Bob Dietz' Coming Appeararance On PokerFraudAlert Radio

redietz, in all sincerity, are you going to be on PFA, and if so, when? We're wasting too much time Jack fucking around discussing this and I think you would agree.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

OMG!!!!! STOP THE DI TALK!!!!!! It's been discussed ad nauseam. If it's possible, it's not worth it, and even if it were only one in a billion people, maybe can do it.

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that's funny - because in the below post you seemed to wanna hear more about it - anyway I'm done -

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by Kim Lee

I faded Stanford Wong's dice action, and would do it again.

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Please, do tell. ... We bough a 100% real craps table.

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Originally Posted by Half Smoke

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Originally Posted by Kim Lee

I faded Stanford Wong's dice action, and would do it again.

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per the link Wong has backed off his claim that craps can be beaten with dice influencing -

but I don't see how Kim Lee's fading of Wong's dice action would be advantageous - the HE is still there - maybe he just did it for fun - that would be my guess

"And finally, in April 2011, in a tacit admission that he had been wrong in believing casino craps could be legitimately beaten, Wong removed craps from the list of “Beatable Casino Games” on his popular BJ21.com website, and also removed the “Craps” discussion page from his site, as well. In addition, a few months later, in October 2011, in an interview on Bob Dancer’s popular KLAV radio program, “Gambling With an Edge,” Wong admitted that for players “who want to get serious about making money in casinos, craps is not the game to play.” That pretty much says it all."


https://www.lasvegasadvisor.com/gamb...lKZDMXMJRCnon3

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I think kim lee meant he was playing the role of the house so was betting against wong

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Originally Posted by Half Smoke

that's funny - because in the below post you seemed to wanna hear more about it - anyway I'm done -

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by Kim Lee

I faded Stanford Wong's dice action, and would do it again.

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Please, do tell. ... We bough a 100% real craps table.

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Once Alan's name was brought up, I got flashbacks and changed my mind.

REDietz should appear on the program. If he has indeed done this all his adult life it seems like he would be a great candidate for the show.

We have lying male prostitutes like UNKewlJ who pretend that they do this, and others who claim they do this part time or have done it for part of their lives, but REDietz is the real deal!

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

There's been talk about Kim Lee being KJ or some nonsense. I haven't paid much attention to that aspect.

This post and some others certainly don't sound like KJ to me.

So why the strong feeling it's KJ? I don't know, but Kim Lee could be sharing his account with KJ, or it could be his brother, or someone else, I suppose.


Has/Does Kim Lee have an account at WOV?

If so, I would wonder if someone has access to information related to IP addresses, and there happened to be some correlation with past IP addresses between KL and KJ.
I don't know, I'm just throwing that out there as food for thought.

I'll let you guys figure it out, as I really don't care beyond this post.

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OMG! Enough with the Kim Lee / KJ connection! That was something invented by the trolls. Kim Lee is on the East coast. I am in Vegas. Already confirmed by Dan Druff. And no Kim Lee, considered an expert by many for decades, is not / was not / did not turn his account over to a card counter type AP like me. :D

You want a connection between Kim Lee and myself besides that we are friends? Here it is. We both came to the same conclusion regarding Bob Dietz and his 40 year sports betting, which turned into a sports scam-dicapping racket. And it is the same conclusion YOU Axelwolf and Mickey and every other AP and real gambler has come to. It is NOT fair to Kim Lee, a knowledgeable gambling expert to keep linking him to me with made up troll accusations.

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Now I want to go back to post 629, where when asked to explain Kelly for a 56% winning players, Redietz came up with Kelly Doesn't apply because the 56% is in the past and is no reflection on what the bettor will do in the future.

So why then has redietz been showing perspective clients and investors these cherry-picked past results then all these years? Does anyone think he said "well here is a year I hit 56%, but that means nothing about the future"? :D:D

No what he tried to sell them with those cherry-picked results is that he would keep right on hitting at 56% or better.

And I also don't believe that 56% number. Not as a cumulative accurate total. Not as an Average. Maybe a few select (cherry-picked) years.

If Bob Dietz had a 40 year run where his cumulative win rate was 56%, he would not have needed clients or investors. He would have bet, bet, bet and be many-times over millionaire. Instead, what we have is a guy on an obscure internet forum, telling everyone he was one of the sports bettor/handicapping greats.

KimLee is an idiot if he associates with a sociopathic liar like UNKewlJ. You will note that he has distanced himself from the UNKewl one lately, doesn't even acknowledge her.

Would you?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells

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UNKewlJ has been banned, branded a liar, or both, by forum Admin from/at every forum at which she has participated.

https://i.imgur.com/IQptqnfh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/D7sF2dih.jpg

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Kim Lee is on the East coast. I am in Vegas. Already confirmed by Dan Druff. And no

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while I do believe Dan is correct and I dont think you guys are the same person.

Dan Druff can't say with 100% certainty since there are ways to get around this stuff. Do you think I'm risking many thousands of dollars at online casinos with multiple accounts without getting around this stuff?

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Originally Posted by MDawg

KimLee is an idiot if he associates with a sociopathic liar like UNKewlJ. You will note that he has distanced himself from the UNKewl one lately, doesn't even acknowledge her. Would you?

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Hound, if you and KJ were in a rowboat and it started to sink I'd throw him a life ring and ask him to beat you unconscious with the oar.

Your ceaseless trolling is tiresome, as is your schtick.

Oh and one other thing. Why is it that almost no one in the sports betting world knows of or has even heard of Bob Dietz. I mean 40 years of his greatness?

I have met only a few (very few) blackjack player card counter APs, and a few more know who I am or think they know who I am. But almost every known blackjack card counter type AP knows me from forums. Has read what I have written about my blackjack play and journey, and almost no one doubts it. The forum trolls doubt it. Few real players do.

None of these known players say, what he claiming is not the way it works, Not the way the math works. At most a few wonder how I have been able to achieve such longevity, which I have tried to explain and share as much as I could, because THAT is really what card counting is about in the 2020' s finding ways to be able to play. The math has been the math for 75 years. Longer really, but known about for 75 years.

So all the real players know me, or know of me. (may not like me but they know who I am). But if you go to any sports betting platform and ask real and known sports bettors about Bob Dietz (or redietz) they will say "who?" :D

Maybe we can change that with this interview. get off the pot Dietz! Set a date and let's get this interview done with knowledgeable people being afforded the opportunity to ask the pertinent questions. If you are who you say, one of the great sports bettors of the last half century, and are now retired, you deserve that be known. Let's get it done!

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Originally Posted by MDawg

KimLee is an idiot if he associates with a sociopathic liar like UNKewlJ. You will note that he has distanced himself from the UNKewl one lately, doesn't even acknowledge her.

Would you?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells

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UNKewlJ has been banned, branded a liar, or both, by forum Admin from/at every forum at which she has participated.

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I think the odds are pretty good that you have sent Kim Lee a Private message relaying negative things about KJ. That's the kind of person you are.

I think the odds are pretty good that you've been drinking.

Obviously you missed this post. I did email him a few days ago, just to ask him the question we all wanted answered, not otherwise.

I have never sent him a PM, no need - I am sure that unless he is blind he knows by now that UNKewlJ is universally despised as a compulsive liar, just by perusing this and other forums.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

On these forums, usually there's fire where there's smoke. KewlJ you have lied so many times about so many things (and not just on here) that you need to just own up to it and admit that you've had a lot of problems telling the truth on AP forums.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

I communicated directly with the real "Kim Lee." He denies being UNKewlJ, yes - he refers to the bum just like that, as "UNKewlJ" :D but does not deny that UNKewlJ might have been feeding him things to say, which we already knew anyway.

There are reasons for his malicious mischief.

His CV should be posted here for all to see that someone like that would not be guilty of the exact same grammatical mistakes among other similarities as the bum UNKewlJ. Over all, anyone having been duped by a sociopathic liar like UNKewlJ into ever getting mixed up in any of this would be rubbing his b-hole in regret.

So it looks like Dan the DanDruff man was right.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

However, it is still possible that kewlJ could be sending these posts to a friend to make, from across the country, so I can't say for certain.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Kim Lee is on the East coast. I am in Vegas. Already confirmed by Dan Druff. And no

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while I do believe Dan is correct and I dont think you guys are the same person.

Dan Druff can't say with 100% certainty since there are ways to get around this stuff. Do you think I'm risking many thousands of dollars at online casinos with multiple accounts without getting around this stuff?

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Okay, well here is another fact then that you should have considered. Kim Lee is very, very knowledgeable about everything AP, and math (similar to you and mickey) I am not. I know enough to get by, in a limited capacity, doing what I do. :rolleyes: And Kim Lee's knowledge extends to way before I was even an active player. It's ridiculous Axelwolf.

It would be like if people were suggesting Axelwolf is a sock puppet of Tasha or Tash/Nathan is feeding Axelwolf what to say and post.

Bob Dietz invited Kim Lee here to give his opinion of Dietz history and claims, knowing that he was knowledgeable and had all the publications. All I did was pass that invitation along. And when Kim Lee showed up and concluded the same as me, you and every other AP/real player, Dietz started screaming sock puppet. :mad: And we wonder why so few real players will have anything to do with this forum. :confused:

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Originally Posted by MDawg

I think the odds are pretty good that you've been drinking.

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I haven't been. Put your money where your mouth is, I will.

How can I prove it? Don't worry about that, I can. Let's make it a minimum of 10k. Then I'll bet half my winnings on if you sent Kim Lee a PM regarding KJ.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Kim Lee is on the East coast. I am in Vegas. Already confirmed by Dan Druff. And no

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while I do believe Dan is correct and I dont think you guys are the same person.

Dan Druff can't say with 100% certainty since there are ways to get around this stuff. Do you think I'm risking many thousands of dollars at online casinos with multiple accounts without getting around this stuff?

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Okay, well here is another fact then that you should have considered. Kim Lee is very, very knowledgeable about everything AP, and math (similar to you and mickey) I am not. I know enough to get by, in a limited capacity, doing what I do. :rolleyes: And Kim Lee's knowledge extends to way before I was even an active player. It's ridiculous Axelwolf.

It would be like if people were suggesting Axelwolf is a sock puppet of Tasha or Tash/Nathan is feeding Axelwolf what to say and post.

Bob Dietz invited Kim Lee here to give his opinion of Dietz history and claims, knowing that he was knowledgeable and had all the publications. All I did was pass that invitation along. And when Kim Lee showed up and concluded the same as me, you and every other AP/real player, Dietz started screaming sock puppet. :mad: And we wonder why so few real players will have anything to do with this forum. :confused:

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Dude, I already said I don't think you guys are the same people.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

KimLee, Nothing you have to say may overcome your association with a known sociopathic liar.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

KewlJ, you have repeatedly lied on this and other forums. You have admitted to many of these lies.

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

kewlJ has also been caught in a lot of lies over time, both on this forum and elsewhere. Therefore, it is unclear if he really makes much (or anything) playing blackjack these days.

kewlJ is basically the Boy Who Cried Wolf of these AP forums. He has lied so many times that it's impossible to believe any stories he tells.

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Your judgment stinks.

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

. Then I'll bet half my winnings on if you sent Kim Lee a PM regarding KJ.

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Of course he did! Just like when Hunterhill mentioned that he know me, Hunterhill confirmed that Mdog immediately contacted him asking for information about me. I'll bet he did the same thing with Kim Lee.

MDog, you don't even belong in this discussion. You know nothing about sports betting and have nothing to add. Just go sit in the troll corner and wait for your opportunity to troll. Go Boy! Go! Sit! Stay!

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

But man I hit a big multiplier.

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Originally Posted by MDawg

KimLee is an idiot if he associates with a sociopathic liar like UNKewlJ. You will note that he has distanced himself from the UNKewl one lately, doesn't even acknowledge her. Would you?

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Hound, if you and KJ were in a rowboat and it started to sink I'd throw him a life ring and ask him to beat you unconscious with the oar.

Your ceaseless trolling is tiresome, as is your schtick.

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If you, KJ and MD were in a boat with 3 little boys while it started to sink. You would shout, "Quick, save the boys!"
KJ would shout," fuck the Boys" And MD would shout, "Do you think we have time?"