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Blackhole and I talking about cheating and race fixing may have given some the wrong impression. First of all, race fixing usually involves multiple trainers and owners "stiffing" their horses to wind up with set result so that the trifectas and other gimmick bets pay huge. This takes a lot of collusion--think the Black Sox Scandal. While this does happen it is not that prevalent. On the other hand, there is probably only a small number of races in which illegal drugs or other supplements are not being used. I don't consider that race fixing--the trainer is trying to win at any cost. While the use of drugs may effect the outcome, it is different than trying to lose.

I agree with Key that the percentage of losing horse players is extremely high. I do not agree with Kewl's assessment that they are all losers and non-professionals based upon what he sees at the race book. There are a lot of pros, many way better than I will ever be, and they for the most part are quiet and keep to themselves. They also keep their opinions to themselves or their group. The loudmouths that you see at the race book are exactly what you think all horseplayers are. However, you are not seeing the pros. I socialize at the track but I don't discuss my picks other than with one or two friends who rely on me. I also try to avoid hearing the loudmouth's picks because I then find myself doing the Richard Dreyfuss and taking myself off of horses that I like just because I know the idiot touting that horse is a loser. So yes--the losers you see in the race book are just that.

Kewl--the inaccuracies in the workouts etc. is probably overstated. Yes they exist. But any pro does not rely on those numbers. They either keep their own charts and/or watch every race. I know what I see--I don't need the racing form to tell me. I no longer keep my own charts because I am getting too old for the time that it takes. But I have decades of charts in organized boxes in my basement. I do try to watch every race but that also takes a ton of time. That is a reason to limit the number of tracks or races that one plays. But please don't have the misconception that we are all losers and that you can't beat the game. There are many doing just that.

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Hey, this is probably a huge ask...but would it be possible to post a picture of just a random one of these charts so I have an idea of what you're talking about?

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Would the owners of the horses who are NOT going to win ever be told so they could get sizable bets on the horses who are going to win?

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Straight answer is no. You could make a long shot a favorite with a big mouth. There day will come.

It's always and only about the winner. Exacta and triple plays are on you. When your trainer gets the future racing condition books a lot of handicapping goes on between us and we discuss why a certain future race might be a good spot. We don’t go to any race and at the gate give the horse a line of coke. Drugging a horse is all based on the conditions at any given time and if it even has any effect on them. If something does work the big question is; could you get away with it?

I’ve never been involved or heard of a race where 3 different trainers were trying to bring 3 different horses on the board. If one trainer doesn’t have a legitimate chance of winning (which always comes first) they will help another trainer with a good chance, like sending their horse out front in crazy fractions only to burn out the front runner who does have a chance in order to help the others closer.

The drugs, collusion, cured sicknesses, type information never came around enough. You could go a month or 2 without a good push. You have to have balls and money to capitalize on those situations.

Don’t forget, because you know something special about a certain horse, there might be something even more special about a different horse you know nothing about. There are races you know are going to be a lock like the one I posted about before.

Going for manicure, and pedicure. Be back later.

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Hey, this is probably a huge ask...but would it be possible to post a picture of just a random one of these charts so I have an idea of what you're talking about?

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Heres what a race condition might look like :

CLAIMING - Thoroughbred
FOR FILLIES AND MARES FOUR YEARS OLD AND UPWARD WHICH HAVE NEVER WON THREE RACES. Weight, 123 lbs.
Non-winners Of A Race Since July 1, 2020 Allowed 3 lbs. Claiming Price $14,000 (1.5% Aftercare Assessment Due At Time Of Claim Otherwise Claim Will Be Void). (NW3 L) Claiming Price: $14,000
Seven Furlongs On The Dirt Current Track Record: (Artax - 1:20.04 - May 2, 1999)
Purse: $28,000


Also when they talk about extra or less pounds, that could be huge. 1/5 of a second difference in a race is one whole horse length.

Welp, turns out we have Kitec.
I'm not sure how much it will cost but most likely 7 to 15 grand to replumb the entire house.
RIP.

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Welp, turns out we have Kitec.
I'm not sure how much it will cost but most likely 7 to 15 grand to replumb the entire house.
RIP.

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Fuck man. Strikes and gutters, ups and downs, 18 yo’s and 30 losses in a row you know.

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Welp, turns out we have Kitec.
I'm not sure how much it will cost but most likely 7 to 15 grand to replumb the entire house.
RIP.

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Some insurance companies will pay for or subsidize the replacement in order to prevent paying out a future claim. That shit is bad news.

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Some insurance companies will pay for or subsidize the replacement in order to prevent paying out a future claim. That shit is bad news.

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Time Limit ran out in 2020 to file a claim but Covid hit so they didn't finalize all claims.
I think this gave homeowners more time to file late.
We were getting mail about this problem back in 07/08 and I was like, its a Scam lol.
I kept throwing those postcards and letters away.
I was saying, nobody is going to replumb this whole house... ridiculous lol.
I was telling my wife, I'm not letting anyone come in here and bust holes everywhere and change out the fittings lol.
Turns out I was wrong as usual and that wouldn't work anyway... you need to rip all this pipe out... not just the fittings.
I guess this is a pretty serious issue and many people haven't been paid more than a few hundred dollars till the whole thing finalizes.
I think Clark County is different because they settled for a different amount.
Some issue about IPEX says its Nevada's Hard Water and Nevada says its faulty fittings/pipes.
So they settled for 90 Million but won't allow any more payments or claims to be made after that amount.
You probably know all this.

I figured it out today when I cut the hot and cold water pipes to install the Shower Valve and Shower Pipe/Head.
I noticed the pipe was able to bend in any shape and when I cut it I could see the aluminum ring inside.
I was thinking, this shit isn't the same as the stuff I bought.
And I was always curious why the colors were a different blue and orange instead of red.
I would of figured the two plumbers and professional remodeler would of spotted what this was right off the bat.
The plumbers didn't know what the orange pipes were, thought they were for sprinkler systems only lol.
Good thing I didn't let the pro install fittings and run PEX.
lol, he claimed to have 35 years in the business and didn't spot this issue??
Hack, Liar or Both.

I threw two Shark Bite Caps on the pipes and they are holding for now.
Shark Bites aren't made for this pipe as the size is a .05 differential.
When I figured out I had Pex-Al-Pex, I kept searching online for fittings and was coming up empty.
No information on how to connect Pex-Al-Pex to Copper or PEX.
All I found was this stuff is used by a different company in Europe and they use a different brand pipe and a 2000 dollar tool to crimp different type of double O-Ring, Steel Capped Fittings.
After 45 minutes of research I realized we had KITEC and it is a very serious issue.
Might as well be Cancer for the House.
No Biggy... Just Life... Good thing to find out this way and not have a pipe completely burst on us.
Hopefully, we can get it all replumbed before that happens as this stuff is rated to have 100% failure, eventually, given enough time.
The worst part is I basically have to return all this sand, cement, tile and other supplies lol.
That's a lot of heavy lifting, driving and returning.
I guess I'll just have professionals remodel everything.
I'm figure 60k total for 2 bathrooms remodeled and whole house replumbed and that doesn't count if I will have to remodel the kitchen.
Copper Pipe under the Kitchen Sink but who knows what is behind the walls or in the floor.
I figure the real nightmare is if they buried KITEC under the foundation or not.
lol, guess I really do have to tear or burn this whole house down.
Wife didn't listen to me for the last 3 years telling her we should sell this house and move to the country to buy a farm.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTU1hsNIDfg&t=236s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ6wT-tg5iY

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I guess one follow-up question to this part would be---on these infrequent exacta plays---how high can they get the rough probability of success? Would it be by way of stacking a race such that it consists entirely or horses trained by those three guys.

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All exotic bets are never the concern. The win (1st) is all that matters and the only mission. Once you start trying to figure out who comes in second, you’re gambling. That doesn’t mean we won’t try.

Exactas could pay big money. If you’re certain you have the winner at a big price we’ll go after exactas. Catching a good exacta could turn a good win into a huge win.

Not sure how often we would catch any exactas. The amount of money wagered on the win bet was always the only concern while exacta bets were never anything you thought about till after the race. Although, if you catch the occasional big exacter bet it becomes a good night for a champagne dinner with wife, where you remind her how smart you are. (One liners should be coming)

You would never be able to full a race with a couple trainers. In fact, getting two different friendly trainers with a horse each in the same race is not easy. A coupled entry where the same owner could enter two of his own horses in the same race happens often. One of the horses would always help the one expected to win any way he could if there already wasn’t a plan in place. Also, if you bet on anyone of them you also get the other horse included on same bet, both with the same price and numbers.

A whole bunch of different things at different times must fall in place before considering why a certain horse should win. When it does happen you just hope your part of the small group that presently actually do know about what took place.

Tips are all over the track. Someone always knows someone, and if you look around enough you could get a tip on every horse in the race. Lol

Also, every push on a horse doesn’t mean it’s a long shot. Many go off as favorites or close to it.

Betting and winning on certain conditions were the main source of income. Without it you really wouldn’t take the abuse for very long. Most of it ends up back into the trainer’s coffers one way or the other.

Would I do it again knowing what I know now? Maybe at a more serious level.

Not as bad as I thought.
About 5k to replumb.
Takes 2 to 3 days total.
Feels like good news.

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Not as bad as I thought.
About 5k to replumb.
Takes 2 to 3 days total.
Feels like good news.

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I think that is very good news for you and your wife. Maybe now you won't blame her so much for not agreeing with the farm move.

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I think that is very good news for you and your wife. Maybe now you won't blame her so much for not agreeing with the farm move.

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Hey fuckhead,,,, weren't you one of the whiny ass bitches that was upset with talking about bath remodeling in this thread?

Shut the fuck up.

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I think that is very good news for you and your wife. Maybe now you won't blame her so much for not agreeing with the farm move.

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Hey fuckhead,,,, weren't you one of the whiny ass bitches that was upset with talking about bath remodeling in this thread?

Shut the fuck up.

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I don't know, but lately Bosox is coming across as a rude Asshole. He used to be normal and mature....

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I think that is very good news for you and your wife. Maybe now you won't blame her so much for not agreeing with the farm move.

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Hey fuckhead,,,, weren't you one of the whiny ass bitches that was upset with talking about bath remodeling in this thread?

Shut the fuck up.

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Wow, tough guy lolololol

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I think that is very good news for you and your wife. Maybe now you won't blame her so much for not agreeing with the farm move.

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Hey fuckhead,,,, weren't you one of the whiny ass bitches that was upset with talking about bath remodeling in this thread?

Shut the fuck up.

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Wow, tough guy lolololol

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Wow, another idiot.....lol

Interesting Note about Shark Bites.
Both Caps are holding strong.
Kind of impressive if you know anything about KITEC.
I'd gamble on them if KITEC didn't have a 100% failure rate given enough time.

Golly gee, yesterday the plastic piece that connects my shower wand to the metal shower pipe broke and I had to replace it.

Off to Ace Hardware; six bucks later, part in hand, I put it on but it leaked.

Damn.

Gooped the threads up with blue Permatex gasket sealer, screwed it on, and am letting it cure for a couple days.

No using that shower in the meantime but who cares, I'm married.

What's she goona do, divorce me?

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Golly gee, yesterday the plastic piece that connects my shower wand to the metal shower pipe broke and I had to replace it.

Off to Ace Hardware; six bucks later, part in hand, I put it on but it leaked.

Damn.

Gooped the threads up with blue Permatex gasket sealer, screwed it on, and am letting it cure for a couple days.

No using that shower in the meantime but who cares, I'm married.

What's she goona do, divorce me?

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Not divorce you, but MAYBE keep her distance from you until you take a shower....

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I think that is very good news for you and your wife. Maybe now you won't blame her so much for not agreeing with the farm move.

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Hey fuckhead,,,, weren't you one of the whiny ass bitches that was upset with talking about bath remodeling in this thread?

Shut the fuck up.

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MaxPen, It was a misinterpretation on your part. In reality, I seriously do not care what subject comes up in any thread. I got used to that a while back when out of nowhere a few threads were suddenly inundated with Sportsbook betting posts which after a while no one gave a rat's ass. However, I thought The Boz was being hypocritical for me talking shit to KewlJ in the thread and ignoring the bathroom remodeling posts.

Now on a serious matter, supposedly you were going to keep Rob Singer on a very short rope provided that he behaved himself, or else a very huge storm was going to be unleashed upon him. Rob Singer, every chance he gets calls you out that you are full of shit. He is not worried about what you have to say in the least. Apparently, you rather completely forget the matter. Are you a phony without a story? Plenty of people think so.

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I think that is very good news for you and your wife. Maybe now you won't blame her so much for not agreeing with the farm move.

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Hey fuckhead,,,, weren't you one of the whiny ass bitches that was upset with talking about bath remodeling in this thread?

Shut the fuck up.

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I don't know, but lately Bosox is coming across as a rude Asshole. He used to be normal and mature....

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Tasha, since you have zero knowledge about the game of blackjack you should shut the fuck up. At least I do not go around suggesting that you should be banned on various forums.

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I think that is very good news for you and your wife. Maybe now you won't blame her so much for not agreeing with the farm move.

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Hey fuckhead,,,, weren't you one of the whiny ass bitches that was upset with talking about bath remodeling in this thread?

Shut the fuck up.

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MaxPen, It was a misinterpretation on your part. In reality, I seriously do not care what subject comes up in any thread. I got used to that a while back when out of nowhere a few threads were suddenly inundated with Sportsbook betting posts which after a while no one gave a rat's ass. However, I thought The Boz was being hypocritical for me talking shit to KewlJ in the thread and ignoring the bathroom remodeling posts.

Now on a serious matter, supposedly you were going to keep Rob Singer on a very short rope provided that he behaved himself, or else a very huge storm was going to be unleashed upon him. Rob Singer, every chance he gets calls you out that you are full of shit. He is not worried about what you have to say in the least. Apparently, you rather completely forget the matter. Are you a phony without a story? Plenty of people think so.

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You don't pay attention very well.

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Hey fuckhead,,,, weren't you one of the whiny ass bitches that was upset with talking about bath remodeling in this thread?

Shut the fuck up.

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I don't know, but lately Bosox is coming across as a rude Asshole. He used to be normal and mature....

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Tasha, since you have zero knowledge about the game of blackjack you should shut the fuck up. At least I do not go around suggesting that you should be banned on various forums.

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We don’t often agree BoSox, but anyone who even acknowledges this retard is a lessor person from it. It is literally too stupid to be insulted and keeps coming back for more.

I have no clue what KJ sees in it. 😂😂😂😂😂

And as much as Blackhole has tried to contribute to this thread, it’s always going to end up in the same place.

That said, we are all guilty of making this place exactly what it is, and he knows it as much as anyone.

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And as much as Blackhole has tried to contribute to this thread, it’s always going to end up in the same place.

That said, we are all guilty of making this place exactly what it is, and he knows it as much as anyone.

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That`s what happens when you get 2 handywomen that only want to talk about playing with their little pipes

I have a comment on the bathroom remodeling mentions.

I have been very interested in about what and how things have been going along with some of the pictures. And the reason is--inasmuch as the misguided and foolish guesses about where we live in the Phoenix area when we're there--I had two full bathrooms (not the master) in one of our homes in Glendale fully remodeled within the past 8 months. The only difference is I paid a contractor to do them rather than go at it myself. And if I were younger I still would have given it to a contractor to do. If you've had success in life, why the f**k would you struggle with shit like that? That's what doesn't make sense here. Next thing we'll see is how kew replaced his toilet with a double flusher model and saved a hundred bucks in the process. Oh....to be a feared AP in LV.......

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I have a comment on the bathroom remodeling mentions.

I have been very interested in about what and how things have been going along with some of the pictures. And the reason is--inasmuch as the misguided and foolish guesses about where we live in the Phoenix area when we're there--I had two full bathrooms (not the master) in one of our homes in Glendale fully remodeled within the past 8 months. The only difference is I paid a contractor to do them rather than go at it myself. And if I were younger I still would have given it to a contractor to do. If you've had success in life, why the f**k would you struggle with shit like that? That's what doesn't make sense here. Next thing we'll see is how kew replaced his toilet with a double flusher model and saved a hundred bucks in the process. Oh....to be a feared AP in LV.......

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Who is struggling?

Now quit regaling us with your fantasies about multiple houses and go do something productive like sweeping out the camper.

You are struggling you yellow-ass coward. Any "AP" worth his salt wouldn't be trying to imitate some foolish hard working boy with trips to Lowe's and Home Depot to repair bathroom plumbing and modernize white trash walls, mirrors and fixtures. Blackhole had you pegged the minute you tried to impress others with your "do-it-yourself" nonsense. He called you out for supposedly being some self-annointed big deal LV "AP" who never goes anywhere or does anything, who for some reason couldn't afford a contractor to repair your shithole locals bathroom.

Wise up....and get some dignity for Christs sake.

Just because some folks choose to DIY does not automatically mean they could not afford to pay someone else to do it.

I loathe carpentry and gladly hire contractors for that, but when it comes to vehicle repair and maintenance I always try to do it myself when possible.

Tough to tell who really has money; by report old Sam Walton drove the same used pickup for years and lived a fairly plain lifestyle.

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You are struggling you yellow-ass coward. Any "AP" worth his salt wouldn't be trying to imitate some foolish hard working boy with trips to Lowe's and Home Depot to repair bathroom plumbing and modernize white trash walls, mirrors and fixtures. Blackhole had you pegged the minute you tried to impress others with your "do-it-yourself" nonsense. He called you out for supposedly being some self-annointed big deal LV "AP" who never goes anywhere or does anything, who for some reason couldn't afford a contractor to repair your shithole locals bathroom.

Wise up....and get some dignity for Christs sake.

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Rob, sometimes people enjoy doing things on their own it may give you a sense of accomplishment. The labor for remodeling can be expensive if you can do it yourself and save a bunch of money that's an Advantage Play. It's better than spending your downtime at home watching TV or jacking around on the internet. And its fun to learn how to do new things. My kitchen was not too attractive to me when I bought my place, so I ventured out to do it myself, I spent a few hours a day working on it, to make it look more modern. I sent the picture around asking people what they thought it cost to get it done, most people guess between 5,000, 15,000 I laughed since I was able to get it done for less than a thousand.

I hate having workers going in and out of my place, as does my wife. While they are at my place working I would have to be there anyway, so if I'm going to have to be there I mise well just do it myself.

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You are struggling you yellow-ass coward. Any "AP" worth his salt wouldn't be trying to imitate some foolish hard working boy with trips to Lowe's and Home Depot to repair bathroom plumbing and modernize white trash walls, mirrors and fixtures. Blackhole had you pegged the minute you tried to impress others with your "do-it-yourself" nonsense. He called you out for supposedly being some self-annointed big deal LV "AP" who never goes anywhere or does anything, who for some reason couldn't afford a contractor to repair your shithole locals bathroom.

Wise up....and get some dignity for Christs sake.

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Someone is tilted......lol

Did you get the camper swept out yet?

Rob Singer Theme Song...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNmKghTvj0E

If you are going to get into Aimee Mann you might as well listen to this one as well...
She uses all the great one liners like... Wise Up, Save Me, Whatever, Lost is Space and I'm with Stupid.
Interesting Note is that her latest released song in 2021 was titled: "Suicide is Murder."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0V8CpT0Iow

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Hey fuckhead,,,, weren't you one of the whiny ass bitches that was upset with talking about bath remodeling in this thread?

Shut the fuck up.

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I don't know, but lately Bosox is coming across as a rude Asshole. He used to be normal and mature....

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Tasha, since you have zero knowledge about the game of blackjack you should shut the fuck up. At least I do not go around suggesting that you should be banned on various forums.

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I never suggested you be banned on Multiple Forums. I said you were coming off as a rude Asshole when you used to be normal and mature. I don't know why you mentioned Blackjack. I was talking about you ragging and dragging constantly on Kewlj when you didn't use to act like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rw7Jy1ZFBUY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMVTiCKJ2X0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0BhOskAG4E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojfG5i1uFSM

Wow ... Monet is even a bigger asshole than I predicted.

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Wow ... Monet is even a bigger asshole than I predicted.

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That's been known for a long time and I fail to see your point.
If you want to start your very own Horseshit Talking Thread go ahead and start one.
This is the Contributing to Forum Thread and I will continue to Contribute.
Any movie that ends with Frogs flying from the sky is worth discussing.

Nowhere near as effective as the scene in Magnolia but it is still Frogs Falling from the Sky.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSY6_T2oAow

Frog Rain!?
Do frogs fall from the sky when it rains?
Frog Rain is a rare meteorological phenomenon in which frogs get swept up in a storm, travel miles and then fall from the sky when the clouds release the water.
It doesn't happen frequently, but it does happen in parts of the world.

Animal Rain?
Seems more like Reptile or Fish Rain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHz6Wlc2MAI

A couple other ones but not actually raining frogs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhkUnxMvr8Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQMbnqNwV_4

Had some time this evening. So I put the floor in. Whenever I start again. Maybe in a week or so, it should start coming together quickly.

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Had some time this evening. So I put the floor in. Whenever I start again. Maybe in a week or so, it should start coming together quickly.

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Nice Job, looks good.
My situation is still a bit complicated.
I don't want them to cut a huge hole from the outside so I will have to demo the other shower.
Unless they can do half now and half later.
Still a bit of a nightmare but that's life.
Good with the Bad.

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Wow ... Monet is even a bigger asshole than I predicted.

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That's been known for a long time and I fail to see your point.
If you want to start your very own Horseshit Talking Thread go ahead and start one.
This is the Contributing to Forum Thread and I will continue to Contribute.
Any movie that ends with Frogs flying from the sky is worth discussing.

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I couldn’t care less what you post. You’re absolutely correct with the name of the thread, and I would never consider starting my “very own Horseshit Talking Thread.” I know how this place works and expect it. I certainly don’t have any horse questions.

You took my comment wrong. I’ve been here long enough to peg you as an asshole. No different than MaxPad, Kewlj, and a few others. It became obvious being an asshole is a requirement to become a club member.

With that being said, I was just pointing out with my personal opinion that now as even more time went by, your stupidity level was exposed even further. Leading me to conclude “you actually are a bigger asshole than I predicted.”

You and Maxpad could claim how proud you both are all you want for taking on home improvements as a hobby. It looks like a lot of time went by with your Home Depo improvements and things are not going as planned. These are the type of things that happen when assholes who claim to make a living pressing slot machine buttons concentrating on swapping assorted comp cards promptly, and suddenly decide to drive out of their lane.

When you’re dumb enough to think what you guys are posting is impressive is what makes it sad. The impression is not good. If I could make a suggestion, (from what I read) maybe you should consider calling AxelAss for a tip or two. He’ll fix those bathrooms up for peanuts and have people thinking you spent 30K on it.

Your construction attempts are reminding us people that could afford it, how lucky we are not having to claim what you’re doing as an Advantage Play

The use of the fallback word "hobby" is the key here. No one in their right mind has a "hobby" of tearing a bathroom apart and then remodeling it. They only do it because they can't spend or come up with the money it takes to have a licensed contractor do the work professionally. Calling it a hobby is only for self-worth and feel-good encouragements. And everybody who has even been in that position knows it.

These people who anonymously claim to be outsmarting and continuously beating LV casinos by counting cards and hitting buttons with impunity occasionally do show their real hands--albeit unintentionally. Such is the case right here. One must have to have a whole lotta shithouse problems, insufficient finances, and/or a seriously nagging wife to be doing something a better man would just simply hire professionals to do.

Such is the way for the LV geniuses.

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The use of the fallback word "hobby" is the key here. No one in their right mind has a "hobby" of tearing a bathroom apart and then remodeling it. They only do it because they can't spend or come up with the money it takes to have a licensed contractor do the work professionally. Calling it a hobby is only for self-worth and feel-good encouragements. And everybody who has even been in that position knows it.

These people who anonymously claim to be outsmarting and continuously beating LV casinos by counting cards and hitting buttons with impunity occasionally do show their real hands--albeit unintentionally. Such is the case right here. One must have to have a whole lotta shithouse problems, insufficient finances, and/or a seriously nagging wife to be doing something a better man would just simply hire professionals to do.

Such is the way for the LV geniuses.

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It isn't a hobby for me.
I come from a family of tradesmen.
I get these big ideas in my head that I can do it better, faster and cheaper.
It usually turns out bad and I end up calling in a professional.
These days, YouTube makes things a bit worse since they have so much information and make it look easy.
Many contractors have a 3 month or longer wait list currently.
I've always enjoyed manual labor and building things.
I wanted to try and if things went poorly I would just call in the professionals.
I'm mentally ill though.
And a Complete Asshole.

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I'm mentally ill though.
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I'm impressed with your ability to admit how fucked up you are. That's usually the first sign of having a chance to change things.

Good Luck

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I'm mentally ill though.
And a Complete Asshole.

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I'm impressed with your ability to admit how fucked up you are. That's usually the first sign of having a chance to change things.

Good Luck

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It takes a lot of balls for a man to admit his weaknesses/downfalls. Most don't and pretend they are good at everything, plenty of delusional guys out there. To acknowledge and recognize your strengths and faults is half the battle in life.

If he knows he's so fucked up why then doesn't he get help?

Spewing mental illness on a gambling forum is not therapeutic; he probably needs strong drugs and electroconvulsive therapy before he'll be fit to rejoin polite society.

It's one thing to be (allegedly) insightful and another to be proactive about it.

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If he knows he's so fucked up why then doesn't he get help?

Spewing mental illness on a gambling forum is not therapeutic; he probably needs strong drugs and electroconvulsive therapy before he'll be fit to rejoin polite society.

It's one thing to be (allegedly) insightful and another to be proactive about it.

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Fuck Off Cockroach!

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Alas, it seems he's falling further and further into psychosis.

I am a human, not a cockroach.

Please, please get professional help, then come back with your mind wiped clean.

BTW you said you blocked me?

Crazy, man, crazy!

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The use of the fallback word "hobby" is the key here. No one in their right mind has a "hobby" of tearing a bathroom apart and then remodeling it. They only do it because they can't spend or come up with the money it takes to have a licensed contractor do the work professionally. Calling it a hobby is only for self-worth and feel-good encouragements. And everybody who has even been in that position knows it.

These people who anonymously claim to be outsmarting and continuously beating LV casinos by counting cards and hitting buttons with impunity occasionally do show their real hands--albeit unintentionally. Such is the case right here. One must have to have a whole lotta shithouse problems, insufficient finances, and/or a seriously nagging wife to be doing something a better man would just simply hire professionals to do.

Such is the way for the LV geniuses.

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You must have had a real bad experience when you tried remodeling one of your campers. This is like trying to say people shouldn't cut their own lawn or clean their house if they can pay for it. I will probably have about a 120 hours in this by the time it is done. True that I could make much more than a remodel cost if I spent that time in a casino. But I would rather do my own work. Because then I get it my way on my own terms. I have always leaned toward self sufficiency.

Not sure if you know what you did with that post. If my explanation's veracity were even slightly off target, you'd have had no reason to explain yourself. It simply stands to reason--at least ever since the early 70's--that homeowners hire professional contractors for such projects....if they can. If not then it's do-it-yourself, where things inevitably go wrong causing unnecessary headaches and anxiety.

Keep it simple, stupid. Not keep it stupid, simple.

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I will probably have about a 120 hours in this by the time it is done. True that I could make much more than a remodel cost if I spent that time in a casino.

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The confirmed Forum Coward never stops with the entertainment.

Interesting how MaxPad responding to a Rob post could print 7 sentences in a row in one post. Maybe the shit storm is close by.

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Not sure if you know what you did with that post. If my explanation's veracity were even slightly off target, you'd have had no reason to explain yourself. It simply stands to reason--at least ever since the early 70's--that homeowners hire professional contractors for such projects....if they can. If not then it's do-it-yourself, where things inevitably go wrong causing unnecessary headaches and anxiety.

Keep it simple, stupid. Not keep it stupid, simple.

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Most people hire contractors because they can't do it themself. Or if they can, they can't get a professional result. Since I don't have that problem I do my own stuff. I have written about my background before. So it is not like I am average when it comes to fabricating just about anything.

Every single home I have ever owned I have done at least a couple projects on. The only thing I hire out is roofing due to the physical demands and whenever I need countertops I will have the fabricating shop install. Also carpet, I can't stand messing around with carpet.

Mr. Druff, how come the only time you get involved with any trolling on your forum is if it has something negative said about Jewish people. You are a total piece of shit.
No, I do not mean the discussion on the re-modeling of bathrooms. This thread is about contributing to the forum, it is about time Mr. Druff started to at least take an interest.

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Mr. Druff, how come the only time you get involved with any trolling on your forum is if it has something negative said about Jewish people. You are a total piece of shit.
No, I do not mean the discussion on the re-modeling of bathrooms. This thread is about contributing to the forum, it is about time Mr. Druff started to at least take an interest.

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Give it a rest. You must have really bad Sundowners disease.

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Mr. Druff, how come the only time you get involved with any trolling on your forum is if it has something negative said about Jewish people. You are a total piece of shit.
No, I do not mean the discussion on the re-modeling of bathrooms. This thread is about contributing to the forum, it is about time Mr. Druff started to at least take an interest.

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Give it a rest. You must have really bad Sundowners disease.

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Last time I do not give a shit about the bathroom posts as a home improvement project as it is a contribution to the forum as per the title of the thread.

My contribution in the thread is letting the owner of the site know that he is useless, which I feel is also just as worthy as yours. My problems have to do with KJ's personal insults and accusations against me, not bathroom remodeling but I would only call you rude not ignorant.

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What accusation? That you weren't able to give your wife a "good dicking" for decades? That was her accusation, not mine. :cool:

With you wife being Italian and having that African heritage, those "colored girls" are used to larger darker equipment than your little shriveled shell of a penis. You can't blame her for being frustrated.

Bosox, I thought I saw her smile the other day, but it turns out it was just a couple of maggots making their way from what used to be the corner of her mouth.

blackhole has been banned.

He has been spamming the forum over and over with an annoying YouTube video.

I asked him to stop. He told me to fuck off, and then posted the video again. He's gone. I will continue to ban any low quality trolls who are only here to disrupt.

Nice work Monet, goading Blackhole into posting that. Guess the coast is clear for more of your bathroom and diet threads. Fucking asshole. Also hard to believe KewlJ can post what he did about Bosox`s late wife but Blackhole gets the axe for a youtube video

Odds on him reappearing as a sock?

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Nice work Monet, goading Blackhole into posting that. Guess the coast is clear for more of your bathroom and diet threads. Fucking asshole. Also hard to believe KewlJ can post what he did about Bosox`s late wife but Blackhole gets the axe for a youtube video

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To be 100 Percent fair, Dan specifically warned Blackhole to STOP posting that same YouTube video(I saw that warning even before Dan banned Blackhole) and Blackhole cussed him out and put that video up again. Blackhole was 100 percent in the wrong here. Interestingly enough, Blackhole got banned on his 5 year Anniversary Month...

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Nice work Monet, goading Blackhole into posting that. Guess the coast is clear for more of your bathroom and diet threads. Fucking asshole. Also hard to believe KewlJ can post what he did about Bosox`s late wife but Blackhole gets the axe for a youtube video

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To be 100 Percent fair, Dan specifically warned Blackhole to STOP posting that same YouTube video(I saw that warning even before Dan banned Blackhole) and Blackhole cussed him out and put that video up again. Blackhole was 100 percent in the wrong here.

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I didn`t ask for your opinion you bird brained cunt

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Nice work Monet, goading Blackhole into posting that. Guess the coast is clear for more of your bathroom and diet threads. Fucking asshole. Also hard to believe KewlJ can post what he did about Bosox`s late wife but Blackhole gets the axe for a youtube video

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To be 100 Percent fair, Dan specifically warned Blackhole to STOP posting that same YouTube video(I saw that warning even before Dan banned Blackhole) and Blackhole cussed him out and put that video up again. Blackhole was 100 percent in the wrong here.

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I didn`t ask for your opinion you bird brained cunt

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I don't care if you care about my opinion. You blamed Monet for Blackhole's banning when Blackhole's banning was 100 percent Blackhole's fault, not Monet's.

Seems to be a black hole where Blackhole once was. :)

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I didn`t ask for your opinion you bird brained cunt

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Hypocrit!

Keystone should be banned for saying really mean things to Tasha. :D

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I didn`t ask for your opinion you bird brained cunt

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Hypocrit!

Keystone should be banned for saying really mean things to Tasha. :D

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Ill say it to people that post here if I feel like it. Not their dead spouses

Get it Tinkerbell?

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Hypocrit!

Keystone should be banned for saying really mean things to Tasha. :D

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Ill say it to people that post here if I feel like it. Not their dead spouses

Get it Tinkerbell?

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Why did BoSox's wife hear me and get upset? of course not. So the person I said it to (boSox) is the only one effected, no different than your comments to tasha.

get it fucktard!

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Hypocrit!

Keystone should be banned for saying really mean things to Tasha. :D

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Ill say it to people that post here if I feel like it. Not their dead spouses

Get it Tinkerbell?

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Why did BoSox's wife hear me and get upset? of course not. So the person I said it to (boSox) is the only one effected, no different than your comments to tasha.

get it fucktard!

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Are you trying to get into Tasha`s pants? No,no, it must be Nathan`s

Run along little man (?) and enjoy your day doing some more digging thru Moses` finances or popping blood vessels over whatever money Mdawg says he wins

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Are you trying to get into Tasha`s pants? No,no, it must be Nathan`s

Run along little man (?) and enjoy your day doing some more digging thru Moses` finances or popping blood vessels over whatever money Mdawg says he wins

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Oh good one. Yeah, that will have me crying for weeks. :rolleyes:

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Very high probability of him reappearing, it will be VERY difficult for him to not give off his, I hate everyone/everything bitter old man attitude though. He will most likely get busted soon after resurfacing.

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Ding-Dong, the witch is dead ...

Here is a little side thing that is kind of funny. Moses over at the retard gambling forum, just last week announced a coalition of members out to discredit me. It is really the who's who of bitter old dudes that troll the gambling community. It was Moses/tater, BoSox, Blackhole, Mdawg, Singer and coach belly. Moses issues marching orders and talking points, from his little bunker over there. So Moses wakes up this morning to find his little army a man down. :D

In reality, the only one really following Moses marching orders has been BoSox. Mdawg is doing his own bizarre thing. I suspect Moses and his troll activity is even a little too idiotic for coach belly. And Singer and blackhole, while they have elevated Moses a blackjack expert for the purposes of trying to discredit me, I suspect they know little about moses or read his medication induced babblings on the retard forum. So it really just is BoSox, that Moses is leading. But anyway, the coalition of bitter old trolls is a man down. :cool:

You mean Moses, aka Tater Salad?

https://youtu.be/-enTBWgtVPY

"Yep....you caught the Tater!"

So just out of curiosity, since I seemed to have missed it and all posts about this banning incident have been removed here on the 'freedom of speech forum' can someone share exactly how Monet goated blackhole into getting banned? Seems a shame to have deleted accounts of that good work by Porkchop. I want to see him get his due.

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Nice work Monet, goading Blackhole into posting that. Guess the coast is clear for more of your bathroom and diet threads. Fucking asshole. Also hard to believe KewlJ can post what he did about Bosox`s late wife but Blackhole gets the axe for a youtube video

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What the Fuck are you talking about?
Getting banned from VCT lasts about 1 month, if that.
If I remember correctly, you were banned from this site and reinstated as well.
blackhole will be back in good standing very soon.
blackhole was being a pussy and he knows it and he agreed that he was being a puss when I called him out on it.
Very difficult to get banned from this site in the first place.
Pushing Dan Druff to the point to get you banned from VCT is an impressive feat to say the least.
Actually being Nuked, with No Return, is unimaginable.

Anyways, the remodel update is a bit of a bitch.
I have to demo out the master bathroom today so they can repipe the entire house starting tomorrow and finishing up the job on Thursday.
I have contractors coming out today and tomorrow to look into remodeling for me so we can get an operational shower asap.
Hopefully this will all come together in a timely manner but I wouldn't be surprised if I am without a shower, in this house, for 3 to 6 months.
Thanks for the inquiry.

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Nice work Monet, goading Blackhole into posting that. Guess the coast is clear for more of your bathroom and diet threads. Fucking asshole. Also hard to believe KewlJ can post what he did about Bosox`s late wife but Blackhole gets the axe for a youtube video

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What the Fuck are you talking about?
Getting banned from VCT lasts about 1 month, if that.
If I remember correctly, you were banned from this site and reinstated as well.
blackhole will be back in good standing very soon.
blackhole was being a pussy and he knows it and he agreed that he was being a puss when I called him out on it.
Very difficult to get banned from this site in the first place.
Pushing Dan Druff to the point to get you banned from VCT is an impressive feat to say the least.
Actually being Nuked, with No Return, is unimaginable.

Anyways, the remodel update is a bit of a bitch.
I have to demo out the master bathroom today so they can repipe the entire house starting tomorrow and finishing up the job on Thursday.
I have contractors coming out today and tomorrow to look into remodeling for me so we can get an operational shower asap.
Hopefully this will all come together in a timely manner but I wouldn't be surprised if I am without a shower, in this house, for 3 to 6 months.
Thanks for the inquiry.

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The only 2 guys that come to mind that I can think of, that have never been given the chance to return are the comical clowns " Lonestarhorse" and "Biloxi Bill". Even Moses/Tater was given a chance back, but thanks to Kew, he's stuck at GF :)

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Here is a little side thing that is kind of funny. Moses over at the retard gambling forum, just last week announced a coalition of members out to discredit me. It is really the who's who of bitter old dudes that troll the gambling community. It was Moses/tater, BoSox, Blackhole, Mdawg, Singer and coach belly. Moses issues marching orders and talking points, from his little bunker over there. So Moses wakes up this morning to find his little army a man down. :D

In reality, the only one really following Moses marching orders has been BoSox. Mdawg is doing his own bizarre thing. I suspect Moses and his troll activity is even a little too idiotic for coach belly. And Singer and blackhole, while they have elevated Moses a blackjack expert for the purposes of trying to discredit me, I suspect they know little about moses or read his medication induced babblings on the retard forum. So it really just is BoSox, that Moses is leading. But anyway, the coalition of bitter old trolls is a man down. :cool:

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I wouldn't be seen posting on any other forum than this one kew. It has to do with respect.

Do you ever get ANYTHING right? Or is there more than one set of crossed wires upstairs??

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So just out of curiosity, since I seemed to have missed it and all posts about this banning incident have been removed here on the 'freedom of speech forum' can someone share exactly how Monet goated blackhole into getting banned? Seems a shame to have deleted accounts of that good work by Porkchop. I want to see him get his due.

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blackhole kept posting the same annoying YouTube video of a terrible violin sound.

He posted it in response to every single post he didn't like. He did it 4 times in a row in a recent thread I started.

I deleted them and asked him to stop.

blackhole responded by telling me "FUCK OFF".

monet then told him he was being a pussy, and that the ballsy move would be to post that video again.

blackhole did just that.

I banned him.