No no no. I was very critical of Rob for what he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS__
No no no. I was very critical of Rob for what he said.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS__
The downside is sitting in a casino for hours on end. Between the smoke and germs, I'm not sure it's the most healthy way to make a living.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS__
I notice when watching the poker shows, the players look to be some of the most unhealthiest "professionals" I can imagine. Living on coffee and smokes for long periods of time most are overweight with pasty white skin, or have the skinny look of pack a day smokers.
The most sedentary of lifestyles, I can't imagine doing it on a regular basis.
Most guys that are going off to gamble by themselves for long periods of time are using it as an excuse to spend some time with hookers. If you do have a beast of a wife, it's the best case scenario. Avoid her and spend some quality time with a rental. Rinse and repeat and call yourself a "professional".Quote:
Originally Posted by RS__
The question is, are hookers then a business expense?
Rob, you are the one who has bragged the most about all the money you have made but have never put up any proof. No one has forgotten how you welshed the bet with arci.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Absolutely, if for a legitimate business purpose such as entertaining clients. But this creates some other problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by james40
Let's remember that tax fraud is what got Al Capone caught... not his bank robbing or extortion. If you deduct hookers as a business expense it might pass muster with the IRS but you might get caught for other crimes.
With the exception of poker APs.....who said anything about sitting in casinos for "hours on end"? With a few exceptions, the most I ever really play at a time is about 3 hours....typically 30 minutes to 2 hours at a time.Quote:
Originally Posted by james40
Ha-ha arci's dead wife gets brought up again. You know, the wench who was ill for years and he chose to keep dragging her thru casinos so both of them could pile up the points on his slot club card while she could barely sit up straight? Now there's the picture-perfect scenario of a vp "AP" :) Then switch over to how Bob Dancer abused his wife by refusing to quit his vp addiction to help her thru her illness in favor of leaving her.
Yes....the dreamy, ethical, moral compass-driven worlds of the AP's.....
As usual when little man Robbie comments you can count on the fact he will be spewing lies left and right. I'm still waiting for this clown to take that YUUUGE bet of $300 to see my 2010 and/or 2015 tax returns. Also everyone would like to see where I claimed to be making $10,000 every year (oh wait, he can't because it is another silly lie). Both he and mama belly ran for the hills when that bet was offered. One can only laugh at them. They are both like bad pennies and come back and repeat the same lies if they think they can get away with them. And, once again they get caught with their pants down.
For a quick commercial break, I just got this commercial sent to me. This is funny, at least I think so.
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3 pages and counting James. If you raise the over I can middle it.Quote:
Originally Posted by james40
It's so easy to reel poor lonely arci back in. Just bring up the dead vegetable, mock her, blame him for all her suffering....THEN WATCH HIM COME APART AT THE SEAMS AND TELL LIES!!! HAHAHAHA :):)
Anyway....now that I put a shot of life into Dan's forum once again, it's holiday season and family calls. (and thanks arci--you're the bonus I was looking for!) I'll be back sometime after the 1st unless something more important comes up---like a wart that needs lancing, or a visit by Peter and Gordon :)
Alan doesn't own the site anymore and it's pretty much an open forum. Rob likes to talk about wives and he's posted pictures of his for all to see, so have at it. Remembering that Rob is an old bald guy with a pot belly and bad skin, so beast is a relative term.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS__
Me thinks some of the comments hit a little too close to home, hence his quick departure.
A confederacy of dunces. Do any of you boys and girls want to shoot some pool? Do you really think you can shut someone down? You are ignorant at the best, dumber and uglier than a mud fence at your worst. Dumb. Dumber than a rock. Just a goofball Rob Singer outfit. Dumber than hellatious. Just really stupid. The Singer kind of stupid.
This comment was made to Alan. It is ridiculous nonsense put down by a gambling forum troll who has no clue. Alan is a professional businessman who gambles for entertainment. I have absolutely nothing against that. I personally have a different perspective on gambling but more power to Alan and anyone else in the same position.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackhole
Just a jealous loser Mickey. You can spot them miles away. They're always so angry.
I recognize that there is a difference between those of us who gamble for recreation, and those who gamble as a source of income -- even as a full time job.
I just want to be sure that folks who are new to casinos also understand the difference and they should know that "professional" and "semi professional players" operate differently when it comes to bankroll, and perhaps income requirements and standard of living which includes health and retirement, vacations, and security.
We hear so much about "advantage plays" but frequently missing are discussions from the "professional" and "semi professional" players about their income requirements, standard of living, health and retirement, vacations and what security they have.
This statement is quite telling. We have it on Rob's word that one of these 100K winners was after he "retired from professional play." That should mean that during his 10 years of "professional play" Rob hit only one royal at $25 denom. And that has to mean that Rob played very little $25 denom video poker during his "professional career." Think about it. Only one royal at that level in 10 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Agreed. Perhaps would be a good time for a new thread, would you like to take the honor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
But quickly -- I think for one, you're either professional or recreational AP. A professional AP is one who makes his living solely or primarily from AP, whereas a recreational AP doesn't need to make money by gambling -- he either has a full time job where he makes most of his money, or is retired and has an amount set aside for AP and he can live off the rest of his savings for the rest of his life....or something along those lines.
That being said, I don't think there is an income requirement for recreational APs, since their job should be providing enough income for them. If their other job is not providing enough income for them (and they are living paycheck to paycheck), AP is probably not the smartest venture, given there is risk. But then again, I'm not in that situation so I don't really know.
For a professional AP, I think the income requirement is higher than regular 9-5 job working people. For one, you don't know what's going to happen -- your plays can vanish overnight, and although that isn't likely, it would be devastating to your income. If you get in a car accident and legs are paralyzed, you're going to have a very tough time being a professional AP, or at least I'd imagine. If something devastating happens, you're going to have to have enough money to support yourself for a while until you can find another means of income. On top of that (at least I'd imagine), you'd need a higher income requirement because ultimately your bankroll is the money you're going to be retiring with. Of course, there are other ways of making an income -- for example, investing your money. There becomes a point when you don't need all of your bankroll to just "sit there", better to use a chunk of your roll to invest in stocks, real estate, other APs, or even start a business or be an investor in a business.
I'm not sure what you mean by "standard of living". Google says it's, "the degree of wealth and material comfort available to a person or community." and I'm still not quite sure what that means. If I'm understanding it properly, it's basically saying, "Do you live your life like a poor person or paycheck to paycheck, or do you have some financial freedom?" In that case, all the professional APs I know, have financial freedom and are not living paycheck to paycheck type lives. They/we all have safety nets -- or rather, if we don't make any money or lose over a few months, no harm no foul (although that'd certainly suck, and has happened).
Not sure what there is to discuss about vacations. I've gone on a few vacations in the past few years. Never had a problem with going on vacation and taking time off from APing -- benefit of being on a team is someone else can fill in the gap if I or someone else goes out of town.
Oh great...soon LarryS will join to argue endlessly over what the meaning of "professional" is...and then what the meaning of "is" is.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS__
Larry S????
Rent, utilities, cable, internet and phone runs me $700 a month. I'm a frugal liver. It's an AP move because I can't predict the future and what the opportunities will or will not be. I've personally had the crappiest of years this year. Only 48K gross. It's mainly because I took the whole summer off. I guess you could call that a vacation. Expenses on roadtrips (gas, hotel, meals) runs about 20% of the earn. I consider my bankroll, low six figures, to be my 401K. I add to it as much as I can. I'm just middle class. And I'm happy with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
And here's a dirty little secret. Any idiot with a $2000 bankroll can do what I do. That is, if they know the plays.
PS: I've been eligible for SS for almost two years now but still haven't filed.
Considering time and time again you self-proclaimed yourself the KING of KINGS when it came to machine AP, what could we uninformed (non ap) gambling fools (me for one) expect other less talented machine AP’s to pull in?Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
I’ve read on forums where a well-known alleged forum AP lost a 6-digit cash bankroll in a safety box when the twin towers went down. Some saying they were making more than their lawyer, doctor, etc. I was told of a 50k to 70k play being made in less than 10 hours that went on for weeks. AP’s bragging how they get to fly around the globe in first class, and how the casinos pay for their 5 star RFB / shows either comped or earned by play.
Are today's casinos this fn lame? Are they that far out of touch of what’s actually taking place in their own casinos? Are their billion dollar investments in today's modern technology, surveillance, game monitoring, dealer observance, meaningless when it comes to AP's?
The exposed claim to fame AP move made by the knuckle head Phil Ivey and that woman while playing baccarat is what many AP’s fall back on for proof of great success. I’d like to know how many AP’s would have been able to put all those needed conditions together to even try and pull that off. The only reason the casinos did it, was cause their Intel confirmed Ivey was a fn degenerate gambling idiot. (and still is) We know how the courts ruled, but regardless how anyone views this, edge sorting appears to be one less play the AP’s had, now gone.
So, Mickey I guess my question to the King of AP machine plays would be, why with your talents would you settle for a simple middle class life in the middle of Montana? I know because I read your posts where you also expose your love for alcohol, loose woman, etc. Why wouldn’t you want to be flying first class around the world in designer clothes, staying in five star resorts, drinking and eating all you want for free, while screwing beautiful top of the line woman readily available and not like some of the woman you yourself described in frightening detail?
My guess is your post might be one of the more honest AP posts ever written. I believe the James Grosjean, Phil Ivey, MIT teams, days are dwindling. There certainly will be no end of attempts by gamblers. But, with all the aid the casinos have technically along with just regular gamblers have just by reading forums on the WWW, I suspect most AP plays will eventually be prevented by the casinos, (at least the ones they care about) or by to many AP’s catching on and killing plays which already is being spoke about often.
I guess the same question blackhole asks of mickey crimm could be asked of Edgar Allan Poe. If you can do A, B, and C and make this amount of money or get this amount of respect, why do what you do when the tangible rewards (to the consumer mind) seem so much less?
These are personal choices about what to do with one's limited time, energy, and lifespan.
Some people don't dig first class flights, designer clothes, and Russian supermodels (oh, sorry, almost made this a political post). Or they've seen people crash and burn aspiring to do just that. As Clint Eastwood says in Magnum Force, a man's got to know his limitations
I mean, since we're in the Christmas spirit and all, Matthew 4:1-11.
redietz,
Thanks for your personal opinion, but looking forward to Mickeys.
Can I ask you a question and get an honest answer? Do you smoke a lot of weed? I hear the crap them smoke today is really out there.
BH, your post is certainly interesting. I'll try to answer all the questions. My calling myself the king of AP's is just bravado. My personal "best day" as an AP was in August of 2007 where I netted 37k in less than 24 hours. Gambling machines in Montana is a 1.3 Billion dollar industry. I fleeced them for 48K this year. There is only one other AP I know that works Montana and he isn't making any more than me. If you look at what we earn compared to what the industry earns we are just a couple of fleas on a camel's back. With our income level we just are not hurting the industry.
About living in Montana not exactly a big time gambling destination. You mentioned James Grosjean who many, including myself, consider to be the best AP out there today, and has worked all the big time casinos around the world. James has said that some of his best plays were so far out in the middle of nowhere that his cell phone wouldn't work. I guess I have that in common with him.
Why have I settled for a middle class life in Montana? I think my age has something to do with it. I'm pushing 64. I know I have the talent to go much higher. But I'm just not willing to do what it takes to go higher anymore. I'm happy with living in Montana and with what I have.
BH, about all this supposed bigtime AP stuff going on in the country. I consider myself to be one of a very rare breed. My guess is there are less than 200 people in this country that do what I do. That means we are not really hurting the industry at all. We just don't put that big a dent into them.
PS: The reason I haven't filed for SS yet is a pride thing. Once I file I can no longer say my entire income is derived from gambling.
Funny stuff all around. People actually wanting to believe the stories Mickey makes up--this time a fantasy about himself....and even THAT lacks dignity.
Mickey HOLDING OFF on collecting SS? Ha! First off, you have to actually work and have FICA tax deducted from your paychecks, and this is where mickey "fake-storied" himself into another one of his corners. How many times has he bragged about being the "AP's AP" with phony stories of "gambling lore" in the '80's & '90's? So that might give the clown about ten years of low-paying slug jobs, and who here thinks a drifter of this type ever had the ability and wherewithal to go out and get a job? And the amount of SS one gets is based on income. So please forgive me if I LMAO!!
Point is, while he babbles on about why he "doesn't take SS yet because of xxxxx" what the real world tells us is even if he DID draw on it, he wouldn't be seeing more than a hundred bucks a month. Best guess is he's holding back because he is claiming to make what is it--$48k yearly now, after previously saying he had a 6-figure income every year, and he never files a tax return even though the IRS requires ALL gambling income to be reported. No doubt he's fibbing and 100% collects welfare, living assistance, food stamps, and is on Medicaid. I've already confirmed half of it, and now that he claimed to be making money every recent year, he's talked himself into trouble. I've already submitted this info and this forum's postings to the IRS.
Almost forgot: the funniest part of all this is how even when Mickey makes this income stuff up, he thinks "$48k" is some kind of middle class. I get two thirds of that amount in SS alone after Medicare deductions! And since when can anyone use a "low six figure" supposed bankroll as retirement?
Conclusion: mickey is as low a class slob as he portrays himself out to be, and he pisses away his Obama income on booze and gambling. I'd say women, but he's a lifetime loser in that dept. as well.
Rob, God bless you, you do know "mickey crimm" isn't his actual name, right?
I had to laugh, a guy with a fake name, sending a report in to the IRS on another guy with a fake name about some happy horseshit he saw a guy posting on the internet. Even though he says the stories are made up. Again, you can't make this shit up.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Rob was able to stay away almost a full day from posting though, even thought he was going away till after the first, family calls etc. He still had to come back to get his fix though. My guess is Rob is never too far away from his internet connection and Mickey has him hooked.
Maybe those comments about the his wife are not too far off.
That's your guess, but from what I've seen, Mickey is the one that's hooked...between him and Rob it's not even close.Quote:
Originally Posted by james40
I have some problems and comments about this post of Rob's.
I don't know if Mickey's story is fake or not, but Rob is correct that you have to have declared employment income to have Social Security contributions, and it does take many years of contributions to build up any significant amount of social security. I'm also 64 (65 in a few months) and if I were to start collecting SS now, even with a 5% penalty for claiming SS before age 66 my monthly benefit would be about $2,500 a month, and I have had the maximum SS income for contributions for many, many years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Actually $48K a year is certainly middle class and depending on the neighborhood Mickey lives in that could be a very comfortable life. Several months ago I considered moving to Vegas. I found very nice two bedroom, two bath condos in the Summerlin area priced at $78,000 and I fell in love with a great rental community in the Summerlin area with a two bedroom, two bath apartment in a complex with an outdoor pool and an indoor pool, plus tennis and greenspace priced at $990 a month. A one-bedroom in the same community was $895 a month. $48K is about $1,000 a week which can easily afford that rental community, and I am going to guess that in Montana the cost of rentals could be even lower.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
Now regarding the comments about forwarding info from the forum to the IRS. Are you kidding me? The last person on this forum who wants any kind of link to the IRS even though he claims to have a relative working for the IRS would be Rob Singer who claimed he managed to hoodwink the IRS into thinking groceries and backyard parties and dining out with his wife were business expenses. I'm not saying Rob didn't get away with it once, but if he has any brains he wants to keep this dust under the rug.
I hope you all realize, that since an AP is considered self employed, they do pay quarterly taxes. That includes FICA.
From the IRS website:Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
Self-employed individuals generally must pay self-employment tax (SE tax) as well as income tax. SE tax is a Social Security and Medicare tax primarily for individuals who work for themselves. It is similar to the Social Security and Medicare taxes withheld from the pay of most wage earners. In general, anytime the wording "self-employment tax" is used, it only refers to Social Security and Medicare taxes and not any other tax (like income tax).
The question becomes does Mickey declare his income from gambling?
Quote:
Originally Posted by jbjb
Personally, if anyone here believes that Rob.Singer would go out of his way to contact the IRS even if he knew who Mickey Crimm is, and that the IRS would listen, care, or pursue it, would confirm you have rocks between your ears, and should request a scan of your skull before you hurt someone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Once I was being falsely charged and investigated by the U.S. Attorney’s Office, SEC, and the IRS. All charges were dropped but the IRS was called in during the investigation suspecting I could have evaded paying taxes and facilitating tax evasion for someone else. The IRS would never go away and I had to hire separate and specialized tax lawyers to deal with them.
None of the IRS claims could actually be confirmed without a doubt, and eventually it always comes down to some type of settlement with no charges to end the case. Additional Legal fees vs. Settlement is usually an easy decision. Settlement is the safer bet.
My tax returns since the time they actually meant anything, were always done by accountants. My returns (never knew how far back they went) were scrutinized and involved a couple of different agents.
For many years, my wife and I had signed many W2’s at casinos. Every year we had confirmed wins, (most from her slot play) I would file casino win/loss statements against the wins. The loss side of any statement was always overwhelming any wins. I remember my accountant telling me how it might not fly. Yet, during the entire investigation other than one comment made by an agent when he and I were sitting at the table waiting for everyone to get back from a break, he said about the year we were already and still discussing quote, “wow, looks like you had a bad year gambling” other than that comment, never once did he or anyone else ever discuss any of the win / loss statements. My guess is they will work if you could back up the losses.
I also would predict, regardless what all you willing and righteous gambling taxpayers want to claim, 99.999% of all gamblers will never file unrecorded cash wins. Also, most if not all gamblers are certain to avoid SAR’s and CTR’s especially at banks and casinos. Personally, I don’t think any casino would blow any whistles on good customers, but I still wouldn’t trust them.
Is Mickey paying taxes? Really guys are you fn serious talking about this in any serious way? First prove to me any self-proclaimed AP even wins consistently. Then we’ll discuss taxes and social security.
99.999% of gamblers avoid SARs and CTRs? I understand avoiding a CTR, but no way do 99,999 in 100k gamblers avoid CTRs. Hell, there probably aren't even that many gamblers who play big enough to try to avoid a CTR. Not sure what you mean by avoiding a SAR.....that doesn't even make sense.
Rob would probably go out of his way to contact the IRS. Idk about any of the other stuff (if they'd listen & pursue it). Then again, Rob has a way of making up stories....everything he says should be taken with a grain of salt.
SAR / Suspicious Activity Report is when a bank notices suspicious irregular or regular transactions in your account, and notify the treasury department. Unlike, signing a Currency Transaction Report when cash transaction is over 10k, the bank files a SAR without you knowing about it, and the treasury (feds) investigate you, all under the pretense of money laundering.
I stand by 99% of all gamblers will avoid cash CTR's.
I'm not sure how relevant this is to the points made, but I believe Rob's son-in-law works for the IRS. Is that correct, Alan?
Slight correction, he SAYS his SIL works for the IRS. It's just another unverified claim. My SIL works for V. Putin. See how easy it is?Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
(To be clear I don't have a SIL that works for V. Putin).
I recall Rob saying his son in law works for the IRS.
My own history with the IRS and Cash Transaction Reports:
About 13 years ago when I had a website called MoreDeals.com with partners (CBS made me get rid of it when I worked for CBS), the website company was audited by the IRS. As part of the audit, our personal tax returns were also audited. Two IRS auditors sat in our accountant's office for two days going over the website's books and our personal tax returns. My tax returns included the year when I had $1.29-million in W2Gs plus I reported my non-W2G wins and I showed a loss for the year, which was honest and true. Our accountant was concerned that my gambling would raise a red flag, but it didn't. In fact, there was no comment from the IRS auditors about our personal returns or our business return -- everything was on the up-and-up.
I later discussed this with some high ranking IRS folks who said to me that unless you won the lottery or megabucks their assumption is everyone loses at casinos.
Frankly, I agree with the IRS high ranking folks. Even with my two $100,000 royals over two years I still have a loss gambling. It's not a big loss, but it's a loss. In retrospect, had I quit each year after I hit those $100,000 royals I would have had modest profits on the year -- not big profits -- because I lost money prior to hitting the big ones.
Regarding CTRs: A few months ago I had a nice run at Caesars and went to the local bank branch in Vegas with about $15,000 in cash. The teller filled out a CTR. What bothered me was that the teller said on the form that I was a TV producer -- and did not indicate these were winnings from a casino. I was concerned about that because I don't want the IRS to think I accept cash in my TV business.
Regarding the so-called APs: yeah I think they could have a profit because they are not recreational players like I am and treat their play as a business with serious discipline. I believe Rob Singer when he says he had a profit of, on average, $100,000 a year. Although when he tells me he wrote off all the profits with business expenses such as groceries and going out to dinner with his wife, I become very skeptical about everything. I also believe that certain professional poker players who win mega tournaments with payoffs of $100,000 or more can also be profitable players.
I have serious doubts about the profits of so-called low-limit APs. I have a friend who describes himself as an AP but plays only 25-cent video poker and low-limit poker. Several times he has told me he had a bad run and was broke.
Once? Wasn't it for 10 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
He might have claimed those deductions every year, but I think he was audited only once.Quote:
Originally Posted by a2a3dseddie
Former son in law. Per Rob's own words his daughter dumped her husband and kids in Arizona and ran off to Minnesota with another man.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Ah, I knew there was a reason Rob always mentioned all the wife / marriage stuff. It's like a girl who has "daddy issues"....except Rob has daughter issues! I wonder if that guy she ran off to Minnesota with is a black.....oh the agony Rob must be in.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
The washwomen from GF have taken control of this thread.
It's been my pleasure reviving this forum once again!
Alan, think back. How often have I wrote that while you remain stupefied over the tax credits I took on Schedule C for all ten years of filing as a business (2000 thru 2009) they were all legal and followed the IRS guidelines....and I utilized certain tools to gain access to every legal loophole--if that's what you might want to call it. No you may never get over it, but constantly portraying it as illegal is bad reporting.
Surprise! mickey's paid attention! However, my daughter didn't "run off" with some MN. guy. She got divorced, then got involved and got married to someone living in the tundra. Her ex certainly was and still is at the IRS and we remain close.
RS__ as usual you make no sense because of a lack of experience in basically everything. However, while we recently celebrated our 38th, seeing how our daughter's generation is so casual with divorce naturally is troubling. I don't expect most it anyone here to comprehend our long and happy marriage because from what I've seen, most of you follow losing gamblers' curses which include being losers in relationships that amount to anything. Talking about having "girlfriends" actually proves my point. A bunch of old farts, 40-yr. old + big-talking adolescents, the despicable husbands Dancer & arci turned out to be because of their gambling problems, serial divorcees, and whatever category these self-proclaimed anonymous "AP's" fall into, all show me how fortunate I am that my life situation causes some of you losers and failures to make up what you wish it were like for me. It is more than obvious the effect gambling has on the majority of you. And not only has my gambling success irritated most here--our decent personal life is despised. One can only IMAGINE what mickey for instance, goes thru when I pass thru his mind while on his 8th Moose Drool in some dumpy, lonely bar in the middle of nowhere.
Cheers! :) Now please, keep this thread going and going. I'm not here because I wanna be....
Rob's main purpose online, or perhaps only purpose, is to troll people. He's admitted this, too. Why take anything he says as truth? It's clear he has many made up stories (yeah, you sure won $100K+/year for 10 years, mmhmmmm).....I'm starting to think all this talk of his "wife" and "family" is more of his nonsense. Then again, if you look at a picture of Rob and the picture of his wife, you may think "it's meant to be", kinda like when the damn ugliest boy in high school goes to prom with the equally terrifying girl. I mean, come on -- just look at Rob! ahahahaa
Poor Rob. He's become the Rodney Dangerfield of the video poker world.
I was unaware that having a "girlfriend" was a bad thing. But live and learn.
There's a lot of jealousy in his posting. Dancer and Jean Scott have been and remain relevant. Both have several books out, blogs, columns and are still considered VP "Stars". I'm not a big fan of either, I think they are great at self promotion and suckered a lot of people into gambling that should not have tried it.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS__
Rob tried writing books and failed, his columns generated a small buzz and then faded away and now he's down to spending his days on these lonely message boards trying to get some sort of following.
As both he and Dancer are close to the same age, I'm guessing it eats away at Singer how Dancer still has success and Singer is stuck posting on Vegas Casino Talk.
Strangely, Dancer/Singer/Scott all use a million dollars as their standard of success. It's all relative, if I had only made a million in my business over the last 10 years I would have been a horrible failure.
Neither him or his wife outkicked the coverage, but like they say "every pot has a lid".
Too bad about the poor upbringing his daughter had. Maybe if he hadn't been a degenerate gambler all these years, she'd have a better moral center.
Rob must have had an arranged marriage. From looking at his videos it would make sense.
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...pDJdfbZ86Zj16UQuote:
Originally Posted by RS__
Alan this is the only post appropriate enuf to reply to. Rodney was an absolute genius at working the crowd--was he not? The other few guys--we all know silly personal attacks only make the originator feel even more superior because the purpose was served :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I know you're feeling a bit off over my position of how very typical it is for addicted gamblers not to have steady, meaningful relationships. But the proof is in the pudding, as they say. You're the most prolific gambler here, and you've not only been unable to stay married....you basically can't keep any woman around very long. I think that's sad, because while you seem to enjoy arguing nearly all of the time, you're one of the best people I've met in my gambling career. I personally believe you would be in a totally different position in life had you not pissed away so much on gambling according to how the casinos want and expect you to gamble.
Redietz, I'm not knocking girlfriends per se. What's unfortunate, however, is how a number of you here claim to have "girlfriends" at ages where it's just stupid to want to announce such a thing about yourselves. It screams "I'm a middle-aged or old fart loser, who has never been able to keep a woman around due to my gambling problems". And most people over 40 get married after meeting fairly quickly. Look at Dancer as a role model :)
I'm not familiar with that "over 40, let's get married" schtick.
And Rob, for the record, I was married for 25 years.
You had a shot at his daughter. Should have caught her before she moved north.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Rob, I question that I am the most prolific gambler here. I think you gamble way more than I do.
Proves my point. Marriage overwhelmingly doesn't survive when one person takes on a gambling habit, because even if the player doesn't lose money, gambling controls them.Quote:
Originally Posted by redietz
Not picking on Alan, but he's the poster boy for this. Day-in/day-out since I've met him, he lives, breathes, and eats gambling action, whether from actually going to casinos, the incredible ANXIETY of looking forward to going, or when plans are more than a week away, he non-stop talks and reads gambling here and elsewhere on the internet.
Now we can't really tell what's up with the rest of the crowd of anonymous characters around here and on other forums, but what I'm saying is rather obvious. We all know what a wreck Dancer made of his marriage because of gambling. Jean Scott and "Brad" never marry even in their upper 70's, most probably because of financial problems related to gambling. Skip Hughes died in misery because of his wife forcing him to move out of LV, which as he stated almost broke them.
And these are just a few of the histories of public people we know. Think of the trainwrecks that are the thousands of anonymous gambling personalities out there. It's almost as if it's a pre-determined requirement that an overabundant gambling fascination ruin someone's ability to have and/or keep a meaningful relationship. For most people, gambling almost completely takes over the victim's mind, and that spells doom.
But for me....just as I don't operate within the norm of AP gamblers and just about everyone else who plays VP--yet I've been and continue to be very successful at it--I don't operate within the norm when it comes to family or a relationship. Similar to most people outside of the gambling world, I put these things first. Therein lies the reason(s) most gamblers here despise me.
And I couldn't care less :)
Hmmm....I've played on average once every two months over the past year and a half, I don't play higher than $2, and I'm way ahead for that type of play. Over $40k.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Now compare that to someone who has hit TWO $100k royals in the past two years, yet incredibly has LOST money gambling in each of those years! Anyone see the irony of being 7-Stars yet?
" Prolific" may not be the word for it.
Rob let's get real here. First you don't have the income to play at higher limits. Second you forget that my reporting on casinos on my website generates traffic and income. Third I'm paid as a consultant for several Vegas companies that I won't mention.
You gamble more than I do. I recall some of your own $25/coin jackpot photos. I also think you must gamble more than anyone else here unless you have some sort of magic touch that gives you a royal every five hundred or so hands.
Actually ever since I met you I doubted your claims that you hit so many royals and big wins with such a small amount of play.
Alan, you are oh so polite in calling him a liar. Over 5,000 posts here and tens of thousands of posts on various message board and yet he "couldn't care less"? Methinks he cares quite a bit. The jealousy is quite evident in his posts to you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Of course Rob is jealous. He's portraying his life to be what he wants it to be. Why does Rob talk so much about gambling & relationships? Perhaps he has personal experience in that regard.....and comes on here acting like a psychologist. Fact is, his number one goal is to troll people online....and what better way to do that than pretend to have some awesome life, better than all of ours. He thinks we're jealous of him.....I think everyone just feels sad for him.
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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
LOL. Marriage doesn't survive anything, Rob. Everybody dies. But thanks for your brilliant insights.
Bingo. Rob is a poster child for psychological projection. You can see his real life in what he says about other people. The only thing you got wrong is very few people feel the least bit of concern for Robbie. He has brought all his troubles upon himself and living with them is his just reward. Karma is a bitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by RS__
Says the poor broken gambler who had to sit thru and watch his wife suffer as a vegetable in diapers, then die a horrible & painful death in front of the very person responsible for her misery throughout her final few years on this earth.
Good job arci!
waa....waa :)
Oh....if anyone wants to AGAIN VERIFY that Cindy & I are still going strong (actually, stronger) after over 38 years if marriage, feel free to call Red Rock on Christmas Day and ask for her, then call back and ask for me! But my guess is no one will. Imagine how stupid and personally hurt some of the losers I've continually mocked here will feel when they get hit with this reality PROJECTION! Hahaha!!
Alan, you're trying to wiggle out of the picture everyone here knows you've been painting of yourself. I haven't played above $2 in probably 3 years, while you obviously don't talk about your play at that level unless & until you hit a big winner you can post a pIc of. I get that you try to generate traffic, but to what end, really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
Of course my income isn't compatible with playing hi-limits because I'm retired. But we withdraw $8000 to $10,000/ mo. from our 401k's to travel like we do. I could easily piss that away into the $25 machines like you've been doing, but our life (which RS__ clearly will never have the opportunity of living and which arci systematically has handed over to the Mn. Indian casinos) is no longer predicated on casino entertainment.
BTW, anytime I get arci up and out if his well-deserved bed of self-pity to come on and show his irritation with my--and esp. my wife's--continued life together, it's a great victory laced with an incredible amount of satisfaction. And one can just HEAR the oozing of envy emitting from the lives of the anonymous.
Red, think about it. Just how stupid do you feel saying an old man like you has a GIRLFRIEND? Maybe you should have thought about that embarrassment prior to getting hit with the gambling bug during your "25-yr. marriage".
Rob it seems to me that if you include your upcoming Christmas visit to Red Rock and your last trip to Vegas which took you to Henderson and the Rio you've spent at least six days in Vegas in a month. I haven't spent six days in Vegas over the last three months. Who gambles more?
Then dragging his poor wife to another casino on Christmas day. Bouncing around mid tier casinos with his long suffering wife. Such is his vision of family time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I don't see it as an embarrassment, Rob. I'm a widower. But Merry Christmas to you, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
As for the gambling bug -- I'm not sure what you're referring to. You spend much more time in casinos than I do. You play much more vp (the "crack cocaine of gambling") than I do. I probably played 30 hours of vp in 2016. And 25 of that was on "Senior Days" at Boyd. I don't play any other casino games -- with the exception of a poker tournament last trip at the Flamingo. I finished third. I average about one Las Vegas poker tournament a year. No craps, no slots, no blackjack, no three-card whatever. No NBA betting, no college hoops betting (except futures), no baseball betting (except futures), no hockey betting.
Sounds boring. It is.
Look, if you really wanted to prove to Alan how little vp you played while hitting those royals, you could use your CIA-trained abilities to pass a polygraph regarding that question. I do not, however, think we're going to see a "I'm Rob Singer proving how little vp I played" moment.
Rob is going to a casino for Christmas....but is trying to say how little VP or gambling he does. Yup, that makes sense.
Rob has never told us in which states he is legally allowed to pack. In which states are you legally alllowed to pack in Rob? You little punk little bitch.
Rob, you are going to run Your ass into a situation that you are not going to be able to shoot yourself out off. Everyone knows what a coward you are. C'mon up and get your ass shot off punk. I was always so kind. But now its bullets for Rob Singer. If the motherfucker wants to play that hard then now his life is on the line.
Wanted Dead or Alive. Kill Robert Harry Argintino. I'm coming for your punk ass, Rob.
Mickeycrimm I banned you for your violent threats when I owned the site. I hope Dan takes action -- or that you apologize immediately.
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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer
You know, it finally dawned on me why Rob has recently amped up his giving Alan a hard time regarding marriage, discipline, and so on.
For many years, this site was where Rob could post photos of alleged big winners while explaining how little he played. Regardless of whether people bought the math or the likelihood of it, the fact there were photos of actual big winners carried some kind of visceral (if not mathematical or intellectual) credibility.
Then Alan shows pics of and reports his own bigger winners, and honestly reports that he has not had winning years despite the big winners pictured.
Suddenly the visceral effects of Rob posting winners vanishes. If Alan has just as many big winners, and reports losing, then it certainly puts Rob's reportage in a different light.
Alan undercut Rob's credibility without actually trying to do so.
Alan, you've protected Rob "the snitch" Argentino for a lot of years. It amazes me how someone of your caliber thinks that thoroughly disgusting piece of human garbage has any redeeming qualities. And here you are trying to protect him again. You really need to snap out of it, Alan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
You might want to throttle back the public threats Mick. Come on, the guys an object of pity at this point. A gambling addict dragging his poor wife around Nevada, checking into casino after casino and calling it "family time". I can't think of anything sadder than spending Christmas day in a smoke filled, nasty casino.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
It's a bit over the top, but I don't think Dan has any great love for the Rob. Throwing around the degenerate label tends to piss people off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson
I think you are right, James. I take the threats back. I know it's no excuse but I was drunk last night. But I still consider Rob to be a thoroughly despicable person. I get tired of taking his insults.
You just feed the troll when you make comments. Trolls love to stir the shit and then come back later to see how much effect it has. It feeds the troll ego. I pity the guy at this point, the heavy hitters in gambling circles ignore him and the only attention he gets these days are trolling these backwater gambling sites. Don't feed the trolls.Quote:
Originally Posted by mickeycrimm
Just hope Rob and His wife enjoy the Feast Buffet there at Red Rock, surrounded by his family.
Now I'm off to be with real family for a nice get together with dinner later. Presents with the kids tomorrow. No casino's, no VP, no trolls.
Everyone have a Merry Christmas.
Could you image if he was one of the roulette trolls?!?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by james40
What's a roulette troll and what do they preach?