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There has never been a weakass little twit who nervously keeps on claiming "I'm OK with someone who doesn't believe me" and then goes off on rants and whining about not being believed as if someone just cut his tiny nuts off, as the serial lying kew.

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The proof that UNKewlJ is a serial liar are all the lies and contradictions he has been caught in.

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APs for years now have been saying that UNKewlJ is more of a minor video poker player than anything else.

And now we've had a couple verify the red green chip action in the presence of an obvious sugar daddy.

On top of that we have an admitted liar.

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Court is adjourned. Kewl has been found guilty of another whopper.

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You have to figure about how after all these years of claiming that he has worked with this or that "AP," that this or that "AP" knows what happened to him here or there (including his lie about how various "APs" have contacted him about his fictitious backrooming incident after hearing about it), the only thing verified about him by multiple actual persons is that he has played a little red and green blackjack in the company of a sugar daddy.

THAT (to use an UNKewl introductory intensifier) says it all.

By now if there were any truth to any of what he claims something other than verification for his being a male prostitute would have come out.

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You say this like it is unreasonable. This is a gambling forum (or supposed to be). I am a mid level AP that learned all I could about a specific area of advantage play, card counting and have supported myself for 20 years doings so. Not get rich money, but a comfortable living. I don't expect anyone to be impressed with that, that is not my goal. But is it too much to expect people to stop lying about me with things like homeless and male prostitute and whatever other stupid childish things they come up with? Seriously, is that asking too much?

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You've been unable to present even the slightest evidence of any of it being true after countless opportunities. I didn't say it was unreasonable.It is unreasonable to expect it though.

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And I NEVER will!! :rolleyes:

But here is the funny thing to me. No one has provided the slightest evidence that I am not what I say either. No one! And yet, people here have decided to believe all the nonsense that is said (not proven), everything from the previously mentioned homelessness, and prostitution, to Asian Heritage, to sugar daddy nonsense, to red chip player to so on and so forth. Whatever the retarded juvenile mind of Mdawg could come up with.

If I really wasn't who and what I claim, wouldn't there have been some solid evidence by now, and not just this silly nonsense from a looney tune with and agenda? :rolleyes:

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Give an example of evidence that could be applied to you?

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You've been unable to present even the slightest evidence of any of it being true after countless opportunities. I didn't say it was unreasonable.It is unreasonable to expect it though.

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And I NEVER will!! :rolleyes:

But here is the funny thing to me. No one has provided the slightest evidence that I am not what I say either. No one! And yet, people here have decided to believe all the nonsense that is said (not proven), everything from the previously mentioned homelessness, and prostitution, to Asian Heritage, to sugar daddy nonsense, to red chip player to so on and so forth. Whatever the retarded juvenile mind of Mdawg could come up with.

If I really wasn't who and what I claim, wouldn't there have been some solid evidence by now, and not just this silly nonsense from a looney tune with and agenda? :rolleyes:

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Give an example of evidence that could be applied to you?

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I have no idea how someone would go about trying to prove something that is not true.

My focus has been more on the opposite, trying to prevent, or make it as hard as possible for these trolls, haters, doxers to find information that is true that I don't want they to have, for identifying reasons

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the claims about KJ's notorious lifestyle are so very ridiculous
I just found out he's in his 40s
kinna tough to find a sugar daddy when you're that age - aren't they looking more for early 20s or late teens_________?
a prostitute_____?____in his 40s________?_________seriously
where did all of this bullshit come from_______?
I think it's because he's gay - and people hate gays - so they manufacture all of this crap
except for you know who who manufactures all of his crapola because KJ has on many occcasions shown that his claims are laughable
he's explained why he falsified some of the details about his play
what's the big deal______?______he's not running for Congress is he______?

so very, very pathetic

I say live and let live

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The reason UNKewlJ loses at everything and is a loser in general is because he's a bad, unnatural person. And that has nothing to do with his being gay.

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KJ, why don’t you just stop with all the bitter angry crap.

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AS far as you H.Smoke, how may anyone take you seriously when you're incapable of expressing yourself in complete thoughts, let alone complete sentences. And I'm not the first to have said that.

And the mere existence of this thread, proves that UNKewlJ is incapable of any kind of resolve, and resolve is something that anyone needs in order to be successful at any venture, let alone casino play.

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The thing about KJ - if you actually read what he writes - is that he constantly echoes the words/phrases and themes of the immediately previous replies by others. As I noted, a while back, he's extremely suggestible. Not someone in control of even his own life. People don't always end up in places like Vegas by their own conscious volition. My guess would be some nut-job living from one day to the next, now on the internet. Certainly of negligible intelligence, etc.

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AS far as you H.Smoke, how may anyone take you seriously when you're incapable of expressing yourself in complete sentences.

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That is a very, very good point.
I am not able to write a complete sentence.
How is this for a complete sentence?

You're full of shit.

Was that sentence complete enough for you?

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That was a complete (basic) sentence. Not necessarily a complete thought. :D

9 Pages to say Goodbye???
WTF?
The End?
Fiddlesticks!

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the claims about KJ's notorious lifestyle are so very ridiculous
I just found out he's in his 40s
kinna tough to find a sugar daddy when you're that age - aren't they looking more for early 20s or late teens_________?
a prostitute_____?____in his 40s________?_________seriously
where did all of this bullshit come from_______?
I think it's because he's gay - and people hate gays - so they manufacture all of this crap
except for you know who who manufactures all of his crapola because KJ has on many occcasions shown that his claims are laughable
he's explained why he falsified some of the details about his play
what's the big deal______?______he's not running for Congress is he______?

so very, very pathetic

I say live and let live

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Don't fall prey to kewls bullshit. Given the political proclivities of this board then yes his being gay has something to do with it but is far from being a primary reason.

There are many prostitutes in LV. I knew an educated woman who moved there after marrying a gambler. She commented on how hard it was to find female friends who aren't prostitutes. Couple this with the lengths kewl has went through to convince everyone he is a professional gambler, it becomes very possible. There is some reason(s) he has done this for a decade+ , most likely some shame derived from however he mafe his money.

I support him doing his new AP and writing about it but the victim shit is tedious at best.

People also act off things he says. He sent me a PM years ago. I believed it but as the story progressed it became obviously nonsense. That wasn't about his counting. I assume he's spent a lot of time messing with that stuff but that doesn't mean he has supported himself.

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There are many prostitutes in LV. it becomes very possible.

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yes, it's possible

but is it fair to accuse somebody of something like that just because it's possible__________?

again, he's in his 40s - a very uncommon age for this activity

an awful lot of things are possible about a lot of people on this forum

I've always considered most of your posts to be pretty much on target and worthwhile

I'm kinna surprised that you would speculate about a person in this manner

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It is not speculation. UNKewlJ was observed in obvious sugar daddy compromising situations at least twice by reliable forum members, and

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How about this one UNKewlJ? What well known AP said this:

I thought that was common knowledge about Kewlj being a male prostitute.

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The person who said that is an impeccable source.


On top of all that, the supportive proof that UNKewlJ is up to something other than what he claims, are all the lies and contradictions he gets caught in when trying to present his casino play claims. And what person would have turned down a way to double hundreds of thousands of dollars? (unless he was lying about it all to begin with, which obviously he was lying):

Did UNKewlJ receive a settlement for his claimed backrooming incident?

At a minimum he could have called SeedValue's bluff, which is obvious especially now, that it was no bluff. SeedValue was willing to deliver the cash to Dan Druff the moment UNKewlJ said Go.

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KJ, I might believe you, however, you just have way too many interesting things/stories Etc that for some reason or another you can never provide any proof. There's always some, for lack of a better word, Bullshit reason why you can't/won't. It seems as if it would be in your best interest to not mention anything in the first place if you can't provide one iota of proof for whatever reason.

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9 Pages to say Goodbye???
WTF?
The End?
Fiddlesticks!

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Guess you have no idea about credibility.
How can anyone actually believe anything you claim to achieve at blackjack?
How can anyone take you seriously?

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it made more sense for a couple our age to be driving around as much as we do in one of these instead of a modified Charger (which my wife never really liked)--and which is also a bit loud when you get on it. There are slightly overall better foreign luxury sedans out there

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So I guess you're talking about the Blackwing version with the 6.2L? That MSRP is a bit steep, I think I'd opt to find one slightly used. Not too long ago I got rid of my Charger for a modified Vette that could probably outperform any of the cars in this conversation. That being said, it's a bit much to be driven around as a normal car, and occasionally I'm not in the mood for it. I think a slightly modified Hellcat Charger would be perfect for me. Because my wife doesn't mind some exhaust noise and the Caddys are completely off the table, she can't stand the way they look. And maintenance on the German/Italian cars is just stupid expensive.

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Yes the supercharged V8. I had to negotiate the "delivered" price because of the dealer markup. Sticker fully loaded is $114,238 w/o that markup. It's a bit different than the 2024.

The 2017 Hellcat is a Hennessey upgraded version with 1005 hp. I've been having electrical issues lately and the AC went out, which I got fixed right away.

I was a Corvette owner for many years, but these days we prefer softer rides than what they offer. The CT5-V blackwing seemed a good overall compromise. German etc.? Yes, bad bang for the buck for what you get from start to finish.

I have said this a couple dozen times. I have no idea if KewlJ is a short order cook, a professional blackjack player, or a male escort. I will, however, endeavor to track him down. Las Vegas is, when it comes down to it, a very small town. If he was indeed detained at South Point, his identity is already permanently compromised.

But all of that is neither here nor there. The important points are:

1) When one alleged professional gambler continually bullshits and makes up stories, it undermines the credibility of everyone who engages with him. That applies to MDawg, "Singer," or myself.
2) If you were dealing drugs in LV, or money laundering, or being Deuce Bigolo, all of which are technically illegal in LV, one would need a respectable cover. Claiming to be a professional card counter is one such cover. You would file taxes as such and just slide in "professional blackjack player" in place of whatever it is you actually do. Nobody from the feds is tailing you to verify next year's tax explanations. It's easy and convenient until it's not.
3) Frankly, if I were doing something like that, I'd probably go and try to "get caught" counting cards as a way to prop up my income filings. You know, provide some "evidence." I'd be a real obvious moron in a place that tends to take action versus counters, and then I'd write about it on forums. You know, like South Point or somewhere similar.

All of this stuff is obvious and Trickeration 101. Doesn't take a genius or a village, so to speak.

And the obvious

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You have fake deaths, marriages and deaths, evil doxxers, backroom arm-breakers, and after-the-fact-"misdirection" that would have been unnecessary if you simply don't make public the narrative.

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which also lends credence to that things are not what she would so desperately like us to think.

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1) When one alleged professional gambler continually bullshits and makes up stories,
All of this stuff is obvious and Trickeration 101

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how could you possibly know which stories are true and which stories are made up across this forum or any other gambling forum________?

I asked the question and I'll answer it - there's no way you could possibly know what's true and what isn't unless you witnessed it yourself or it was reported in a reputable journal - and so very few are, and most here have not witnessed the gambling of others on this forum

maybe some deliberately don't tell made up stories continually - they just tell them once in a while

that's Trickeration 102 - not so obvious - but maybe even more effective

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it made more sense for a couple our age to be driving around as much as we do in one of these instead of a modified Charger (which my wife never really liked)--and which is also a bit loud when you get on it. There are slightly overall better foreign luxury sedans out there

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So I guess you're talking about the Blackwing version with the 6.2L? That MSRP is a bit steep, I think I'd opt to find one slightly used. Not too long ago I got rid of my Charger for a modified Vette that could probably outperform any of the cars in this conversation. That being said, it's a bit much to be driven around as a normal car, and occasionally I'm not in the mood for it. I think a slightly modified Hellcat Charger would be perfect for me. Because my wife doesn't mind some exhaust noise and the Caddys are completely off the table, she can't stand the way they look. And maintenance on the German/Italian cars is just stupid expensive.

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Yes the supercharged V8. I had to negotiate the "delivered" price because of the dealer markup. Sticker fully loaded is $114,238 w/o that markup. It's a bit different than the 2024.

The 2017 Hellcat is a Hennessey upgraded version with 1005 hp. I've been having electrical issues lately and the AC went out, which I got fixed right away.

I was a Corvette owner for many years, but these days we prefer softer rides than what they offer. The CT5-V blackwing seemed a good overall compromise. German etc.? Yes, bad bang for the buck for what you get from start to finish.

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Team kewl. You can stop at a dealership to take a picture of something and claim it as yours but you are unable to snap a picture of a car in your garage.

Anyone who believes singer but not kewl is lol.

The problem with Singer's vehicle presentation goes something like this:

I have a copy of Amazing Fantasy #15. If somebody asks me to take a photo, I can do so (I assume the blurb at the bottom of Page One will separate it from reprint facsimiles). If somebody bets me I can't take a photo of it every day for a year, I can do that, too, with a dated newspaper in the photo.

I'm not sure Rob can do that for his Hellcat. And he sure didn't do it for his half-million-dollar motor home. But he could just take pics starting tomorrow and lay all debates to rest.

You people are and continue to be ridiculous. If this ridiculous made up story (by seedvalue) were true it would mean, that I began learning everything I could learn about blackjack card counting and advantage play, 6 years before I moved to Las Vegas, to become a prostitute. Really?!? Look, Seedvalue who came up with this story that Mdawg jumped on and has repeated a thousand times, was going to produce real live witnesses that would prove this claim. Where are they? He never produced anything except speculation.

Look, I don't know anything about the MALE prostitute trade in Las Vegas. Being Vegas there probably is some form of it. Although I am not familiar with such an area, most major cities have an area or street, where young males ply their trade. The common name for them is hustlers. Most aren't even gay. They sell their bodies for a very little cash, usually for drug money. But there isn't some higher end male prostitution, like there is female (escorts), as far as I know. That is just all made up.

Additionally, if and when someone wants to talk blackjack card counting, I will talk and tell you what I know. And I know a lot. I think I have proven that to anyone interested. And it is a hell of a lot more than some common bits of knowledge found by reading a book or two. The things I know are from experience, decades of it of playing, and learning what to do, and what not to do if you want to achieve some longevity. Example, this week in an appropriate discussion, I mentioned Bloodhound and BJsurvery blackjack evaluation software used by casinos (Bloodhound a little older now). I know all about and have access to the databases and which casinos are active contributors, which is the important part. I know and shared all kinds of techniques I use that have allowed me to achieve some longevity. Counters basic strategy, spreading both ways.

Come on people this is not the kind of stuff you learn as "cover for" some other activity. Nor is it stuff available by picking up professional blackjack or some other blackjack book. This is stuff learned by years, decades of experience.

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I don't know exactly who seedvalue is/was or what his issue is/was. There are some theories floating around. But he made up this male prostitute thing and then Mdawg ran with it repeating it a thousand times. That is a propaganda tactic dating back to Nazi Germany (probably even earlier). You repeat a lie often enough and it becomes accepted as truth. We have politicians today that engage in this more than ever.

This Mdawg has an agenda. He showed up telling a story of a high end gambler that wins every day. Wins millions. It was an interesting read, but it didn't make sense. He conflated the winning with the higher end comps and treatment that losing high end players get. That is NOT the way it works. Losing players get that treatment, long-term winning players get the boot. And have to work to find ways to be able to play.

Many people at WoV called him out on this nonsense. I was just one and not even one of the first as I wasn't at WoV when he started this fairytale. But I probably was one of the louder voices calling him out. And when I got a hold of his actually records for a year that were in the red when he claims to have won millions, he abruptly changed his story and claim to "about even". THAT was the day the Mdawg adventure ended for most at WoV and other forums and he set out to troll and smear me in any way he could. He still posts. But no one is buying and few even respond.

Yesterday's post had him winning $1000 (no big deal), after being down $80,000. That didn't happen! And digging out of a hole like that is one of the stupider things a real AP can do. You have to show what you are doing multiple times (exposure) to dig out of a hole like that. It is far to better to take and "book" a loss, and recoup later. But that doesn't make for a good story. And that is all Mdawgs writings are.

But anyway, THAT is why Mdawg, a supposed Lawyer, and millionaire many times over, a supposed million dollar (many times over) winning player spends his time trolling me all over the internet. He blames me for his fairytale story, for whatever reason he was telling it...crashing and burning. It wasn't me, it was him. I just pointed out some facts.


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AP's on this forum HAVE to know that the things I know and will talk about if you want to talk shop, are NOT things read in a common book that someone would read for cover for something else. They are things learned from experience mostly, and networking with other real players. Years and decades of it.

I got my hands on Grosjean's book, early after moving to Vegas. At the time that was considered the bible of advantage play and while AP's could get hold of it, most people didn't know how. I played some of the techniques in that book, particularly the big 6 wheel for a 6-8 month period. I believe I was responsible for Treasure Island here in Vegas, going to the electronic version rather than the girls spinning that could be exploited.

So just stop with the stupid shit. I am not talking to Mdawg or Singer whe I say that. These two are life long gambling forum trolls and make up all sorts of lies. I am talking to you Accountinquestion, Jdog, and other AP's, even redietz, that are repeating this stupid shit. Don't buy into and enable this trolling. Have some common sense and use your head.

And yes, I am sorry, if me being an active advantage player in this town, wanting to maintain my anonymity and not meet and interact with people from internet forums, even other AP's, as some of you do, has rubbed some the wrong way. It isn't personal. It is business. I am a solo player and that is what I do. My circle of friends, including a select few advantage players is very tight. Get over it!

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I was a Corvette owner for many years, but these days we prefer softer rides than what they offer. The CT5-V blackwing seemed a good overall compromise.

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Yeah I get it. The Vette is only a fun car for us, yes the ride is bad and you may know the Z06 is manual only and lightweight. So less sound dampening, lots of road noise... etc. Those Caddys are nice cars. If you can believe it the deal breaker against trading up my Scat to a Hellcat years ago was gas mileage. At the time we were taking the Charger on road trips and a Hellcat wouldn't quite make our closest casinos on a tank of gas lol.

kewl, it's fascinating that you have the energy to keep repeating the same things over and over. You do realize the definition of insanity is repeating the same behaviors but expecting different results??

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And yes, I am sorry, if me being an active advantage player in this town, wanting to maintain my anonymity

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Of course any AP should maintain some anonymity but you've stated many times that you live in the Panorama Towers. MP asked you to take a pic at that pool with a note, and you of course, refused. It was the simplest thing that would not have compromised you in any way, but would have at least given you a shred of credibility.

Obviously it wouldn't have done anything to prove your other claims but at least there would be just one thing about you that could be genuine.

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Of course any AP should maintain some anonymity but you've stated many times that you live in the Panorama Towers. MP asked you to take a pic at that pool with a note, and you of course, refused.

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excuse me? I did NOT state many times that I live at this location. I did mention some vague things like I live just off strip, which was my brothers choice (he wanted to live close to the strip...I had already done that). And I did mention that the place had car service. I really didn't know how identifying that second thing was. It was Moses and Mdawg that were able to find where I live, moses trying to get past security and Mdawg posting the doxing information.

I just got tied of denying it, but the last thing I am going to do is post proof of where I live. Are you freaking nuts? :confused:

And here is the freaking weird or trollish part. Both Moses and Mdawg pretty much proved where I live, Mdawg, doxing me with the intent of harming my career, moses, who knows, I guess thinking he was going to harm me physically, but both pretty much proved it. And then suddenly both started posting shit about me being homeless after they had all but proven where I live. THAT is the level of trollish shit occurring here.

Here is an idea Jdog. How about YOU prove where you live, prove what you have done and made as an AP, show up your bank account and all the things you fucktards on an internet forum demand of me.

It is a fucking gambling forum (or supposed to be). I share some, not all but some....what I can and even some that I shouldn't of my experiences as an AP living and playing Vegas. I am NOT on trial.

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kewl, it's fascinating that you have the energy to keep repeating the same things over and over. You do realize the definition of insanity is repeating the same behaviors but expecting different results??

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And yes, I am sorry, if me being an active advantage player in this town, wanting to maintain my anonymity

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Of course any AP should maintain some anonymity but you've stated many times that you live in the Panorama Towers. MP asked you to take a pic at that pool with a note, and you of course, refused. It was the simplest thing that would not have compromised you in any way, but would have at least given you a shred of credibility.

Obviously it wouldn't have done anything to prove your other claims but at least there would be just one thing about you that could be genuine.

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He could also have taken a picture of the surfboard.

Half Smoke needs to remember the gratuitous use of sand nigger and threats of shooting people.

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You people call me every name in the fucking book. I troll back a bit with some name calling and I am the bad guy?

Fuck you accountinquestion.

Ultimately it seems kewl just loves attention in any and all forms. If he was serious about protecting his gig then he wouldn't be on the internet for a decade+ talking about it but he can never meet anyone. None of it makes sense. Just like Singer.

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Half Smoke needs to remember the gratuitous use of sand nigger

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You people call me every name in the fucking book. I troll back a bit with some name calling and I am the bad guy?

Fuck you accountinquestion.

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Lol you're such a loser but I'll keep pretending I believe you, buddy.

I didn't say you were a bad guy but you're definitely not a good guy.

Get help.

Half smoke just needs to real8ze the full picture of who he is dealing with.

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Ultimately it seems kewl just loves attention in any and all forms. If he was serious about protecting his gig then he wouldn't be on the internet for a decade+ talking about it but he can never meet anyone. None of it makes sense. Just like Singer.

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I have every right to be on a gambling forum and share what I want to share, even if it isn't a great idea for me to do so.

Who do you think you are? Seriously fuck you!

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Ultimately it seems kewl just loves attention in any and all forms. If he was serious about protecting his gig then he wouldn't be on the internet for a decade+ talking about it but he can never meet anyone. None of it makes sense. Just like Singer.

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I have every right to be on a gambling forum and share what I want to share, even if it isn't a great idea for me to do so.

Who do you think you are? Seriously fuck you!

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I didn't say you couldn't you dumb fucking mongrel. Just like I have a right to remind people of your full picture.

Typical kewl. Always the victim.


Get help.

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I just got tied of denying it, but the last thing I am going to do is post proof of where I live.

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Interesting choice of words... but you've already verified the location is correct in more than one way?? But then you contradict yourself and act like proving it would make any difference now. It would make absolutely no difference... unless... you can't because you don't actually live there. So logically we're left with it none of it being believable, including the Moses story.

I'm not trolling... I'm just trying to make you understand why you do not come off as credible.

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Got news for you. Half smoke is or was a blackjack card counter. I don't know if he still plays. But he has been on Norms blackjack forum, under a different handle since I was there and that has been a decade. I suspect he was on other forums with me, before that, and probably BJ21 ect.

So he knows I know what I am talking about. And I don't know for sure, but he probably knows a couple guys from that forum that I do know. Or maybe the guy that runs a top team that recruited me. Who knows what he knows, but he surely knows more than you and people trolling me on this forum. So his opinion isn't that of someone gosh, golly gee, person that you are making him out to be.

By the way, some of those people that I just talked about, actually came to this forum once I showed up here. But were quickly driven away. Whenever we get into this shit like this, I usually hear from someone, one of the AP's that I know from other forums, or even the top AP that I associate with here in Las Vegas, that ask "Do you want me to come over there and say something?". I always respond with a don't bother. It is a troll forum and they won't believe you and will only troll you.

You people, including you AinQ did that. This was always a limited forum with membership, but if you look back 6 years ago there was a decent number of real and known AP's here. But most have been driven away by all the ridiculous trolling, most that has nothing to do with advantage play or gambling.

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Half smoke just needs to real8ze the full picture of who he is dealing with.

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Got news for you. Half smoke is or was a blackjack card counter. I don't know if he still plays. But he has been on Norms blackjack forum, under a different handle since I was there and that has been a decade. I suspect he was on other forums with me, before that, and probably BJ21 ect.

So he knows I know what I am talking about. And I don't know for sure, but he probably knows a couple guys from that forum that I do know. Or maybe the guy that runs a top team that recruited me. Who knows what he knows, but he surely knows more than you and people trolling me on this forum. So his opinion isn't that of someone gosh, golly gee, person that you are making him out to be.

By the way, some of those people that I just talked about, actually came to this forum once I showed up here. But were quickly driven away. Whenever we get into this shit like this, I usually hear from someone, one of the AP's that I know from other forums, or even the top AP that I associate with here in Las Vegas, that ask "Do you want me to come over there and say something?". I always respond with a don't bother. It is a troll forum and they won't believe you and will only troll you.

You people, including you AinQ did that. This was always a limited forum with membership, but if you look back 6 years ago there was a decent number of real and known AP's here. But most have been driven away by all the ridiculous trolling, most that has nothing to do with advantage play or gambling.

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And when pressed you have never been able to have 1 person vouch for you. Ever. You always refer to these people.

I know youve been on blackjack forums forever. I believe you have spent many many many hours at a blackjack table but nothing more.

Get help.

I'll go back to acting like I believe you for funsies but can't stomach this victim hood.

So what are the account names these people used on this forum?

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Kim Lee, Jdaewoo, midwest player, 21xxxxx (asked me not to even post his name on this forum that he calls "the urinal". Among others.

Accountinquestion, I noticed you haven't addressed the jist of my posts today. That no one would learn what I have learned and know what I know, all the in depth things about a specific feiid like card counting, things that only come from years and decades of experience, just to play a handful of people on a very small mostly dead internet forum.

About the closest comparison would be Singer and Mdawg who yes have trolled the gambling forums for decades, (mdawg using previous handles), but here is the big difference. Neither has shown even a little bit of understanding of what they are talking about.

Can you seriously answer that or are you just going to keep trolling?

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Ultimately it seems kewl just loves attention in any and all forms. If he was serious about protecting his gig then he wouldn't be on the internet for a decade+ talking about it but he can never meet anyone. None of it makes sense. Just like Singer.

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Big difference: I'm famous....and I've led a hugely productive life!

I've been on real radio stations, TV channels, I've had two books published, I've been very happily married for 46 years with 2 children and 4 grandkids, I was Gaming Today's most popular and read weekly columnist for 8 years--and no one has come close since, I've always been and remained to this day in great physical & mental shape due to exercise/smart eating & drinking/never smoking/never a drug user, I've met with and trained/advised/chatted with hundreds of other players & critics thru the years, and I had a very successful working career before I became a well-known vp professional.

Kew OTOH is a stone cold loser. He was thrown out of his mommy's house back east, he chose to become a queer because he had no idea how to act around women, he's riddled with the medical problems you'd expect of someone with a ratty past & no future, he mooched off of a fat old man for as long as he could until he was forced to move out of a dead man's house, and because he's such a failure in life he uses the internet as his alternate reality safe space, where he not only concocted a phony life online--he's spent the better part of a decade getting caught lying about it.

Other than that....yeah, we're similar.

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Big difference: I'm famous....and I've led a hugely productive life!

I've been on real radio stations, TV channels, I've had two books published, I've been very happily married for 46 years with 2 children and 4 grandkids, I was Gaming Today's most popular and read weekly columnist for 8 years--and no one has come close since, Ive always been and remained to this day in great physical & mental shape due to exercise/smart eating & drinking/never smoking/never a drug user, I've met with and trained/advised/chatted with hundreds of other players & critics thru the years, and I had a very successful working career before I became a well-known vp professional.

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Love this guy. (not really) and his wild imagination. He's famous! That is choking type funny shit!

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Accountinquestion, I noticed you haven't addressed the jist of my posts today. That no one would learn what I have learned and know what I know, all the in depth things about a specific feiid like card counting, things that only come from years and decades of experience, just to play a handful of people on a very small mostly dead internet forum.

About the closest comparison would be Singer and Mdawg who yes have trolled the gambling forums for decades, (mdawg using previous handles), but here is the big difference. Neither has shown even a little bit of understanding of what they are talking about.

Can you seriously answer that or are you just going to keep trolling?

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I never said I don't think you haven't played a lot of blackjack. You've been on blackjack forums forever so of course you have absorbed tons. However You've been caught with blatant sometimes impossible lies.
What is true is that you have a compulsion to lie about l sorts of things. After that it makes no sense to assume anything you say about yourself is true. Not that hard and I won't keep repeating myself.


So you're saying Midwest player and jdaewoo have met you in person?

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That no one would learn what I have learned and know what I know, all the in depth things about a specific feiid like card counting, things that only come from years and decades of experience, just to play a handful of people

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Huh?? It's apparent that neither AinQ nor myself have challenged your counting knowledge. It's the totality of implausible claims and stories... and you know this. Seems your classic go-to move is misdirection.

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Huh?? It's apparent that neither AinQ nor myself have challenged your counting knowledge. It's the totality of implausible claims and stories... and you know this. Seems your classic go-to move is misdirection.

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So then we are back to this: You guys think I learned all I could about blackjack card counting advantage play, things that can only be learned through experience....20 years worth.... so I could move to Las Vegas play some $5 blackjack and troll 8 people on a near dead forum?

Do you know how silly this is? Stupid silly, not funny silly.

And that goes back to what I have been saying and mickey said something similar. You guy know the truth. You just want to play your games.

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That he is...without question.

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Huh?? It's apparent that neither AinQ nor myself have challenged your counting knowledge. It's the totality of implausible claims and stories... and you know this. Seems your classic go-to move is misdirection.

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So then we are back to this: You guys think I learned all I could about blackjack card counting advantage play, things that can only be learned through experience....20 years worth.... so I could move to Las Vegas play some $5 blackjack and troll 8 people on a near dead forum?

Do you know how silly this is? Stupid silly, not funny silly.

And that goes back to what I have been saying and mickey said something similar. You guy know the truth. You just want to play your games.

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This is why people suspect you may have/are a prostitute. As an explanation of all this. One asks why? You just ignore what people say and insist on living in an alternative universe. So whatever.

Get help.

Had I been on every blackjack forum for 20 years then I'm pretty damn sure I could come off as an authority on blackjack. Dozens of books have been written on this. You know the minutiae of posters from 10 years ago when it comes to blackjack. Of course you can fake it. Your problem is the bigger lies. You however don't address those and fall back. You may be a +EV counter. I would not be surprised either way. No one cares as that is not an accomplishment. You supporting yourself for 15 years in the same town is where people start to question.

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he also may be the world's #1 Troll Enabler
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That he is...without question.

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I deleted that message because I had 2nd thoughts about it

you quoted it before I deleted it

but since you quoted it - I was referring to PFA where they have dozens and dozens of nasty trolls - many more than here

Dan is a great poker player no doubt

in fairness to him, I guess he didn't want the headache of monitoring the forums and banning or suspending people - and he felt they sometimes delivered valuable info

so, he thought they were worth having - he's probably right about that - but man - it can get so very nasty - a sad reflection of our society

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My apologies for quick quoting. :D

I did know you are talking about PFA. I have only visited there probably 4 times, briefly, but it was enough to see what it is.....THIS troll forum on steroids.

Look Dan banned Singer on this forum for blatant racism. Rob was gone about 6 month and I guess traffic here dropped some, so Dan allowed him back. THAT is pandering to the trolls. And when he allowed him back it was with the understanding that Rob was limited to posting in 1 single thread. THAT was not enforced and was pandering to the trolls that dominate this forum.

I get that on a forum like this, the trolls and trolling is what bring traffic. But what the fuck kind of traffic is that? Is that the traffic you want on a forum named Veags, Casino Talk, supposed to be about discussions of Vegas and casinos and gambling? :confused:

I remember Dan Druff making the statement that he allows some trolling among the AP's on this site. As if to say "friendly" trolling. Well there is nothing friendly, nor should be acceptable about the trolling and attacks I endure every day. Some of it that would result in real consequences in the real world. An attorney would be disbarred or sanctioned over the lies and accusations Mdawg makes daily. People have told me I should pursue a complaint to the California Bar and even directed me on how to do so. I just choose to not do that kind of thing.

But that doesn't change the fact that the shit that Druff allows is just not acceptable. Accusing someone of criminal activity, does NOT fall under free speech. It is slander and people are found liable for it.

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I have explained how I have done that. The style of play I adopted and things I do that are all geared towards longevity, which was my top priority since the day I arrived in Vegas. And most of those things I have explained (some I no doubt shouldn't have) are not in any of these books you speak of.

You are going in circles. You are basically saying, Yes, I believe you have spent 20 years learning everything you can to the point that you know things only a very experienced player would learn and you did this so you can play $5 blackjack and troll 8 people on a forum.

Do you know how fucking stupid that is?

Look, I am not going to keep going in circles. What you are saying makes no sense.

I am not writing a book (may someday, but probably not now). I am not selling anything. I don't benefit if 3 of the 10 people on this forum believe me or 7 believe me. It doesn't change what I make or who I am.

But I am a blackjack AP that has supported myself for 15 years in this town and I have a right to share some of those experiences if I desire without the 3rd grade bullying and complete lies that ya'll engage in.

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I have explained how I have done that. The style of play I adopted and things I do that are all geared towards longevity, which was my top priority since the day I arrived in Vegas. And most of those things I have explained (some I no doubt shouldn't have) are not in any of these books you speak of.

You are going in circles. You are basically saying, Yes, I believe you have spent 20 years learning everything you can to the point that you know things only a very experienced player would learn and you did this so you can play $5 blackjack and troll 8 people on a forum.

Do you know how fucking stupid that is?

Look, I am not going to keep going in circles. What you are saying makes no sense.

I am not writing a book (may someday, but probably not now). I am not selling anything. I don't benefit if 3 of the 10 people on this forum believe me or 7 believe me. It doesn't change what I make or who I am.

But I am a blackjack AP that has supported myself for 15 years in this town and I have a right to share some of those experiences if I desire without the 3rd grade bullying and complete lies that ya'll engage in.

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You don't want to listen to what people say so you misinterpret or forget repeatedly.

Now it is others going in circles. Pathetic. That's why I want you out in the world doing stuff to come back and talk about because it is you running in circles. Classic projection.

Just to remind everyone. Kewl told me a story that is simply not really possible. The origin of it was via an unsolicited PM. Why he did this I can't say. Then he misleads and ignores all the other rubbish he's claimed and acts like people are saying he never plays blackjack. He needs help.

Asked about jdaewoo or Midwestplayer knowing him in rl like he implied ... and oddly he went silent .... as soon as pressed on another chance to give himself a shred of real life credibility.

Had he stuck solely with his basic story (which is what he always references) Then he would not be called out by most on here. The thing between him and singer/mdawg is just as much his creation.

I'll prove I'm a real person by meeting someone tomorrow. someone I've never met. From this forum.

Imagine that. ;)

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I have not met Midwest player in real life. I know him from forums dating back 18 years. But I believe, am not 100% sure but believe he knows people that I do know and have met.

But I am not going to say who I know or have met. I am not on trial and some of these people have asked me not to even mention them on THIS forum. THAT is how bad this forum is.

One of the players I know, have met and has been to my home posts at WoV and he even posted there that he knew me. I didn't ask him, nor will name him or link to it.

It always goes back to some of you inexplicably think I am on trial. Think that a guy sharing things on a forum need prove this or that? Have I asked you for any of this?

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Big difference: I'm famous....and I've led a hugely productive life!

I've been on real radio stations, TV channels, I've had two books published, I've been very happily married for 46 years with 2 children and 4 grandkids, I was Gaming Today's most popular and read weekly columnist for 8 years--and no one has come close since, Ive always been and remained to this day in great physical & mental shape due to exercise/smart eating & drinking/never smoking/never a drug user, I've met with and trained/advised/chatted with hundreds of other players & critics thru the years, and I had a very successful working career before I became a well-known vp professional.

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Love this guy. (not really) and his wild imagination. He's famous! That is choking type funny shit!

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Did you think anyone here who's labeled you as a proven liar--which is EVERYONE :)--to expect anything other than your usual, nervous denial?!

Face it kew, your gig was exposed long ago. A blackjack player super-infatuated with how the game works and all of it's fascinating legacy? Absolutely. A winner who cuts the cheese in the face of those who actually have the discipline and temperament to succeed--and who know how to tell the truth? You GOTS to be kidding!!

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That's why I want you out in the world doing stuff to come back and talk

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Don't give me this shit! I have done and continued to do this. This year I shared in details 2+ months of my brother and me traveling around the country exploiting a blackjack video machine play that he stumbled on. What did I get? Trolling, trolling, trolling.

I have also shared the sportsbook bonus that I have been doing since last September. And that is just about all I am doing at present, as I just don't feel like going out much this summer that has been brutally hot (even by Vegas standards). The sports bonus hustling is almost guaranteed to account for the majority of my AP income this year. Regular blackjack is currently 3rd, but I haven't played a great deal due to a lot of travel on the other play in the spring and not wanting to go out much right now.

But I hope to do more traditional blackjack play this fall. If I do and results are good, meaning even close to expectation, this will be one of my better years, possibly even my best, as I have 5 different streams of AP income, although, not sure the mailer bonus game is going to net much if anything.

I would love to share some specifics because I am proud of what I am doing and have accomplished. But why bother. I already know the trolling responses.

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Asked about jdaewoo or Midwestplayer knowing him in rl like he implied ... and oddly he went silent .... as soon as pressed on another chance to give himself a shred of real life credibility.

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I have not met Midwest player in real life. I know him from forums dating back 18 years. But I believe, am not 100% sure but believe he knows people that I do know and have met.

But I am not going to say who I know or have met. I am not on trial and some of these people have asked me not to even mention them on THIS forum. THAT is how bad this forum is.

One of the players I know, have met and has been to my home posts at WoV and he even posted there that he knew me. I didn't ask him, nor will name him or link to it.

It always goes back to some of you inexplicably think I am on trial. Think that a guy sharing things on a forum need prove this or that? Have I asked you for any of this?

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Exactly..you can't name one person you've met yet you implied you had. Same ol same ol

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Don't give me this shit! I have done and continued to do this. This year I shared in details 2+ months of my brother and me traveling around the country exploiting a blackjack video machine play that he stumbled on. What did I get? Trolling, trolling, trolling.

I have also shared the sportsbook bonus that I have been doing since last September. And that is just about all I am doing at present, as I just don't feel like going out much this summer that has been brutally hot (even by Vegas standards). The sports bonus hustling is almost guaranteed to account for the majority of my AP income this year. Regular blackjack is currently 3rd, but I haven't played a great deal due to a lot of travel on the other play in the spring and not wanting to go out much right now.

But I hope to do more traditional blackjack play this fall. If I do and results are good, meaning even close to expectation, this will be one of my better years, possibly even my best, as I have 5 different streams of AP income, although, not sure the mailer bonus game is going to net much if anything.

I would love to share some specifics because I am proud of what I am doing and have accomplished. But why bother. I already know the trolling responses.

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You have shared details but the details have never helped your case. I also gave you a chance to admit to the bs you told me and I'd never troll you. I got a fuck you (off?)

Get help.

The fact that nobody knows anybody that knows KJ, despite his claim to have worked on AP teams etc., like the fact that his supposed backrooming left no trace online despite supposedly being covered by multiple local news networks, is actually extremely damning.

I'm guessing I'm four degrees tops separated from everyone on this forum that is in any sense an AP, and I'm a complete anti-social hermit. (I'm only two degrees separated from redietz and I know two people on here directly.)

As I've said before KJ has become a victim of his own success (as a fraud that is). You can claim for a few years to have been a LV counter who doesn't know anyone, you can't keep the story going for 20 years without it becoming crushingly improbable.

Maybe that's why he faked his death way back when. He knew he couldn't keep the story up. But then he realized not being able to post on the forums was a fate worse than death.

Lol singer must be grinnin big

You are the best though kewl. You always deliver.

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Ultimately it seems kewl just loves attention in any and all forms. If he was serious about protecting his gig then he wouldn't be on the internet for a decade+ talking about it but he can never meet anyone. None of it makes sense. Just like Singer.

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Big difference: I'm famous....and I've led a hugely productive life!

I've been on real radio stations, TV channels, I've had two books published, I've been very happily married for 46 years with 2 children and 4 grandkids, I was Gaming Today's most popular and read weekly columnist for 8 years--and no one has come close since, I've always been and remained to this day in great physical & mental shape due to exercise/smart eating & drinking/never smoking/never a drug user, I've met with and trained/advised/chatted with hundreds of other players & critics thru the years, and I had a very successful working career before I became a well-known vp professional.

Kew OTOH is a stone cold loser. He was thrown out of his mommy's house back east, he chose to become a queer because he had no idea how to act around women, he's riddled with the medical problems you'd expect of someone with a ratty past & no future, he mooched off of a fat old man for as long as he could until he was forced to move out of a dead man's house, and because he's such a failure in life he uses the internet as his alternate reality safe space, where he not only concocted a phony life online--he's spent the better part of a decade getting caught lying about it.

Other than that....yeah, we're similar.

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Notice that UNKewLyingJ responded only to the first part of R.Singer’s post. Not the second. He could try with yet another 10X Multiplier response he’s TILTed with many in this thread already, desperately trying to dig himself out from the lies and contradictions that keep burying him.

Just like A.Wolf said…just another Bullshit reason (presented at 10X Multiplier length) as to why he won’t accept any challenge (not even one he proposes himself, then recants). I mean hell, the only viable reasoning for turning down some of the challenges sent his way are…that he has no way to deliver because he’s an utter fraud. Especially when you consider how obviously desperate he is to prove himself.

As AccountInQuestion has said more than once,

Get Help.

Thinking about it more I think four degrees was too conservative.

I'm three degrees from Tasha (and as with redietz this is just me relying on the connections I happen to be aware of).

ETA - One degree from Tasha if we're counting not in person contact.

I'll be heading to LV in a week or two. Tell you what, kewlJ. Since you said I was bullshitting about getting Trump at even money, why don't you meet me in person, I show you the site where I did it, I'll show you the actual dated wager, and then you can pay me the amount of our wager plus $6.51 for a Starbucks coffee at the Golden Nugget.

I hate when people who have no veracity doubt my veracity.

Anyway, there's the offer. I won't even take your pic on a phone.

I'll report on dates and times next week. It'll be in the next 10-17 days -- have not pinned things down yet.

By the way, if you want to see something wild, pull up Tuscany rates for the 5th versus the 4th of August. The 4th is $45 plus resort fee. The 5th is $8,500 (I presume they'll give you a pass on the resort fee.). That's the biggest discrepancy I have ever seen day-to-day.

I should do a separate post for this, because I think it is an all-time LV disparity record for the same room day-to-day. The 5th probably includes a film of Boz making out with Tasha, Todd's book on "How to Win Friends, Influence People, and Pay Half for Mini-Bar Items," and an hour-long meat-and-greet date with Rob's penis.

"I won't even take your pic with a phone" as if the default would be to take a picture.... things that make ya go mmmmmmmmmmm

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We have NO wager Redeitz. If you think otherwise you are mistaken. I happen to have two different wagers with several different sports book involving the election, but none are with you. You may have proposed a wager. I think I remember these different amounts proposed, 10k, 20k, my net worth (which I doubt you can cover). But I accepted nothing. I just don't play that internet game of pissing wagers that never come about. Kind of reminds me of Moses and his stupid challenges to play one on one in blackjack. Silly.

Red, there was a time I considered meeting you, for a meal or cup or coffee (I don't drink coffee). At that time you seemed more normal and somewhat harmless. But the thing that always prevented me from doing so, was comments by you early on where you pretended not to understand why an AP needed to protect their anonymity. After that I always had a tiny bit of suspicion with you.

Now, I don't know if you are conveniently forgeting or maybe you are having the type of senior moments Rob frequently has but 6 days ago you posted this:

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So have a nice Vegas trip Red, but I won't be meeting with you, nor paying off any imaginary bet that you think we have.

This forum is a whole fucking forum of retards. Must be the discarded rejects from every other forum.

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This is precisely what I define as misdirection. He pretends he didn't see it or didn't understand, then redirects to some nonsensical point. It's always his go-to move.

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You guys think I learned all I could about blackjack card counting advantage play, things that can only be learned through experience....20 years worth.... so I could move to Las Vegas play some $5 blackjack and troll 8 people on a near dead forum?

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Of course not (and your response is yet another misdirection btw) It's not just here, it's been every gambling or blackjack forum you could find. Of course you're not here to troll, you want to be looked up to as a highly successful, prolific AP in every way. But it hasn't worked here so you have resorted to trolling.

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and then you can pay me the amount of our wager plus $6.51 for a Starbucks coffee at the Golden Nugget.

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We have NO wager Redeitz. If you think otherwise you are mistaken. I happen to have two different wagers with several different sports book involving the election, but none are with you. You may have proposed a wager. I think I remember these different amounts proposed, 10k, 20k, my net worth (which I doubt you can cover). But I accepted nothing. I just don't play that internet game of pissing wagers that never come about. Kind of reminds me of Moses and his stupid challenges to play one on one in blackjack. Silly.

Red, there was a time I considered meeting you, for a meal or cup or coffee (I don't drink coffee). At that time you seemed more normal and somewhat harmless. But the thing that always prevented me from doing so, was comments by you early on where you pretended not to understand why an AP needed to protect their anonymity. After that I always had a tiny bit of suspicion with you.

Now, I don't know if you are conveniently forgeting or maybe you are having the type of senior moments Rob frequently has but 6 days ago you posted this:

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So have a nice Vegas trip Red, but I won't be meeting with you, nor paying off any imaginary bet that you think we have.

This forum is a whole fucking forum of retards. Must be the discarded rejects from every other forum.

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And yet you sit around trying to impress them... how's that work

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The 5th probably includes a film of Boz making out with Tasha, Todd's book on "How to Win Friends, Influence People, and Pay Half for Mini-Bar Items," and an hour-long meat-and-greet date with Rob's penis.

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Ah yes... the "VCT VIP Package".

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We have NO wager Redeitz. If you think otherwise you are mistaken. I happen to have two different wagers with several different sports book involving the election, but none are with you. You may have proposed a wager. I think I remember these different amounts proposed, 10k, 20k, my net worth (which I doubt you can cover). But I accepted nothing. I just don't play that internet game of pissing wagers that never come about. Kind of reminds me of Moses and his stupid challenges to play one on one in blackjack. Silly.

Red, there was a time I considered meeting you, for a meal or cup or coffee (I don't drink coffee). At that time you seemed more normal and somewhat harmless. But the thing that always prevented me from doing so, was comments by you early on where you pretended not to understand why an AP needed to protect their anonymity. After that I always had a tiny bit of suspicion with you.

Now, I don't know if you are conveniently forgeting or maybe you are having the type of senior moments Rob frequently has but 6 days ago you posted this:

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So have a nice Vegas trip Red, but I won't be meeting with you, nor paying off any imaginary bet that you think we have.

This forum is a whole fucking forum of retards. Must be the discarded rejects from every other forum.

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There was most definitely never a time when you considered meeting redietz.

As soon as kew starts fearing someone after they expose his lies, he cowers away to his little computer safe space....with the fake baby bro.

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I am confused as to where this narrative that I am trying to "impress" anyone comes from? :confused:

From the time I began sharing anything that I do, it has always been card counting, the simplest and most elementary form of advantage play. And even as I branched out a little into mailer bonus hustling and sports bonus hustling. VERY, VERY elementary and simple elements of advantage play. Never though that would impress anyone anywhere. Never wanted to. But whatever.

Mentally ill sociopathic liar. The End.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Mentally ill sociopathic liar. The End.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdRH5wzCQQw

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

But that doesn't change the fact that the shit that Druff allows is just not acceptable. Accusing someone of criminal activity, does NOT fall under free speech. It is slander and people are found liable for it.

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so many negative and obviously false posts about you -

I would speculate that you, if you wanted to, could have some very successful lawsuits against some of the trolls

and even against the World's #1 Troll Enabler himself

but it would be a massive effort - requiring tons of time and energy - and I doubt you would want that

Todd is a strange guy in some ways - obviously very intelligent - but he chooses not to explain himself

iirc he was quoted about his forum somewhere and he said this : "anybody can say anything about me that they want"

You prolly recall - I once put up a thread that read: "Todd Witteles allows gay bashing on this site"

he didn't respond - I guess you have to be a writer for a Poker Magazine to be esteemed enough in his view to respond to any criticism or questions -

I think all of the horrible trolling on his forums has tarnished his image and his legacy

.

Stop crying in your milk. You just shared in your rambling run on sentences that part of why you relate to UNKewlJ is because you're a Jew and Jews face prejudice,

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Originally Posted by Half Smoke

I don't think you're Jewish. I am. I think I know things about this that you don't

you take all kinds of shit on this site because you're gay

do you really believe that there aren't all kinds of similar negative feelings out there about Jews that are not usually verbalized because a great many want to appear politically correct_____?

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the same way you perceive that UNKewlJ is being targeted for being gay.

As Dan the Man DanDruff has said though,

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

But wait - there's more.

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The more being that some people here might toss an anti-gay remark in with their UNKewlJ bashing. But that's not why people here target him. In fact, UNKewlJ himself has vacillated back and forth as whether or not he even is gay. So who knows if he is or isn't - he is a completely lost soul doesn't even know who or what he is.

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Originally Posted by jdog

You do everything you accuse others of when it suits your purpose: racial slurs, threats, repeating embellishments or outright lies about others over and over. Obviously you are so deluded you have no idea even who you are. I'm coming to understand you must actually believe everything you say, even the lies you tell yourself about yourself. I agree with AinQ, I don't want to chase you off the forum either, just get help. Seriously you need a therapist to help you connect with reality.

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And the REASON people target him here is because he is an inveterate liar,

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

It is about you lying constantly !!!!

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and a ceaseless hypocrite,

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Basically, this hypocrite whatever he accuses others of, you may be assured that he's done himself first, and worse.

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Quote:

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Originally Posted by mcap

Trying so hard to be a victim after the shit KJ has said about shack and qfit. People have a problem with you primarily because you’re as big of a self righteous hypocrite as there is in this world.

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and then cries in his milk just as you did, about being targeted for being gay, when that really has nothing to do with why he receives such scorn.

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Originally Posted by Tater/Moses

Poor poor KJ. Always the victim.

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UNKewlJ also likes to whine softly about how he is targeted because he makes up lies about others. Again what he says about others has nothing to do with his receiving scorn - he has earned all that on his own.

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Originally Posted by Punkcity

Did you happen to notice
YOUR NON GAMBLING posts at VCT and ELSEWHERE?

When are you going to STOP being a hypocrite?

When are YOU going to create interesting gambling CONTENT?

When are you going to STOP running to mummy/daddy at admin with your FARCICAL rants.

The equation is simple

Become a better person.
Become a poster of worth
by NOT trolling,
by NOT lying
by NOT posting your self loathing homophobia vitriol
by NOT reneging on your word
by NOT living and posting from your FICTIONAL world

You posted boygirl hypocrisy to administration is just another HUGE example of your hypocrisy. Your a joke.

We all know it
Admin knows it
And
Yes , YOU know it also , which begs the question

ARE you MENTALLY unstable?

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Another thing you share with UNKewlJ along with this obvious victim complex which now explains a lot of why you act the way you do here and at WOV is the inability to make a decision and keep to it. Both of you, both here and at WOV, have declared that you would no longer address certain person(s), would no longer post at the forums, and yet keep coming back helplessly, unable to keep to your resolves.

Get over it. The day UNKewlJ stops being a lying hypocrite is the day the forums will stop making fun of him. Has nothing to do with being gay.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ cannot play victim as if everyone is mean and picking on him. Nobody forced him to make up phony stories here. If you do that and get caught, expect the forum to make fun of you

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And getting caught up in lies and phony stories never ends with this guy.

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Originally Posted by monet

It never ends with this guy.
He posts one thing today and a week later tells everyone he was lying.
And does it how many times now?
GTFOH... Spiderman!

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Originally Posted by Half Smoke

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

But that doesn't change the fact that the shit that Druff allows is just not acceptable. Accusing someone of criminal activity, does NOT fall under free speech. It is slander and people are found liable for it.

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so many negative and obviously false posts about you -

I would speculate that you, if you wanted to, could have some very successful lawsuits against some of the trolls

and even against the World's #1 Troll Enabler himself

but it would be a massive effort - requiring tons of time and energy - and I doubt you would want that

Todd is a strange guy in some ways - obviously very intelligent - but he chooses not to explain himself

iirc he was quoted about his forum somewhere and he said this : "anybody can say anything about me that they want"

You prolly recall - I once put up a thread that read: "Todd Witteles allows gay bashing on this site"

he didn't respond - I guess you have to be a writer for a Poker Magazine to be esteemed enough in his view to respond to any criticism or questions -

I think all of the horrible trolling on his forums has tarnished his image and his legacy

.

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Lawsuits? No one knows who he is. This identity is not used for financial gain so no one is harming him in that regard. Kewl has said he will quit and has that ability yet never does. People have speculated, yes, and they have a totally different conclusion. Can you slander a made up identity? This identity is not used for financial reward. No damages there. He keeps
Coming back for more. Etc. Loool Goodluck on a lawsuit.

I wonder if they will let KJ testify from behind a screen to conceal his identity.

Kew only wants....NEEDS the attention; nothing more. And it's always the perpetrators who whine about suing others.

My favorite part is knowing he's causing himself his own misery because of how stupid he is with all his lying.

Any wonder why his whole life is himself, the imaginary "baby bro", reading books on blackjack, with an overwhelming fascination & addiction to the game while pretending he always wins by doing it all on his own?

Pure gold!

The identity he's trying to protect is that of a tunnel dwelling male prostitute.

It seems you are triggered by something. You made one of those 10X replies. It seems you have a treasure trove of quotes saved on your computer to be ready for instant replies to any and every reply. Strange behavior. That's all.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Stop crying in your milk. You just shared in your rambling run on sentences that part of why you relate to UNKewlJ is because you're a Jew and Jews face prejudice,



the same way you perceive that UNKewlJ is being targeted for being gay.

As Dan the Man DanDruff has said though,

The more being that some people here might toss an anti-gay remark in with their UNKewlJ bashing. But that's not why people here target him. In fact, UNKewlJ himself has vacillated back and forth as whether or not he even is gay. So who knows if he is or isn't - he is a completely lost soul doesn't even know who or what he is.

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Originally Posted by jdog

You do everything you accuse others of when it suits your purpose: racial slurs, threats, repeating embellishments or outright lies about others over and over. Obviously you are so deluded you have no idea even who you are. I'm coming to understand you must actually believe everything you say, even the lies you tell yourself about yourself. I agree with AinQ, I don't want to chase you off the forum either, just get help. Seriously you need a therapist to help you connect with reality.

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And the REASON people target him here is because he is an inveterate liar,

Quote:

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

It is about you lying constantly !!!!

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and a ceaseless hypocrite,

Quote:

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Basically, this hypocrite whatever he accuses others of, you may be assured that he's done himself first, and worse.

---

Quote:

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Originally Posted by mcap

Trying so hard to be a victim after the shit KJ has said about shack and qfit. People have a problem with you primarily because you’re as big of a self righteous hypocrite as there is in this world.

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and then cries in his milk just as you did, about being targeted for being gay, when that really has nothing to do with why he receives such scorn.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Tater/Moses

Poor poor KJ. Always the victim.

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UNKewlJ also likes to whine softly about how he is targeted because he makes up lies about others. Again what he says about others has nothing to do with his receiving scorn - he has earned all that on his own.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Punkcity

Did you happen to notice
YOUR NON GAMBLING posts at VCT and ELSEWHERE?

When are you going to STOP being a hypocrite?

When are YOU going to create interesting gambling CONTENT?

When are you going to STOP running to mummy/daddy at admin with your FARCICAL rants.

The equation is simple

Become a better person.
Become a poster of worth
by NOT trolling,
by NOT lying
by NOT posting your self loathing homophobia vitriol
by NOT reneging on your word
by NOT living and posting from your FICTIONAL world

You posted boygirl hypocrisy to administration is just another HUGE example of your hypocrisy. Your a joke.

We all know it
Admin knows it
And
Yes , YOU know it also , which begs the question

ARE you MENTALLY unstable?

---

Another thing you share with UNKewlJ along with this obvious victim complex which now explains a lot of why you act the way you do here and at WOV is the inability to make a decision and keep to it. Both of you, both here and at WOV, have declared that you would no longer address certain person(s), would no longer post at the forums, and yet keep coming back helplessly, unable to keep to your resolves.

Get over it. The day UNKewlJ stops being a lying hypocrite is the day the forums will stop making fun of him. Has nothing to do with being gay.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ cannot play victim as if everyone is mean and picking on him. Nobody forced him to make up phony stories here. If you do that and get caught, expect the forum to make fun of you

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And getting caught up in lies and phony stories never ends with this guy.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by monet

It never ends with this guy.
He posts one thing today and a week later tells everyone he was lying.
And does it how many times now?
GTFOH... Spiderman!

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Originally Posted by DaveDandry

It seems you are triggered by something. You made one of those 10X replies. It seems you have a treasure trove of quotes saved on your computer to be ready for instant replies to any and every reply. Strange behavior. That's all.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Stop crying in your milk. You just shared in your rambling run on sentences that part of why you relate to UNKewlJ is because you're a Jew and Jews face prejudice,



the same way you perceive that UNKewlJ is being targeted for being gay.

As Dan the Man DanDruff has said though,

The more being that some people here might toss an anti-gay remark in with their UNKewlJ bashing. But that's not why people here target him. In fact, UNKewlJ himself has vacillated back and forth as whether or not he even is gay. So who knows if he is or isn't - he is a completely lost soul doesn't even know who or what he is.



And the REASON people target him here is because he is an inveterate liar,

Quote:

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

It is about you lying constantly !!!!

---

and a ceaseless hypocrite,

Quote:

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Basically, this hypocrite whatever he accuses others of, you may be assured that he's done himself first, and worse.

---

Quote:

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Originally Posted by mcap

Trying so hard to be a victim after the shit KJ has said about shack and qfit. People have a problem with you primarily because you’re as big of a self righteous hypocrite as there is in this world.

---

and then cries in his milk just as you did, about being targeted for being gay, when that really has nothing to do with why he receives such scorn.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Tater/Moses

Poor poor KJ. Always the victim.

---

UNKewlJ also likes to whine softly about how he is targeted because he makes up lies about others. Again what he says about others has nothing to do with his receiving scorn - he has earned all that on his own.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Punkcity

Did you happen to notice
YOUR NON GAMBLING posts at VCT and ELSEWHERE?

When are you going to STOP being a hypocrite?

When are YOU going to create interesting gambling CONTENT?

When are you going to STOP running to mummy/daddy at admin with your FARCICAL rants.

The equation is simple

Become a better person.
Become a poster of worth
by NOT trolling,
by NOT lying
by NOT posting your self loathing homophobia vitriol
by NOT reneging on your word
by NOT living and posting from your FICTIONAL world

You posted boygirl hypocrisy to administration is just another HUGE example of your hypocrisy. Your a joke.

We all know it
Admin knows it
And
Yes , YOU know it also , which begs the question

ARE you MENTALLY unstable?

---

Another thing you share with UNKewlJ along with this obvious victim complex which now explains a lot of why you act the way you do here and at WOV is the inability to make a decision and keep to it. Both of you, both here and at WOV, have declared that you would no longer address certain person(s), would no longer post at the forums, and yet keep coming back helplessly, unable to keep to your resolves.

Get over it. The day UNKewlJ stops being a lying hypocrite is the day the forums will stop making fun of him. Has nothing to do with being gay.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ cannot play victim as if everyone is mean and picking on him. Nobody forced him to make up phony stories here. If you do that and get caught, expect the forum to make fun of you

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And getting caught up in lies and phony stories never ends with this guy.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by monet

It never ends with this guy.
He posts one thing today and a week later tells everyone he was lying.
And does it how many times now?
GTFOH... Spiderman!

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And every single one of those quotes is worthy of HoF status.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by DaveDandry

It seems you are triggered by something. You made one of those 10X replies. It seems you have a treasure trove of quotes saved on your computer to be ready for instant replies to any and every reply. Strange behaviour. That's all.

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nice observation

yes, he is somehow able to get away from his activities as a high-powered attorney; and absolutely crushing those poor, helpless casinos which he does almost every day; while enjoying the many luxurious comps they graciously bestow upon him; oh, and I almost forgot; the spectacularly successful day trading of stocks

and he is somehow able to find mountains of time to spend bashing KJ

which is what I believe is the highlight of his days

.

.

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Originally Posted by redietz

I'll be heading to LV in a week or two. Tell you what, kewlJ. Since you said I was bullshitting about getting Trump at even money, why don't you meet me in person, I show you the site where I did it, I'll show you the actual dated wager, and then you can pay me the amount of our wager plus $6.51 for a Starbucks coffee at the Golden Nugget.

I hate when people who have no veracity doubt my veracity.

Anyway, there's the offer. I won't even take your pic on a phone.

I'll report on dates and times next week. It'll be in the next 10-17 days -- have not pinned things down yet.

By the way, if you want to see something wild, pull up Tuscany rates for the 5th versus the 4th of August. The 4th is $45 plus resort fee. The 5th is $8,500 (I presume they'll give you a pass on the resort fee.). That's the biggest discrepancy I have ever seen day-to-day.

I should do a separate post for this, because I think it is an all-time LV disparity record for the same room day-to-day. The 5th probably includes a film of Boz making out with Tasha, Todd's book on "How to Win Friends, Influence People, and Pay Half for Mini-Bar Items," and an hour-long meat-and-greet date with Rob's penis.

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You can kill two birds with one stone by delivering your credit score to Witteles while in Las Vegas. It'll do wonders for your veracity.

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

Lawsuits? No one knows who he is. This identity is not used for financial gain so no one is harming him in that regard. Kewl has said he will quit and has that ability yet never does.

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Exactly. How can you slander an anonymous poster on an internet forum?? There is no legal issue to pursue. Be careful Half Smoke, you are aligning yourself with someone who has taken every action possible to paint himself as a victim. kewl is a victim of his own actions alone.

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Originally Posted by jdog

Exactly. How can you slander an anonymous poster on an internet forum?? There is no legal issue to pursue.

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I don't believe this is true. What is needed is to prove financial damage and I can do that from Mdawgs doxing. yes, I wouldn't be able to remain anonymous when filing a claim like this as I have tried and wanted to do on the forum. But most people would be willing to give up some anonymity for a piece of the middle-eastern oil money. :rolleyes:

Luckily for Mdawg, I am not most people. That is just not how I fly, so he doesn't have to worry about that. And me saying that probably wouldn't make me a very good poker player. Just being truthful. I am not going to sue. But some day, someone might. And I believe they would have a case if they can prove financial damages.

Have you not followed the Trump verdicts in this Caroll woman case? You just can't lie and make up things about people. It is called slander and you can be held liable.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by DaveDandry

It seems you are triggered by something. You made one of those 10X replies. It seems you have a treasure trove of quotes saved on your computer to be ready for instant replies to any and every reply. Strange behavior. That's all.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by MDawg

Stop crying in your milk. You just shared in your rambling run on sentences that part of why you relate to UNKewlJ is because you're a Jew and Jews face prejudice,



the same way you perceive that UNKewlJ is being targeted for being gay.

As Dan the Man DanDruff has said though,

The more being that some people here might toss an anti-gay remark in with their UNKewlJ bashing. But that's not why people here target him. In fact, UNKewlJ himself has vacillated back and forth as whether or not he even is gay. So who knows if he is or isn't - he is a completely lost soul doesn't even know who or what he is.



And the REASON people target him here is because he is an inveterate liar,

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by accountinquestion

It is about you lying constantly !!!!

---

and a ceaseless hypocrite,

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by MDawg

Basically, this hypocrite whatever he accuses others of, you may be assured that he's done himself first, and worse.

---

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by mcap

Trying so hard to be a victim after the shit KJ has said about shack and qfit. People have a problem with you primarily because you’re as big of a self righteous hypocrite as there is in this world.

---

and then cries in his milk just as you did, about being targeted for being gay, when that really has nothing to do with why he receives such scorn.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Tater/Moses

Poor poor KJ. Always the victim.

---

UNKewlJ also likes to whine softly about how he is targeted because he makes up lies about others. Again what he says about others has nothing to do with his receiving scorn - he has earned all that on his own.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Punkcity

Did you happen to notice
YOUR NON GAMBLING posts at VCT and ELSEWHERE?

When are you going to STOP being a hypocrite?

When are YOU going to create interesting gambling CONTENT?

When are you going to STOP running to mummy/daddy at admin with your FARCICAL rants.

The equation is simple

Become a better person.
Become a poster of worth
by NOT trolling,
by NOT lying
by NOT posting your self loathing homophobia vitriol
by NOT reneging on your word
by NOT living and posting from your FICTIONAL world

You posted boygirl hypocrisy to administration is just another HUGE example of your hypocrisy. Your a joke.

We all know it
Admin knows it
And
Yes , YOU know it also , which begs the question

ARE you MENTALLY unstable?

---

Another thing you share with UNKewlJ along with this obvious victim complex which now explains a lot of why you act the way you do here and at WOV is the inability to make a decision and keep to it. Both of you, both here and at WOV, have declared that you would no longer address certain person(s), would no longer post at the forums, and yet keep coming back helplessly, unable to keep to your resolves.

Get over it. The day UNKewlJ stops being a lying hypocrite is the day the forums will stop making fun of him. Has nothing to do with being gay.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ cannot play victim as if everyone is mean and picking on him. Nobody forced him to make up phony stories here. If you do that and get caught, expect the forum to make fun of you

---

And getting caught up in lies and phony stories never ends with this guy.

Quote:

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Originally Posted by monet

It never ends with this guy.
He posts one thing today and a week later tells everyone he was lying.
And does it how many times now?
GTFOH... Spiderman!

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This guy(?) is an obsessed bullshitting clown...easily the biggest lying sack of fuck on this board, and that`s saying something :rolleyes: