The Verdict Is?

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Originally Posted by Dan Druff

I will also state for the record that I don't belive MDawg is a scammer, and shouldn't be treated like one. Do I believe he was truthful about his casino exploits? Obviously not. He does seem to bet large -- at least at times -- and I believe he does get some impressive comps. However, I believe him to be more of a casino whale than anything else, and not an AP or winning long term gambler. For whatever reason he wants to live a fantasy on these boards that he is a big winner. While I understand legitimate APs being irritated with these claims, it's important to understand that MDawg does not seem to be setting up any kind of monetary scam, nor does he have any history of ripping anyone off. He simply likes to tell tall tales.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

Exactly,,,

He literally named his supposed building. He has so many lies he can't keep them all organized. This fraud is most likely living in the tunnel next to the Rawson-Neal psychiatric hospital.

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I don't know what has gotten into you Maxpen. Seems like you now think we are at war and are going to keep attacking me with lies. I've seen this before with you when you did the same thing with mickeycrimm. Mickey never did anything to you. He simply said that he believed Singer's DU bug. I was as surprised as anyone, and voiced that surprise. I still think that may be mickey playing with us. BUT YOU, went off the deep end, attacking mickeycrimm and calling him every name you could think of, including saying many things you knew weren't true.

Yes, mickey trolled back. He will always troll back....its in his DNA. But you started that long running bullshit with many lies about mickey. And Now you are doing the same thing with me. Yes, MaxPen, you proved that there was no legal case filed. I have admitted I lied about that part, hoping to end discussion before some info about my settlement came out. That little stunt actually did just the opposite, had people talking even longer.

None of that matters though, now you are just making up shit about me, like we are at war or something. I guess YOU are.

Keep in mind, I know your name. I didn't until someone told me in the last week. And an address. I don't know if that address is current, as I haven't looked and have no reason to. I am not saying this as a thread in any way. I would never dox an AP. I am simply reminding you, to think how you would feel if someone did. What if someone repeatedly posted information and even sent that information to casinos? I don't think you would appreciate it every much. And yet, now because you have decided we are at war or something, you think it perfectly fine that Mdawg continues to repeatedly do this.

You don't have to like me MaxPen. I do expect you to act like a reasonable person and stop making up shit about me, as if I did something to you.

And this thing about me not wanting to get too close to some of you AP's in Vegas. Thanks for making my case.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by Ray Finkle

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

Surfboards last about 8 years before they crack and are no good. Even if you wax and oil them regularly....

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What do you oil them with?

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Surfboard oils and waxes are available in every surf shop. Back in my day, most oils were made with or contained coconut oil. I don't think there was anything special about coconut oil, other than it made the consistency of the oil a little thicker (about the consistency of sun tan lotion) which made the application better. I had a couple friends that would just use regular vegetable oil and claimed it worked just as well.

You apply a coating of oil and really let it soak in for several hours. This keeps the board from drying out and cracking. Then you apply a coat or several thin coats of surfboard wax. The wax locks the oils in, but that is not the main purpose. The wax actually provides a better grip or traction. I know it sounds like it would be the opposite, but it isn't.

You really should strip off the wax and re-apply oil and wax ever 6 weeks or so. But a lot of guys get lazy and just apply more wax when the board starts to become slippery.

Come on Ray, you played for the Dolphins....you didn't go surfing in Miami? :cool:

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Wow. Sounds like you know a lot about it.
Pretty impressive...

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

Exactly,,,

He literally named his supposed building. He has so many lies he can't keep them all organized. This fraud is most likely living in the tunnel next to the Rawson-Neal psychiatric hospital.

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I don't know what has gotten into you Maxpen. Seems like you now think we are at war and are going to keep attacking me with lies. I've seen this before with you when you did the same thing with mickeycrimm. Mickey never did anything to you. He simply said that he believed Singer's DU bug. I was as surprised as anyone, and voiced that surprise. I still think that may be mickey playing with us. BUT YOU, went off the deep end, attacking mickeycrimm and calling him every name you could think of, including saying many things you knew weren't true.

Yes, mickey trolled back. He will always troll back....its in his DNA. But you started that long running bullshit with many lies about mickey. And Now you are doing the same thing with me. Yes, MaxPen, you proved that there was no legal case filed. I have admitted I lied about that part, hoping to end discussion before some info about my settlement came out. That little stunt actually did just the opposite, had people talking even longer.

None of that matters though, now you are just making up shit about me, like we are at war or something. I guess YOU are.

Keep in mind, I know your name. I didn't until someone told me in the last week. And an address. I don't know if that address is current, as I haven't looked and have no reason to. I am not saying this as a thread in any way. I would never dox an AP. I am simply reminding you, to think how you would feel if someone did. What if someone repeatedly posted information and even sent that information to casinos? I don't think you would appreciate it every much. And yet, now because you have decided we are at war or something, you think it perfectly fine that Mdawg continues to repeatedly do this.

You don't have to like me MaxPen. I do expect you to act like a reasonable person and stop making up shit about me, as if I did something to you.

And this thing about me not wanting to get too close to some of you AP's in Vegas. Thanks for making my case.

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First of all 100% you don't know my name. So just stop with that nonsense. Even if you did it actually wouldn't affect me in anyway. Secondly, get off the nonsense about hanging out. I asked you once if you wanted to come out and play pickleball. This is when you were airing your troubles with Wizard. I didn't give a shit then or now that you didn't want to face anyone. But now I understand why.

The only one making up shit is you. You related me to an armed robber. You've concocted like 4 untrue things about what I've said in this thread alone and threatened me twice.

So keep making your threats and implications and you'll find out what a war really is. If you think a war is people exposing your lies and nonsense you have a lot to learn about war.

Feel free to tell me what lies are in my above post. You did name your supposed building yourself. Then you run around whining to Dan and who knows else if someone else mentions it. Hell, as paranoid as you are you'd probably move if someone really knew where you lived. So it's obvious you don't live there. If you do live there nobody cares anyhow. You even said something about me looking and finding where you live and telling you that. Another lie by the way. Put up where I ever said some nonsense like that. You can't because it's just another made up thing in your mind. It's whatever fits with the current concocted narrative you have in your mind at the time. You're mentally ill.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

You have put out enough info on the buying and selling of these 2 places to be fully identified. Provided the figures are correct. Why do you insist on jeopardizing yourself and then claim to be so private? I'm not sure you realize what you are doing.

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Here is what you said. I don't know if you looked into it or not. I always kind of figured you did. Maybe I am wrong.

I also don't believe you said this to harm me. But I think it has that effect because I believe someone did exactly that.....looked up records of those two places.

I remember when you posted this. My reaction was why didn't he just warn me by telling me this. Why did he have to blab it to the forum.

And you can say that I am the stupid one for saying anything. TRUE. But I just don't think like that, or at least didn't used to. I used to be concerned with casino personnel and by extension database personnel. Over the past few years a much bigger and costlier issue for me has been a guy on a forum, pissed because I dared say what he claims is not the way Las Vegas works.

Anyway, I'll leave you to it. Meant to be on here 20 minutes.

What makes no sense is, why someone who claimed to be hand-delivered a player's personal and casino win/loss records directly to his door by MGM "Corporate Operatives" on Halloween evening, would ever have any issues whatsoever with someone doing any kind of "doxxing" of that dumb address at all.

Trick-or-treat!

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

You have put out enough info on the buying and selling of these 2 places to be fully identified. Provided the figures are correct. Why do you insist on jeopardizing yourself and then claim to be so private? I'm not sure you realize what you are doing.

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Here is what you said. I don't know if you looked into it or not. I always kind of figured you did. Maybe I am wrong.

I also don't believe you said this to harm me. But I think it has that effect because I believe someone did exactly that.....looked up records of those two places.

I remember when you posted this. My reaction was why didn't he just warn me by telling me this. Why did he have to blab it to the forum.

And you can say that I am the stupid one for saying anything. TRUE. But I just don't think like that, or at least didn't used to. I used to be concerned with casino personnel and by extension database personnel. Over the past few years a much bigger and costlier issue for me has been a guy on a forum, pissed because I dared say what he claims is not the way Las Vegas works.

Anyway, I'll leave you to it. Meant to be on here 20 minutes.

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You turned that into this.

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

If you know my name and I don't know whether you do or not, but you said you matched a name from my house sale to my condo purchase

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Then you claim that you're some kind of victim of war. I have literally called you out multiple times on complete distortion of fact in regards to things you say I said. Like I said, it must be mental illness. You're a habitual liar incapable of facts. You just create whatever works in your mind at the moment. Really, the best thing for you to do is exit stage left. Your credibility is completely shot and unrecoverable....RIP

Wipeout!!!!

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

Exactly,,,

He literally named his supposed building. He has so many lies he can't keep them all organized. This fraud is most likely living in the tunnel next to the Rawson-Neal psychiatric hospital.

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I don't know what has gotten into you Maxpen. Seems like you now think we are at war and are going to keep attacking me with lies. I've seen this before with you when you did the same thing with mickeycrimm. Mickey never did anything to you. He simply said that he believed Singer's DU bug. I was as surprised as anyone, and voiced that surprise. I still think that may be mickey playing with us. BUT YOU, went off the deep end, attacking mickeycrimm and calling him every name you could think of, including saying many things you knew weren't true.

Yes, mickey trolled back. He will always troll back....its in his DNA. But you started that long running bullshit with many lies about mickey. And Now you are doing the same thing with me. Yes, MaxPen, you proved that there was no legal case filed. I have admitted I lied about that part, hoping to end discussion before some info about my settlement came out. That little stunt actually did just the opposite, had people talking even longer.

None of that matters though, now you are just making up shit about me, like we are at war or something. I guess YOU are.

Keep in mind, I know your name. I didn't until someone told me in the last week. And an address. I don't know if that address is current, as I haven't looked and have no reason to. I am not saying this as a thread in any way. I would never dox an AP. I am simply reminding you, to think how you would feel if someone did. What if someone repeatedly posted information and even sent that information to casinos? I don't think you would appreciate it every much. And yet, now because you have decided we are at war or something, you think it perfectly fine that Mdawg continues to repeatedly do this.

You don't have to like me MaxPen. I do expect you to act like a reasonable person and stop making up shit about me, as if I did something to you.

And this thing about me not wanting to get too close to some of you AP's in Vegas. Thanks for making my case.

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Mickey Max was one of the greatest troll battles on here. Rarely do we get 2 legit APs going at it in the ring .. it was a draw but damn what a match.

Grow the fuck up Kewl. You act like a child amongst grown mature men.

No one outside of Singer and Mdawg is at war with you. You're getting clowned on because you asked for it. You dug yourself into a hole again with me. I'm talking about the shuffler after I questioned it. You could have just kept with your vagueness but you went off into a storyville without thinking it through. (Or simply not having what is needed to think it through properly.) Then you keep insisting it was only 1 little lie about the lawsuit when another one has recently surfaced.

If later you lie to try and make some previous claim legitimate then it probably also isn't legit.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

What makes no sense is, why someone who claimed to be hand-delivered a player's personal and casino win/loss records directly to his door by MGM "Corporate Operatives" on Halloween evening, would ever have any issues whatsoever with someone doing any kind of "doxxing" of that dumb address at all.

Trick-or-treat!

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It's a a bunch of BS. There is no one handing him anything. Just like no one told him my name. Just like no one is doxxing him. On and on and on. Etc. Etc

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Originally Posted by smurgerburger

Wipeout!!!!

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https://youtu.be/mKpsuGMeqHI

And Kewl don't get too excited because the name is Dick Dale...

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Originally Posted by accountinquestion

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

Exactly,,,

He literally named his supposed building. He has so many lies he can't keep them all organized. This fraud is most likely living in the tunnel next to the Rawson-Neal psychiatric hospital.

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I don't know what has gotten into you Maxpen. Seems like you now think we are at war and are going to keep attacking me with lies. I've seen this before with you when you did the same thing with mickeycrimm. Mickey never did anything to you. He simply said that he believed Singer's DU bug. I was as surprised as anyone, and voiced that surprise. I still think that may be mickey playing with us. BUT YOU, went off the deep end, attacking mickeycrimm and calling him every name you could think of, including saying many things you knew weren't true.

Yes, mickey trolled back. He will always troll back....its in his DNA. But you started that long running bullshit with many lies about mickey. And Now you are doing the same thing with me. Yes, MaxPen, you proved that there was no legal case filed. I have admitted I lied about that part, hoping to end discussion before some info about my settlement came out. That little stunt actually did just the opposite, had people talking even longer.

None of that matters though, now you are just making up shit about me, like we are at war or something. I guess YOU are.

Keep in mind, I know your name. I didn't until someone told me in the last week. And an address. I don't know if that address is current, as I haven't looked and have no reason to. I am not saying this as a thread in any way. I would never dox an AP. I am simply reminding you, to think how you would feel if someone did. What if someone repeatedly posted information and even sent that information to casinos? I don't think you would appreciate it every much. And yet, now because you have decided we are at war or something, you think it perfectly fine that Mdawg continues to repeatedly do this.

You don't have to like me MaxPen. I do expect you to act like a reasonable person and stop making up shit about me, as if I did something to you.

And this thing about me not wanting to get too close to some of you AP's in Vegas. Thanks for making my case.

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Mickey Max was one of the greatest troll battles on here. Rarely do we get 2 legit APs going at it in the ring .. it was a draw but damn what a match.

Grow the fuck up Kewl. You act like a child amongst grown mature men.

No one outside of Singer and Mdawg is at war with you. You're getting clowned on because you asked for it. You dug yourself into a hole again with me. I'm talking about the shuffler after I questioned it. You could have just kept with your vagueness but you went off into a storyville without thinking it through. (Or simply not having what is needed to think it through properly.) Then you keep insisting it was only 1 little lie about the lawsuit when another one has recently surfaced.

If later you lie to try and make some previous claim legitimate then it probably also isn't legit.

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Crimm vs MadMax is ranked 3rd, behind Singer vs Crimm( 1st) and Singer vs Kew(2nd). Singer vs Crimm was by far the biggest LOL in forum history !

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Originally Posted by Ozzy

Crimm vs MadMax is ranked 3rd, behind Singer vs Crimm( 1st) and Singer vs Kew(2nd). Singer vs Crimm was by far the biggest LOL in forum history !

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Before my time .. we need a mdawg style synopsis with built-in forum page hotlinks.

Come'on Ozzy contribute to the community.

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I don't know what has gotten into you Maxpen. Seems like you now think we are at war and are going to keep attacking me with lies. I've seen this before with you when you did the same thing with mickeycrimm. Mickey never did anything to you. He simply said that he believed Singer's DU bug. I was as surprised as anyone, and voiced that surprise. I still think that may be mickey playing with us. BUT YOU, went off the deep end, attacking mickeycrimm and calling him every name you could think of, including saying many things you knew weren't true.

Yes, mickey trolled back. He will always troll back....its in his DNA. But you started that long running bullshit with many lies about mickey. And Now you are doing the same thing with me. Yes, MaxPen, you proved that there was no legal case filed. I have admitted I lied about that part, hoping to end discussion before some info about my settlement came out. That little stunt actually did just the opposite, had people talking even longer.

None of that matters though, now you are just making up shit about me, like we are at war or something. I guess YOU are.

Keep in mind, I know your name. I didn't until someone told me in the last week. And an address. I don't know if that address is current, as I haven't looked and have no reason to. I am not saying this as a thread in any way. I would never dox an AP. I am simply reminding you, to think how you would feel if someone did. What if someone repeatedly posted information and even sent that information to casinos? I don't think you would appreciate it every much. And yet, now because you have decided we are at war or something, you think it perfectly fine that Mdawg continues to repeatedly do this.

You don't have to like me MaxPen. I do expect you to act like a reasonable person and stop making up shit about me, as if I did something to you.

And this thing about me not wanting to get too close to some of you AP's in Vegas. Thanks for making my case.

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Mickey Max was one of the greatest troll battles on here. Rarely do we get 2 legit APs going at it in the ring .. it was a draw but damn what a match.

Grow the fuck up Kewl. You act like a child amongst grown mature men.

No one outside of Singer and Mdawg is at war with you. You're getting clowned on because you asked for it. You dug yourself into a hole again with me. I'm talking about the shuffler after I questioned it. You could have just kept with your vagueness but you went off into a storyville without thinking it through. (Or simply not having what is needed to think it through properly.) Then you keep insisting it was only 1 little lie about the lawsuit when another one has recently surfaced.

If later you lie to try and make some previous claim legitimate then it probably also isn't legit.

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Crimm vs MadMax is ranked 3rd, behind Singer vs Crimm( 1st) and Singer vs Kew(2nd). Singer vs Crimm was by far the biggest LOL in forum history !

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I just want to remind you guys that I still have the thickest cock on the forum.

Secondly I’m also the only one who figured out what Jason does for a living. Blackjack was always a cover story, you guys just didn’t believe it lol.

To be fair Kewj didn’t get into the escort business until after his partner passed away. It’s my understanding that him, and his late partner did do some low rolling AP things around town just enough to get by.

Once I confirmed all this I kind of felt sorry for the dude. I let him be, because it wasn’t worth my time to do a full Mdawg report. The guy is literally just a pathetic lonely gay escort. Maybe he makes up all these lies for entertainment. Is clear that he spends most of his days reading, and posting on every gambling forum on the internet. Sad man real sad lol neighbor guy fucked his brain up real good

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

What makes no sense is, why someone who claimed to be hand-delivered a player's personal and casino win/loss records directly to his door by MGM "Corporate Operatives" on Halloween evening, would ever have any issues whatsoever with someone doing any kind of "doxxing" of that dumb address at all.

Trick-or-treat!

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It's a a bunch of BS. There is no one handing him anything. Just like no one told him my name. Just like no one is doxxing him. On and on and on. Etc. Etc

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Typical UNKewl response when the truth about him comes out “Remember that I got the goods on you but I’m not going to disclose them.” (Because I don't have them.)

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

I'm getting tired of you throwing out lies about PMs.

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Another crock is what I just read, going back over the past few days because I had mostly just skimmed the thread for a while now, something about Wizard told him that he had 11 PMs waiting unread from me? More nonsense, seriously compulsive liars make stuff up that doesn't even make sense.

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Originally Posted by MaxPen

I have literally called you out multiple times on complete distortion of fact in regards to things you say I said. Like I said, it must be mental illness. You're a habitual liar incapable of facts. You just create whatever works in your mind at the moment. Really, the best thing for you to do is exit stage left. Your credibility is completely shot and unrecoverable....RIP

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Secondly I’m also the only one who figured out what Jason does for a living. Blackjack was always a cover story, you guys just didn’t believe it lol.

To be fair Kewj didn’t get into the escort business until after his partner passed away. It’s my understanding that him, and his late partner did do some low rolling AP things around town just enough to get by.

Once I confirmed all this I kind of felt sorry for the dude. I let him be, because it wasn’t worth my time to do a full Mdawg report. The guy is literally just a pathetic lonely gay escort. Maybe he makes up all these lies for entertainment. Is clear that he spends most of his days reading, and posting on every gambling forum on the internet. Sad man real sad lol neighbor guy fucked his brain up real good

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Originally Posted by kewlJ

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

As I was skimming I noticed some talk about bet levels (KJ's) I can confirm that Max didn't come up with the red chipping stuff late in the game. I knew this to have been noted YEARS ago. He did note that it was within the tolerance level of that location.

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This has really turned into some kind of witchhunt.

For years Maxpen said that he had seen me playing at several different locations. I assumed the was based on a description that has been out there of me and matching the betting levels that I shared that I played. I never had reason to doubt him. BUT, if he is now saying the person he thought was me, was playing much lower levels than I play...well then he has the wrong guy. It is that simple.

I assume someone like Maxpen has access to OSN right? So easy solution. I have two entries on OSN. Unfortunately both have fairly clear pictures. One of the entries also lists a name, which is incorrect courtesy of Mdawg, but it also says AKA Kewlj. So you should definitely be able to find the right entry. So supersleuth Maxpen should be able to confirm if I am indeed the person he is thinking of, because what he is now claiming years later about playing limits is just flat out incorrect.

I trust that Maxpen isn't just on a complete witchhunt and lying, so I am asking him to look at the picture and confirm I am the person he is thinking of.

Now the trolls are even obsessing about our driving to Southern Cal. Rob calling it a fake trip. Madag saying we didn't go because there would have been bumper to bumper traffic on a Sunday. Newsflash: We left at 12:30 pm just after noon, to avoid the Sunday late afternoon and evening bottle neck. While there was traffic, it flowed very nicely. But that's not the point. The point is how the trolls are obsessing over every little thing I do. Get a fucking life.

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I'm certainly not on a witch hunt. I'm just saying what I know. I don't know what you bet. I'm certain I couldn't pick you out of a lineup.

It doesn't really matter to me what limits you play, where you play, it doesn't matter to me how much or how you make your money. It doesn't matter to me if the backroom stuff is legitimate or not. I do/did find some things odd regarding your BJ stuff, but it's pointless to even talk about it all again. I'm kinda thinking you are Magister on WOV.

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I'm certainly not on a witch hunt. I'm just saying what I know. I don't know what you bet. I'm certain I couldn't pick you out of a lineup.

It doesn't really matter to me what limits you play, where you play, it doesn't matter to me how much or how you make your money. It doesn't matter to me if the backroom stuff is legitimate or not. I do/did find some things odd regarding your BJ stuff, but it's pointless to even talk about it all again. I'm kinda thinking you are Magister on WOV.

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You're as bad as kewlJ.
Constantly telling us how you aren't going to post anymore but keep on posting.
You went through your whole 2 years of preaching about Masking Up and Vaccines.
You're so Phony!

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Originally Posted by AxelWolf

I do/did find some things odd regarding your BJ stuff, but it's pointless to even talk about it all again. I'm kinda thinking you are Magister on WOV.

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The what limit I play crap only matters because it is part of a continuing attempt to discredit me. I would assume some people have seen me, seen me play and even played at the same table as me over the years. So it didn't surprise me that MaxPen said he saw me. But in all that time that he thought he saw me he never said a word about the person he thought was me playing lower stakes. If he had, I would have told him years ago that he had the wrong guy. That he is NOW bringing it up, when everyone is trying to discredit me, including the guy claiming prostitute shit, seems disingenuous to me.

If you or anyone had questions about anything I shared regarding my blackjack play, you should have asked. I have always been willing to answer any questions or explain any confusion about what I do or what I have said. A perfect example is this thread started by Blackhole. Blackhole, you will remember isn't just a KJ haters, but an AP hater. In this case he started this thread to throw everything he could think of at me and I answered all his concerns reasonably, backed by the math when applicable and even shared some of the things I do or id that allowed for the longevity that I had. It's a good read actually I think, although I may have ended up sharing some things (especially cover type shit) that I would have been better not to have shared. But my point is, if you had any questions or found anything "odd, you should have spoken up. I have always been willing to discuss shit.

https://vegascasinotalk.com/forum/sh...ts-or-Bullshit