The 18 yo's

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Originally Posted by monet

When I started messing about on Gambling Forums I thought it was going to be a place to talk about gambling and plays and such.

I started with a post about this play at a bar that had Bingo Cards. I didn't tell anyone where the play was. It took months for those members to believe that I wasn't a Sock or that I was a real person in Vegas. Your pal Axelwolf would PM me asking where the play was that he wouldn't burn the play out and only wanted free food at times. LOL! Recently I have been told that Axelwolf is very shady from PMs and real life interactions and to me that is nothing new or unknown in the real world. Nothing new to me because I have been in it and in this town over 20 years now. I live it so these guys can't get over on me. You all want to play make believe and pretend on the forums... go ahead but I will continue to bash that bullshit.

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I honestly have no recollection of what post you might be referring to that was your first post.

I agree that people are very rarely given the benefit of the doubt, in terms of being AP's or being a, "Real person in Vegas." People want to get one another's bona fides, which I think is understandable if a person wants to provide his bona fides. If a person does not want to, I don't see that as justification for insinuating that a person is a liar. Either believe the person or do not believe him. Either read his posts or don't read them. If you think someone is bupkis, just block him.

I can speak to my personal experiences with Axelwolf, but given my favorable opinion of him and his friends/co-workers who I have met, I assume you would not be interested. Given these same favorable experiences, I have no interest in anything anybody else says.

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It took me awhile to realize what was really going on. I didn't even read the rules and didn't realize that WoV was such a Totalitarian Environment.
When I realized what it was I rebelled against it and the followers of it.

Make no mistake. I am not going to post up how I hang out with people who are bad people and have no idea that they are bad people.
I am a bad guy. In real life I am constantly verbally abusing someone. I am also a control junkie.

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That's fine, you can either adhere to an environment or rebel against it. You're free to do any of those things. I really don't care what individual people do and didn't care on a personal level when I was an Administrator there. A person either broke the rules or did not.

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I don't see where anyone was lying about BBB and her weight.
I could never see her handling my work load.

This is the land of Trolls. Either get to Trolling or be Trolled.

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I wasn't necessarily referring to you. Even then, does something have to be a lie to qualify as an insult?

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Obviously you forgave him because not long ago you said you were finished reading anything he posted and you would not respond to his posts.

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You know what? I kind of thought that I had, but wasn't actually sure. I know I eventually stopped responding to Freddie, or maybe it was that other one...over on the other forum.

Do you mean before I was gone for a few months?

Anyway, he'll get his fair notice before I actually block him, should it come to that.

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Originally Posted by Mission146

I wasn't necessarily referring to you. Even then, does something have to be a lie to qualify as an insult?

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You guys can't have it both ways in my mind.

The precious Wiz/Mike posted a week or so ago that you can call him a fool if you want and that is ok because he can take it.
Nobody has posted that he is a fool since he dared them to do and that is because he can't take it.
If someone called him a fool or told him to jump off a cliff he would ban them.
He is a fool though. He states that the man in the sky doesn't exist and people who believe in him are delusional.
However when someone he knows dies he shows up in a Church and makes a speech. Hypocrite!
My point is if someone was a Devil Worshiper and I knew them and they died and the family asked me to show up at the Church of Satan and make a speech I would refuse.

WoV and the AP members have constantly stated they are a thick skinned bunch and if you can't take it... there is the door.
However they want to draw a line in the sand of what is acceptable or not acceptable in the insult world.
Double Standard Bullshit that I refuse to go along with.

About you and Axelwolf.
Your opinion is too biased.
Everyone that does this for a living knows that you are loyal to him and his people and will not say one thing negative about such things.

It's perfectly fine for you to feel that way.

I always believed that my job as an Administrator was to determine whether or not something qualified as an insult, and act accordingly, rather than try to question insults according to, "Degrees," or what have you. It either was an insult or it was not. The only real exception I tended to make was light barbs between known friends. I also adamantly refused to ban anyone for an insult against me and asked other Admins not to ban anyone for insulting me.

That's the main reason why I generally refused to Administrate the political threads unless someone directly invoked me to take care of an obvious case. It had nothing to do with any Liberal leanings. It had to do with the notion that those would not be moderated, "As tightly," or however you want to put it. No thanks. The rules either apply or they do not apply. That's why I would have eliminated any ad hominem statements entirely had it been up to me, no gray area at all.

Anyway, that's if I ran things. An insult is an insult 100% of the time. Either that, or insults are 100% permitted. But, you have to pick one. I tend to think zero insults is better for the growth of a forum than unlimited insults. The repeated failures or slow growth rates of other gambling forums (and forums on other subjects) that allow unlimited insults compared to those that allow no insults seems to support my assertion. At least, in terms of message boards that I've experienced.

As we can all see, the extreme sissified atmosphere on the WoV forum of easily hurt feelings, snowflake stress, weirdo transgender and same sex marriage sensitivities, and the libtard mentality, equates to nothing more than being a home for a bunch of lonely pussies.

I can see why so many of you run over here in an effort to feel like human beings again. After all, who doesn't enjoy insults? But may I suggest less windbag posts?

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

weirdo transgender and same sex marriage sensitivities.

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The only thing weird is you giving a fuck about what people not pseudonym-ed, "Rob Singer," are doing with their Pee-Pees.

Anyway, that's all I have for you for at least a week. I've decided that talking to you is worth approximately thirty seconds of my time, at most, per week. You're lucky I'm a fast typist.

EDIT: 57 words. Damn, went over a bit. I'll just not respond to you again for two weeks to be safe.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

As we can all see, the extreme sissified atmosphere on the WoV forum of easily hurt feelings, snowflake stress, weirdo transgender and same sex marriage sensitivities, and the libtard mentality, equates to nothing more than being a home for a bunch of lonely pussies.

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It's a tightly moderated board, unlike this one.

Sure, there are some libtards and some who advocate being PC, but there are Trump supporters as well.

It's not a bad board.

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

As we can all see, the extreme sissified atmosphere on the WoV forum of easily hurt feelings, snowflake stress, weirdo transgender and same sex marriage sensitivities, and the libtard mentality, equates to nothing more than being a home for a bunch of lonely pussies.

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LMAO. "home for lonley pussies." O man. That's classic. I can use that one on my buddies.

Here is a good one. This guy is from Oklahoma. He is a character, looks a little weird, but funny as hell once you get to know him. His Dad was white and his mom was pure Cherokee. One day she says "my sons all stay in valley" then she points as if to far away place. "But you go over hill." He is definately high on something most the time. Don't think it's a hill.

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Originally Posted by Mission146

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Originally Posted by Rob.Singer

weirdo transgender and same sex marriage sensitivities.

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The only thing weird is you giving a fuck about what people not pseudonym-ed, "Rob Singer," are doing with their Pee-Pees.

Anyway, that's all I have for you for at least a week. I've decided that talking to you is worth approximately thirty seconds of my time, at most, per week. You're lucky I'm a fast typist.

EDIT: 57 words. Damn, went over a bit. I'll just not respond to you again for two weeks to be safe.

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And there you have it--the inimitable WoV mentality. S-e-n-s-I-t-I-v-I-t-y, T-o-l-e-r-a-n-c-e, & D-I-v-e-r-I-s-I-t-y all wrapped up into one whiny, snowflake-inspired post.

Exactly where has all this "inclusion" gotten you in your personal/social life....

Think about that.....as you struggle with whether it's better to work towards Making America Great Again--or let the weirdos continue to disrupt with their annoying/dividing agendas.

THAT is why WoV is such a pussified forum. It's basically a fringe group that's easily offended by normal men who have different beliefs than their majority. Believe as they do and you can toss around insults all you want.

Two guesses as to why so many come over here.

I suppose that "greatness" is in the eye of the beholder.

There have always been differences of opinion as to how government and society should be structured.

Until recently compromise was usually employed to keep things chugging along.

Not anymore.

We're not "pussified," we're "stratified," with neither side willing to compromise.

Would you please return to discussing the 18 yos and why I was lying.

It isn't terribly difficult deciphering the legitimacy of one side's arguments and common sense value vs. the other's. The whiny, safe-space-seeking left won't accept, admit, or listen to anybody who doesn't see things exactly as they see them. They also can't STAND that their crooked, corrupt, and totally incompetent Hillary lost an election to a far superior human being. Thus, the constant false cries of RACISM, HITLER, WHITE SUPREMACIST, etc.

Liberals are very weak people, and weak people disgust me. Tomi Lahren, even at her young age, is a stronger person that any of the weakass super duper hot shot administrators I've seen on WoV. Pervert Bill Clinton can drool over her and have sore balls all he wants.

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Would you please return to discussing the 18 yos and why I was lying.

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Your 18 yos are equivalent to Robs fifth card flip nonsense or a blackjack player complaining that they ALWAYS get a 10 when hitting a hard 12. Just a case of not remembering things correct.

However if you were to ask a blackjack player...."cut the shit and think about it......is there any reason to believe that what you said is accurate..or are you exaggerating"... most would admit the later.

Most would say that they are exaggerating .....they would know its sounds too crazy to be true.

That would be like singer saying...." everytime a fuck a prostitute I get VD".........I mean come on....there has to be a clean whore out there , out of the hundreds of personal experiences.

There are people who mis-remember on purpose(lie) in order to get a reaction they seek......sympathy, awe, jealousy etc

But rarely would a person go that extra mile like Allan does

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Originally Posted by Alan Mendelson

Would you please return to discussing the 18 yos and why I was lying.

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That's a question that only YOU can answer.

Since Alan wants us to stay on the topic, I will help. Normally, I stay away from unique VP claims and this dice discussion but I have ben following it for years I guess I can add some input.

I stand by my statement, "The event is possible but not probable.".

While I have followed this forum for three years, no one came forward with the "bleacher theory" that I had for a while. Monet nailed it yesterday. While I do not play craps (OK, twice) the atmosphere is electric, even if there is as few as four individuals at the table. If the guy is hot, the crowd screams. If he busts, individuals are upset. Even at 4 AM, the multitude of tables has to know that a rare occurrence is in front of them. If Yo's are multiplying, then the stickman would instantly turn into a carnival barker and claim that this table is the most productive in history.

Even if the stickman and handlers on that table are dead, the neighboring tables would have enjoyed the ride. Someone on the streets, knows that this occurred.

Also, for marketing, if I owned the casino, I would want a granite plaque stating that this table was the "Land of the 18 Yo's.". With all do respect, the Yo is a house advantage so why would the casino not try to advertise a great abnormal occurrence?

Final comment, I check the website; "Wizard of Deech". I asked about the issue of repeating elevens to an amazing number. The website stated that the only sequential rolls more illogical than 18 Yo's is eleven 18's.

18 consecutive yos is possible but not probable

150consecutive yos is possible but not probable

a billion consecutive yos is possible but not probable.,

that is how much the statement "x is possible but not probable" has real meaning


thats why mission is just mentally masturbating when he goes out on a limb to say that 18 consecutive yos is possible. Give that man a cupie doll.

but the reaction of the casino you give is right on target. What better way to advertise and prod people tomake bad bets on the horn than to make the event well known.

the inexplicable silence of the casino, coupled with the inaction of people involved in not placing a bet even once during this "event makes it even more certain that this is a total fabrication.

Human nature....if free money is available.....then people are going to try to get it. And if a casino can make money off of a real life even that occurred on their property....then...they will do so without hesitation.

that was a good observation on your part

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Originally Posted by LarryS

18 consecutive yos is possible but not probable

150consecutive yos is possible but not probable

a billion consecutive yos is possible but not probable

that is how much the statement "x is possible but not probable" has real meaning

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Nothing is, "PROBABLE," in eighteen rolls, you fucking idiot. That's been the mathematical point this entire time.

Would you believe eighteen sevens in a row? If not, why not? That's the most, "Probable," result.

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thats why mission is just mentally masturbating when he goes out on a limb to say that 18 consecutive yos is possible. Give that man a cupie doll.

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There are far less likely combinations of eighteen rolls that I have personally witnessed, and that's why you're a fucking idiot.

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but the reaction of the casino you give is right on target. What better way to advertise and prod people tomake bad bets on the horn than to make the event well known.

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I do agree and have agreed with that. Like I said, it would require the four most disciplined gamblers in the known Universe to be at the table that day not betting the Yo. Shit, if I were the stickman, I would announce that I quit my job, take off my nametag, and start betting the Yo.

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the inexplicable silence of the casino, coupled with the inaction of people involved in not placing a bet even once during this "event makes it even more certain that this is a total fabrication.

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Yes. That and the math are two different arguments. However, you're not willing to accept the opinion of someone who doesn't agree with you in every possible respect. A common trait of fucking idiots.

I MAY BE A FUCKING IDIOT....................but I know enough to keep my mouth shit about a certain poster....ir else I will be making out with mickey for a long long session. Its something he would want, and I am really determined to not let it happen. It takes alot of discipline . So This "fucking idiot" is doing just fine.

I may be a "fucking idiot", but at least i dont air out my penis in public....and then write about it and post the prose on the internet...nope not me


I may be an idiot.....but i never hung out with a con man.

I ma be a fucking idiot but I have respect for blonde women.....and i never mocked them with a posted blonde joke.

I may be a fucking idiot.....but I never fucked my mother ......well not more than once......or twice

I maybe a fucking idiot, but its not me who stops in the street to listen to rap music which i am not a fan of.

I may be a fucking idiot....but I never posed injury to my body in order to win an insignificant amount of money...nor have i in pursuing that goal vomited as a public spectacle

I may be a fucking idiot.....but i never worked for free while someone else accumulated equity in a business from my sweat.....and then watch that person run from supporting me in a time of need.

and I am the "fucking idiot"................maybe you are right

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Originally Posted by LarryS

1.) I MAY BE A FUCKING IDIOT....................but I know enough to keep my mouth shit about a certain poster....ir else I will be making out with mickey for a long long session. Its something he would want, and I am really determined to not let it happen. It takes alot of discipline . So This "fucking idiot" is doing just fine.

2.) I may be a "fucking idiot", but at least i dont air out my penis in public....and then write about it and post the prose on the internet...nope not me

3.) I may be an idiot.....but i never hung out with a con man.

4.) I ma be a fucking idiot but I have respect for blonde women.....and i never mocked them with a posted blonde joke.

5.) I may be a fucking idiot.....but I never fucked my mother ......well not more than once......or twice

6.) I maybe a fucking idiot, but its not me who stops in the street to listen to rap music which i am not a fan of.

7.) I may be a fucking idiot....but I never posed injury to my body in order to win an insignificant amount of money...nor have i in pursuing that goal vomited as a public spectacle

8.) I may be a fucking idiot.....but i never worked for free while someone else accumulated equity in a business from my sweat.....and then watch that person run from supporting me in a time of need.

and I am the "fucking idiot"................maybe you are right

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1.) If you say so. I thought I was supposed to be the Liberal. I don't remember ever putting the possibility of my making out with another man as some sort of price to pay if I do something wrong. Looks like you're more sexually open than I am.

2.) Based on Item #1, it sounds like you wish you'd been in the car with me. I'm not making out with you, though. Not only are you a dude, you're almost twice my age. The cool thing about being Liberal on social issues is a person can be whatever he wants. He can be gay. He can be straight. I happen to be quite straight, but you do your thing, man.

I don't think Mickey's having it, though. You're seriously going to get the shit beat out of you by him with a baseball bat if you keep it up. I'd bark up some other tree if I were you. It seems you tried your luck with KewlJ, too, bringing it up all the time like you do...but I don't think he's interested.

3.) I did small jobs and I made money. He never shafted me. I never vouched for him. His dealings with other people are his dealings with other people and are not my problem.

4.) Yeah, I've got enough posts there that prove otherwise.

---Side Note: Every potentially inappropriate thing I've said about any given subject, you've managed to one up at some point.

5.) Huh? Listen, you just keep that kind of talk to you and the boyfriend I hope you find per #1 and #2.

6.) LOL See, the difference between you and me is you can't handle the idea of a person finding joy in anything, especially human interaction. I think that will change when you finally get that dick in your mouth. I hope you find Mr. Right. Is that why you're hassling me all the time? Not interested. Sorry.

7.) I didn't vomit and there was no risk of serious injury. Besides, I found the whole thing amusing. Again, I like things that bring me joy and things that I find humorous bring me more joy than anything else.

8.) Say what? He was fully well prepared to defend me unequivocally and I directly told him not to. I believe I might have said that I'd never speak to him again if he did...but I'm not 100%.

FINALLY: To the point, if you don't understand the simplest of mathematical concepts, you're a fucking idiot. I'm almost shocked that you could count thirty pills to put into a bottle without finding a way to fuck that up, but you have shown some signs of competence in the other thread.

I can respond to Deech. Since none of the four players at the table was betting on the 11, or the field, or the horn, there was no cheering. I don't recall a nearby table being open. There were no railbirds. No one was walking up to the table to look.

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