.S. Italy and Iran did not figure to be particularly different. All you had to do was read a little international news, read a few background pieces on pandemics, and follow what the publicly available experts were saying. It was also useful to ignore whatever was being said, and how it was being said, on Fox up until less than three weeks ago. Fox, if you'll notice, usually filters their experts by political affiliation, not expertise.
I'm a layman. I'm not an optimist. I had this timeline and projections almost precisely the entire way. All it took was reading international articles and listening to actual experts. All it took was having an actual respect for science and being able to ignore the president, who finally came clean yesterday. Hey, if I tracked this almost exactly the whole way, you think he was getting worse information than me?
Not likely.[/QUOTE]
https://www.thenewscommenter.com/new...avirus/1294419
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrU...AoofV4MjHk7YI-
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrU...zZplT1ZEKUj4Y-
https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/s...&hsimp=yhs-102
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrW...qMg1EIM4WuvSQ-
https://youtu.be/4fosk_QLDck
This proves it's a scam from Hawaii to NYC.
My guess is the health centers are phonying the whole thing up because they are after fed money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Guessers are losers.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Wow, you’re good with one-liners tonight. I’m gonna give you an A+ for that one. LolQuote:
Originally Posted by LMRGuessers are losers.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
You've been doing nothing but guessing with hydroxychloroquine. You have no evidence it doesn't work. Go get your shine box, loser.Quote:
Originally Posted by LMRGuessers are losers.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
About the Covid-19, I feel like the General Public would have rather been given the ugly truths than pretty lies from the getgo. The U.S. Government, regular Media, Social Media, etc at first treated Covid-19 like it was just like the Common Cold or Flu at first and really was no big deal. Metaphorically, they treated incoming Asteroids and Comets(Which can all destroy lots of places ) as relatively harmless shooting stars(Not at all that dangerous)They even had PARADES and FESTIVALS at many, many places when we should have been staying away from a bunch of people starting from like February 1st. Only RECENTLY did they admit that this is some scary shit. They should have admitted this was very very serious from like February 1st at least and did the shutdowns starting then. The Virus would have been much better contained.
You might be getting a substantial bonus Tasha. As a Front Line Hero the US government is considering a bill to award you $25K for your fearless service in the aisles of Walgreen's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tasha
https://cdllife.com/2020/senators-pr...eid=909615e0bd
Today’s liberal talking point is now that the Virus is Racist.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/black...b62459a930512a
The media is smart enough to see this isn’t going to end up like they wanted, so they need new narratives. Death projections are dropping by the day and Trump made huge strides with Blacks, so why not use this to go after him.
Look for this to be today’s talking point on MSNBC and CNN, along with a question at the press briefing.
[QUOTE=mickeycrimm;100472]Hey Mickey, I noticed you made a similar mistake like others and I have with your quoting(at least I think it's similar). I believe that similar evidence was presented while trying to link me and the new Baccarat guy(funny I can't even remember exactly what his name is) as being one in the same. Does that mean I am you or you are me? But seriously, why does anyone understand exactly what the deal is?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz;99727A month ago, the president described the virus threat as "15 people, going down, towards zero."
The strangest element of all of this is that people, not just here in this forum but here around me in Tennessee, were in active and passive denial how bad this was going to be all along. It did not take any particular special skills to figure this out.
China did not figure to be particularly different from the U.S. Italy and Iran did not figure to be particularly different. All you had to do was read a little international news, read a few background pieces on pandemics, and follow what the publicly available experts were saying. It was also useful to ignore whatever was being said, and how it was being said, on Fox up until less than three weeks ago. Fox, if you'll notice, usually filters their experts by political affiliation, not expertise.
I'm a layman. I'm not an optimist. I had this timeline and projections almost precisely the entire way. All it took was reading international articles and listening to actual experts. All it took was having an actual respect for science and being able to ignore the president, who finally came clean yesterday. Hey, if I tracked this almost exactly the whole way, you think he was getting worse information than me?
Not likely.[/QUOTE
Here we have redietz say he had the timeline and projections almost precisely the entire way. Sorry, redietz, that's a no go. All those articles and experts were way high on their estimates. They've even said so many times in the last few days. So if you really have some respect for science you might want to go over your original numbers and see if you can find where you went wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburgerIndeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
A month ago, the president described the virus threat as "15 people, going down, towards zero."
The strangest element of all of this is that people, not just here in this forum but here around me in Tennessee, were in active and passive denial how bad this was going to be all along. It did not take any particular special skills to figure this out.
China did not figure to be particularly different from the U.S. Italy and Iran did not figure to be particularly different. All you had to do was read a little international news, read a few background pieces on pandemics, and follow what the publicly available experts were saying. It was also useful to ignore whatever was being said, and how it was being said, on Fox up until less than three weeks ago. Fox, if you'll notice, usually filters their experts by political affiliation, not expertise.
I'm a layman. I'm not an optimist. I had this timeline and projections almost precisely the entire way. All it took was reading international articles and listening to actual experts. All it took was having an actual respect for science and being able to ignore the president, who finally came clean yesterday. Hey, if I tracked this almost exactly the whole way, you think he was getting worse information than me?
Not likely.
You zero'd in on the President to blame for coronavirus. Massive blame on the dem side too but you've failed to acknowledge it. While you might say you are based in science I don't believe it. You claims are really based in politics.
It don't take a rocket scientist to figure out the early models were poorly designed.
The “media" needs to report on this...........
Texas GDP - $1.803 trillion (2018).................
Texas Population - 27.8 Million................
Texas Deaths "Linked" to Covid-19 over the last three and a half weeks - 202
The Texas economy is being destroyed over 8 deaths a day..........
of mostly elderly with morbid conditions..........
whose deaths may or may not have been due to the Coronavirus.
Also........
on average there are approximately 580 deaths per day in Texas............
so 8 would only be 1.379% of the daily deaths
Regardless of how deadly the Covid-19 virus is, they should have a side-by-side comparison of it with the flu, so that we have a point of reference with something we are familiar with - but these fucks just won't put the flu trend-lines on the graphs which have the covid-19 trend-lines (and/or model projections) they show will they ?
Been seeing empty hospitals in my line of work. Empty
In my area the hospitals are so empty my coworker’s wife, who’s a nurse at our local hospital for 25 years, has been laid off. This is the first time this has happened to her.Quote:
Originally Posted by radicalwin
I couldn’t believe it when he told me this, so I asked him why? He said because all elective surgeries (which include hip, knee replacements, etc) have been canceled. The majority of surgeries at hospitals are elective.
She’s, a nurse, and hoping this pandemic goes away so she can go back to work. I’m not kidding. Why doesn’t the news media cover this story? They could report on all the nurses being laid off and out of work because of the coronavirus pandemic.
You can’t make this stuff up if you tried.
Mickey, do you honestly have any blessed idea what you're talking about? You know damn well the numbers I was talking about were good the whole way. You're just plucking this line from a study here and that line from a model there and trying to assemble some kind of case for what? I have no idea. You realize there are always going to be ranges of results and ranges of models, and if you just pluck what you want, you can make a case for gibbons being smarter than people and baccarat players never losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmHere we have redietz say he had the timeline and projections almost precisely the entire way. Sorry, redietz, that's a no go. All those articles and experts were way high on their estimates. They've even said so many times in the last few days. So if you really have some respect for science you might want to go over your original numbers and see if you can find where you went wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzQuote:
Originally Posted by smurgerburger
A month ago, the president described the virus threat as "15 people, going down, towards zero."
The strangest element of all of this is that people, not just here in this forum but here around me in Tennessee, were in active and passive denial how bad this was going to be all along. It did not take any particular special skills to figure this out.
China did not figure to be particularly different from the U.S. Italy and Iran did not figure to be particularly different. All you had to do was read a little international news, read a few background pieces on pandemics, and follow what the publicly available experts were saying. It was also useful to ignore whatever was being said, and how it was being said, on Fox up until less than three weeks ago. Fox, if you'll notice, usually filters their experts by political affiliation, not expertise.
I'm a layman. I'm not an optimist. I had this timeline and projections almost precisely the entire way. All it took was reading international articles and listening to actual experts. All it took was having an actual respect for science and being able to ignore the president, who finally came clean yesterday. Hey, if I tracked this almost exactly the whole way, you think he was getting worse information than me?
Not likely.
You zero'd in on the President to blame for coronavirus. Massive blame on the dem side too but you've failed to acknowledge it. While you might say you are based in science I don't believe it. You claims are really based in politics.
It don't take a rocket scientist to figure out the early models were poorly designed.
I mean, look at that Stanford study you posted. It was an outlier. They did good work, but it was low. At the time, you could have posted any of the other studies or models that suggested higher numbers. But you didn't because you were making a case for something. You were guilty of confirmation bias and selective reporting.
I hope you've gone back and read what I posted regarding numbers. I listened to Fauci and other experts regarding numbers early, which was optimistic 80-85K is social distancing was implemented. When asked about the numbers Trump threw out there regarding 2.2 million, Fauci's response was that he'd never seen a worst case scenario actually occur in his life, that reality always fell in between. Trump, not Fauci, put that 2.2 million out there in the public domain.
Do you know what the projected numbers are for your August 4th deadline if social distancing ends April 30? You should probably look it up.
Mickey, you've been wrong on this every step of the way. Now you're pushing what? Some anti-Trump people are allegedly making this worse than it seems and hammering the economy -- I guess to get the Trumpster out of office?
Yeah, mickey, sure they are. And China and the Dems are in cahoots. And what else? The virus will be over on August 4th because then 60K will be dead, and that's below the numbers those evil experts said.
The main reason I posted about this here was that your opening thread was so bad it could have gotten people who respect your opinion killed.
Preliminary numbers show very little penetration in terms of antibodies vis-à-vis the general population. If you don't know what that means, go figure it out. Anybody who follows you deserves what they get.
It's a scam, folks. Mickey said so. Jesus, how can somebody post that and just keep arguing as if they know what they're talking about?
The media has been covering this. It is certainly not new news to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21In my area the hospitals are so empty my coworker’s wife, who’s a nurse at our local hospital for 25 years, has been laid off. This is the first time this has happened to her.Quote:
Originally Posted by radicalwin
I couldn’t believe it when he told me this, so I asked him why? He said because all elective surgeries (which include hip, knee replacements, etc) have been canceled. The majority of surgeries at hospitals are elective.
She’s, a nurse, and hoping this pandemic goes away so she can go back to work. I’m not kidding. Why doesn’t the news media cover this story? They could report on all the nurses being laid off and out of work because of the coronavirus pandemic.
You can’t make this stuff up if you tried.
Alaska hospitals are also postponing elective surgeries. My surgeon even decided to make my post op appointment telephonic in mid March. Hospitals here are pretty quiet. Visitation is extremely limited and every one is screened going in. It doesn't seem that odd to me. They don't want infections in their hospital and they want to preserve their supplies.
I guess I haven’t seen it. Yeah, they’ve covered hospitals stopping doing their elective surgeries, but I haven’t seen them report on all the nurses being laid off. I wonder how many nurses and doctors across America are out of work right now because of this pandemic?Quote:
Originally Posted by wasillaThe media has been covering this. It is certainly not new news to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob21In my area the hospitals are so empty my coworker’s wife, who’s a nurse at our local hospital for 25 years, has been laid off. This is the first time this has happened to her.Quote:
Originally Posted by radicalwin
I couldn’t believe it when he told me this, so I asked him why? He said because all elective surgeries (which include hip, knee replacements, etc) have been canceled. The majority of surgeries at hospitals are elective.
She’s, a nurse, and hoping this pandemic goes away so she can go back to work. I’m not kidding. Why doesn’t the news media cover this story? They could report on all the nurses being laid off and out of work because of the coronavirus pandemic.
You can’t make this stuff up if you tried.
Alaska hospitals are also postponing elective surgeries. My surgeon even decided to make my post op appointment telephonic in mid March. Hospitals here are pretty quiet. Visitation is extremely limited and every one is screened going in. It doesn't seem that odd to me. They don't want infections in their hospital and they want to preserve their supplies.
It’s actually a little scary. If this pandemic goes on much longer, it could drive our for-profit hospitals out of business and into bankruptcy. This could get bad! Think about it, most of our hospitals shutting down because of no business during a pandemic.
I sure hope this pandemic crises doesn’t last too much longer. Because nurses and doctors need jobs too!
Redietz, you're a fucking assclown trying to cover your tracks. Did you read what Boz wrote? They are destroying the Texas economy over 8 deaths a day. Get a goddam clue. The more I think about the coronavirus scam the more pissed off I get. And I'm in the high risk group. Civil rights are being destroyed in this country. Do you really think you are free when you can be ordered to stay in your house. When you can be told that you can't even go in your backyard? That you can be ordered to not work? What kind of goddam free country is that? People are starting to get pissed about it, redietz. Your commie ass better be armed. The people of Tennessee are going to start shooting soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietzMickey, do you honestly have any blessed idea what you're talking about? You know damn well the numbers I was talking about were good the whole way. You're just plucking this line from a study here and that line from a model there and trying to assemble some kind of case for what? I have no idea. You realize there are always going to be ranges of results and ranges of models, and if you just pluck what you want, you can make a case for gibbons being smarter than people and baccarat players never losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimmHere we have redietz say he had the timeline and projections almost precisely the entire way. Sorry, redietz, that's a no go. All those articles and experts were way high on their estimates. They've even said so many times in the last few days. So if you really have some respect for science you might want to go over your original numbers and see if you can find where you went wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
You zero'd in on the President to blame for coronavirus. Massive blame on the dem side too but you've failed to acknowledge it. While you might say you are based in science I don't believe it. You claims are really based in politics.
It don't take a rocket scientist to figure out the early models were poorly designed.
I mean, look at that Stanford study you posted. It was an outlier. They did good work, but it was low. At the time, you could have posted any of the other studies or models that suggested higher numbers. But you didn't because you were making a case for something. You were guilty of confirmation bias and selective reporting.
I hope you've gone back and read what I posted regarding numbers. I listened to Fauci and other experts regarding numbers early, which was optimistic 80-85K is social distancing was implemented. When asked about the numbers Trump threw out there regarding 2.2 million, Fauci's response was that he'd never seen a worst case scenario actually occur in his life, that reality always fell in between. Trump, not Fauci, put that 2.2 million out there in the public domain.
Do you know what the projected numbers are for your August 4th deadline if social distancing ends April 30? You should probably look it up.
Mickey, you've been wrong on this every step of the way. Now you're pushing what? Some anti-Trump people are allegedly making this worse than it seems and hammering the economy -- I guess to get the Trumpster out of office?
Yeah, mickey, sure they are. And China and the Dems are in cahoots. And what else? The virus will be over on August 4th because then 60K will be dead, and that's below the numbers those evil experts said.
The main reason I posted about this here was that your opening thread was so bad it could have gotten people who respect your opinion killed.
Preliminary numbers show very little penetration in terms of antibodies vis-à-vis the general population. If you don't know what that means, go figure it out. Anybody who follows you deserves what they get.
It's a scam, folks. Mickey said so. Jesus, how can somebody post that and just keep arguing as if they know what they're talking about?
Your alarmist stats were way overblown. You've been wrong the whole time. What you write is dangerous because some people might be susceptible to giving up their rights. You are the one thats guilty of confirmation bias and selective reporting. So you listened to Fauci, eh? Were you listening to him in February when he said we didn't have anything to worry about? Did you listen to that? If it was up to Fauci, the Clinton democrat, the economy would be shut down until everyone is vaccinated. What's that, a year and a half from now. Your socialist ass would love to see that.
And yes, China and the Dems, along with the main stream media, are in cahoots. Biden is a China puppet. Trump has to fight them all off.
I could've gotten people killed? You have ignored the corrupt WHO, the Dems telling everyone in January and February to come out and co-mingle in crowds, Fauci telling everyone it's okay, just so you can criticize Trump....and get around to telling me I could get people killed. Hey, fuck you.
Give me liberty or give me death. It's time for this dumbass communist plot of an economic shutdown to end. End it or the people are going to revolt.
https://cbsaustin.com/news/local/gov...easter-weekend
Appears the Governor of the great state of Texas is working on an executive order on reopening his state. It’s time to start fixing the damage while allowing those who wish to hide in their basements to do just that. Like most of life, the world moves forward and some make the choices to be left behind. Fits right in with the “victimization” culture liberals have fought so hard for. And it won’t win this time either.
Pelosi deletes twitter video of her telling people not to fear coronavirus and come to chinatown in February. Trump calls her on it. Hilarious.
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrW...icJejOqduCpI4-
Hypocrite Chris "Fredo" Cuomo was supposed to be quarantining from public and also wife and kids after testing positive for coronoavirus. CNN even filmed him in quarantine in his basement. But someone seen him in a park playing with his wife and kids. The person asked Cuomo why he wasn't in quartantine. Fredo went ballistic. Now, days later, his wife has tested positive for the virus.
https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrU...PAGqcqbrxIRYY-
The liberals will be claiming they're victims because of this for years. Most of us won't care one bit about their basement living or the projects they hide out in.
The Fredos got this because they know they live in a cesspool of germs, and they refuse to admit it. Instead, that fart-faced Chris C spends his time and effort making up lies about Trump. Good for corona for slapping him and his idiot wife down.
I guess it all depends who's doing the hiding.
https://theskepticalgambler.blogspot...-part-one.html