That was a tough song to listen to all the way through for me that is. I felt like this song deserves this... I am sure you get the innuendo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCVR_ajL_Eo
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That was a tough song to listen to all the way through for me that is. I felt like this song deserves this... I am sure you get the innuendo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCVR_ajL_Eo
I doubt it. It is all subjective. I am listening to Opera right now so to each their own.
Some of my post was a joke and a double meaning because of...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0POmdK18WU
I just got back from my morning lap around the casino. Flipped the TV on and it's the Kavanaugh hearings. The dems came out squealing like pigs and have been squealing like pigs ever since. They are obviously stonewalling the proceedings. It's going to be a fun week watching the dems get it shoved down their throats. As Barack Obama said "Elections have consequences."
PS, I'm sure the lefties over at WoV will be squealing like pigs about it all week too.
WoV has a new thread called Full Pay Deuces Wild +EV. There is some misinformation in it. Skip Hughes used to have a video poker newsletter and in it he coined the term "Not So Ugly Deuces" for the 99.73% game. He also coined the term Ugly Ducks for the 98.91% game shown in the screenshot below. Skip died in 2010.
In his articles and columns Lenny Frome referred to the payscale in the screenshot below as "Airport Deuces" and also "Illinois Deuces." It is a 96.77% game. He died in 1998.
In his world travels I wonder if Michael Shackleford has ever been to Shackleford Banks, a group of barrier islands off the coast of North Carolina. Mike surely descends from the Shacklefords of 1600's King & Queen County, Virginia. A branch of the family bought these Islands in the early 1700's. Right now there is a big concern for the Shackleford Horses, a herd of about 100 wild horses that live on one of the Islands. Big storm coming and not much high ground.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shackleford_Banks
The burning man thing facinates me. It's basically the last thing I would ever want to do but people flock to it.
I've been looking at Burning Man videos on youtube for quite awhile now; I also subscribe to their newsletter: "The Jackrabbit Speaks."
But I've never gone there and probably never will, which is fine.
There is no greater expression of what it means to be a creative, caring human than Burning Man.
I am especially intrigued by the vehicles, as I am a "car guy:"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se7g4LX2Mvo
I have done Burning Man twice. The first time we went the true "nature" or earthy way of camping outside. It was brutal. The communal showers have water rations. I forget how many gallons you got, but it was barely enough to get your body wet. No where near enough water to allow for feeling clean. :( I forget if we camped out 2 or 3 nights, but I know we left a day earlier than planned, went to Reno and took like a 3 hour shower. ;)
When I was talked into....I mean decided to give Burning Man a second try, we went the RV route. This was a much better experience. Made the whole festival much more enjoyable. I don't ask for much out of life, but I need to take a proper shower....at least once a day, and I like a little air condition to sleep, when the temperature is in the 80's and 90's at night. :rolleyes:
I am glad I experienced Burning Man. It's a bucket list type thing.
I too require showers... When camping, I can stretch it out a couple of days but with all that dust and heat, I'm not sure I'd make it.
I seem to recall a story about some camp that provides a shower similar to a car wash where a wall of anonymous hands scrub you... maybe I'm just too old, but that's not my jam.
I'm also fond of electricity and a data connection. I like rural, but with WiFi.
For the price, I think I'd insist on a water view.
Damn, y'all need air conditioning that badly? I gone most of the summer without AC....you know shit's real when you step outside to cool off.
The heat wouldn't bother me much out there, I don't think. But all that dirt n grime and crap...nah, that's not for me. I'd much rather a hotel than camping in a tent or even an RV.
The thing I mostly don't understand about burning man is it's just......I just don't get it. I understand why some people might like it, with all the "communal living" and whatnot. They're probably 99% vegans and others like them. Ugh.
BM has developed a world-wide popularity: it is not just for Californians.
The anti-establishment, anti-capitalist spirit is attractive to many, be they counter-culture types or high-achievers yearning to decompress with something awesomely out of the norm, if only for a few days.
The creativity, the art constructions, the neon and fire at night are wholly unique to BM and compelling to participants, as is the vibe of peace, love and tolerance.
Note that there is very serious of money and effort involved, both by the organizers and the participants who bring / construct "art" objects / constructs.
BM is wholly unique in the world, there is nothing anywhere that even comes close to matching it; it is levels of magnitude above the hippy-like "Rainbow Gathering" for example.
It seems also to be spiritually fulfilling for many, giving them hope both for their own future as well as for humanity.
Just look at the youtube videos on the subject and see for yourself: I did, and I think it's swell.
The Rainbow Family is in tune with nature. Burning man is not.
Anti Capitalist? Um, okay... How much does it cost to go?
Burning Man attracts every out of work slug, lowlife, hippie, drug addict, lazy-ass lifelong students, potheads, faggots, drifters, and attention-seeking alternative lifestyle celebrities that come out of the woodwork. No responsible person would ever go to such a thing. These losers litter GSR every year before and after, as they beg and solicit in the lobby and in the parking lots.
Compare that scumbag lot with the crowds of people who visit Hot August Nights every year. Just one 1969 GTO on display there has more value than the total worth of 100,000 of these BM morons.
For once I almost have to agree with you Singer. BM is still mostly piece of shit hippies and a few piece of shit hippies that stumbled onto some money. They can think they change the world for a few days but most are perverts looking to bang f’d women like it’s Woodstock all over again.
As for HAN, unfortunately it also has become an event for criminals from Sac and San Jose with their low riders looking to get drunk and sell women and drugs. Best to avoid Reno for those weeks.
Looks like the asshat ZenKing is back with more of his know it all nonsense. Still believe the stupid fuck will end up broke sooner than later and as he nothing to fall back on, will end up a news story.
Nothing has shown he has the work ethic to make it gambling and face it, what else can he do. By no means is he dumb, but you can’t teach work ethic or common sense and this loser has neither.
I agree: a Trumpster at BM attempting to extoll the Trump Message would certainly destroy the good vibe of inclusion, freedom and generosity which is otherwise all-pervasive.
BM is the wrong venue to try to discuss building walls, locking up children and getting pissed on by Russian whores.
This is the typical shit from kneejerk liberals. Right now, black unemployment is the lowest it's ever been. Trump has the right idea. What was Obama's answer to high black unemployment? "Bring on the cheap illegal Labor!!!! Come and compete against our poor black people for the jobs at lower wages!!!! We need cheap latino and black labor!!!!"f
The children were made to walk across miles of 100 degree desert with little or no water by irresponsible parents....or non-parents using the kid to get into the country. The U.S. Government took the kids out of the heat, gave them a place to take showers, fed them, gave them clean clothes, and an air conditioned place to sleep.
Goddam right build a wall.
The "Russian whores" is a myth created by the collusion between Hillary and Russia to keep Trump out of office.
Kneejerk liberals like V are the asshats of America.
He has one sick mind.
This guy feeds off of Husbands and Wives and gets them coming and going.
He condones the Sin City Lifestyle of the Flesh Trade for Money which is in direct conflict with the Covenant of Marriage between man and woman.
He thinks that the Burning Man is a Good Thing. However he spits on the homeless and tells them he got money and ain't giving them any!
One Twisted Asshat is an understatement.
MrV, my original comment was meant as a joke. Obviously one you didn’t think was funny. Not meant to extoll the Trump message, or discuss building walls, etc. It’s the desert. It’s hot, one wears a hat.
Thank you for making my point, which was, liberals are definitely not tolerant nor inclusive to opposing thought.
My response was also "a joke."
I knew what you meant; I chose to ascribe the opposite meaning to it and spin it back at you.
As for me being "liberal:" uh, maybe on some social issues such as drugs, but politically I always vote libertarian.
I thought (and still think) that both Hillary and Trump are / were venal clowns.
I've never been to BM but have read, viewed and learned quite a bit about it and stand by the comments I've posted about it.
It is in many ways unique and it also epitomizes the very best that people can create, display and enjoy (especially the "art" vehicles and physical constructions).
It's a shame that narrow-minded people cannot for a moment open their eyes and appreciate the beauty of something without first viewing and judging it through a political lens: just shows how far we've devolved as a people.
I edited it because in hindsight it was sloppy thinking for me to link keeping gov't out of my life to liberalism.
Libs generally want more gov't, e.g. entitlement, regulation, and social programs: these are things I eschew.
I'd be happy to be left the hell alone in a world where people always act fairly toward one another; alas that dream is impossible, so voila, we have gov't.
Too bad.
Concur.
It would be funny if someone reported that illegal interstate (or is it intra-state) internet gambling they got going on there.
Not sure who follows it or even cares but I have to admit watching Kendry fuck with many WoV members gets funnier everyday. I still believe she is as stupid as she appears but I also am willing to admit she is smart enough to fuck with them as well. Now she is pissing them off talking about riding a bus for $5 in FP because she is broke.
Some are saying she has a gambling problem and should get help.
But as far as we know she never screwed her kids out of money while gambling away every last penny.
"Kendry?"
You mean Nathan?
Also posting as "Tasha" on this board?
Never heard of her.
The whining loser "Zenking" is back at it with his constant complaining. Now he is living in a Bed Bug infested condo, probably a Seigel Suite or some other shithole where down on their luck losing gamblers, whore's and drug addicts live.
But best of all he is "stuck" until the end of October so he doesn't know what to do. Do what the fuck any normal person would, take the hit and MOVE OUT Jackass. Or live with Bed Bugs because your situation is such that you don't have an option financially. It's not Rocket Science idiot.
Of course then he has to add in his usual bitching about crooked casinos and such. And ends with how he is the best.
I know some posters over there and here met him and say he is not that bad in person, but I honestly can't see how someone could spend 5 minutes with him and not beat the living shit out of him. He blamed WoV members for outing him at a casino. He has made threats against casinos and their staffs. His name is known to many people out there because of clues he put out there, not thinking someone would look into it. The best? What a joke.
I said it from the start and I'll say it again here, because you can't over there. This guy is a walking time bomb who we will be reading about sometime in the future. And not in a good way. I only hope innocent people don't go down with him. And I am as serious about this as I can be. I hope I'm wrong in this case.
Here's another good one.
https://www.blackjackinfo.com/commun...9/#post-497972
Another Day, more Kendry nonsense making certain members look like fools. Nothing new there but some take it as an affront to the forum. My personal opinion is the Wiz is enjoying the back and forth and sees her as a court jester. Someone to make fun of for his and others enjoyment.
I just see her as a low IQ idiot who has found a way to fuck with people there and uses it for her enjoyment. So maybe everyone is getting exactly what they want out of it. Win/ Win situation.
Win / win, for sure.
If Nathan is in fact as she seems to be, a clueless black 'tard, we get the smug satisfaction of putting her down.
If she's a clever sock we get to play along in a harmless charade.
You really like to visit this Shit Hole of a Forum when you have to defecate huh?
Instead of always bashing ZK, Dan Druff, MendleFunk and others why don't you give us some knowledge about plays inside of the Casinos?
Bashing is ok I suppose but you know mix it up a little bit and give away some information.
You see what happened to Keystone never offering anything of use except trolling entertainment for those who like such things.
ZK is like many other long time APs or Gamblers in Vegas who like to cry when things aren't going good.
This has nothing to suggest that he is going to go Postal.
As high and mighty and ethical as you are you should be ashamed to give your medical opinion without formal training or a degree.
You haven't even met the person in real life which is completely different than someones online persona.
I have actually thought about renting him my spare room in my house but I hesitate because I have no experience in Boarding.
I also don't like the idea of having someone in my house I haven't had much personal contact with and is 12k per year worth the worry or aggravation?
If I was more personal with him I would let him stay for free. I have told him through texts that his best play is to get in a serious relationship with a woman.
However he would have to find the right match for him and it could take some trial and error.
Even if he finds one that isn't as compatible he will still be able to reap the rewards of finding a woman with a house or apartment and decent credit, job, bank account... etc.
Vegas is easy to get shacked up with someone who at the least has a job and house/apartment.
All you have to do is show some love and attention/affection to a girl out here and they will bend over backwards for you.
The women have a tough time finding a decent man out here. You don't even have to be that decent it is so bad out here in Vegas.
Just halfway normal will suffice. If I can get married and live in a house with all amenities and 3 vehicles anyone can find a woman out here.
I came from the streets basically and ZK is in much better shape than I was when I met women and lived with them.
Even when I met my wife I was still in party mode every day and every night.
However, he seems dead set on doing things his own way though and that is fine. I have pretty much been the same way doing things the way I want to do them.
In words you understand Monet, fuck you.
You are a self admitted Piece of Shit who isn’t to be trusted, would fuck a friend over for a dollar and all the other things you admitted to. Yet you also try to present yourself as a benevolent do gooder looking to help others with free dinners, rooms and play advice.
Which Monet is the real one? I certainly don’t care but would advice anyone from trusting you. In my uneducated opinion, which i am not ashamed to provide.
Do what you want with ZK, but I think even that jackass knows not to trust you.
Hell of a reputation you have built there. Whatever your play is, I don’t care.
So comment all you want about me and my opinions. I’ll still do just fine and I have no doubt you will as well. We just have different ways of getting there. It obviously has worked for you, yet you are still looking for some kind of acceptance. I hope you find it.
Meanwhile I’ll keep calling out Bullshit and Shit where I see it. And you can take it for what it’s worth.
ZenKing told us and this site that it is garbage and he won't participate with us!?
Yet he posts this kind of stuff at WoV!? How does he not enjoy posting here?
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I don't care about my youth and opportunity anymore. This society is trash and full of droned out, immoral, unethical, and completely ignorant people. Just look at our government and the governments across the world. People sell their souls for a fucking dollar. A fucking piece of paper that doesn't even have any real value. Everyone just cares about what's in it for them at the expense of destroying anyone in the process if need be.
Then you look at the drones in society, the everyday citizen. None of them can think for themselves or have any education about things that actually matter. I now live each day on a free roll and whatever happens to me, i couldn't care less. I mean what's the point, I'm surrounded by zombies and corruption. I also already proved everyone wrong from my family and friends and also the doubters on this forum that said I would fail. Hey Zcore and Boz, hows that 'me living under a bridge' turning out for you guys? Hey Zcore what happened to me not being in Vegas after a year?
Nonetheless, I'm simply surrounded by a bunch of robots and feel completely helpless towards the future of this garbage society. There's just so much crap that's wrong going on, that I simply don't even want to list them anymore, but I've posted about much of it before. There's really no hope for anyone anymore, including 99% of businesses that don't know what the hell they're doing. Every business I look at, I can improve them if I ran the operations, but I couldn't care less about these drones anymore.
Just look at what the mass media has done to people. Everyone is completely brainwashed. People won't even wear certain clothes because it's not 'in style' or because some idiot celebrity is not wearing it. Do you realize how pathetic that is? It's like everyone is just a bunch of robots and can't critically think to themselves of why that makes any sense. Just a bunch of droned out sheep. Just look around you and compare that to how things used to be many centuries ago. No one can think for themselves and are completely brainwashed by what society thinks of them or what society tells them. These drones have also completely destroyed the economy and what our great country used to stand for by simply letting these corrupt and immoral elitists control them and brainwash them into this credit system as well and because they're drones they went along with it because they don't know any better.
I simply grew up in the wrong time period. I just don't see many people on my level in terms of critical analysis and thought processes and that's because I'm so ahead of my time.
The libtards at WoV have Kavanaugh convicted and sentenced. And even reasonable people now believe Blasey Ford is telling the truth. Idiots! Before anymore of you make up your mind look up "recovered memory." And this one here is the real showstopper. Blasey Ford's family is heavily invested in the abortion industry. When I say heavily I mean HEAVILY. They have made and stand to make multi-millions in the abortion industry. They don't need a Supreme Court Justice like Kavanaugh jeopardizing that. "Recovered Memory."
I am neither for nor against Brett Kavanaugh. As a registered republican, with liberal social values, meaning people should be allowed to marry and live with whoever they like my only concern with Kavanaugh was that the a republican supreme court may try to reverse gay marriage, although I have heard little talk of that. Abortion? I just don't have much of an option on.
So anyway, while I started out without any opinion on this Kavanaugh, Thursday's hearing changed that a bit for me. It wasn't Blazy-Ford or what ever her name is. I don't know what she is or isn't remembering. :confused: 36 years is a long time to suddenly want to hold someone accountable for something short of murder that happened in teen years. :rolleyes:
What disturbed me about Thursday's hearing was Kavanaugh's demeanor. He was angry, partisan and attacked those questioning him. Some might say anyone wrongly accused would be angry. I don't think so. Supreme court justices are supposed to be the best of us. The best of the best. They have to be level headed and hopefully fair-minded. Kavanaugh clearly wasn't.
And while I am still not rooting against him at this point, I believe he is done and it really has nothing to do with these assult accusations. The FBI is likely to come back saying they were unable to confirm or prove that these incidents didn't happen. That would be good for Kavanaugh.
But what should be bad and disqualifying is that he clearly lied about his drinking, drinking games, the meaning of devils triangle, the meaning of what he wrote on his year book and the meaning of other terms. And none of that should have even mattered. He should have just said, yeah I was a bit of a dick in High school and even in to college. Drank too much (just as most college males do). It didn't stop him from getting into Yale law school, becoming an attorney and federal judge. So in a way it should have been a success story.
But where the problem comes in is the lying about all this crap that just didn't matter and was not by itself disqualifying. And specifically, lying to congress. That is a crime. He could very well be charged with perjury. Probably should be, likely will not IMO, but it should disqualify him from the supreme court and maybe even his current position as a federal judge. He lied about really stupid shit that just didn't matter, over and over and THAT is not going to be hard for the FBI to determine.
Frankly the guy is a goofball. He seems sort of stuck in his teenage years. I think Trump should have cut him loose last week and moved to the next person on the list and picked someone that was cleaner, and not such a goofball. There is still plenty of time. Might not get a new candidate confirmed in 5 weeks by the election, but there is an 8 week lame duck period after the election where Repubs still control the senate, win or lose on election day and despite that dems would scream about it, there is no rule that says you can't confirm during a lame duck period.
That rant kew shows just how much analytical capability you truly lack.
Anyone with a clear mind can easily see how Kavanaugh is the perfect fit for our Supreme Court. Who cares that he drank beer and still does? And if he wasn't confused like you, having fun with and talking about girls in high school is perfectly normal. Then he backs it all up with first-in-class finishes before starting a stellar career. Abusing women would never just come to a screeching halt.
This nonsense will all be over in a little while. Judge Kavanaugh will become Justice Kavanaugh very shortly. Trump will win again. And yes, let's hope Kavanaugh does get involved in ending that blasphemous aberration of gay marriage.
What about all the lying you’ve done over the years? If we were to treat these forums in a similar setting, we could view your behavior very much the same.
You’ve been making claims for over 15 years without one ounce of proof. Yet, you expect everyone to believe your claims. Hell, you even claimed to be dead, but here you are still talking shit.
Of course, you don’t want him confirmed. You’re a homosexual with a couple wires crossed and view things differently than the vast majority of the world, or are just a blatant “Never Trump” “Snow Flake”.
You have assaulted and offended me with your lies over the years, and I certainly don’t have to prove you are lying. You have to prove you’re not lying. If you can’t prove you’re not lying with confirmed proof, then you should be banned from this and every other forum you attempt to participate in.
Frankly, you're a goofball. I think Dan should have cut you loose months ago.
Wow. What a surprise. More hate from the haters. Every subject. Every discussion. Nothing but angry OLD fossils full of hate and bitterness.
Luckily there is a remedy. Time.
Kewlj stop calling everyone else OLD. Now that I know you're in your mid 30s you should be aware that you're old too and to kids in high school and college you're already well past your prime. LOL
If you recall Blasey Ford's testimony she said she had a 2nd front door installed on her home in 2012 because of her trauma and wanted an extra escape hatch. But there is evidence the 2nd door was installed because they were running a business out of their home. Blasey Ford is a criminal fraud.
The evil left in counting on everyone's fairness and open-mindedness to get rid of Kavanaugh. They cannot be allowed to succeed. Kavanaugh must be confirmed. The hard left is evil incarnate.
Really? Washed up has-been Alan Mendelson who is in his late 60's and looks....well...I'll be kind and just leave it there...is attempting to call me "old". :D
My use of "old" is now sort of just in fun because MrV objected to that use. :p
But it isn't funny that most of the haters on these sites are people advanced or advancing in age. There really seems to be something to the fact that these older people are angry and bitter about something. Not all older people are angry and bitter, but it seems that most of the angry, bitter people on these sites are older people. :cool:
Kewlj, older people may have more experience.
Member troll non-member. Rejects not know.
kew, the only thing about you that someone like me would want is not to be so old. Yet when I look at you, there's zero envy there. You could drop dead any moment with your frailty, you live off your mommy and the govt in your mid-30's, you have no productive job and never will have, you have no future awaiting of any kind, and you allowed that short circuit in your head to lead to a bad choice about the most basic point of life.
So no....your situation offers NOTHING envious to any old guy. In fact, I'd take mickey's pathetic situation over yours.
At least you are somewhat amusing. I imagine you hunkered down under a Sonic drive-in canopy, trying to dodge the rain, for the night in your camper van with the leaky roof pondering such things. You should embrace your situation. After all it is the first of the month and once again you can eat with your monthly stipend. You crack me up thinking that money showing up on that government issued card is from something you built with your 2 bit life contributions. It's called an EBT card not 401k. Last I checked, no one gets rewarded for writing a book that if the advice was followed, it would destroy ones self.
Poor MendelFool fell for that BS and just look at him. Trying to tell us that losing everything was his life's ambition and brings him joy as he dodges creditors and family members, by hiding behind and under the gaming equipment of Red Rock Casino.
Someone tell Shack you don't draw to Jack Hi flushes in Crazy Pineapple. And when the board is paired it's an even worse play.
Could you imagine Red over there? They'd still be talking about everything that happened on the first day, still trying to parse it all out, and never finding a way to just post it. The stuff of "packages".
Actually, I think it is the other way around. WoV is becoming very irrelevant with out mickey, myself, and a few other good contributing posters that Shack kicked to the curb. :rolleyes:
Because it is usually late in the day, when I get around to taking a look at WoV, to see if there was anything posted that might possibly be beneficial to me, I get to see the member visits totals at the very end of the day. Last Saturday for instances 135. Sunday 144. The prior weekend both days in low 140's. These are new lows at WoV....135 the lowest I have seen. Most weekdays are slightly higher usually just around 160, which is still way off the daily average of 300+ from just a couple years ago when mickey and I were there. :D
Since we are asking Shack questions.....I have one. How is QFIT doing contributing positively to your forum Mike? Looks like he has posted half dozen posts this year, mostly promoting something on his site, two after my name was mentioned to add something negative. Yep it was a good choice to ban who you called "a good contributing member" because QFIT, who never had any intention of contributing positively demanded it of you.
As for mickey, what a mistake. As anyone who reads this site can clearly see, mickeycrimm is one of the best posters in the gambling community. His posts and contributions benefit many. He is a huge asset to any site that he participates on. I said at the time, it was a mistake to not 'find' a way that would allow mickey to continue to contribute in such a positive manner. And one of the other mods suggested such a way, but Michael Shackleford couldn't be flexible enough to allow it. Mike is very rigged and inflexible, which is not the trait of a successful person. As a result mickey shares his wisdom here, in this shithole, rather than a forum where many could benefit.
And oh by the way, we all make mistakes, bad judgements, bad calls. The really telling part is when a person is unwilling to attempt to correct suck a mistake, with the benefit of hindsight and instead looks for a reason to double down on his initial mistake for the sake of his ego. I think that applies to Mr. Shackleford in both these cases.
Stop putting your church girls in my brothels.
Just don't tip.
Stop making excuses why you don't tip or give some bum a quarter.
And stop projecting your shit on others.
Stop doing things against your better judgement and running to the forums to cry about it like the V Bitch that you are.
You're not the sharpest knife in the drawer, are you, Monet?
Oh BTW thanks for importing my WOV post to this board: saves me the trouble.
FWIW I typically do tip the boys after a session concludes, and I often make at least one or more bets for them while a session is unfolding.
This was a very short, cold session of about three shooters only.
I will usually tip craps dealers: I do not tip roadside beggars.
Your attempt to consider the two as congruent has been an epic fail.
Let me lay it out for you in terms even you should be able to grasp: Craps dealers are usually OK; homeless beggars should be thrown off of a cliff.
We clear now, sport?
Yes, the old gray board just ain't what she used to be, but it is not solely for the reason you state, although the loss of several posters has certainly been an influence.
I think part of the reason the board isn't as popular as it once was is because the wiz sold it.
It isn't his baby anymore, he's just a very well paid hired hand.
It is subjective and tough to prove, but my impression is that he's not as involved, as caring, and as giving of himself to the board as he was pre-sale.
WoV is akin to a clubhouse, and if the leader is phoning it in it's tough to rally the membership.
I don't fault him for it at all: it is a natural progression and totally consistent with human nature.
Life goes on, evolves, and changes: just the way it is.
Here is your unbiased and evenhanded mods at work on WoV:
Billryan on the Suspension List
6/20/18 3 days
7/17/18 3 days
8/31/18 3 days
11/25/18 3 days
12/3/18 3 days
WatchMeWin on the suspension list
10/3/18 3 days
10/8/18 14 days
10/30/18 14 days
11/12/18 28 days
12/8/18 2 months
A bonified libtard is to valuable for the martingale.
Shackleford's fault. Mike is a very insecure person. He has proven that time and time again. A prime example is my situation. Mike bent over backwards because he wanted Norm (Qfit) to like him. remember Mike called QFIT a friend. But QFIT never called Mike a friend. The only time I ever saw QFIT post anything about Mike, he said that he didn't trust him because of his association with Venetian. Does that sound like a friend? :confused: Oh and what does QFIT contribute these days? Nothing since he used Mike to get what he wanted. :rolleyes:
Anyway, as I said Mike Shackleford is a very insecure person. A brilliant math guy and hopefully that has served him well as an AP (I don't honestly know), But he really is a very insecure person and that comes through in the way he runs and behaves on his forum WoV. And yes I know he no longer owns it, but it is still "his forum". He sets the tone. The whole suspension list is one of those tone's based on his insecurities that he set. "Wall of shame", "public shaming"...these are Mike's own words and they are the words of a very insecure man.
So insecure Mike Shackleford set the tone, and the other mods follow suit. And that is why WoV is what it is today. A shell of it's former self. Let's see 8:30 pm. 143 members have visited. They might hit 150 by midnight. That is half of a few years ago, when the gambling/AP community took WoV seriously. Now it is just a clubhouse for a bunch of older guys that never grew out of the junior high mentality. You know insecurities and public shaming type stuff. When they get together they probably give each other wedgies and fart on each other. What a shame that is what WoV has become. :(
So you are saying billryan is a liberal? I don't read the political stuff, so I don't rightly know. :confused:
Back on the old blackjackinfo, where billryan posted under the handle 'shadroch', it was rumored he was gay. I have heard him talk about a daughter though not that would mean anything. MY late partner has 3 sons. I do know billryan is from NYC, where I think he owned a bar. NYC and gay tend to lean liberal. Not always though.
I gotta say, I am pretty surprised at the quality of billryan's participation at WoV. At BJinfo he was a serious poster, posting about blackjack and advantage play. He was not a professional player (like I said, I believe he owned a bar for a living), but was a part-time recreational player with a great deal of knowledge. I learned a great deal from him. His participation at WoV is a shell of what he used to be, but then that fits right in with WoV. Anyway he seems very comfortable in that silly ass format. But I do find it surprising.
WatchMeWin is considered a dice degenerate or a ploppy who is not teamed up with the forum.
Billyryan is considered more of a low rolling AP who is teamed up with forum members and shows up to the outings with the group.
If you are a member who socializes with the group you will get more leniency.
If you are a member of the forum who has knowledge and is in the world of gaming/gambling and they like you they will also be biased for you.
Mickeycrimm knows what B.A.R.G.E is or was... The inner group of WoV is very similar.
Both groups are very math oriented and I would not doubt you have some cross over.
Both groups are very niche.
He's not a run of the mill liberal. He hates anyone who is not a lefty. I no longer read the thread because the lefties in it are just bizarre crazy world fanatics. Billryan wasn't getting any suspensions at all for his insults while those on the right were. He and ams288 were getting away with a lot but complaints about unequal treatment finally got Babs to start suspending them but just for three days a pop. But then one time she tried to let one of his insults slip by. The victim took it to Mission who "consulted" with Babs and they "agreed" a suspension was called for, 3 days. Those on the right get martingaled.
Babs....Trump didn't unleash the demons in you. You unleashed the demons in yourselves. Take a look at the Yellow Vests in France. If you lefties get your way then one day that movement will take hold in this country. There is only so much that working people can take from the all powerful federal government. What's the problem over in France? Their all powerful federal government was already spending 56% of the gross domestic product. That is an obscene number. But not enough for you lefty socialist fascists. That's the problem with you lefties. If you had all the money and power in the world you would still want more. That asshole, Macron, tried to make another money grab. Fucking asshole. Get ready for it, Babs. The Yellow Vest Movement is coming to America. There will be riots in the streets if you lefties keep fucking this country over.
FYI babs doesn't read this forum.